Exemption de visa chinois pour 72 heures
by Sarahtocama
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous envisageons de partir en voyage en Thaïlande en avril prochain. Nous souhaitons faire une escale de 3 jours à Pékin pour y voir de la famille.
Pour cela nous allons demander l exemption de visa de 72h.
Notre avion arrive à Pékin le vendredi à 12h25 et repart pour Bangkok à 14h05 le lundi suivant. Ce qui fait 74h au lieu de 72h.
Sur certains sites il est noté que les 72h débutent à minuit suivant l arrivée dans le pays. Or j ai lu sur un autre site qu à Pekin seulement l exemption de 72h ne doit pas être dépassée et que donc nous devons absolument avoir quitté le territoire le lundi à 12h25 au plus tard.
Savez vous si l exemption nous sera accordée pour Pékin ?
De plus nous repasserons par Pékin 2 semaines plus tard avec une escale de 18h. Est il possible de demander une nouvelle exemption de visa ?
Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour
Même si c'était le cas (ce dont je doute) c'est l'heure de passage à la douane qui compte, pas l'heure d'atterrissage/décollage. Sachant qu'il vous faudra une bonne demi-heure entre le moment où vous toucherez le sol et celui où vous passerez devant l'officier de l'immigration à l'arrivée, et qu'il est sage de vous présenter à l'aéroport au moins deux heures avant votre heure de décollage prévue, vous êtes dans les 72 heures.
c'est l'heure de passage à la douane qui compte
C'est le passage de l'immigration qui compte; la douane n'a rien à voir là dedans. (Mode Pinailleur Pénible OFF) 😉
C'est le passage de l'immigration qui compte; la douane n'a rien à voir là dedans. (Mode Pinailleur Pénible OFF) 😉
De plus nous repasserons par Pékin 2 semaines plus tard avec une escale de 18h. Est il possible de demander une nouvelle exemption de visa ?
Il n'y a pas de limite au nombre d'exemptions de visa. J'ai personnellement bénéficié d'une telle double exemption de visa à l'aller et au retour.
Par ailleurs, je plussoie le fond de la réponse de Mars2012hk. Un soir où mon avion est arrivé très en retard, c'est la date du lendemain qui a été tamponnée dans mon passeport : j'étais arrivé à l'immigration moins de dix minutes après minuit !
Il n'y a pas de limite au nombre d'exemptions de visa. J'ai personnellement bénéficié d'une telle double exemption de visa à l'aller et au retour.
Par ailleurs, je plussoie le fond de la réponse de Mars2012hk. Un soir où mon avion est arrivé très en retard, c'est la date du lendemain qui a été tamponnée dans mon passeport : j'étais arrivé à l'immigration moins de dix minutes après minuit !
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Je suis cette conversation de prêt car j'envisage un " coup " comme ça prochainement ...
Ma question est la suivante :
Est-ce qu'il est envisageable .... ( bien qu'à chaque fois j'ai pas trop envie de faire trop le malin avec l'émigration ....moyen sympa les gars ) ...envisageable de s'assoir sur son sac à dos devant le guichet pour passer l'émigration 3 heures plus tard ???? Question bête 😜
Est-ce qu'il est envisageable .... ( bien qu'à chaque fois j'ai pas trop envie de faire trop le malin avec l'émigration ....moyen sympa les gars ) ...envisageable de s'assoir sur son sac à dos devant le guichet pour passer l'émigration 3 heures plus tard ???? Question bête 😜
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En théorie, ce serait possible; en pratique, je pense qu'un employé vous ferait tôt ou tard passer l'immigration, car personne n'a vocation à s'attarder là, et le cheminement ne s'y prête pas non plus.
Re,
C'est bien ce que j'imaginais ...
Mais il y a un truc qui m'interpelle car je vais à Shanghaï justement , est-ce qu'ils ( l'émigration) mettent l'heure ?? ???? Je viens de vérifier sur mon ancien passeport ? Jamais d'heure
Mais il y a un truc qui m'interpelle car je vais à Shanghaï justement , est-ce qu'ils ( l'émigration) mettent l'heure ?? ???? Je viens de vérifier sur mon ancien passeport ? Jamais d'heure
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Mais il y a un truc qui m'interpelle car je vais à Shanghaï justement, est-ce qu'ils (l'émigration) mettent l'heure ??
???? Je viens de vérifier sur mon ancien passeport ? Jamais d'heure
Pas d'heure non plus indiquée avec le tampon d'exemption de visa dans mon passeport. Cependant, rien n'empêche l'immigration chinoise d'enregistrer informatiquement les références de votre passeport, avec l'heure d'entrée, et de contrôler à la sortie. Après tout, c'est précisément ce que font les immigrations de Hong-Kong et de Macao, respectivement : il n'y a plus de tampon du tout dans le passeport; on se contente de vous glisser un tout petit papier qui n'est qu'un rappel pour vous de la date limite de séjour autorisé. (Dommage pour les collectionneurs de tampons souvenir, mais celui de HK prenait beaucoup de place)
Pas d'heure non plus indiquée avec le tampon d'exemption de visa dans mon passeport. Cependant, rien n'empêche l'immigration chinoise d'enregistrer informatiquement les références de votre passeport, avec l'heure d'entrée, et de contrôler à la sortie. Après tout, c'est précisément ce que font les immigrations de Hong-Kong et de Macao, respectivement : il n'y a plus de tampon du tout dans le passeport; on se contente de vous glisser un tout petit papier qui n'est qu'un rappel pour vous de la date limite de séjour autorisé. (Dommage pour les collectionneurs de tampons souvenir, mais celui de HK prenait beaucoup de place)
Ça ne fonctionnera pas. Le problème sera avec la ligne aérienne qui ne vous laissera pas monter à bord sans visa ou possibilité claire d'exemption.
Selon les règles appliquées par les compagnies aériennes, le calcul est basé sur sur prévue de l'arrivée et du départ de vos vols. D'attendre avant de passer l'immigration ne change rien.
J'ai logé un appel au service de l'immigration de l'aéroport de Beijing il y a un certain temps. Ils m'ont dit que le calcul commence à minuit suivant l'arrivée (comme la plupart des autres villes). Cependant les banques de données de l'IATA utilisée par les ligne aérienne sont basée sur l'heure d'arrivée et de départ.
Merci pour vos réponses.
Dans le doute nous ferons sûrement 24h d escale à l aller et 24h au retour.
Bonjour,
Je risque d’être dans le même cas : arrivée à PEK le 27/04 à 6h30 et départ le 30/04 - 8h20 Sur les billets d'avions ça fait 73h50 d'écart.
En vrai je compte me rendre à l'aéroport avant 8h, mais ça les douanier n'ont pas de garantie.
Si on prend en compte que le jour de démarrage est à 00h00 le 28/04, là ça doit passer.
Du coup je sais pas à quoi me fier.
Les retours d’expérience sur le sujets sont les bienvenus.
Je risque d’être dans le même cas : arrivée à PEK le 27/04 à 6h30 et départ le 30/04 - 8h20 Sur les billets d'avions ça fait 73h50 d'écart.
En vrai je compte me rendre à l'aéroport avant 8h, mais ça les douanier n'ont pas de garantie.
Si on prend en compte que le jour de démarrage est à 00h00 le 28/04, là ça doit passer.
Du coup je sais pas à quoi me fier.
Les retours d’expérience sur le sujets sont les bienvenus.
Comme je l'ai déjà dit plus haut, c'est 72 heures, pas 73 heures. La compagnie aérienne ne vous laissera même pas monter à bord lors de votre départ de la France.
De vous pointer à l'aéroport plus tôt ne change rien, le calcul est basé sur l'heure d'arrivée et de départ des vols.
Donc votre plan ne fonctionne pas.
Bonjour,
Du coup, si je prend ce vol ci (en PJ), je suis bien éligible d'après vous au visa 72 h ?

Du coup, si je prend ce vol ci (en PJ), je suis bien éligible d'après vous au visa 72 h ?

Oui pour moi ça passe puisque vous restez moins de 72h sur Pekin.
Non, il y est 72 heures et 5 minutes.
5 minutes ce n'est rien mais je serais prêt à parier que ça ne fonctionne pas. Mais pas certain à 100%.
Non, il y est 72 heures et 5 minutes.
5 minutes ce n'est rien mais je serais prêt à parier que ça ne fonctionne pas. Mais pas certain à 100%.
Non, tu confonds avec l'arrivée à HND à 12:30 le 30/4, qui ne concerne pas ce problème.
Arrivée à PEK à 12h:25 le 27/4 Départ de PEK à 08:20 le 30/4
C'est OK.
Non, tu confonds avec l'arrivée à HND à 12:30 le 30/4, qui ne concerne pas ce problème.
Arrivée à PEK à 12h:25 le 27/4 Départ de PEK à 08:20 le 30/4
C'est OK.
En effet. Pourtant je l'ai bien relu trois fois cet itinéraire!
Bonjour,
Merci pour vos avis.
Du coup je compte partir la dessus.
Par contre, le vol de départ de 8h20 à pékin pour aller au japon me pose quelques soucis. Je n'arrive pas à trouver d'hôtels pas trop chère proche de l'aéroport (terminal 3) (il y en a plein sur booking, mais dans les commentaires les gens disent que ce sont des arnaques, les adresses des hôtels sont erronés de façon volontaire).
Avez-vous connaissance d'un hôtel pratique pas trop chère proche de l'aéroport pour y aller à pied ?
Sinon je regardais pour prendre un AirBnb proche de la station Dongzhimen mais le premier transport avec le train express est à 6h00. J'ai lu qu'il fallait 30 minutes de trajet, cela me fait arriver à 6h30 pour un vol qui décolle à 8h20, j'ai l'impression que c'est trop court même si on voyage qu'avec des bagages cabine.
Qu'en pensez vous ?
Par contre, le vol de départ de 8h20 à pékin pour aller au japon me pose quelques soucis. Je n'arrive pas à trouver d'hôtels pas trop chère proche de l'aéroport (terminal 3) (il y en a plein sur booking, mais dans les commentaires les gens disent que ce sont des arnaques, les adresses des hôtels sont erronés de façon volontaire).
Avez-vous connaissance d'un hôtel pratique pas trop chère proche de l'aéroport pour y aller à pied ?
Sinon je regardais pour prendre un AirBnb proche de la station Dongzhimen mais le premier transport avec le train express est à 6h00. J'ai lu qu'il fallait 30 minutes de trajet, cela me fait arriver à 6h30 pour un vol qui décolle à 8h20, j'ai l'impression que c'est trop court même si on voyage qu'avec des bagages cabine.
Qu'en pensez vous ?
Je vais me retrouver un peu dans le même cas que toi, donc je vais suivre attentivement les réponses, même si j'ai une heure de +, mon vol décollant à 9h30.
J'ai lu sur le site d'Air China, que l'heure limite d'enregistrement pour les vols internationaux a Pékin est 1h, donc ça te laisse malgré tout une petite marge. Il faut que tu sois à l’'enregistrement au plus tard a 7h20.
Moi je logerai près de la Cité Interdite, avec 2 changements de métro. Donc même avec une heure de + que toi, il faudra pas que je me rate dans les couloirs du métro...
J'ai lu sur le site d'Air China, que l'heure limite d'enregistrement pour les vols internationaux a Pékin est 1h, donc ça te laisse malgré tout une petite marge. Il faut que tu sois à l’'enregistrement au plus tard a 7h20.
Moi je logerai près de la Cité Interdite, avec 2 changements de métro. Donc même avec une heure de + que toi, il faudra pas que je me rate dans les couloirs du métro...
@Orbi : perso ça me parait chaud pour mon cas. Je penche pour prendre un hôtel près de l'aéroport avec service de navette tôt le matin. Le soucis c'est d'en trouver un pas trop chère et sans arnaque, c'est pas évident.
Tous les hôtels près de l'aéroport sont chers.
Il y a un certain temps il y avait un Ibis. Très bon marché et avec navette. Faut vérifier car la dernière fois que j'ai fait des recherches il semblait fermé (peut-être temporairement?).
Je viens de regarder, visiblement il n'existe plus le Ibis près de l'aéroport.
Finalement, pour info, j'ai opté pour un appart de 50m2, à 100m de la station Dongzhimen avec réception H24... Je pense que c'est le meilleur compromis, je partirai à 6h00 et je serais direct sur la Navette Express, sans aucun changement. j'arriverai bien dans les temps si tout va bien. Le prix est le même qu'un Hotel plus petit plein centre, et je préfère avoir 2 changements qd j'ai du temps devant moi pour me rendre dans le centre, que le matin ou je dois partir rapidement.
Voilà ma stratégie :)
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6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!