En préparation pour un voyage à vélo en Asie, j'aimerai avoir des avis sur les différentes possibilités pour relier Kashgar en Chine à Kunming, en Chine aussi ...
On a déjà pas regardé pas mal de blogs mais je sonde aussi parmi vous ...
Les options ne sont pas très nombreuses visiblement :
- Route par le nord passant par Xi'an pour éviter le Tibet
- Route par le Tibet, longeant la chaine de l'Himalaya et passant par Lhassa
- Par la KKH, mais bon, le Pakistan c'est pas vraiment le pied et une fois en Inde, pas facile (voire impossible si mes infos sont bonnes) de continuer à l'Est, ni par le Nepal (frontiere Chine) ni par la chine directement, ni par la Birmanie ...
Est ce que vous auriez des remarques éclairées à ce sujet ?
Je crois qu'il faut que tu saches combien de temps tu te donnes pour faire ce trajet.
En fonction de cela les options seront beaucoup plus nombreuses que tu l'imagines . Surtout sur le territoire Chinois.
Quant à la route du Tibet, il faut penser à la saison, d'octobre à mars et même après il y fait très froid.
Kashgar - Lhassa - Kunming prévoir 4 mois et un bon paquets de cols à + de 4000 m et 5000 m.
Une fois en Inde il est effectivement impossible de rejoindre la Chine par voie terrestre, sauf à raquer par le Népal, ou passer les frontières clandestinement.
Alors pour ce qui est du temps disponible ... c'est moins dépendant de nous que des autorités chinoises ... sauf erreur, on ne peut guère espérer mieux qu'un visa de 3 mois ...
Quelles seraient les autres options que tu vois, dans les grandes lignes ?
Est ce que quelqu'un a aussi des expériences avec les trains chinois ? Parce que j'imagine que ce sera une option si jamais nos visas nous impose d'abréger un peu ...
En gros, tu peux faire Kashgar/Aksu/Korla/hami/Yumen/Lanzhou/Zoigé/Chengdu/Kunming, avec des variantes.
Tu peux visiter Xiahé et Langmussi. Il est possible d'obtenir assez facilement des prolongations de visa.
j'avais mis un peu plus de 2 mois de Kashgar à Kunming.
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
Oui, j'étais passé par là et j'ai aimé; Je peux comprendre qu'on puisse trouver monotone une partie du Xinjiang, qui longe le Taklamakan, moi j'aime les zones désertiques.Après plus tu vas vers le sud, moins c'est désertique.De Leisham à Kunming, j'étais passé par Zaothong. Entre Leisham et Zaothong, c'était une incroyable piste de montagne avec des gués à traverser, pratiquement aucun véhicule.Tout change vite en Chine et c'est peut-être différent maintenant( moi en 1999).
Il y a d'autres itinéraires possibles.
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
En gros, tu peux faire Kashgar/Aksu/Korla/hami/Yumen/Lanzhou/Zoigé/Chengdu/Kunming, avec des variantes.
Tu peux visiter Xiahé et Langmussi. Il est possible d'obtenir assez facilement des prolongations de visa.
BigCoyotte dit :
Humm ...
Ce trajet me paraissait assez monotone de ce que j'ai pu lire ..
D'accord avec taowen. C'est peut-être monotone sur la partie Xinjiang, mais le couloir du Gansu et les régions tibétaines entre Lanzhou et Zoige sont chouettes.
Après, plutôt que descendre via Chengdu, tu as la possibilité de couper en direction de Kangding / Litang / Xiangcheng / Zhongdian / Lijiang / Dali. Détour très chouette vers Daocheng et Yading.
Aucune idée où en sont les visas chinois. Cet été, ils étaient encore limités à 1 mois sauf certains cas spéciaux (genre possibilité d'obtenir 2 ou 3 mois avec une lettre d'invitation de qq'un sur place). Si la situation au Xinjiang se tasse, les visas de 3 mois pourraient être à nouveau délivrés.
Sinon, au niveau du climat, on peut s'attendre à quoi sur cette route plus au nord ? On devrait arriver vers octobre novembre ...
Ça devrait être moins gênant que la route du Tibet je pense, non ?
Sinon, je viens de lire un blog daté de fin septembre qui dit qu'aucune communication ne passe depuis l'ouest de la Chine vers l'Europe, ni portable, ni fixe, ni internet ... ce serait tout coupé par les autorités ... Ca arrive souvent ce genre de blague ?
Bonjour
Je prépare un Bangkok Paris en juin 2010 avec ma voiture perso nous serons 4 copains et deux voitures Je suis a négocier les autorisations avec les Chinois ils nous imposent un guide c est pas très simple mais bon
La route c est frontière du Laos Kunning Chengdu Xian Lanzhou Duhuang Aksi Kashi Turugard a la frontière avec le Kirghistan
Toutes les infos sont les bienvenus sur la route et les endroits sympas
Pour l'extension de ton visa, nous on a pu le faire sans difficulté à Ali, normalement fermé aux étrangers... en 2005 évidemment cela date un peu...
Par contre si tu arrive en Novembre a Kunming, tu risque d'avoir très froid par cette route, pire d'être coincée par des cols fermé par la neige... Mais bon... Il y'en a toujours qui passe et qui aime cela...
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Pour l'extension de ton visa, nous on a pu le faire sans difficulté à Ali, normalement fermé aux étrangers... en 2005 évidemment cela date un peu...
Attention, comme tu le précises bien d'ailleurs, c'était en 2005, soit avant les événements de 2008. La situation a bien changé depuis. Les derniers cyclos qui ont pu passer en indépendants sur cette route, c'était à l'automne 2007...
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Sinon, je viens de lire un blog daté de fin septembre qui dit qu'aucune communication ne passe depuis l'ouest de la Chine vers l'Europe, ni portable, ni fixe, ni internet ... ce serait tout coupé par les autorités ... Ca arrive souvent ce genre de blague ?
C'est lié aux émeutes dans le Xinjiang, et la "plaisanterie" a duré une grande partie de l'été. D'une manière générale, plein de sites occidentaux sont bloqués plus ou moins en permanence par les autorités. Le forum Lonely Planet (Thorn Tree) est régulièrement inaccessible.
Il y a un site interessant à visiter, Bingling Si à une centaine de km de Lanzhou, une série de grottes avec peintures rupestres et un bouddha sculpté dans la falaise, dans un beau canyon.On atteind le site en bateau pour traverser un réservoir depuis la ville bien sympa de Yingjing ( hotel).
Dommage que les Chinois aient trop bétonné le site avec leurs grosses passerelles en béton.
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
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Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena
vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes
Here are his travels
Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné
Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way
Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place
Rural and quite peaceful
A road cycling route created by Serge B...
First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025.
It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border.
We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure!
Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou