Pekin-Datong-Pingyao-Xian en train en février 2011
by Philetnat
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'organise actuellement notre circuit de 3 semaines en Chine entre le 15 février et le 4 mars 2011.
Il y a une question que je me pose, elle peut paraitre ridicule mais ......nous comptons prendre le train de nuit à Pékin pour Datong, visiter Datong via le CITS, reprendre le train de nuit pour Pingyao, y rester une nuit et au bout du 2eme jour, reprendre le train pour Xian.
N'est ce pas trop de train? et surtout que fait on de nos bagages à Datong ????Nous partons à 7 avec enfants parents et grand-parents.On ne peut donc pas voyager léger, surtout à cette saison.
Les trains sont ils chauffés? Cette partie de notre séjour m'inquiète!!
Si quelqu'un a des réponses, merci d'avance
la question n'est pas le train mais cé le tempo de votre voyage surtout si tu as des enfants et des personnes agées.
pour les valises, tu les laisses a la consigne a datong
pour les valises, tu les laisses a la consigne a datong
La plus grosse épine que j'avais dans le pied, tu viens de me l'enlever.Merci infiniment, cette consigne à Datong est une bénédiction!!pour le tempo, il n'y a que cette partie la qui est serrée, pour le reste du voyage, nous prenons notre temps....nous reviendrons en Chine s'il le faut mais nous ne voulons pas courir, c'est dailleurs pour cela que nous n'avons pas pris de voyage organisé.
pour ne pas courir il vaut mieux rester la nuit a datong surtout en hiver
froid en general, mais si il y a du soleil en journée c'est frais ou meme un bon temps
J'ai fait en septembre 2009 le trajet que vous mentionnez (avec mon mari, tous 2 âgés de 60 ans) , sauf que nous arrivions de Mongolie.
Datong était notre première étape chinoise : aucun problème en passant par le CITS situé dans la gare même et qui est organisé pour garder nos bagages, nous vendre un circuit très très bien (grottes de Yungang et Monastère suspendu, transport en minibus et repas compris) et nous a réservé notre train de nuit pour Pingyao...
A Pingyao, splendide destination, nous sommes restés 2 jours, donc une nuit à l'hôtel qui nous a réservé notre train de nuit pour le lendemain soir à destination de Xi'An où nous sommes arrivés au petit matin.
De Xi'An (toujours grâce à notre hôtel de Pingyao) nous avions un train de nuit de réservé le soir même pour Pékin (nous ne pouvions prolonger notre séjour à Xi'an en raison des vacances en Chine ; de ce fait les trains à dates ultérieures étaient complets).
Voilà, côté climat ce n'était pas les mêmes dates, mais côté logistique c'est parfaitement faisable.
Margot
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bonsoir,
je sais qu'on peut prendre le train du soir a datong mais le probleme c'est qu'ils sont nombreux et de plus cé en hiver (froid et journée courte)
je sais qu'on peut prendre le train du soir a datong mais le probleme c'est qu'ils sont nombreux et de plus cé en hiver (froid et journée courte)
Toutes ces réponses me rassurent énormément.Quant au climat, je sais bien que malheureusement nous allons avoir froid, mais nous allons dévaliser le stock chez "damart" avant de partir!!! Faut le prendre comme ça, nous n'avons pas eu le choix des dates, mais il parait que la Chine en hiver, c'est très beau!Peut être verrons nous quelques paysages sous la neige ?? nous qui la voyons jamais!😉
Peut être verrons nous quelques paysages sous la neige ?? nous qui la voyons jamais!😉
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N'espérez pas voir de la neige : dans la plus grande partie de la Chine, le climat est très sec en hiver. Il peut neiger, certes, mais alors les transports , notamment routiers et aériens, sont complètement désorganisés, faute de matériel de déneigement suffisant et d'organisation à la hauteur. Et puis une ville sous la neige, c'est très joli le premier jour, mais la neige devient très vite sale, salissante et glissante.
Bonjour,
N'espérez pas voir de la neige : dans la plus grande partie de la Chine, le climat est très sec en hiver. Il peut neiger, certes, mais alors les transports , notamment routiers et aériens, sont complètement désorganisés, faute de matériel de déneigement suffisant et d'organisation à la hauteur. Et puis une ville sous la neige, c'est très joli le premier jour, mais la neige devient très vite sale, salissante et glissante.
donc c'est froid et sec ? avec un peu de chance .... du soleil?
On a souvent du ciel bleu en hiver... surtout si on s'éloigne de la pollution urbaine !
On a souvent du ciel bleu en hiver... surtout si on s'éloigne de la pollution urbaine !
si vous savez patiner allez faire un tour sur le lac gelé du palais d'été à pekin
😉
Ou bien sur le lac Houhai, au nord-ouest de la Cité Interdite. A ne pas rater pour l'ambiance.
voila qui risque de ravir les enfants.J'ose supposer qu'ils louent des patins aux abords des lacs.
Avec des enfants, il "faut" aller à Houhai. Il y a tous les âges sur la glace. Cela me faisait penser irrésistiblement aux tableaux de Brughel; j'y suis allé plusieurs week-ends d'affilée. Bien sûr, on peut louer des patins, 20Y si ma mémoire est bonne, et ils sont tout à fait corrects. L'entrée aux "patinoires" délimitées sur le lac est de l'ordre de 10Y.
Avec des enfants, il "faut" aller à Houhai. Il y a tous les âges sur la glace. Cela me faisait penser irrésistiblement aux tableaux de Brughel; j'y suis allé plusieurs week-ends d'affilée. Bien sûr, on peut louer des patins, 20Y si ma mémoire est bonne, et ils sont tout à fait corrects. L'entrée aux "patinoires" délimitées sur le lac est de l'ordre de 10Y.
oh que oui, fevrier est encore loin mais j'ai vraiment hate d'y être, et préparer le voyage nous met déjà un pied là bas.Nous avons prévu 5 jours à Pékin, j'ai peur que ce soit juste mais je voulais absolument voir les temples suspendus de Datong donc 1 jour de moins à Pékin, mais on ne peut pas tout avoir n'est-ce pas !! et puis 3 semaines dans ce beau pays c'est court mais c'est déja pas mal.
Attention :
cet hiver, j'y suis allé jusqu'au WE du 6-7 février, et quand je suis revenu de vacances de Nouvel An chinois deux semaines plus tard, c'était fini : les températures étaient remontées. Le réchauffement climatique... mes collègues chinois me confirment qu'on patinait bien plus tard en hiver dans leur enfance. Et dites vous bien que le basculement de saison hiver/été (et été/hiver) est toujours très brutal à Beijing.
Donc allez-y dès votre arrivée à Beijing, même si le temps est gris. Evidemment, par grand soleil, c'est beaucoup mieux, mais vous n'aurez peut-être pas le choix. J'y suis allé aussi par temps très maussade et cela vaut le coup quand même.
cet hiver, j'y suis allé jusqu'au WE du 6-7 février, et quand je suis revenu de vacances de Nouvel An chinois deux semaines plus tard, c'était fini : les températures étaient remontées. Le réchauffement climatique... mes collègues chinois me confirment qu'on patinait bien plus tard en hiver dans leur enfance. Et dites vous bien que le basculement de saison hiver/été (et été/hiver) est toujours très brutal à Beijing.
Donc allez-y dès votre arrivée à Beijing, même si le temps est gris. Evidemment, par grand soleil, c'est beaucoup mieux, mais vous n'aurez peut-être pas le choix. J'y suis allé aussi par temps très maussade et cela vaut le coup quand même.
bonjour,
j'aimerai pouvoir me faire une idée des tarifs sur le trajet en train que vous mentionnez... MErci d'avance
j'aimerai pouvoir me faire une idée des tarifs sur le trajet en train que vous mentionnez... MErci d'avance
Tina
243 yuans pour celui de 21h49
A Pingyao, splendide destination, nous sommes restés 2 jours, donc une nuit à l'hôtel qui nous a réservé notre train de nuit pour le lendemain soir à destination de Xi'An où nous sommes arrivés au petit matin.
bonjour,
combien vous a coûté votre billet pour le train de nuit pour Xi'an? combien de temps à duré le voyage? et enfin, la gare de pingyao est-elle la même qu'à l'aller?
merci d'avance pour vos réponses à toutes ces questions ! 🙂
bonjour,
combien vous a coûté votre billet pour le train de nuit pour Xi'an? combien de temps à duré le voyage? et enfin, la gare de pingyao est-elle la même qu'à l'aller?
merci d'avance pour vos réponses à toutes ces questions ! 🙂
A Pingyao, splendide destination, nous sommes restés 2 jours, donc une nuit à l'hôtel qui nous a réservé notre train de nuit pour le lendemain soir à destination de Xi'An où nous sommes arrivés au petit matin.
bonjour,
combien vous a coûté votre billet pour le train de nuit pour Xi'an? combien de temps à duré le voyage? et enfin, la gare de pingyao est-elle la même qu'à l'aller?
merci d'avance pour vos réponses à toutes ces questions ! 🙂
Bonjour,
Pingyao - Xi'an : trois trains de nuit 20:47 07:22 21:38 06:55 00:34 08:43 tarif couchette dure : 83 RMB / mollle 135 RMB (quelques RMB de différence selon les trains) source www.tielu.org
bonjour,
combien vous a coûté votre billet pour le train de nuit pour Xi'an? combien de temps à duré le voyage? et enfin, la gare de pingyao est-elle la même qu'à l'aller?
merci d'avance pour vos réponses à toutes ces questions ! 🙂
Bonjour,
Pingyao - Xi'an : trois trains de nuit 20:47 07:22 21:38 06:55 00:34 08:43 tarif couchette dure : 83 RMB / mollle 135 RMB (quelques RMB de différence selon les trains) source www.tielu.org
Amis voyageurs, bonsoir.
Avec mon épouse nous serons en Chine du 06.09.11 au 06.10.2011 et nous avons en projet le même trajet par le train que vous avez semble t-il réalisé en 2010, auriez vous quelques informations à nous communiquer sur votre expérience ?
D'avance merci.
Toutes nos amitiés, Maryvonne & Bernard
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I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)