Je suis nouveau sur ce forum, je me suis inscrit car j'ai un projet ambitieux rejoindre la bretagne la ville de vitré dans le 35 en vélo en partant de chambéry. Je pense mettre une semaine pour rejoindre cette région, j'ai déjà commencé à regarder sur le net ainsi que sur le forum. Y a t il quelqu'un sur ce forum qui a déja fait ce périple qui m'est important pour moi car je souhaite venir voir une personne de ma famille que je n'ai pas vu depuis longtemps . Si vous avez des informations que vous jugez utile n'hésitez pas, je pense faire environ 150 km par jour environ et si quelqu'un connait bien l'ardéche pour me dire ou je peu éviter les nationales, les pentes trop importantes. Je vous remercie. Si vous avez des questions pour savoir plus de choses n'hésitez pas je vous répondrais.
De Chambéry à Vitré à vélo en passant par le centre de la France
by Lesavoyard73
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Je suis nouveau sur ce forum, je me suis inscrit car j'ai un projet ambitieux rejoindre la bretagne la ville de vitré dans le 35 en vélo en partant de chambéry. Je pense mettre une semaine pour rejoindre cette région, j'ai déjà commencé à regarder sur le net ainsi que sur le forum. Y a t il quelqu'un sur ce forum qui a déja fait ce périple qui m'est important pour moi car je souhaite venir voir une personne de ma famille que je n'ai pas vu depuis longtemps . Si vous avez des informations que vous jugez utile n'hésitez pas, je pense faire environ 150 km par jour environ et si quelqu'un connait bien l'ardéche pour me dire ou je peu éviter les nationales, les pentes trop importantes. Je vous remercie. Si vous avez des questions pour savoir plus de choses n'hésitez pas je vous répondrais.
Je suis nouveau sur ce forum, je me suis inscrit car j'ai un projet ambitieux rejoindre la bretagne la ville de vitré dans le 35 en vélo en partant de chambéry. Je pense mettre une semaine pour rejoindre cette région, j'ai déjà commencé à regarder sur le net ainsi que sur le forum. Y a t il quelqu'un sur ce forum qui a déja fait ce périple qui m'est important pour moi car je souhaite venir voir une personne de ma famille que je n'ai pas vu depuis longtemps . Si vous avez des informations que vous jugez utile n'hésitez pas, je pense faire environ 150 km par jour environ et si quelqu'un connait bien l'ardéche pour me dire ou je peu éviter les nationales, les pentes trop importantes. Je vous remercie. Si vous avez des questions pour savoir plus de choses n'hésitez pas je vous répondrais.
Salut Le savoyard
moi j'ai fait
Grenoble Combourg (35) en passant par Vitré en Juin 2007
et Grenoble Nantes en Juin 2011
voir sur mon blog a ces dates
http://bent38.blogspot.fr/2011_06_01_archive.html
mes ballades les pieds devant
http://maflaux.wix.com/marcel-velo-couche
http://bent38.blogspot.com/
bravo
alors voyons vitré ou est ce ?
http://www.viamichelin.fr/...le_et_Vilaine-France
en effet ca fait bien 800 bornes
donc faisable en 7 jours sans soucis
deux options
option 1 cyclo aguerri par de petites rtes
option 2 plus touriste par voies vertes
1 - Chambéry aix culoz plaine de l ain villefranche moulins Châteauroux
ou
2 vv > aix via rhona > lagnieu plaine de l ain mâcon vv
euro vélo 6 > Angers
i do that http://cbandiera.free.fr/...verges-fouesnant.php mais javais 10 ans et 10 kg de moins et 50 ans depuis tours i do http://cbandiera.free.fr/...010//index.php?N1=12 tres zouli
bonne rte
ah je viens de voir que tu veux passer par le zentrum ah la c est plus la même histoire c est bcq plus dur en effet
claude
i do that http://cbandiera.free.fr/...verges-fouesnant.php mais javais 10 ans et 10 kg de moins et 50 ans depuis tours i do http://cbandiera.free.fr/...010//index.php?N1=12 tres zouli
bonne rte
ah je viens de voir que tu veux passer par le zentrum ah la c est plus la même histoire c est bcq plus dur en effet
claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
merci Cbandiera pour la carte michelin on voit bien les petites routes.
Je pensais passer macon pour eviter Lyon mais je pense que je mettrais moins qu'une semaine maximum 5 jours .
Dis moi ce que tu pense de ma route.
1 étape : Partir de Chambéry et allez jusqu'à Macon en passant par Belley, Ambérieu, Bourg en Bresse et Macon la fin de la première journée.
2 étape :Macon jusqu'à Moulins en passant par la N79
3 étape : Moulins jusqu'à chateauroux en passant par saint amand montroux
4 étape: Chateauroux jusqu'à tours par la d943
5 étape : Tours jusqu à Laval par la d959 et la d306 et la d21
6 étape : Laval jusqu'à vitré mon terminus.
Dites moi ce que vous pensez de mon itinéraire
chambery aix chaudieu culoz ameberieuc est de la grd rte mais ca va, ya pas trop de camions
c est pas band.. mais ca roule tres bien, chalamont villards les dombes pont de veyles macon se contourne bien par le sud, bandes cyclables sur la grd rte
non pas la N 79 non par pitié eviter le plus possible des Rn et en rouge !!
belleville beaujeu (ca grimpe pas mal) puis belle descente sur chauffailles marcigny ...donjon macon chateaureoux .. ensuite ca va ce ne st pas des paysage qui vont te faire B.., mais bon
en effet si jeune costo et pas trop chargé 5 jours ca joue a condition de bien preparer sans trop hesiter et avoir ses adresses d'hotels
ce fut ma rte bien plus tranquille claude
non pas la N 79 non par pitié eviter le plus possible des Rn et en rouge !!
belleville beaujeu (ca grimpe pas mal) puis belle descente sur chauffailles marcigny ...donjon macon chateaureoux .. ensuite ca va ce ne st pas des paysage qui vont te faire B.., mais bon
en effet si jeune costo et pas trop chargé 5 jours ca joue a condition de bien preparer sans trop hesiter et avoir ses adresses d'hotels
ce fut ma rte bien plus tranquille claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Pour la premiere partie du message je pense passer par la mais par contre " belleville beaujeu (ca grimpe pas mal) puis belle descente sur chauffailles marcigny ...donjon macon
chateaureoux .."
y a t il pas une autre route qui n'est pas vallonné mais la route N79 est trés fréquenté ou moyennement car moins ca monte mieux ca sera car j ai quand meme + de 800 km.
Jean benoit
Jean benoit
belleville beaujour chuaffailels ca monte mais ca va c est pas l alpe dhuez c est du 5-6 % ca se passe bien
ensuite la descnte est belle et roulante
cb
jean avait chié car chargé et 270 bornes ds la jourbnee + fringale
http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/bretagne-faverges-fouesnant.php
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Sur la route toute la sainte journée … Après un lever à 4 heures du mat, et la fin des préparatifs, Fanny et moi sommes prêts au départ à 9 h 48 très exactement . Motivé par l’appel du grand large . et une belle sirène brune. Dernière pesée, poids de la bête déguisée en coureur 83.5 kg, poids du cheval 23.5 kg , pas vraiment des mensurations pour battre des records. C’est sous un grand soleil et le vent favorable que je prend la direction de la piste cyclable par la route nationale, ou mon ami polo, doit se demander quelle guêpe Bretonne m’a piquée . Sur la piste cyclable il faut déjà slalomer entre les rolleuses, ce n’est pas facile avec mon semi remorque , bien que pas toujours désagréable. j’aborde d’un pas très lent et mesuré le col de Leschaux C’est dur, très dur, mais je sais qu’après le sommet ce sera plus facile . Un dernier regard sur la gouille et c’est enfin le sommet après 1 h 22 minutes : juste dans les temps , histoire de se rassurer , la suite prouvera que ce n’est pas si facile que ça. Aix les bains, par les Bauges, toujours aussi belles, vent de dos et en descente c’est toujours ça de gagné Je quitte la Savoie à Culoz, par les bords du lac d’aix les bains, cher à une certaine Martine je crois, mais sans être chauvin le lac d’Annecy est plus mignon, bien que peut être moins romantique. Artemare : début de la vallée de l’albarine , qui n’est qu’un lieu de passage inhospitalier, entre les monts du Bugey, mais le beau bitume, le vent dans le dos, et l’absence de monde, rendent la progression facile, et me laisse le loisir d’admirer les magnifiques falaises . Quittant sans regrets, cette vallée à Amberieu , débute alors la traversée de la Dombes, pays d’étangs, de pâturages. Mais je ne puis honorer aujourd’hui les bons petits restos, un autre jour peut être, en d’autres temps, avec une randonneuse plus causante. ST Maurice de Remens : village de Antoine de St exupery, « dessine moi un vélo » , j’ai envie de lui dire. Fini de rigoler, vent de face, faux plat montant , route à mauvais rendu, envol vers les Monts du Beaujolais, plus facile à descendre qu’à escalader . Belleville ou Nashville : Anne de beaujeu se pâme de me voir escalader en souplesse, le beaujolais. Coup de fringale monumental, je tente un arrêt dans un bistrot pour manger quelque chose, mais malheureusement la brave cafetière ne fait pas de sandwich. Je me contente donc d’une bière avec quelques sucres. (un vieux truc de cyclo routard) Dans mon état , la brave dame me conseille du repos et m’indique une adresse de gîte, je fais mine d’être intéressé, et la remercie , car elle ne se doute pas qu’elle vient de rencontrer un hybride entre Anne de Beaujeu et la bête du gevaudan, Anne m’ayant laissé ce visage d’ange, et le Gévaudan, cet esprit routard. La fin du col est très pénible, à cause du vent de face, de la fringale, et d’une pente assez rude. Ouf ! Les Echarmeaux fin du col enfin, je change de bassin hydrologique et de région. C’est la plongée dans la forêt des monts du beaujolais , je dégotte en catimini, une petite clairière sympa, et essaye de monter dans la pénombre, cette putain de tente. Mais devant mes dons pour le bricolage, et sans lentilles, impossible de l installer. Mais après 15 minutes, et l’instinct de survie aidant, je réussis enfin à monter tant bien que mal la cabane. Sans sac de couchage, autant dire que la nuit a été froide et agitée, et ce n’est pas avec ma randonneuse, qui elle , couche dehors.
Sur la route toute la sainte journée … Après un lever à 4 heures du mat, et la fin des préparatifs, Fanny et moi sommes prêts au départ à 9 h 48 très exactement . Motivé par l’appel du grand large . et une belle sirène brune. Dernière pesée, poids de la bête déguisée en coureur 83.5 kg, poids du cheval 23.5 kg , pas vraiment des mensurations pour battre des records. C’est sous un grand soleil et le vent favorable que je prend la direction de la piste cyclable par la route nationale, ou mon ami polo, doit se demander quelle guêpe Bretonne m’a piquée . Sur la piste cyclable il faut déjà slalomer entre les rolleuses, ce n’est pas facile avec mon semi remorque , bien que pas toujours désagréable. j’aborde d’un pas très lent et mesuré le col de Leschaux C’est dur, très dur, mais je sais qu’après le sommet ce sera plus facile . Un dernier regard sur la gouille et c’est enfin le sommet après 1 h 22 minutes : juste dans les temps , histoire de se rassurer , la suite prouvera que ce n’est pas si facile que ça. Aix les bains, par les Bauges, toujours aussi belles, vent de dos et en descente c’est toujours ça de gagné Je quitte la Savoie à Culoz, par les bords du lac d’aix les bains, cher à une certaine Martine je crois, mais sans être chauvin le lac d’Annecy est plus mignon, bien que peut être moins romantique. Artemare : début de la vallée de l’albarine , qui n’est qu’un lieu de passage inhospitalier, entre les monts du Bugey, mais le beau bitume, le vent dans le dos, et l’absence de monde, rendent la progression facile, et me laisse le loisir d’admirer les magnifiques falaises . Quittant sans regrets, cette vallée à Amberieu , débute alors la traversée de la Dombes, pays d’étangs, de pâturages. Mais je ne puis honorer aujourd’hui les bons petits restos, un autre jour peut être, en d’autres temps, avec une randonneuse plus causante. ST Maurice de Remens : village de Antoine de St exupery, « dessine moi un vélo » , j’ai envie de lui dire. Fini de rigoler, vent de face, faux plat montant , route à mauvais rendu, envol vers les Monts du Beaujolais, plus facile à descendre qu’à escalader . Belleville ou Nashville : Anne de beaujeu se pâme de me voir escalader en souplesse, le beaujolais. Coup de fringale monumental, je tente un arrêt dans un bistrot pour manger quelque chose, mais malheureusement la brave cafetière ne fait pas de sandwich. Je me contente donc d’une bière avec quelques sucres. (un vieux truc de cyclo routard) Dans mon état , la brave dame me conseille du repos et m’indique une adresse de gîte, je fais mine d’être intéressé, et la remercie , car elle ne se doute pas qu’elle vient de rencontrer un hybride entre Anne de Beaujeu et la bête du gevaudan, Anne m’ayant laissé ce visage d’ange, et le Gévaudan, cet esprit routard. La fin du col est très pénible, à cause du vent de face, de la fringale, et d’une pente assez rude. Ouf ! Les Echarmeaux fin du col enfin, je change de bassin hydrologique et de région. C’est la plongée dans la forêt des monts du beaujolais , je dégotte en catimini, une petite clairière sympa, et essaye de monter dans la pénombre, cette putain de tente. Mais devant mes dons pour le bricolage, et sans lentilles, impossible de l installer. Mais après 15 minutes, et l’instinct de survie aidant, je réussis enfin à monter tant bien que mal la cabane. Sans sac de couchage, autant dire que la nuit a été froide et agitée, et ce n’est pas avec ma randonneuse, qui elle , couche dehors.
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
🙂
Un petit commentaire sur le blog du tour de france que je suis en train de lire vraiment génial cela doit etre une grande ecpérience de pouvoir faire le tour mais est ce que l'étape grenoble combourg en passant par vitré était difficile y avait il beaucoup de dénivelé, y a t il des routes agréables à prendre pour voir du paysage
Un petit commentaire sur le blog du tour de france que je suis en train de lire vraiment génial cela doit etre une grande ecpérience de pouvoir faire le tour mais est ce que l'étape grenoble combourg en passant par vitré était difficile y avait il beaucoup de dénivelé, y a t il des routes agréables à prendre pour voir du paysage
Pour le denivele cela fait 3800 m au depart de Lyon donc pas si énorme que cela vu la longueur
le plus dur sont les 100 premier KM en sortie de Lyon
pour les routes il y avait des portions sympa d'autres ou il faudrait prendre d'autres routes mais je ne m'en souvient plus vraiment
mes ballades les pieds devant
http://maflaux.wix.com/marcel-velo-couche
http://bent38.blogspot.com/
bravo
trouvant le récit intéressant
j'ai consigné sur
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/tdfusmetro/liens.php
claude
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/tdfusmetro/liens.php
claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
en effet
usqu'à Martigues route agréable , mais à partir de "Port de Bouc " jusqu'à Fos sur Mer route complètement défoncée .ce qui vaudra une crevaison pour Jean-Claude . pour sortir de Fos impossible de suivre la trace et nous nous retrouvons sur une voie express quelques kms ....nous sommes même contraints d'enjamber la ballustrade et de passer au travers des herbes pour rejoindre notre route en contre-bas qui s'avère être défoncée également sur un ou deux kms .
ca rappele qlq chose a claudio !!! une honte , faut ecrir au cg 13 et a la ffct javais fait mais bon cb
usqu'à Martigues route agréable , mais à partir de "Port de Bouc " jusqu'à Fos sur Mer route complètement défoncée .ce qui vaudra une crevaison pour Jean-Claude . pour sortir de Fos impossible de suivre la trace et nous nous retrouvons sur une voie express quelques kms ....nous sommes même contraints d'enjamber la ballustrade et de passer au travers des herbes pour rejoindre notre route en contre-bas qui s'avère être défoncée également sur un ou deux kms .
ca rappele qlq chose a claudio !!! une honte , faut ecrir au cg 13 et a la ffct javais fait mais bon cb
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Merci Claude
mes ballades les pieds devant
http://maflaux.wix.com/marcel-velo-couche
http://bent38.blogspot.com/
Salut Le Savoyard
Quand penses tu faire ton périple?
Pour ma part, je te ferais une petite suggestion...
L'année passé j'ai rejoins Chambéry à Nantes en 5 jours et demi 1100 km en longeant la Loire et en faisant de nombreux détours pour passer par les châteaux les plus importants.
Pourquoi ne pas faire la route de la Loire, classique mais néanmoins superbe (éviter biensur juillet et aout)?
Première étape pour ma part Chambéry-Paray le Monial en passant par les berges du lac du Bourget. Montée depuis Artemarre direction Hauteville-lompnes pour rejoindre Pont d'Ain par le col de la Lèbe. (coin superbe et sauvage). Ensuite on emprunte un parcours au milieu des étangs pour rejoindre une superbe piste cyclable qui traverse la Bourgogne et emprunte notamment le plus long tunnel cyclable d'Europe...
Depuis Paray le Monial tu peux longer toute la Loire à Vélo jusqu'à Angers, puis remonter en direction de Rennes et le Vitré.
Je faisais environ 200 km jours en voyageant léger (7 kilos de bagages) et dodo à l’hôtel.
Suis de Chambéry, tu peux facilement me demander quelques tuyaux et photos.
Je recherche d'ailleurs un ou des partenaires pour longer toute la côte Bretonne la seconde et troisième semaine de juin, si t'es partant ou si tu connais du monde, te gênes pas!
Amicalement
Patrick
Quand penses tu faire ton périple?
Pour ma part, je te ferais une petite suggestion...
L'année passé j'ai rejoins Chambéry à Nantes en 5 jours et demi 1100 km en longeant la Loire et en faisant de nombreux détours pour passer par les châteaux les plus importants.
Pourquoi ne pas faire la route de la Loire, classique mais néanmoins superbe (éviter biensur juillet et aout)?
Première étape pour ma part Chambéry-Paray le Monial en passant par les berges du lac du Bourget. Montée depuis Artemarre direction Hauteville-lompnes pour rejoindre Pont d'Ain par le col de la Lèbe. (coin superbe et sauvage). Ensuite on emprunte un parcours au milieu des étangs pour rejoindre une superbe piste cyclable qui traverse la Bourgogne et emprunte notamment le plus long tunnel cyclable d'Europe...
Depuis Paray le Monial tu peux longer toute la Loire à Vélo jusqu'à Angers, puis remonter en direction de Rennes et le Vitré.
Je faisais environ 200 km jours en voyageant léger (7 kilos de bagages) et dodo à l’hôtel.
Suis de Chambéry, tu peux facilement me demander quelques tuyaux et photos.
Je recherche d'ailleurs un ou des partenaires pour longer toute la côte Bretonne la seconde et troisième semaine de juin, si t'es partant ou si tu connais du monde, te gênes pas!
Amicalement
Patrick
salut cbandiera
merci pour ton message je viens de le lire excuse moi du gros retard une petite question que je me pose au niveau de l'hébergement plutôt en hotel ( pour les vélos je sais pas si il accepte ) ou sinon en gite . Comment a tu fais
merci pour ton message je viens de le lire excuse moi du gros retard une petite question que je me pose au niveau de l'hébergement plutôt en hotel ( pour les vélos je sais pas si il accepte ) ou sinon en gite . Comment a tu fais
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I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
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- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.


Can you take an electric bike on trains in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland?
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉