Mars 2013: trajet Bangkok - Chiang Mai en train de nuit?
by Sfanny
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous partons début mars en circuit individuel car nous souhaitons optimiser notre 1ere visite en thailande sur seulement 10 jours (pour revenir un jour par nos propres moyens quand nous aurons plus de temps...).
bref. Forcement c'est un peu plus cher qu'en sac à dos, surtout que nous ne sommes que 3, donc pour réduire quelques couts je me pose pas mal de questions, notamment pour le trajet bkk - chang mai :
à l'origine on m'a proposé : l'aller en avion puis retour en train de nuit 1ere classe.
Puis pour économiser : aller et retour en train de nuit 2nde classe
Mais comme c'est englobé avec d'autres choses et que je n'ai aucun détail je me demande si ce n'est pas économiser des bouts de chandelle ! autrement dit, connaissez vous les prix approximatifs de revient d'un trajet en train 2nde classe, en train 1ere classe et en avion.
Car monter en avion et redescendre en train me semble mieux quand même (ca fait bcp de train sinon pour 4 jours à chang mai !!!!! oui je sias, c'est court...).
Economise t'on vraiment d'etre en 2nde classe. Il parait que le coté convivial de la 2nde est recommandé ? mais est ce pas trop convivial justement (adieu semblant d'intimité...)
Merci de vos avis, j'écoute toutes vos remarques.
Sfanny
Sfanny
Bonjour,
Afin de vous donner un aperçu des trains en Thailande, voici le lien des chemins de fer thailandais... Vous pouvez vous rendre compte du type de sièges sur la photo qui apparaitra quand vous demandez les prix.
http://www.railway.co.th/home/Default.asp?lenguage=Eng
et le lien pour l'avion:
http://www.airasia.com/my/en/home.page
Cordialement
Afin de vous donner un aperçu des trains en Thailande, voici le lien des chemins de fer thailandais... Vous pouvez vous rendre compte du type de sièges sur la photo qui apparaitra quand vous demandez les prix.
http://www.railway.co.th/home/Default.asp?lenguage=Eng
et le lien pour l'avion:
http://www.airasia.com/my/en/home.page
Cordialement
moins de 15 euro de différence par couchette entre premiere et 2eme clim
mais si vous etes 3, le troisieme doit payer un compartiment complet s'il veut etre seul
le train n'a pour seul interet que de vous faire economiser une nuit d'hotel ( et les transferts a eroport) aucun interet touristique puisque frequenté a 99% par les touristes et parceque c'est la nuit donc vous ne voyez pas le paysage
un billet Bangkok ChiangMai vaut environ 60 euro en low-cost et 85 sur la Thai ( et rajouter donc la nuit d''hotel et le transfert aeroport) dans le cout au total la différence est a comparer avec l'avantage de la rapidité sans parler du fait que les horaires d'arrivée du train sont aléatoires ( a 2-3 h pres souvent)
le train n'a pour seul interet que de vous faire economiser une nuit d'hotel ( et les transferts a eroport) aucun interet touristique puisque frequenté a 99% par les touristes et parceque c'est la nuit donc vous ne voyez pas le paysage
un billet Bangkok ChiangMai vaut environ 60 euro en low-cost et 85 sur la Thai ( et rajouter donc la nuit d''hotel et le transfert aeroport) dans le cout au total la différence est a comparer avec l'avantage de la rapidité sans parler du fait que les horaires d'arrivée du train sont aléatoires ( a 2-3 h pres souvent)
Vous devez reserver le train longtemps a l'avance sur www.thairailticket.com. C'est vite plein.
Les couchettes 2e classe sont tres bien. Chaque couchette a un rideau et de l'intimite.
Pour le paysage, vous pouvez prendre le train Rapied qui part de BKK vers midi. Comme cela, vous voyagez une grande partie de jour. EN plus, ce train n'est pas A/C, beaucoup plus agreable avec les fenetres ouvertes la journee.
Les trains sont lents et toujours en retard (2 ou 3 heures, souvent).
Merci pour vos réponses.
Le problème quand on passe par un organisme c'est que eux ont leur tarif et s'en fiche de chercher si ce vol ou celui là est moins cher.
Merci en tout cas, je crois que j'ai envie de prendre en 2eme classe. Les bagages restent dans le couloir? y'a qd meme la place pr les poser? Vous avez deja entendu parler de ce pb de vol? J'ai tendance à être plutôt confiante pr ça mais bon, sait on jamais...?
Sfanny
seconde classe clim
il existe une configuration avec allée centrale et les couchettes dans le sens du train ( avec rideaux)
suivant photos ci-dessous
et un autre avec des compartiments non fermés de 4 ( avec rideau) dans le sens perpendiculaire a la voie
le compartiment de première a l'avantage ( 2 couchettes seumement) que vous avez une porte et pouvez fermer
les toilettes sont au bout du wagon (a la turque)
et un autre avec des compartiments non fermés de 4 ( avec rideau) dans le sens perpendiculaire a la voie
le compartiment de première a l'avantage ( 2 couchettes seumement) que vous avez une porte et pouvez fermer
les toilettes sont au bout du wagon (a la turque)
Bonjour,
J'ai tenté l'expérience dans le sens chumpon-BKK et je dois dire que c'était très amusant. En revanche, on attend longtemps le train sur un quai de gare (là aussi intéressant de voir la vie des commercants et voyageurs) puis à chaque arrêt les vendeurs de soupe sur le quai. J'en garde un bon souvenir. Une seule chose, nous avions sur conseil pris la clim et c'était une horreur, il devait faire 15 degrés dans ces couchettes. Pensez donc à vous couvrir si vous prnez l'option.
Bon voyage
Bonjour,
Train de nuit très bien. Bagages rangés dans le couloir mais pas de problème de sécurité, sinon si vous craignez, prenez un antivol. Prévoyez du retard à l'arrivée... mais paysages à la fin du voyage dans les montagnes et donc de jour si retard très beaux. Prendre 2è classe mais avec ventilateur, car une fois j'ai du prendre avec air conditionné et on se gèle... Toilettes au bout de chaque wagon et gardien de nuit.
Train de nuit très bien. Bagages rangés dans le couloir mais pas de problème de sécurité, sinon si vous craignez, prenez un antivol. Prévoyez du retard à l'arrivée... mais paysages à la fin du voyage dans les montagnes et donc de jour si retard très beaux. Prendre 2è classe mais avec ventilateur, car une fois j'ai du prendre avec air conditionné et on se gèle... Toilettes au bout de chaque wagon et gardien de nuit.
Bonsoir.
Nous avons pris le train BBK Chiang M avec nos deux ados.
Nous y avons passé la nuit en 1ere . Je vous le conseille pour l aller et le retour.
Vous vous intallez dans vos cabines communiquantes. Un mallabar vient vous installer les lits au départ, on vous apporte un repas local, et vous passez une nuit calme, mais......très froide. La clim est très forte. Prévoyez pull et polaire. On vous réveille le lendemain matin en vous demandant ce que vous voulez pour votre ptit dej que vous prenez en regardant le paysage.
Nous n'avons pas regretté notre voyag, nous ��tions frais et dispos à l'arrivée.
Bon voyage !
Salut Lukmee, salut à tous
Comme tu as l'air d'un spécialiste, je te pose une question de spécialiste 😉. Je compte réserver des billets pour 4, deux enfants et nous, les deux parents. Je comptais prendre des secondes classes sous forme de compartiment de 4 ( plus sympa pour l'ambiance famille avec des petits ) mais quand je fais une simulation sur le site de réservation, je ne tombe que sur une forme allée centrale. La forme compartiment est-elle réservée à certains horaires spécifiques? ou n'est il pas possible de la choisir sur internet ?
Si toi ou d'autre avez des infos merci d'avance.
Comme tu as l'air d'un spécialiste, je te pose une question de spécialiste 😉. Je compte réserver des billets pour 4, deux enfants et nous, les deux parents. Je comptais prendre des secondes classes sous forme de compartiment de 4 ( plus sympa pour l'ambiance famille avec des petits ) mais quand je fais une simulation sur le site de réservation, je ne tombe que sur une forme allée centrale. La forme compartiment est-elle réservée à certains horaires spécifiques? ou n'est il pas possible de la choisir sur internet ?
Si toi ou d'autre avez des infos merci d'avance.
en principe les trains no 1 et 2 aller retour Bangkok ChiangMai sont en ancienne configuration ( allée centrale)
et les suivants 14 et 14 sont en principe des wagonsachetés d'occase aux japonais ( trains bleus" ) ou les couchettes sont dans le sens transversal par 4
mais ce ne sont pas des compartiments fermés
voir photos sur http://www.seat61.com/Thailand.htm#.UPEuqlJMFBk
par contre strictement aucune garantie de la config des trains et wagons car le SRT (la SNCF thaie) fait ce qu'elle veut
donc effectivement vous ne pouvez choisir ni savoir d'avance en achetant vos billets
mais ce ne sont pas des compartiments fermés
voir photos sur http://www.seat61.com/Thailand.htm#.UPEuqlJMFBk
par contre strictement aucune garantie de la config des trains et wagons car le SRT (la SNCF thaie) fait ce qu'elle veut
donc effectivement vous ne pouvez choisir ni savoir d'avance en achetant vos billets
Bonjour,
J'ai payé en première classe (compartiment) de Chiang Mai à BNangkok pour 2 : 101 € (selon cours du bahts) fin novembre 2012.
Michel
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I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)


