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Bonjour a tous
J'ai réservé une voiture chez Avis Anchorage et j'envisage d'aller à Dawson City par la Top of the world en ais-je le droit ?
Merci pour vos réponses.
Location de voiture en Alaska
by Miko01
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Sûrement que le locateur que vous avez choisi pourra vous le dire.... et même vous l'écrire.
La vie est trop belle pour être petite.
Bonjour,
Si votre question concerne le passage de la frontière Canadienne, pas de problème.
Par contre les loueurs n'autorisent pas la plupart du temps les "gravels roads" c'est à dire les routes non revêtues.
Et la Taylor Highway, côté Alaska est encore en partie une "gravel road". La Top of the world aussi côté Yukon.
Ce sujet est récurrent sur ce forum....
Comme vous l'a dit Jack dps, renseignez vous auprès de votre loueur.
...et une recherche rapide chez mon ami Google répond à votre question, en plus de la réponse que vous aurez de avis:
The standard Avis rental contract prohibits travel on unpaved roads..Renters may drive US vehicles into Canada, with no restrictions on provinces.Rental counter must be notified at the time of rental that you plan to drive the vehicle into Canada so we may issue a Canadian Non-Resident Insurance Card (this card is provided at no cost andwill be required to cross the border).One-way rentals are not permitted.
The standard Avis rental contract prohibits travel on unpaved roads..Renters may drive US vehicles into Canada, with no restrictions on provinces.Rental counter must be notified at the time of rental that you plan to drive the vehicle into Canada so we may issue a Canadian Non-Resident Insurance Card (this card is provided at no cost andwill be required to cross the border).One-way rentals are not permitted.
La vie est trop belle pour être petite.
Bonjour,
Pourtant je vois sur ce forum que beaucoup l'ont empruntée.
Oui, et parmi eux certains ne se sont même pas posé la question. D'autres sont passés outre...
Donc vous faites comme vous voulez, mais il faut assumer. Pour être clair : le loueur s'en fout de savoir où vous allez. Il se protège avec un contrat très restrictif. En cas de pépin tous les frais quelle qu'en soit la cause seront à votre charge. Et si ce pépin arrive par exemple du côté de Chicken (Taylor Highway) rien que le dépannage-remorquage coûtera les deux bras. On applique le contrat d'abord, on négocie ensuite, si on peut...
Il ya en effet Go North, implanté à Fairbanks, Anchorage et Witehorse, et aussi Arctic-outfitters, implanté à Fairbanks. Pour les deux, attention aux prix : ils sont annoncés HT et il y a des "options" obligatoires, comme l'assurance CDW.
Pourtant je vois sur ce forum que beaucoup l'ont empruntée.
Oui, et parmi eux certains ne se sont même pas posé la question. D'autres sont passés outre...
Donc vous faites comme vous voulez, mais il faut assumer. Pour être clair : le loueur s'en fout de savoir où vous allez. Il se protège avec un contrat très restrictif. En cas de pépin tous les frais quelle qu'en soit la cause seront à votre charge. Et si ce pépin arrive par exemple du côté de Chicken (Taylor Highway) rien que le dépannage-remorquage coûtera les deux bras. On applique le contrat d'abord, on négocie ensuite, si on peut...
Il ya en effet Go North, implanté à Fairbanks, Anchorage et Witehorse, et aussi Arctic-outfitters, implanté à Fairbanks. Pour les deux, attention aux prix : ils sont annoncés HT et il y a des "options" obligatoires, comme l'assurance CDW.
pas vu pas pris
pris pendu....
Par exemple, vous n'avez pas le droit de faire la piste de Monument Valley mais présente -t-elle un gros risque d'accident, de casse?? de même que le Burr trail, la Cottonwood Canyon Road.....
alors à vous de mesurez les risques Mais je pense qu'il serait dommage de ne pas prendre un minimum de risques...
Par exemple, vous n'avez pas le droit de faire la piste de Monument Valley mais présente -t-elle un gros risque d'accident, de casse?? de même que le Burr trail, la Cottonwood Canyon Road.....
alors à vous de mesurez les risques Mais je pense qu'il serait dommage de ne pas prendre un minimum de risques...
J.P.OLIVIER
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Bonjour,
pas vu pas pris pris pendu..
Ce n'est pas tout à fait ça. Je me répète : vu, vous le serez, et le loueur peut le savoir. Tant qu'il ne vous arrive rien...il n'y a aucun problème et au retour le loueur ne vous reprochera rien, même si vous avez fait toutes les gravels roads d'Alaska et du Yukon !
. vous n'avez pas le droit de faire la piste de Monument Valley mais présente -t-elle un gros risque d'accident, de casse?? de même que le Burr trail, la Cottonwood Canyon Road.....
Je ne connais pas ces pistes...mais assez bien celles d'Alaska.... Et l'appréciation du "gros risque" est quelquechose de très subjectif. Mais le problème n'est pas là. Il est que vous avez un contrat qui engage deux parties. Si vous ne le respectez pas vous devez accepter d'en assumer les conséquences. Car personne ne vous oblige à souscrire à ce contrat.
alors à vous de mesurez les risques Mais je pense qu'il serait dommage de ne pas prendre un minimum de risques...
Oui, bien sur, mais permettez moi de citer un autre adage : "les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs"
pas vu pas pris pris pendu..
Ce n'est pas tout à fait ça. Je me répète : vu, vous le serez, et le loueur peut le savoir. Tant qu'il ne vous arrive rien...il n'y a aucun problème et au retour le loueur ne vous reprochera rien, même si vous avez fait toutes les gravels roads d'Alaska et du Yukon !
. vous n'avez pas le droit de faire la piste de Monument Valley mais présente -t-elle un gros risque d'accident, de casse?? de même que le Burr trail, la Cottonwood Canyon Road.....
Je ne connais pas ces pistes...mais assez bien celles d'Alaska.... Et l'appréciation du "gros risque" est quelquechose de très subjectif. Mais le problème n'est pas là. Il est que vous avez un contrat qui engage deux parties. Si vous ne le respectez pas vous devez accepter d'en assumer les conséquences. Car personne ne vous oblige à souscrire à ce contrat.
alors à vous de mesurez les risques Mais je pense qu'il serait dommage de ne pas prendre un minimum de risques...
Oui, bien sur, mais permettez moi de citer un autre adage : "les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs"
Bonjour,
avec des voitures non 4X4
4X4 ou non, la question n'est pas là. Ces pistes se parcourent couramment avec des véhicules "ordinaires".
en ont-ils le droit ?
Pour les autorités OUI. Il ne s'agit pas de restrictions réglementaires. Il s'agit d'un contrat privé qui engage les parties. Quand on conclut un contrat c'est qu'on en accepte (certes, parfois à contre-coeur...) les conditions. Ou alors on ne conclut pas.
Et quel est leur loueur ?
Je ne sais pas. Encore moins ce qui est écrit dans leur contrat ! Et de toutes façons cela ne vous avancerait à rien de le savoir. Sauf bien entendu si vous envisagez d'aller avec eux....
avec des voitures non 4X4
4X4 ou non, la question n'est pas là. Ces pistes se parcourent couramment avec des véhicules "ordinaires".
en ont-ils le droit ?
Pour les autorités OUI. Il ne s'agit pas de restrictions réglementaires. Il s'agit d'un contrat privé qui engage les parties. Quand on conclut un contrat c'est qu'on en accepte (certes, parfois à contre-coeur...) les conditions. Ou alors on ne conclut pas.
Et quel est leur loueur ?
Je ne sais pas. Encore moins ce qui est écrit dans leur contrat ! Et de toutes façons cela ne vous avancerait à rien de le savoir. Sauf bien entendu si vous envisagez d'aller avec eux....
Oui, bien sur, mais permettez moi de citer un autre adage :
"les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs"
Vous avez entièrement raison. . Devant aller faire un trip en Alaska cet été, je vais d'ailleurs emprunter la Denali Hwy....
Vous avez entièrement raison. . Devant aller faire un trip en Alaska cet été, je vais d'ailleurs emprunter la Denali Hwy....
J.P.OLIVIER
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de toute façon, si l'on désire parcourir ces pistes, on ne peut QUE ne pas respecter le contrat de location et de ce fait d'en assumer les risques.
J.P.OLIVIER
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si l'on désire parcourir ces pistes, on ne peut QUE ne pas respecter le contrat de location
Inexact. On peut louer auprès d'un loueur qui le permet expressément, l'un de ceux (ou un autre) qui vous ont été indiqués par Etrefal et moi-même. C'est plus cher, et c'est comme l'assurance : ça ne coûte cher qu'avant l'accident ! Ou encore avoir la chance de disposer d'un véhicule prêté par un ami...
La Denali Highway devrait vous enchanter : nous l'avons parcourue une douzaine de fois, et c'est toujours un enchantement. Je vous y souhaite un beau parcours.
Inexact. On peut louer auprès d'un loueur qui le permet expressément, l'un de ceux (ou un autre) qui vous ont été indiqués par Etrefal et moi-même. C'est plus cher, et c'est comme l'assurance : ça ne coûte cher qu'avant l'accident ! Ou encore avoir la chance de disposer d'un véhicule prêté par un ami...
La Denali Highway devrait vous enchanter : nous l'avons parcourue une douzaine de fois, et c'est toujours un enchantement. Je vous y souhaite un beau parcours.
Coté Alaska cette route se nomme Taylor Highway. C'est côté Yukon qu'elle s'appelle Top of the World.
Lorsque nous l'avons empruntée pour la première fois (en 1992...) elle était en gravier sur toute sa longueur.
La partie la plus infernale était le début, depuis Tok jusqu'à quelques dizaines de miles avant Chicken.
Cette partie est à présent revêtue.
Elle ne présente aucune difficulté réelle. Il y a bien entendu des montées, mais jamais très longues, et bien que "Top of the World", c'est loin d'être la haute montagne !
les "inconvénients" en sont :
- les épaulements en gravier sont souvent, comme sur toutes ces pistes, plutôt instables. A éviter le plus possible.
- par beau temps la poussière soulevée par les autres véhicules peut s'avérer très pénible.
- les projections de graviers sur le pare brise et les phares lors des croisements avec d'autres usagers qui ne ralentissent pas suffisamment.
- contrepartie de son isolement... ...son isolement : pas de services, sauf à Chicken...
Si vous avez le temps, poussez jusqu'à Eagle.
Il y a aussi Driving Force, au départ de Whitehorse par exemple, qui autorise à rouler sur les routes régulières non goudronnées (Dempster, Denali, Top-of-the-world...), compagnie canadienne tout à fait recommandable.
J'ai passer l'âge de rouler sans assurance, mais chacun voit midi à sa porte...
Nous serons en Alaska au mois de Juin, le meilleur moment pour l'Alaska!
Quand pensez-vous y aller.
Amities
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Pour ma part, c'et fait, était l'été dernier. Ce n'étati pas la première et ce ne sera pas la dernière fois. Nous sommes avons voyagé entre Inuvik et Juneau avec le loueur que j'indiquais (Driving Force). Et cet été, ce sera un peu plus au Nord, mais en Norvège.
Bonjour,
peut être nous croiserons nous? nous y serons du 9 au 24/07
peut être nous croiserons nous? nous y serons du 9 au 24/07
J.P.OLIVIER
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Bonsoir
Nous sommes actuellement a Chicken Alaska,
Demain matin nous prendrons Taylor Hwy pour aller jusqu'a la frontiere.
Beaucoup de gens qui passent a Chicken en provenance des US nous dissent que les 10 premiers miles sont sans dessus dessous a cause d;importants travaux, vitesse max 19 miles a l'heure.
Prudence a tous ceux qui comptent emprunter cette route.
Amities
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Bonsoir Daniel,
Comme je vous l'ai dit dans mon courier precedent, nous etions hier soir a Chicken. Nous comptions traverser la frontier et aller a Dawson City. Dans l'apres-midi nous avons vu arriver des voitures avec des pneus conpletement dechiquetes. Une voiture en particulier avait deux pneus completement dechiquetes et elle etait sur la plateforme d'un camion remorque. Cout du deplacement 900.00 dollars.
Je ne veux pas vous decourager, des travaux sont en cours sur ces 12 miles tres tres difficiles. Renseignez-vous avant de vous y engager. Si vous connaissez l'anglais je vous trouverai un site ou vous poourrez voir l'etat des travaux.
Si vous tenez absolument a voir Dawson City, vous pouvez faire le tour par Whitehorse, la ou nous sommes ce soir.
Amities
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Bonsoir de nouveau
Pourriez-vous m'indiquer votre itineraire?
En faisant le tour par Whitehorse, vous ralongez votre voyage d'une journee.
Passee la frontiere The Alaska Hwy est difficile pendant au moins 150 Kms.
Dawson City en vaut la peine, nous y retournerons l'annee prochaine avec une vraie roue de secours. Notre Subaru Outback n'a qu'une (Donut).
Assurez-vous si vous avez une vraie roue de secours ou une Donut!
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Bonsoir Alex,
Voici en gros mon itinéraire :
Anchorage , parc Denali, Fairbanks , Tok, Haines Junction (Yukon) , Haines puis ferry pour Skagway , Whitehorse, Dawson City puis retour vers Tok en passant par la taylor highway ensuite Glennallen , parc Wrangell-St Elias puis Valdez ensuite Seward , Homer et retour vers Anchorage.
Donc si la Taylor Highway est impraticable que me conseillez-vous ?
Merci
Amitiés
Daniel
La route Taylor est normalement difficile et les crevaisons y sont fréquente. Pendant les constructions, ils nivellent la surface continuellement. Faut simplement ralentir. Mais s'il a plu énormément, vaut mieux oublier la Taylor.
Si vous n'avez pas d'entente avec le loueur pour l'utilisation de leur auto sur route non-pavée, vous savez que la Taylor annule toute assurance que vous avez prise. Même celle que votre carte de crédit vous promet. Alors vous y allez en connaissance de cause. Dans un cas ou j'ai agi comme interprète, l'assurance a même été annullée pour un accident sur une section pavée (donc permise) car pour s'y rendre mes amis étaient passé par une section de gravier, donc interdite.
Réservez votre traversier entre Valdez et Whittier et entre Haines et Skagway au plus tôt.
Si vous n'avez pas d'entente avec le loueur pour l'utilisation de leur auto sur route non-pavée, vous savez que la Taylor annule toute assurance que vous avez prise. Même celle que votre carte de crédit vous promet. Alors vous y allez en connaissance de cause. Dans un cas ou j'ai agi comme interprète, l'assurance a même été annullée pour un accident sur une section pavée (donc permise) car pour s'y rendre mes amis étaient passé par une section de gravier, donc interdite.
Réservez votre traversier entre Valdez et Whittier et entre Haines et Skagway au plus tôt.
Etrefal
Bonsoir Daniel
Depuis Dawson City, la seule solution et de revenir sur Whitehorse.
Cela vous ralonge d'une journee, mais vous evite les risques.
Meme avec notre voiture personnelle nous n'avons pas voulu predre c e risqué.
Faites le detour vous aurez au moins (Peace of mind) Pour Haines et Skagway, assurez-vous des horaires des ferry.
Alkex
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Merci de me conseiller pour la réservation pour la plus belle vue faut il réserver une chambre dans l'hôtel ou choisir une cabane ?
Prendre le petit déjeuner ou pas ?
Que pensez vous du restaurant ?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan