Durées d'escales minimum pour les États-Unis: un risque à prendre?
by Leamail
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, à la recherche frénétique de billets d'avion pour les Etats-Unis, je me pose une question concernant la durée minimum à prévoir lors d'une escale aux Etats-Unis.
En effet, je dois me rendre à San Diego de Nantes et il y aura forcément deux escales (l'une à Paris ou Amsterdam vraisemblablement) et l'autre sur le territoire américain avant de reprendre un avion pour SD.
Beaucoup de compagnies prévoient au cours d'une escale entre 3/4 d'heure et 1 heure d'escale pour le changement d'avion. Evidemment c'est tentant car lorsqu'on fait un voyage aussi long, chaque heure de voyage gagnée est à prendre en compte, cependant je me demande si ce n'est pas prendre beaucoup de risques liés aux retards, aux contrôles douanes, au suivi des bagages etc.
Quels sont vos expériences à ce sujet??? Merci pour votre aide.
Bonjour,
Quand tu arrives aux Etats Unis : - tu passes l'immigration (empreintes, photos, quelques questions...), - tu récupères tes bagages, - tu passes la douane avec tes bagages, - tu redéposes tes bagages sur un tapis, juste après la douane, - tu t'occupes de ta correspondance, - et tu repasses les contrôles de sécurité.
Même si ton avion arrive à l’heure, s'il y a très peu de monde à l'immigration, 1h c’est vraiment très très juste…. 3/4h, non !
Quand tu arrives aux Etats Unis : - tu passes l'immigration (empreintes, photos, quelques questions...), - tu récupères tes bagages, - tu passes la douane avec tes bagages, - tu redéposes tes bagages sur un tapis, juste après la douane, - tu t'occupes de ta correspondance, - et tu repasses les contrôles de sécurité.
Même si ton avion arrive à l’heure, s'il y a très peu de monde à l'immigration, 1h c’est vraiment très très juste…. 3/4h, non !
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Quels sont vos expériences à ce sujet???
Pour être tranquille, il vaut mieux tabler sur un minimum de 2 heures pour une escale aux Etats-Unis. Bon séjour ! Christine
Pour être tranquille, il vaut mieux tabler sur un minimum de 2 heures pour une escale aux Etats-Unis. Bon séjour ! Christine
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Bonsoir Steph,
deux escales (l'une à Paris
Cela dépend aussi de ton avioneur ; si tu pars avec AF de Nantes puis CDG puis USA, ton escale à CDG peut être courte car tu ne changes pas de compagnie. S'il faut que tu récupères tes bagages, changes d'aérogare, c'est court.
deux escales (l'une à Paris
Cela dépend aussi de ton avioneur ; si tu pars avec AF de Nantes puis CDG puis USA, ton escale à CDG peut être courte car tu ne changes pas de compagnie. S'il faut que tu récupères tes bagages, changes d'aérogare, c'est court.
perso je prends toujours beaucoup de marge
* je n'ai pas envie de me stresser * je n'ai pas envie de courrir * je n'ai pas envie que mes bagages ne suivent pas (et d'etre obligée d'attendre le lendemain car en general je quitte immediatement le lieu d'arrivée et je n'ai pas d'adresse fixe car je campe ) * je sais que les vols du matin de toulouse à amsterdam sont souvent retardés (appareils plus tout jeune )
bien sur si tu n'as qu'un seul billet et que tu rates ta connexion pour cause de retard la compagnie se doit de te rerouter mais il faut attendre les vols suivants (et qu'il y ait de la place) tout depend donc du risque que tu est pret à prendre de perdre un jour de congé (voir plus si tu as des reservation d'hotels ou de voiture)
si tu pars seul pour un TDM et que tu n'es pas pressé pas de probleme tentes le coup si tu pars en famille à 5 pour 15 jours de congés c'est toi qui voit 😉
* je n'ai pas envie de me stresser * je n'ai pas envie de courrir * je n'ai pas envie que mes bagages ne suivent pas (et d'etre obligée d'attendre le lendemain car en general je quitte immediatement le lieu d'arrivée et je n'ai pas d'adresse fixe car je campe ) * je sais que les vols du matin de toulouse à amsterdam sont souvent retardés (appareils plus tout jeune )
bien sur si tu n'as qu'un seul billet et que tu rates ta connexion pour cause de retard la compagnie se doit de te rerouter mais il faut attendre les vols suivants (et qu'il y ait de la place) tout depend donc du risque que tu est pret à prendre de perdre un jour de congé (voir plus si tu as des reservation d'hotels ou de voiture)
si tu pars seul pour un TDM et que tu n'es pas pressé pas de probleme tentes le coup si tu pars en famille à 5 pour 15 jours de congés c'est toi qui voit 😉
MERCI pour vos réponses... Elles me confortent dans l'opinion que je m'en faisais déjà!!
Mais bouhhh que c'est compliqué: soit on me propose des escales d'une heure tout au plus, soit ce sont des voyages d'une quarantaine d'heures avec des heures interminables d'attente. Je vais essayer de trouver au mieux. 😕
tu peux aussi t'arreter à LA y passer la nuit et prendre un vehicule pour SD
ou monter à paris pour prendre un vol (dans ce cas là prends bcp de mou aussi ) mais cela se calcule en terme de temps mais aussi de tarif (plus de choix au depart de paris)
apres des direct pour san diego c'est à partir de londres
ou monter à paris pour prendre un vol (dans ce cas là prends bcp de mou aussi ) mais cela se calcule en terme de temps mais aussi de tarif (plus de choix au depart de paris)
apres des direct pour san diego c'est à partir de londres
Bonjour
Au départ de Nantes
2008 Chicago (vol vers Phoenix) 1h30 entre le moment où on QUITTE l'avion et celui où on ENTRE dans l'autre: Iberia par Madrid
2009 Chicago 1h15 (vol vers Denver)- mêmes conditions
2011 Chicago again! 2h45 d'attente à l'immigration (en cause le nombre de plus en plus réduit de guichets ouverts dûs aux horaires de fin de journée + le bor...l que mettent les voyageurs se trompant de file) Heureusement Chicago n'était pas une escale... même compagnie
2 heures semblent assurer une marge confortable, en moyenne .... nous visons maintenant et tant pis pour le temps perdu ( retraite...😎) plus de 3 heures pour ne plus stresser et s'assurer que les voyageurs et les bagages arrivent en même temps.
Alain
PS: LA - San Diego se fait gentiment en 2h de voiture. Question donc : quel temps passerez vous entre l’atterrissage à LA et l'arrivée à San Diego... A calculer en tenant compte de la fatigue du voyage et de l'heure d'arrivée
Au départ de Nantes
2008 Chicago (vol vers Phoenix) 1h30 entre le moment où on QUITTE l'avion et celui où on ENTRE dans l'autre: Iberia par Madrid
2009 Chicago 1h15 (vol vers Denver)- mêmes conditions
2011 Chicago again! 2h45 d'attente à l'immigration (en cause le nombre de plus en plus réduit de guichets ouverts dûs aux horaires de fin de journée + le bor...l que mettent les voyageurs se trompant de file) Heureusement Chicago n'était pas une escale... même compagnie
2 heures semblent assurer une marge confortable, en moyenne .... nous visons maintenant et tant pis pour le temps perdu ( retraite...😎) plus de 3 heures pour ne plus stresser et s'assurer que les voyageurs et les bagages arrivent en même temps.
Alain
PS: LA - San Diego se fait gentiment en 2h de voiture. Question donc : quel temps passerez vous entre l’atterrissage à LA et l'arrivée à San Diego... A calculer en tenant compte de la fatigue du voyage et de l'heure d'arrivée
Bonsoir, 🙂
Ici, les temps d'attente aux aéroports US, mais ça ne veut absolument rien dire. 🤪 A Houston (l'enfer 😠), on a raté l'avion suivant, malgré une escale de 3h45 initialement prévue (1h45 de retard d'avion + 2h d'attente à l'immigration 🤪). A New York, passage souvent rapide. 😎 Bref, ça dépend de l'aéroport et de l'heure d'arrivée. Eviter de choisir le dernier vol de la journée, pour avoir une solution de secours. 🙂
Ici, les temps d'attente aux aéroports US, mais ça ne veut absolument rien dire. 🤪 A Houston (l'enfer 😠), on a raté l'avion suivant, malgré une escale de 3h45 initialement prévue (1h45 de retard d'avion + 2h d'attente à l'immigration 🤪). A New York, passage souvent rapide. 😎 Bref, ça dépend de l'aéroport et de l'heure d'arrivée. Eviter de choisir le dernier vol de la journée, pour avoir une solution de secours. 🙂
Les concours photos VF
Au moins 2 hrs entre les vols, surtout si tu passes à la douane en arrivant. Même avec 2 hrs, j'ai raté ma correspondance pour San Francisco (a Houston) et je n'ai pu repartir que le lendemain. Et pas de frais d'hotel remboursés par la compagnie 🙁.
Prends bien un plan de l'aeroport avant de partir. Tu peux verifier ou sont les differents terminaux.
Have a great trip.
Kristen
Bonjour à tous,
j'ai à peu près le même soucis.
J'ai pris des vols pour New-York avec Iceland Air : départ de CDG, escale à Keflavik d'1h et vol pour NY.
Y'en a t'il parmi vous à qui c'est déjà arrivé?
L'aéroport de Keflavik est tout petit parait-il et les bagages suivent automatiquement.
j'ai à peu près le même soucis.
J'ai pris des vols pour New-York avec Iceland Air : départ de CDG, escale à Keflavik d'1h et vol pour NY.
Y'en a t'il parmi vous à qui c'est déjà arrivé?
L'aéroport de Keflavik est tout petit parait-il et les bagages suivent automatiquement.
Bonjour ,
Nous aurons ce type d' escale au retour de Denver en septembre . Même compagnie , aéroport "familial" , pas de formalités "américaines" , il parait qui' il n' y a rien à craindre . A l' aller ça ira encore mieux puisque nous ferons étape 1 semaine en Islande ! 😉
Nous aurons ce type d' escale au retour de Denver en septembre . Même compagnie , aéroport "familial" , pas de formalités "américaines" , il parait qui' il n' y a rien à craindre . A l' aller ça ira encore mieux puisque nous ferons étape 1 semaine en Islande ! 😉
D'ailleurs les formalités "américaines" sont faites à Paris avant embarquement et il y a juste à changer d'avion ou alors en Islande avant le 2nd vol?
Les formalités "américaines" sont faites en Amérique. 😛
Pour l'escale à Reykyavik, l'avion au départ a tout intérêt à attendre les passagers avec correspondance s'il ne veut pas partir vide (ou presque). 😏😏😄
Les concours photos VF
Partant souvent de Nantes, je trouve l'aéroport d'Amsterdam très agréable et fonctionnel par rapport à Roissy.
Il existe une file spéciale pour les connexions courtes (inférieure à 1 heure.)
Par contre Régional nous a modifié l'horaire au départ de Nantes de 5 heures (3 semaines avant le départ) , le vol de fin d 'après midi et devenu fin de matinée avec allongement de l'escale d'autant.
Les formalités "américaines" sont faites en Amérique. 😛
Pas toujours, au Canada les formalités américaines se sont au Canada, avant le départ. Donc aucun contrôle à faire une fois arrivé sur le territoire étatsunien.
Pas toujours, au Canada les formalités américaines se sont au Canada, avant le départ. Donc aucun contrôle à faire une fois arrivé sur le territoire étatsunien.
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au Canada les formalités américaines se sont au Canada
Oui, c'est bien ça: en Amérique. 😏
Oui, c'est bien ça: en Amérique. 😏
Les concours photos VF
Ca y est! Les billets d'avion sont réservés!! J'espère que ça ira:
Départ de Nantes, escale de 2 heures à Amsterdam, puis escale de 3h30 à New-York (dur, dur, on aura envie de dormir...🤪) et arrivée à San Diego 22h21 heure locale.
Retour: Départ Las Vegas, 2 h d'escale à Atlanta, puis 1h30 d'escale à Amsterdam avant le retour sur Nantes.
Merci pour vos conseils en tout cas!!
Retour: Départ Las Vegas, 2 h d'escale à Atlanta, puis 1h30 d'escale à Amsterdam avant le retour sur Nantes.
Merci pour vos conseils en tout cas!!
Nous partons le 27/07 à 10h05. La durée du voyage(aller) est de 21h16, avec les correspondances.
Voilà!
Longue journée ! 🏴☠️ 😉 mais la Californie au bout. 😎
3h30 à NY, c'est bien.
Les concours photos VF
Nous partons le 27/07 à 10h05. La durée du voyage(aller) est de 21h16, avec les correspondances.
Voilà!
C'est bien long. Je préfère payer un peu plus et faire un vol direct CDG/LAX et ensuite conduire vers San Diego. J'ai toujours peur que mes bagages ne suivent pas. Même si les bagages arrivent le lendemain, on peut perdre une journée de vacances.
C'est bien long. Je préfère payer un peu plus et faire un vol direct CDG/LAX et ensuite conduire vers San Diego. J'ai toujours peur que mes bagages ne suivent pas. Même si les bagages arrivent le lendemain, on peut perdre une journée de vacances.
Nous partons le 27/07 à 10h05. La durée du voyage(aller) est de 21h16, avec les correspondances.
Voilà!
C'est bien long. Je préfère payer un peu plus et faire un vol direct CDG/LAX et ensuite conduire vers San Diego. J'ai toujours peur que mes bagages ne suivent pas. Même si les bagages arrivent le lendemain, on peut perdre une journée de vacances.
C'est fait maintenant!!
Etape suivante: trouver tous les logements sur notre itinéraire pour une famille de 5 sans se ruiner. Je regarde du côté des B§B pour Los Angeles...Si vous avez des tuyaux!!🙂
C'est bien long. Je préfère payer un peu plus et faire un vol direct CDG/LAX et ensuite conduire vers San Diego. J'ai toujours peur que mes bagages ne suivent pas. Même si les bagages arrivent le lendemain, on peut perdre une journée de vacances.
C'est fait maintenant!!
Etape suivante: trouver tous les logements sur notre itinéraire pour une famille de 5 sans se ruiner. Je regarde du côté des B§B pour Los Angeles...Si vous avez des tuyaux!!🙂
Etape suivante: trouver tous les logements sur notre itinéraire pour une famille de 5 sans se ruiner.
As-tu regardé ici et là ? 🙂
As-tu regardé ici et là ? 🙂
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J'y vais de ce pas, merci!
Si quelqu'un a aussi des infos sur des b and b à Los Angeles et - si ça existe- dans les grands parcs, je suis preneuse! Merci!
Si quelqu'un a aussi des infos sur des b and b à Los Angeles et - si ça existe- dans les grands parcs, je suis preneuse! Merci!
Les B&B aux USA sont souvent beaucoup plus cher qu'un hotel/motel. Fais bien attention.
Tu peux avoir une idée des prix des B&B à L.A. sur ce site:
http://www.bedandbreakfast.com/los-angeles-california.html
http://www.bedandbreakfast.com/los-angeles-california.html
tu peux aussi regarder sur http://www.booking.com/
bien souvent l'annulation est gratuite 😉
quand mes filles etaient petites elles dormaient à 3 dans un meme lit (ils sont si grands )
quand mes filles etaient petites elles dormaient à 3 dans un meme lit (ils sont si grands )
Bonsoir , je pense que la durée minimale d'une escale aux USA en provenance d'Europe est de 2h30 car il ne faut pas oublier que les vols ne sont jamais à l'heure, que l'on doit passer la douane ( or cela peut-étre trés long) , qu'il faut un certain temps pour se rendre à la prochaine corespondance.
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Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Merci de me conseiller pour la réservation pour la plus belle vue faut il réserver une chambre dans l'hôtel ou choisir une cabane ?
Prendre le petit déjeuner ou pas ?
Que pensez vous du restaurant ?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan







