J'aimerai aller jusqu'à Diyarbakir en train, au départ d'Istambul.
Sur le site des chemins de fer turques, voir le lien suivant, http://www.tcdd.gov.tr/tcdding/trenguney_ing.htm Ils indiquent un prix de 31, 50 YTL, ce qui n'est vraiment pas cher pour un voyage d'un jour et demi et autant de kilomètres. Ce prix est-il exacte? Sinon, quels solutions se présentent? Pour quel prix?
Sinon, que pensez vous de ce voyage? traverser toute la Turquie! Il devrait y avoir de superbes paysages!?
Aussi, la situation de cette région est très tendues politiquement et autre. Si je vais jusqu'à Diyarbakir, il y a des risques? Pour les touristes?
Une fois labas, les hotels sont-ils facilement accessibles?
Une grand merci pour vos réponses. J'oublies surement des questions. Toutes informations et témoignage m'interesse.
Alors j'ai longe en minibus aujourd'hui meme la voie que tu prendrais : c'est dans le desert complet...
C'est bon marche car tres lent, mais meme l'avion ne serait pas tres chers tu sais.
A mon avis pas de risque particulier ; je n'y suis pas alle l'autre jour par paresse, mais je suis alle a Elazig et a Mardin, Diyarbakir c'est entre les deux 😏. Les gamins sont parait-il collants.
Ha tu es labas pour l'instant, j'espere que tout ce passe bien! Tu es dans la région que je désire tant :p la chance! Il fait pas trop chaud? (pour le climat, je n'sais pas trop quand y aller)
Pour l'hotel, pas de risque particulier a par de ne pas en trouver... Il y en a beaucoup? On peut se débrouiller sans parler turc labas?
Sinon, je sais que l'avion ne serait pas trop cher, mais traverser la Turquie en train, ca doit etre beau et c'est original, meme si ca prend du temps, ca me plaira beaucoup je pense.
(Oui, pour ce qui est des enfants, c'est comme partout...)
il y a enormement d'hotels en Turquie et absolument aucun risque de ne pas en trouver ; compte entre 25 et 60 Ytl. La moitiee de Diyarbakir doit bien parler allemand de toutes facons 😏...
Faut vraiment que ce soit ton trip pour le faire en train, hein.... Moi il faudrait me payer pour. Franchement le paysage ne sera pas formidable, et tu le verrais aussi en bus.
Et au fait, pourquoi Diyarbakir ?
Ok pour les hotels, pour le train, t'as peut être raison, il y a le bus, mais bon! c'est rien, c'est mon trip, quand j'vois des films turcs, les gens dans les vieux train presques pourris, avec un vieux qui joue du saz et une biquette entre deux wagons lol meme si je pense que les trains sont un peu plus modernes. Me fondre dans la population, c'est ce que je veux "vivre", loin du tourisme...
Diyarbakir parce que mon père est originaire de la région de Mardin Midyat (il est syriaque orthodoxe) et que a chaque fois que je vois cette région je tombe amoureux, j'aime les traditions, la tête des gens, les danses, la nourriture, le plein air, le petit village, ..., et puis c'est une région pleine d'histoire, il y a les araméens, les arméniens les kurdes et les turcs, les montagnes et leurs troupeaux de chevres, et j'aime tout ca (Enfin il faut pas chercher a comprendre, j'y vois pas de raisons intérieures non plus)
Tu as été visiter des lieux Chrétiens labas? Tu en penses quoi? Ils sont encore assez actifs? Et les gens te regardent pas de travers?
Bon, le train tu en reviendras... Et tu sais, si tu prends a Ankara un bus pour Diyarbakir, tu ne vas pas etre noye dans le flot des touristes 😏... Blague a part, les Turcs prennent le bus ; mais tu nous raconteras...
Ah, ta motivation est interessante... Tu peux aller a Mardin alors plutot. Je sais bien qu'il y a des monasteres dans ce coin, autour de Mardin et Mydiat, mais je ne suis pas alle les voir, je ne peux t'en parler.
Bonjour Tatra...
Je suis en train de planifier la suite de mon periple en Turquie. et j'etais en train de me decider pour le train... pourquoi dis tu que ca ne vaut pas le coup? Pour ma part je trouve le bus tres ınconfortable pour les longs voyages, donc j'aimerais savoir pourquoi le train te semble inaproprie? Parce que trop lent?
Tu dis que les turcs prennent le bus, mais s'ıl y a autant de trains en Turquie, c'est qu'il y a bien quelqu'un pour les utiliser non?
Merci par avance pour tes reponses.
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
il y a proportionnellement tres peu de trains en Turquie : as-tu vu Sirkeci ou Haydarpasha ? De toute petites gares pour une si grande ville. Et je ne parle pas de la gare de Kars que je te laisse le plaisir de decouvrir...
Conpare avec l'otogar de n'importe quelle ville consequente...
ils sont lents, peu ponctuels ; la plupart des gens prennent le bus... Mais fais comme tu veux ; de toutes facons tu n'iras pas a la Mer Noire en train...
Effectivement. Je viens d'en faire l'experience ici a Kayseri ou je voulais prendre le train pour Mardin... J'ai laisse tomber, mais je ne desespere pas de le prendre au moins une fois avant de ressortir de Turquie. Par exemple Diyarbakir Van. La lenteur et la ponctualite, j'ai l'habitude avec la Serbie. Mais c'est vrai qu'ils ne sont pas tres nombreux en Turquie tout compte fait.
Au plaisir.
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
Un train pour Mardin ? 🤪
Je ne sais meme pas s'il y a une voie de chemin de fer.... Diyarbakir - Mardin c'est en bus, sans discussion...
Tu risques d'attendre a Diyardakir 3 ou 4 heures un train pour Van venant d'istanbul ; m'enfin si tu y tiens.... 🙂
Et je croyais que tu voulais aller vers la Mer noire.... Diyarbakir c'est pas tres maritime...
Et alors? Est-ce une raison pour ne pas vérifier par moi-même? Si l'on suit ton raisonnement, on irait nulle part, suffirait d'écouter les récits des autres 😉
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
Tatra, je crois que tu as tendance à bien aimer montrer que tu connais parfaitement la Turquie, et à dire "je te l'avais bien dit".... Un peu de modestie, ça fait pas de mal. Laisse les autres faire leurs propres expériences, pas besoin du petit sourire en coin quand l'autre admet que tu avais raison.
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
Non non je ne me fâche pas rassure toi 😛 Il est vrai qu'en relisant mon message, je me dis que ça manquait de petits bonhommes souriants.
J'apprécie tes conseils, mais c'est vrai que parfois tu es fier, et tu aimes bien montrer que tu as raison. Mais je ne suis pas fâchée 🙂 Il m'en faut vraiment beaucoup pour ça, surtout par écran interposé 😎
Voilà cette fois j'ai mis plein de bonhommes, pour montrer ma bonne humeur... Van est magnifique, j'ai fait une 'tite balade dans la montagne environnante ce matin. Froide la montagne, surtout avec le vent, mais le paysage en vaut le coup. Pis j'aime bien le froid 😛 En plus je viens de finir de tricoter mes gants, alors j'ai pu les tester en réel 😄 Conclusion: il est temps que je me mette au bonnet... Celui que j'avais est perdu dans un camion grec 😕
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
Bjr, je suis à la recherche d'un moyen de transport pr aller d'Istanbul à diyarbakir. Le train est il toujours inapproprié ? J'aimerais bien voir ce qu'est la fête de noruz, on m'a dit qu'elle été célébrée dans cette région
Yes effectivement c'est le nouvel an kurde c'est d'ailleurs pr ca que je souhaite y aller, j'avais un peu de temps et je voulais prendre le train mais quand j'ai lu les reponses de tout le monde dans la discussion, au final tout le monde déconseille...
alors que c'était ma premiere option, j'avais envie de prendre le temps....
Une fois à Istanbul, j'envisage de me rendre jusqu'à Tbilissi soit par bus ou par train. Pensez-vous que c sera possible? Si oui comment doit-on s'y prendre?…
Voyager en train › Turquie / Bulgarie / France › Paris - Île de France · 4 replies
Je prévois d'aller passer quelques jours à Istanbul prochainement et j'aimerais bien éviter l'avion. Est-ce que quelqu'un connaît d'autres moyens de s'y rendre…
Sur le départ pour 15 jours en Turquie, je souhaite aller d'Istanbul à Ankara par le train, soit couchette ou TGV s’il est déjà en service??? Mais voilà,…
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us.
I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com.
Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend?
Are the tickets changeable?
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas).
This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima.
I’m looking for suggestions and advice:
Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips...
Do you think it’s possible to do something like this:
5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku)
3 nights in Kyoto
2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo?
2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy...
Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train.
Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question:
Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.