Itinéraire en Argentine et choix de la période
by Miesele
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
En pleine préparation de notre prochain voyage dont l'itinéraire sera le suivant :
Buenos Aires - Iguazu - Salta - San Carlos de Bariloche - El Calafate - Trelew - retour B.A.
nous avons le choix entre octobre - novembre - décembre.
Quel mois choisir en privilégiant bien sûr la météo mais aussi la faune et la flore.
Merci d'avance pour vos conseils 😎
Hello, a mon avis décembre c'est le mieux niveau meteo, c'est comme partir en vacances en juin en France.
7 ans en Argentine / 13 ans au Chili.
Pour votre séjour a Santiago :
https://voyageforum.com/forum/location-superbe-appartement-en-plein-coeur-santiago-d10759186/
Bonjour,
Nous sommes allés a Iguazu et El calfate aux vacances de toussaint 2013 : donc fin octobre, début novembre : a Iguazu : une journée très ensoleillée, une journée pluvieuse .. et a El calafate : un temps magnifique, nous avons pu être souvent en t-shirt manches longues sans pull, sans polaire. un vrai bonheur !! c était le début du printemps .. je pense qu à partir de novembre, ça commence a être vraiment agréable.
concernant BA : il faisait plutot bon et doux.
Tu as prévu ton itinéraire sur combien de temps ?
Dans tous les cas c est un très bon choix, l argentine c est magnifique !!!
Nous sommes allés a Iguazu et El calfate aux vacances de toussaint 2013 : donc fin octobre, début novembre : a Iguazu : une journée très ensoleillée, une journée pluvieuse .. et a El calafate : un temps magnifique, nous avons pu être souvent en t-shirt manches longues sans pull, sans polaire. un vrai bonheur !! c était le début du printemps .. je pense qu à partir de novembre, ça commence a être vraiment agréable.
concernant BA : il faisait plutot bon et doux.
Tu as prévu ton itinéraire sur combien de temps ?
Dans tous les cas c est un très bon choix, l argentine c est magnifique !!!
Elodie
Bonjour à tous !
Moi je vote pour le mois de Novembre. Ca toujours été un mois que j'adore ! Les jacaranda en fleurs dans les rues de Buenos Aires !
A bientot !
Petit Hergé ! www.petitherge.com
Moi je vote pour le mois de Novembre. Ca toujours été un mois que j'adore ! Les jacaranda en fleurs dans les rues de Buenos Aires !
A bientot !
Petit Hergé ! www.petitherge.com
Tout sur l Argentine, et completé 24h/24h depuis le 29 oct 2005
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Bonjour!
Combien de temps restez-vous? Quels moyens de transport allez-vous privilégier? En octobre et novembre c'est une bonne époque pour voir les baleines et les pingouins à Valdès, en décembre les baleines s'en vont, la nature est bien réglée. Et en septembre et août, le top, vous n'êtes pas là... Dans le Nord oeste pas de problèmes de climat jusqu'à fin décembre (avec des variations annuelles légères). En Patagonie des Lacs en revanche, c'est un peu la bouteille à l'encre: pour te donner une idée en décembre 2012 nous avons eu 22 jours de pluie consécutifs à Bariloche!!! Je les ai comptés crois-moi c' est long! Heureusement que j'avais beaucoup de boulot chez moi. Cet année (2013) il n'a pas fait mauvais, on pouvait faire les activités de plein air qu'on voulait.Quant au grand Sud...Là aussi...il y a une part de chance, le printemps n'est pas toujours la saison recommandable mais, bon, on y va quand on est là... A vista de naz je suis plutôt option Hergé mais avec une semaine à cheval sur octobre.
Donne-nous plus de précisions SVP Hasta luego.
Combien de temps restez-vous? Quels moyens de transport allez-vous privilégier? En octobre et novembre c'est une bonne époque pour voir les baleines et les pingouins à Valdès, en décembre les baleines s'en vont, la nature est bien réglée. Et en septembre et août, le top, vous n'êtes pas là... Dans le Nord oeste pas de problèmes de climat jusqu'à fin décembre (avec des variations annuelles légères). En Patagonie des Lacs en revanche, c'est un peu la bouteille à l'encre: pour te donner une idée en décembre 2012 nous avons eu 22 jours de pluie consécutifs à Bariloche!!! Je les ai comptés crois-moi c' est long! Heureusement que j'avais beaucoup de boulot chez moi. Cet année (2013) il n'a pas fait mauvais, on pouvait faire les activités de plein air qu'on voulait.Quant au grand Sud...Là aussi...il y a une part de chance, le printemps n'est pas toujours la saison recommandable mais, bon, on y va quand on est là... A vista de naz je suis plutôt option Hergé mais avec une semaine à cheval sur octobre.
Donne-nous plus de précisions SVP Hasta luego.
blondin
...en décembre les baleines s'en vont
Pas très loin puisqu'elles commencent à faire leur apparition dans les Fjords chiliens (expeditions au depart de Punta Arenas).
En synthèse, du 15/10 au 15/12 c'est tout bon, après la météo est imprévisible, c'est une question de chance !
Pas très loin puisqu'elles commencent à faire leur apparition dans les Fjords chiliens (expeditions au depart de Punta Arenas).
En synthèse, du 15/10 au 15/12 c'est tout bon, après la météo est imprévisible, c'est une question de chance !
7 ans en Argentine / 13 ans au Chili.
Pour votre séjour a Santiago :
https://voyageforum.com/forum/location-superbe-appartement-en-plein-coeur-santiago-d10759186/
Soyouz, les baleines qu'elles aillent au Chili, en Antarctique ou sur mars ça n'est pas le problème: de Valdès, en décembre, elles s'en vont! On ne les voit plus! 😉
Ciao ballenitas, hasta junio del ano que viene, ciao....😏😏
blondin
Bonjour et merci à vous tous pour vos réponses 😉
Notre décision est prise, nous partons de mi-octobre à fin novembre. Vol Francfort - Iguazu via Sao Paulo, puis vol Iguazu - Salta. A Salta nous aurons un camper 4x4 et prévoyons de descendre jusqu'à El Calafate en longeant la cordillère puis de remonter jusqu'à B.A. par la péninsule de Valdes. Vu notre timing nous sommes obligés de zapper Ushuaia, ce sera pour un autre voyage (Chili + Sud Bolivie).
Dès que notre projet d'itinéraire sera fait, je ne manquerai pas de le poster sur ce forum pour avoir vos conseils 😎 A bientôt ! Miesele
Notre décision est prise, nous partons de mi-octobre à fin novembre. Vol Francfort - Iguazu via Sao Paulo, puis vol Iguazu - Salta. A Salta nous aurons un camper 4x4 et prévoyons de descendre jusqu'à El Calafate en longeant la cordillère puis de remonter jusqu'à B.A. par la péninsule de Valdes. Vu notre timing nous sommes obligés de zapper Ushuaia, ce sera pour un autre voyage (Chili + Sud Bolivie).
Dès que notre projet d'itinéraire sera fait, je ne manquerai pas de le poster sur ce forum pour avoir vos conseils 😎 A bientôt ! Miesele
Bonjour Miesele !
Salta - El Calafate - Valdes - Buenos Aires par la route c'est plus de 9.500 km ! Une sorte de croisière jaune Paris - Pekin ! et pas toujours sur des routes bitumées ... Tu as combien de mois pour faire ce périple ?
A bientot !
Herge ! www.petitherge.com
Salta - El Calafate - Valdes - Buenos Aires par la route c'est plus de 9.500 km ! Une sorte de croisière jaune Paris - Pekin ! et pas toujours sur des routes bitumées ... Tu as combien de mois pour faire ce périple ?
A bientot !
Herge ! www.petitherge.com
Tout sur l Argentine, et completé 24h/24h depuis le 29 oct 2005
http://www.petitherge.com/
Bonjour,
Cela va vous faire un sacré beau trajet à faire...
Cela va vous faire un sacré beau trajet à faire...
bien joli itinéraire !! moi ça ne me parait pas non plus hallucinant sur 1 mois et demi .. ou comptons 1 mois et 1 semaine si vous comptez passer quelques jours a Iguazu.
il y aura surement des journées de route complete pour avancer un peu .. mais ça me parait jouable. 🙂
il y aura surement des journées de route complete pour avancer un peu .. mais ça me parait jouable. 🙂
Elodie
Bonjour Herge
Pourquoi es-tu si négatif 😠
Sur 5 semaines cela fait env. 270 km par jour, je ne pense pas que les pistes d'Argentine soient pire que celles en
Afrique 😉
Bonjour Elodie
Ton message me rassure, merci 😎
A partir de Salta où nous récupérons le camping-car nous avons 36 jours pour réaliser l'itinéraire que nous prévoyons.
Je pense qu'avec cette formule (déjà testée en Australie-Namibie-Botswana-Swaziland-Afrique du Sud) nous aurons plus de liberté pour découvrir ce pays immense ; effectivement sur 5 semaines il y aura quelques longues journées de route.
Au fur et à mesure que j'aurai établi l'itinéraire je ne manquerai pas de faire part de mes interrogations sur ce forum.
Miesele
Bonjour Madikera
Super ton site, bravo et merci 😎
A+ pour d'autres questions
Miesele
En un mois et demi c'est jouable
J'ai fait Buenos Aires - Iguazu - Salta - Mendoza - Bariloche - El Calafate - Ushuaia - Valdes en 2 mois en effectuant tous les trajets en bus (surtout bus de nuit) sauf Rio Gallegos - Puerto Madryn effectué en ... auto-stop ;-)
il n'est nulle autre véritable richesse que les relations humaines
Bonjour Antoine et merci pour ta réponse
Vu notre timing il nous faut zapper Ushuaia prévu lors d'un autre voyage : Chili-Sud Bolivie
Miesele
Bonjour,
Je ne suis pas negatif ! Je suis lucide, ca fait 20 ans que je parcours le pays en large et en travers. Je ne comprend pas, vous n'etes pas venu ici pour amasser des km, vous etes venu ici pour visiter le pays. Comment voulez vous à la fois visiter les endroits ou vous arrivez et a la fois passer au moins une demie journée de route par jour dans votre vehicule ? Maintenant chacun a sa maniere de voyager, mais il m'arrive de m'arreter 2 ou 3 jours au meme endroit sans faire de km. Pour ce qui est des routes en terre, je ne depasse jamais 150 a 200 km de route en terre par jour. Parce que je m'arrete je visite, je fais des photos. Bref, chacun a sa maniere. Ce que vous faites, je ne le ferai pas, parce que si j'entreprends un voyage c'est pour connaitre. Les touristes pensent toujours : Plus de km = mieux ! Bref, je ne comprends pas ! Mais si c'est plus de km, c'est que tu t'arretes moins et que tu visites moins !
A bientot !
Herge ! www.petitherge.com
Je ne suis pas negatif ! Je suis lucide, ca fait 20 ans que je parcours le pays en large et en travers. Je ne comprend pas, vous n'etes pas venu ici pour amasser des km, vous etes venu ici pour visiter le pays. Comment voulez vous à la fois visiter les endroits ou vous arrivez et a la fois passer au moins une demie journée de route par jour dans votre vehicule ? Maintenant chacun a sa maniere de voyager, mais il m'arrive de m'arreter 2 ou 3 jours au meme endroit sans faire de km. Pour ce qui est des routes en terre, je ne depasse jamais 150 a 200 km de route en terre par jour. Parce que je m'arrete je visite, je fais des photos. Bref, chacun a sa maniere. Ce que vous faites, je ne le ferai pas, parce que si j'entreprends un voyage c'est pour connaitre. Les touristes pensent toujours : Plus de km = mieux ! Bref, je ne comprends pas ! Mais si c'est plus de km, c'est que tu t'arretes moins et que tu visites moins !
A bientot !
Herge ! www.petitherge.com
Tout sur l Argentine, et completé 24h/24h depuis le 29 oct 2005
http://www.petitherge.com/
Selon la durée des séjours il peut être tout à fait compatible de "faire des km" et prendre son temps à chaque étape
Par exemple sur mon itinéraire évoqué ci dessus : Buenos Aires - Iguazu - Salta (la région de Cafayate à Humahuaca) - San Agustin (Talampaya et Ischigualasto) - Mendoza - Bariloche - El Calafate et El Chalten - Ushuaia - Valdes
En 2 mois j'ai pu rester de 4 à 7 jours à chaque étape (sauf Iguazu 2 jours + un jour à San Ignacio)
il n'est nulle autre véritable richesse que les relations humaines
Bonjour,
Avoir un véhicule va vous permettre de vous adapter et de voir les/vos possibles sur place...
Comme vous envisagez un autre voyage plus au sud, vous pouvez envisager de positionner El CHalten/El Calafate avec ce voyage. Lorsque vous serez vers Bariloche, vous pouvez rejoindre la PDValdés... Bref, les décisions finales se feront pdt le voyage...
Merci pour votre commentaire sur notre site. Nous sommes toujours heureux qu'il puisse aider d'autres voyageurs...
Avoir un véhicule va vous permettre de vous adapter et de voir les/vos possibles sur place...
Comme vous envisagez un autre voyage plus au sud, vous pouvez envisager de positionner El CHalten/El Calafate avec ce voyage. Lorsque vous serez vers Bariloche, vous pouvez rejoindre la PDValdés... Bref, les décisions finales se feront pdt le voyage...
Merci pour votre commentaire sur notre site. Nous sommes toujours heureux qu'il puisse aider d'autres voyageurs...
Bonsoir.
Ton 4x4 camper, tu peux nous dire la marque s'il te plaît?
ça m'intéresse parce qu'ici, le camping-car est très peu utilisé, on n'en voit pas souvent.
Tu connais déjà le porteur ?, en général le peu que je connais utilisent des porteurs Toyota hi-lux ou Ford 100 ou peut-être Ranger. Ce sont des modèles éprouvés mais parfois un peu anciens ce qui influe sur la vitesse (mais ça on s'en fiche) et aussi sur la consommation avec le poids de la caisse.
Si c'est un autre modèle, type européen, passe_nous l'info STP. De temps à autre on en voit mais c'est rare, ce sont souvent des gens qui ont fait venir leur propre véhicule.
Merci d'avance
blondin
Bonjour Herge
Désolée pour mon retard à te répondre j'avais "laissé de côté" notre projet de voyage en Argentine car 1001 choses à régler.
Je vais pouvoir durant les 4 prochains mois "m'atteler" à étoffer notre itinéraire.
Je comprends parfaitement ton point de vue quant à notre périple marathon mais vois-tu ce sera notre seul voyage en Argentine et on a envie de s'en prendre plein les mirettes.
Avec la liberté que nous offre le camper, s'il nous prend l'envie de démarrer la journée avec le lever du soleil on le fera, pas besoin d'attendre l'heure du service du ptitdéj ni celui du départ du bus. Oh combien de voyageurs perdent ce temps si précieux en vacances au restau, à attendre le bus, etc...
Nous avancerons en fonction de nos coups de cœur du moment, de la météo aussi, et si nous n'avons pas le temps de faire la boucle que nous prévoyons cela ne fait rien, on rebroussera chemin et on ira dans le sud argentin lors d'un voyage au Chili.
A bientôt sur le forum 😉
Miesele
Bonjour Antoine et merci (tardif) pour ton message 😉
Combien de temps me conseilles-tu de consacrer au parc Talampaya et celui d'Ischigualasto.
Pour nous pas question de faire partie d'un convoi organisé, peut-on trouver un guide à l'entrée du parc pour rando et tour à vélo ou bien faut-il organiser cela depuis Villa Union ?
A Mendoza as-tu fait une incursion dans le parc de l'Aconcagua ?
Au plaisir de te lire,
Miesele
Bonjour Marc
Je réponds enfin à ton message, toutes mes excuses 😉
Pour le 4x4 camper il s'agit du nouveau Volkswagen Amarok 140 CV 2.0 litres.
Quelques km au compteur car nous sommes les premiers à l'utiliser 😎
Dans 4 mois c'est le départ 🙂 encore beaucoup de préparation pour organiser le périple !
A bientôt sur le forum,
Miesele
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So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?






