Voici notre début d'itinéraire prévu début octobre, ça sera nos premiers safaris:
-Dimanche: arrivé a Johannesburg a 11h
-Lundi: route vers Blyde Canyon (nuit a ???)
-Mardi: visite de Blyde Canyon (nuit a Greskop)
-Mercredi: route pour le Kruger (Lebata camp)
-Jeudi: Kruger (nuit vers Tambati)
-Vendredi: Kruger (nuit a Skukuza)
-Samedi: Kruger (Nuit a Skukuza)
-Dimanche: départ pour le Swasiland (Hlane park)
-Lundi: Mkhaya
-Mardi: St Lucia
-Mercredi: St Lucia
-Jeudi: Hluhluwe Imfolozi NP
-Vendredi: Hluhluwe Imfolozi NP
J'aurais quelques conseils par rapport a cet itinéraire.
-Que pensez vous des durées dans chaque endrois?
-N'y a t'il pas trop de Safari, sachant qu'apres nous partons au Drakensberg, Royal Natal, et highland?
-Vu que nous arrivons a Johannesburg vers 11h, et que nous ne voulons pas rester a Johannesburg, ou nous conseilleriez vous de passer la premiere nuit? Je pense qu'avec la fatigue, rejoindre Blyde canyon soit trop long?
-Après la visite de Blyde Canyon le Mardi, nous conseillez vous de commencer a s'appocher du Kruger pour passer la nuit ou rester vers Greskop?
-Le Samedi qui est notre dernier jour au Kruger, nous conseillez vous de passer une deuxieme nuit a Skukuza comme sur l'itinéraire ou sortir du parc pour s'appocher du Swaziland?
Dulstroom comme étape le premier jour
Rester à Graskop, c’est pas loin
Ou l’hôtel juste à l’entrée de la Kruger gate par exemple
Verifiez mais j’ai fait Hlane White River facilement ( c’est un peu comme Skukuza Hlane) en partant pas tôt et en arrivant avant 15 heures
Nuit 1 : Middelburg ou un peu plus loin .
Nuit 2 : sortie Blyde donc vers hoedspruit.
Dernière nuit Skukuza à changer pour Berg en Dal, Biyamiti (bush camp) ou Crocodile bridge.
Le reste me paraît bien sauf si la nuit réservée à Mkhaya est sur une option 1600-1600.
Pour les safaris, c'est selon chacun . Certains se lassent vite, d'autres voudraient que ça ne s arrête jamais.
Là, vous faites des parcs variés donc avec des paysages différents.
Autre ambiance en plus au Swaziland et à Santa lucia.
-N'y a t'il pas trop de Safari, sachant qu'apres nous partons au Drakensberg, Royal Natal, et highland?
Dans ces sites, rien à voir avec des safaris, ce sont plutôt des randos.
Comme le disait Attila, le nombre de safaris dépend de chacun. Nous, après 4 jours dans le Kruger (+d'autres parcs) avec l'observation de très nombreux animaux, nous avions un peu l'overdose, et nous n'avons finalement pas visité Hluhluwe Imfolozi. Je pense que 3 jours dans le Kruger nous auraient suffi. D'autres visiteurs restaient une semaine entière, et ce n'était pas la 1ère fois. En terminant un parcours par le Kruger, c'est sans doute différent, vous voyez le meilleur à la fin.
-Vu que nous arrivons a Johannesburg vers 11h, et que nous ne voulons pas rester a Johannesburg, ou nous conseilleriez vous de passer la premiere nuit? Je pense qu'avec la fatigue, rejoindre Blyde canyon soit trop long?
Pour rejoindre Graskop, nous avons mis environ 5H30 de route (sans les arrêts et sans embouteillage, alors que 4H environ prévus par Google map...), départ vers 12H de l'aéroport, arrivée vers 19H pas idéale de nuit avec les virages dans la montagne. Il n'y a pas que la fatigue, il y a aussi l'habitude de la conduite à gauche. Dulstroom, proposé par Michel, semble une étape pas mal, un peu avant les montagnes.
-Après la visite de Blyde Canyon le Mardi, nous conseillez vous de commencer a s'appocher du Kruger pour passer la nuit ou rester vers Greskop?
Pour rejoindre Lebata camp, il faut plutôt compter le temps à l'arrivée à la porte du parc (Phalaborwa), et non au camp même. Selon Google map, de Graskop c'est environ 2H20, de Hoedspruit moins d'une heure. Ensuite, le 1er safari commence tout de suite (50 km/h maxi). Je dirais que le choix dépend de votre temps consacré la veille à Blyde river canyon et aux nombreuses chutes vers Sabie. Si vous terminez le parcours aux Three Rondavels, il faut moins de 1H30 pour continuer sur Hoedspruit, contre 45 mn pour retourner en arrière direct vers Graskop. Tenir compte de ces temps pour éviter de rouler de nuit.
-Le Samedi qui est notre dernier jour au Kruger, nous conseillez vous de passer une deuxieme nuit a Skukuza comme sur l'itinéraire ou sortir du parc pour s'appocher du Swaziland?
Comme Attila, un autre camp vers le Sud, par ex Crocodile gate bridge ou Malelane, afin de partir frais dès le lendemain matin vers le Swaziland. Eventuellement, un hébergement juste à l'extérieur du parc, peut-être moins cher.
Bonjour a tous
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide.
Suivant vos conseils, voici ce que ça pourrai donner:
-Dimanche: arrivé a Johannesburg a 11h, départ pour Dulstroom ou Middelburg
-Lundi: route et début de visite de Blyde Canyon (nuit a Greskop)
-Mardi: visite de Blyde Canyon (nuit vers l'entrée du kruger)
-Mercredi: route pour le Kruger (Lebata camp)
-Jeudi: Kruger (nuit vers Tambati)
-Vendredi: Kruger (nuit a Skukuza)
-Samedi: Kruger (Nuit soit a Berg en dal, Biyamiti, Crocodile Bridge ou hors du park)
-Dimanche: départ pour le Swasiland (Hlane park)
-Lundi: Mkhaya pour 10h
-Mardi: St Lucia
-Mercredi: St Lucia
-Jeudi: Hluhluwe Imfolozi NP
-Vendredi: Hluhluwe Imfolozi NP
Qu'en pensez vous? Ca reste logique au niveau des nuits et des temps de visite?
Avant de reserver, j'aurais quelques questions pour éviter de me planter.
-Au niveau de la location du vehicule, sachant que nous sommes 3 adultes a partir en octobre et qu'apres les safaris nous irons au Drakensberg, Royal Natal et au Golden Gate Highland. Pensez qu'une voiture type VW Polo, Vivo, Suzuki Swift, Toyota Yaris soit suffisant car niveau budget c'est plutôt interréssant? Pour les safaris c'est surrement pas le top?
-Sinon dans les parcs il y a les Safaris Tente, je voudrais savoir si il y a l'éléctricité et la possibilité de recharger des batteries?
-Autrement, faut t'il prendre un traitement contre le palu?
Pour 3 adultes, je conseille en petit budget la Toyota Corolla. Faut pas prendre trop petit même si n'importe véhicule peut emprunter les pistes du Kruger. ( Confort, pas mal d'heures dans la voiture, espace pour bouger pour que tout le monde puisse voir les animaux, affaires à prendre avec soi comme les appareils photos, à boire, à grignoter etc)
Un Suv serait mieux pour les parcs animaliers mais vous ne manquerez pas grand chose avec une voiture plus basse.
je voudrais savoir si il y a l'éléctricité et la possibilité de recharger des batteries?
Je pense que oui mais je ne peux être affirmative.
Il faudra acheter un adaptateur.
Par ailleurs, un convertisseur à brancher sur l'allume cigare ne coûte pas très cher et est très pratique pour les autotours sans accès à l'électricité.
Autrement, faut t'il prendre un traitement contre le palu?
Personnellement, je n'en prends pas pour ce pays mais je ne peux pas écrire que le risque soit égal au zéro absolu.
Et encore merci pour votre aide, suite a vos conseils nous avons commencé nos reservations.
Voila ce que ça donne:
-Dimanche 30: arrivé a 10:55, route pour Dullstroom et (nuit au Elandskloof Trout Farm)
-Lundi 01: Graskop et debut de visite (nuit au Zur Alten Mine)
-Mardi 02: Suite des visites et route pour Phalaborwa (nuit au Lalamo Guesthouse)
-Mercredi 03: Kruger (nuit au Letaba rest camp BD3U)
-Jeudi 04: Kruger (nuit a Olifants rest camp BD3U)
-Vendredi 05: Kruger (nuit au Skukuza rest camp BG3E)
-Samedi 06: Kruger route pour Marloth (nuit au Tree House)
-Dimanche 07: Swaziland Hlane Royal NP (nuit au Bhudesi camp)
-Lundi 08: Swaziland a 10:00 au Mkhaya Game reserve
Voila ce qu'il en est pour moment.
Pour la suite, nous avons vaguement prévu ça:
-Mardi 29: St Lucia
-Mercredi 30: St Lucia
-Jeudi 11: Hluhluwe Imfolozi NP
-Vendredi 12: Hluhluwe Imfolozi NP
-Samedi 13: Drakensberg NP
-Dimanche 14: Drakensberg NP
-Lundi 15: Drakensberg NP
-Mardi 16: Royal Natal NP
-Mercredi 17: Royal Natal NP
-Jeudi 18: ???
-Vendredi: Route pour Johannesburg
-Samedi: vol pour la france en fin d'après midi
Suivant ce que j'ai pour le moment que me conseillez vous pour ce Jeudi 18? Ou faut t'il mieux allonger la durée d'une étape?
Sinon dans chaque lieux, dans quel secteur nous conseillez vous de passer les nuits?
Sur ses étape je suis un peu perdu dans l'organisation et savoir quoi faire chaque jours.
Perso je resterais une journée de plus à St Lucia.
Pourquoi ?
Pour avoir une vraie grande journée dans l'Isimangaliso côté St Lucia et une matinée pour aller voir les baleines en sortie bateau avec advantage tour (rien que le bateau c'est une expérience).
De plus cela permettrait en cas de mauvais temps d'avoir 2 créneaux pour les baleines.
Et après la matinée baleines on fait quoi ?
Ben on va dans l'autre partie de l'Isimangaliso!
Pourquoi ?
Parce que maintenant en plus du cadre, des buffles, des rhinos et des antilopes que l'on peut voir...il y a des éléphants !
Donc western shores et eastern shores !
(l'entrée côté Cape Vidal pour la journée complète et l'une des deux autres entrées pour la 1/2 journée).
Bon, ben voilà mon opinion ...ce n'est que la mienne.
Pour le Drakensberg
Toujours perso
J'irais voir sur un site comme midlands meanders pour trouver une accommodation au niveau de Estcourt...
Histoire de pouvoir simplement aller dans le massif du Kamberg voir les san paintings, à Highmoor pour une belle balade facile, à Giant's castle et à Champagne valley Cathedral Peak en partant du même logement.
Entre le RNNP et Johannesbourg, sur des conseils, nous sommes passés par le Golden Gate Highlands NP et Clarens, dans la journée. Nous n'avons pas regretté, c'est magnifique. La route est un peu longue et monotone ensuite, et on récupère assez loin l'autoroute.
-Donc une nuit de plus a St lucia devrait etre possible donc ça ferait 3 nuits a st Lucia. Nous conseillez vous de loger au même lieux pour les 3 nuits ou il serait plus pratique de faire une nuit dans un autre secteur pour faciliter les visites car les distances ont l'air assez longue?
-Pour les 2 jours et 2 nuits a Hluhluwe Imfolozi NP quel est la meilleur option, le faire avant ou après St Lucia? Auriez vous des recommandations au niveau des logement, lieux, etc....?
-Pour Drakensberg, passer les 3 nuits a Estcourt est une bonne option aussi ou il faut mieux changer secteur pour une nuit?
-Sinon pas de probleme pour passer par le Golden Gate Hightland NP pour rejoindre Johannesburg.
Perso je passerais 3 nuits à St Lucia et au même endroit.
Avant ou après le Hluhluwe, pour moi, 0 importance.
Loger DANS le parc si possible (Mpila ou Hiltop)
Je n'ai pas dit à Estcourt mais à la latitude de Estcourt.
Perso je relogerai au même endroit et de cet endroit on peut aller vers Cath Peak , Champagne Valley, Kamberg et Highmoor dans la journée (une journée pour chaque endroit)...
Mais on peut aussi choisir de loger dans l'un de ces parcs...mais c'est plus dur de voir les autres ou alors il faut passer de l'un à l'autre et faire et refaire ses bagages.
Le golden gate j'y poserai un pied en Mai pour la première fois.
Pour le Royal Natal NP, vous auriez des hebergements a me conseiller?
Nous aimerions faire le Sentinel Trail et je ne trouve rien a proximité du sentinel car park.
je vais éssayé de trouver ça, même dans le LP il n'y a vraiment pas grand chose sur Royal Natal NP.
Sinon, j'aurais une derniere chose a savoir au niveau de la Wildcard
J'ai été sur le site mais j'y comprend pas grand chose.
Quel est la Wildcard qu'il nous faudrait sachant que nous ferons le Kruger (3j), Blyde river canyon, Hlane NP (swaziland), Mkhaya game reserve (swaziland), St Lucia, Hluhluwe Imfolozi NP, Drakensberg, Royal Natal NP.
Il y a la All park cluster, Sanpark cluster, etc..........................................
Parmi les parc que je visite aussi en Afrique du sud qu'au Swaziland, quels sont les parcs qui font parti de la Wildcard?
En ce qui concerne la Wild card, en fait tu n'as pas le choix. Etant donné que tu n'est pas Africain du sud, ta seule option est la wild card " International All parks cluster".
Tu pourras également trouver sur le site de Sanpark tous les parcs et réserves inclus.
Tu as la liste des parcs pour lesquels la wild card permet l'entrée "gratuite".
Dont les parcs du san park ceux du kzn wildlife et ceux du swaziland Hlane et Mkhaya.
Dans ta liste celui qui n'y est pas, l'isimangaliso. Pour ceux de la blyde...regarde la liste je ne me souviens pas.
J'ai calculé pour Golden gate, Giants Highmoor, Hlane et 4 nuits dans le krûger et j'y gagne, de peu mais oui quand même.
Pour le RNNP...mes enfants y vont en mars et logerons dans le upper camp, ça à l'air très bien !
Pour le Sentinel trail, ce n'est pas le même accès que la porte principale du Royal Natal NP. Il faut compter environ 1H30 de route en contournant le Sterkfontein dam. Tu es alors plus proche du Golden Gate Highlands NP, et c'est par là qu'il faut chercher un hébergement. Le LP propose le Karma backpackers. Nous avions aussi repéré le Qwantani sur le lac de Sterkfontein.
Pour la Wild card, la formule la plus intéressante est à 3455 rands pour un couple d'étranger, soit 1728 par personne (tarifs 2017). Pour la rentabiliser, il faut au moins 4 à 5 jours dans le Kruger qui est de loin le parc le plus cher (304 rands/jour/personne), et voir avec les autres parcs. Attention, si tu passes 3 nuits dans le Kruger, donc 4 jours sur place, ca compte pour 3 entrées. Si tu dors à l'extérieur du Kruger, et passe les portes 4 jours de suite, ca compte pour 4 entrées.
- Compris dans la carte : Kruger , Hlane, Mkhaya, Hluhluwe Imfolozi, Drakensberg (mais a priori pas les visites guidées des grottes), Royal Natal.
- Non compris : Blyde river canyon, St Lucia (Isimangaliso). Aucun avantage sur les sorties (games drives) ou sur les hébergements.
Pour les tarifs (entrées et hébergements) des parcs gérés par SAN : https://www.sanparks.org/tourism/tariffs/
Les autres parcs ont aussi leurs sites.
A ta calculette ! Mais pour nous, ce n'était pas intéressant. Nous étions à 1302 rands (dont 912 pour le Kruger) sur les 1728, sachant comme dit plus haut, que d'autres parcs ne sont pas inclus.
Effectivement le Karma Backpackers a l'air d'etre un bon compromis. Je ne l'avais pas vu celui ci.
Pour le Royal Natal NP, les portent principales offre t'elle des randos et paysage aussi sympa que le Sentinel trail? Je me dis que logiquement les portes principal doivent donner acces a ce qu'il y a de mieux? Mais ma logique est peutetre mauvaise😛.
Sinon, niveau Wildcard, si je calcule bien:
-3 jours a Kruger vu que nous restont 3 nuits dans le parc et la 4 ème a l'exterieur ça fait: 23€x3= 69€
-2 jours au Hluhluwe -Imfolozi avec la nuit a l'exterieur ça fait: 15€x2= 30€
-1 jour et 1 nuit au Hlane ça fait 4€
-Le Mkhawa, il me semble que c'est compis dans le pack lodge, safari, repas, etc....
Si j'ai les bon prix, pour le moment j'en suit a 103€ par personne
Je ne connais pas trop les prix du drakenberg, royal natal et du Golden gate si nous somme pas loin, mais visiblement pour nous ça n'a pas l'air d'etre très avantageux. Enfin si je ne plante pas🤪
Il vaut mieux compter en rands, car les taux changent...
Attila t'a donné les prix en rands.
Pour le Giant's Castle, le Royal Natal, nous avons payé 40 rands / personne
Pour le Golden Gate, étrangement nous n'avons rien payé, aucun ranger en vue.
A partir des portes principales du Royal Natal, les sentiers sont effectivement nombreux :
- Pour la description : www.kznwildlife.com/...-thendele-hikes.html
- Pour la carte : photo en PJ
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Mars ou Mai 2027.
du genre 15 j dans le Western Cape
puis 15 j dans le KNP sud.
Arrivée soit à PE soit à Georges.
Les pros savent que je connais un peu le coin...que je ne campe pas...que mes logements peuvent être simples et paumés, en self catering mais que le basique + est requis...que je cherche des coins plutôt hors des sentiers battus...sur un mode soft...
De Georges:
Arrivée tardive... repos nécessaire... Herolds bay à partir de Georges pour N1
Tsitsikamma me fait de l'oeil (Storms river)... avec ou sans stop à Knysna
question:
quel est l'état actuel de la pass de Knyskna à Uniondale ? R339
Et tant que j'y suis l'état de la R340
Tsitsi, Knysna et mes questions restent valables si c'est arrivée à PE.
La Swartberg semble encore coupée ?
Une idée de logement à Prince Albert ?
Si je franchis l'escarpement je continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... des opinions ?
De là... Tankwa Karoo ou Mount Cedar (ou les deux)
Puis redescente vers la mer... les hauts de Hermanus ou Kogelberg NR (des opinions sur celle ci ?)...
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Plus classique le long de la côte...
Si j'arrive (assez tard à PE)... des idées sur un logement dans ce petit coin ?
Sachant que le Nyathi camp me fait un clin d'oeil...
(pour l'histoire... il y a un peu longtemps j'ai séjourné au Riverbend (même secteur d'Addo, concession privée)... et j'ai visité les ruines de ce lodge abandonné à l'époque et visiblement refait depuis... qui se situe dans une partie très peu visitée d'Addo...).
Un pro aurait-il des retours ?
Bon ben voilà...
Evidemment je suis preneur de tout autre avis ou conseil !
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
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I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!