Formalités aux États-Unis par voie terrestre... et plus de trois mois mais non consécutifs?
by Emmanuel31
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'envisage de me rendre aux Etats Unis au printemps prochain.
- Premiere chose, je souhaite arriver par voie terrestre du Mexique et rester un peu moins de trois mois, avant de partir au Canada. Pouvez vous me confirmer que je n'ai pas a demander d'ESTA, qu'il me suffira de remplir le formulaire I94W a la frontiere?
- Deuxieme chose, apres mon voyage au Canada j'aimerais revenir aux Etats Unis, pour un dernier mois environ, puis retourner en Europe par voie aerienne. Dans ce cas, est ce que j'aurai droit de remplir a nouveau le formulaire I94W? Je depasse en effet la duree de 90 jours, mais mes 4 mois au total ne sont pas consecutifs... Ca passe?
Merci d'avance 🙂, cordialement,
par voie terrestre pour entrer aux US: pas besoin d'ESTA.
le compteur ne se remet pas 'a zero' lorsque tu vas au Canada ou au Mexique apres un sejour aux US. donc si tu as fait 90 jours au canada+usa: tu ne pourras pas revenir aux US pour encore un mois😕
le compteur ne se remet pas 'a zero' lorsque tu vas au Canada ou au Mexique apres un sejour aux US. donc si tu as fait 90 jours au canada+usa: tu ne pourras pas revenir aux US pour encore un mois😕
"Le monde est un livre et ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu'une page." (Saint Augustin)
Salut,
tu avais déjà posé la question; il y a peu de temps😛 http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3457495;
BNYC a raison, le compteur n'est pas remi à zéro.. 90 jours pas plus
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tu avais déjà posé la question; il y a peu de temps😛 http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3457495;
BNYC a raison, le compteur n'est pas remi à zéro.. 90 jours pas plus
le spartiate
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
Il te faut demander un visa, cesse de nous faire répéter les mêmes réponses.
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Merci... Ce qui m'embete c'est que j'ai peur que le visa tourisme ne me soit pas accordé... dans la mesure ou j'aurai pas acheté mon billet retour pour la France, en theorie necessaire lors de la demande de visa (explication: je compte rentrer en Europe avec Air Berlin, le plus low cost mais on peut reserver que 5 mois avant utilisation...) du coup j'ai peur que le consulat ricain me refoule, d'ou ma recherche de solutions alternatives.
Ce que je comprends pas... c'est que dans ce cas, une fois qu'on a fait ses trois mois de decouverte des USA et meme si on est parti avant la date limite, on a carrement plus le droit d'y retourner? Pendant combien de temps?
Merci... Ce qui m'embete c'est que j'ai peur que le visa tourisme ne me soit pas accordé... du coup j'ai peur que le consulat ricain me refoule, d'ou ma recherche de solutions alternatives.
Et...tu veux qu'on te réponde quoi? Il te faut un visa, mais comme tu as peur tu ne fais pas de demande? Ça me semble illogique 😉 Si tu es admissible à avoir un visa de tourisme, tu l'auras, pas plus compliqué que ça. Seules les personnes n'ayant pas démontré suffisamment de liens avec leur pays d'origine les obligeant à y revenir (ce qui signifie qu'elles ne chercheront vraisemblablement pas à s'établir aux États-Unis illégalement) se voient refuser le visa. Si ce n'est pas ton cas, je ne vois pas pourquoi tu as peur de te voir refuser le visa.
Ce que je comprends pas... c'est que dans ce cas, une fois qu'on a fait ses trois mois de decouverte des USA et meme si on est parti avant la date limite, on a carrement plus le droit d'y retourner?
Bien sûr que tu peux revenir, pour autant que tu sois rentré dans ton pays de résidence! Tout séjour dans un pays adjacent (Canada, Mexique, Antilles, etc.) après une arrivée aux États-Unis n'est pas valide pour un retour en sol américain sous le programme d'exemption de visa, à moins que l'officier détermine le contraire, ce qui n'est pas garanti. Le site de voyage américain est très clair là-dessus.
Conditions d’admission sur le territoire américain dans le cadre du Programme d’Exemption de Visa : Etre ressortissant d’un pays bénéficiaire du Programme d’Exemption de Visa. Obtenir une autorisation électronique de voyage (ESTA) Présenter un passeport délivré par un des pays bénéficiaires du Programme d'Exemption de Visa, avec une validité de six mois au-delà du séjour envisagé Projeter un séjour touristique ou d'affaires ou prévoir une escale ou une correspondanceAdmission par Air ou par Mer :Etre en possession d'un billet Aller-Retour ou d'un billet assurant la continuité du voyage hors des Etats-Unis d'Amérique : les personnes dont la destination finale est le Mexique, le Canada, les Bermudes ou les Caraïbes doivent avoir le statut de résident permanent dans le pays concerné.Durée du séjour limitée à 90 jours maximum.
If for example, you are transiting on of these places on the way to a 6 month stay in Canada for a working holiday, you cannot use the VWP, as your total time in the U.S., Canada, Mexico and the adjacent islands will be over 90 days. In this case you should apply for a B-1/B-2 visitor visa, or a transit visa.
Donc, vite, le visa!
Et...tu veux qu'on te réponde quoi? Il te faut un visa, mais comme tu as peur tu ne fais pas de demande? Ça me semble illogique 😉 Si tu es admissible à avoir un visa de tourisme, tu l'auras, pas plus compliqué que ça. Seules les personnes n'ayant pas démontré suffisamment de liens avec leur pays d'origine les obligeant à y revenir (ce qui signifie qu'elles ne chercheront vraisemblablement pas à s'établir aux États-Unis illégalement) se voient refuser le visa. Si ce n'est pas ton cas, je ne vois pas pourquoi tu as peur de te voir refuser le visa.
Ce que je comprends pas... c'est que dans ce cas, une fois qu'on a fait ses trois mois de decouverte des USA et meme si on est parti avant la date limite, on a carrement plus le droit d'y retourner?
Bien sûr que tu peux revenir, pour autant que tu sois rentré dans ton pays de résidence! Tout séjour dans un pays adjacent (Canada, Mexique, Antilles, etc.) après une arrivée aux États-Unis n'est pas valide pour un retour en sol américain sous le programme d'exemption de visa, à moins que l'officier détermine le contraire, ce qui n'est pas garanti. Le site de voyage américain est très clair là-dessus.
Conditions d’admission sur le territoire américain dans le cadre du Programme d’Exemption de Visa : Etre ressortissant d’un pays bénéficiaire du Programme d’Exemption de Visa. Obtenir une autorisation électronique de voyage (ESTA) Présenter un passeport délivré par un des pays bénéficiaires du Programme d'Exemption de Visa, avec une validité de six mois au-delà du séjour envisagé Projeter un séjour touristique ou d'affaires ou prévoir une escale ou une correspondanceAdmission par Air ou par Mer :Etre en possession d'un billet Aller-Retour ou d'un billet assurant la continuité du voyage hors des Etats-Unis d'Amérique : les personnes dont la destination finale est le Mexique, le Canada, les Bermudes ou les Caraïbes doivent avoir le statut de résident permanent dans le pays concerné.Durée du séjour limitée à 90 jours maximum.
If for example, you are transiting on of these places on the way to a 6 month stay in Canada for a working holiday, you cannot use the VWP, as your total time in the U.S., Canada, Mexico and the adjacent islands will be over 90 days. In this case you should apply for a B-1/B-2 visitor visa, or a transit visa.
Donc, vite, le visa!
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je ne vois pas ou est le probleme . tu arrives du mexique et il te fait un visa . tu resort par le canada. apres tu reviens , tu revienns et tu peux ravoir trois mois. Si l officier te demande pourquoi, tu peux lui expliquer ton voyage et lui montrer ton billet.
ne te tracasse pas il est au courant quand tu es entre au us et quand tu es sorti? sinon demande avant de partir un visa b ils est valable pour 10 ans et tu peux avoir jusqu a six mois a chaque entree.
je ne vois pas ou est le probleme . tu arrives du mexique et il te fait un visa . tu resort par le canada. apres tu reviens , tu revienns et tu peux ravoir trois mois. Si l officier te demande pourquoi, tu peux lui expliquer ton voyage et lui montrer ton billet.
tss tss tss il ne faut pas raconter n'importe quoi 😇
c'est explique sur le site de l'ambassade et le site de l'immigration.
tss tss tss il ne faut pas raconter n'importe quoi 😇
c'est explique sur le site de l'ambassade et le site de l'immigration.
"Le monde est un livre et ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu'une page." (Saint Augustin)
je ne vois pas toujours pas ou est le probleme . on peut entrer plusieurs fois par an au etats unis . De nombreuses personnes le font pour le business sans jamais avoir le meme probleme sans avoir de visa de type b
Il est evident qu il est plus simple de demander un visa B1/b2 valable 10 ans . cela n a rien de difficile si on est une personne normale. Je suis tombe dernierement sur un idiot a philadelphie qui m a donne juste 7 jours malgre mon visa b1/b2 >Il est vrai que j ai pratiquement depuis deux ans, des visas en continus. je suis resorti le jour meme des etats unis c etait il y a deux mois et je viens de rentrer9 il y a un mois par la voie terrestre et apres que j ai explique le pourquoi, l officier m a redonne six mois .
ils ne sont pas tous cons , juste il ne faut pas presenter le profil de l immigrant illegal.
je ne vois pas toujours pas ou est le probleme . on peut entrer plusieurs fois par an au etats unis .
ils ne sont pas tous cons , juste il ne faut pas presenter le profil de l immigrant illegal.
Tu n'as pas compris, on parle de revenir aux États-Unis après un séjour dans un pays voisin (Canada, Mexiques, Caraïbes..) cela n'est pas permis sous le programme d'exemption de visa pour un séjour au-delà de 90 jours (les séjours dans les pays voisins sont COMPTABILISÉES!).
Tu n'as pas compris, on parle de revenir aux États-Unis après un séjour dans un pays voisin (Canada, Mexiques, Caraïbes..) cela n'est pas permis sous le programme d'exemption de visa pour un séjour au-delà de 90 jours (les séjours dans les pays voisins sont COMPTABILISÉES!).
"Aloha!Guide sur Hawaii.
Nouveau! Visitez notre blogue "Vivre au Mexique". Aventures et conseils sur la région de Riviera Maya
ou trouves tu cette information pour les transit par voie terrestre. c est different en avion.
j ai de tres nonbreux ami canadien qui possede un bateau ou un appartement ou simplement qui viennent passer l hiver ici au mexique en transitant en voiture par les etats unis. Ils n ont aucun probleme pour retourner a la fin du printemps. je ne pense pas qu ils ont tous un visa b2> juste il suffit de rendre son i 94.
j ai de tres nonbreux ami canadien qui possede un bateau ou un appartement ou simplement qui viennent passer l hiver ici au mexique en transitant en voiture par les etats unis. Ils n ont aucun probleme pour retourner a la fin du printemps. je ne pense pas qu ils ont tous un visa b2> juste il suffit de rendre son i 94.
j ai de tres nonbreux ami canadien qui possede un bateau ou un appartement ou simplement qui viennent passer l hiver ici au mexique en transitant en voiture par les etats unis. Ils n ont aucun probleme pour retourner a la fin du printemps.
je ne pense pas qu ils ont tous un visa b2> juste il suffit de rendre son i 94.
Les Canadiens n'ont jamais besoin de Visa et ils n'ont pas de I94. Il n'y a pas de programme d'exemption de visa pour nous, puisque nous pouvons séjourner 1 an sans formalités particulières. On parle des Européens qui voyagent sous le WVP...il faut suivre la discussion un peu.
Les Canadiens n'ont jamais besoin de Visa et ils n'ont pas de I94. Il n'y a pas de programme d'exemption de visa pour nous, puisque nous pouvons séjourner 1 an sans formalités particulières. On parle des Européens qui voyagent sous le WVP...il faut suivre la discussion un peu.
"Aloha!Guide sur Hawaii.
Nouveau! Visitez notre blogue "Vivre au Mexique". Aventures et conseils sur la région de Riviera Maya
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Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel






