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Bonjour,
Est-il difficile pour une thaïlandaise marié à un farang en Thaïlande (et mariage retranscrit pour la France) d'obtenir un visa pour vivre en France?
Merci.
Obtenir un visa pour vivre en France étant une Thaïlandaise mariée à un farang en Thaïlande
by Lolaumes
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
... mais bientôt il va falloir que madame parle français .....😉
Ce qui me semble ne pas être un mal, mais ils ne vont pas leur demander de parler parfaitement non plus ^^ Aussi d'après ce que j'ai compris le test de Français sera accompagné de questions d'ordre civique
Ce qui me semble ne pas être un mal, mais ils ne vont pas leur demander de parler parfaitement non plus ^^ Aussi d'après ce que j'ai compris le test de Français sera accompagné de questions d'ordre civique
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puisque la non maîtrise de la langue d'accueil ne peut pas être rédhibitoire pour le visa.
il y a une preuve pour avancer cela ?? il y a 2 jours a l'ambassade de france a bkk on m'a dit le contraire 🤪🤪
puis cela va être appliquer a qui ??
il y a une preuve pour avancer cela ?? il y a 2 jours a l'ambassade de france a bkk on m'a dit le contraire 🤪🤪
puis cela va être appliquer a qui ??
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
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puisque la non maîtrise de la langue d'accueil ne peut pas être rédhibitoire pour le visa.
il y a une preuve pour avancer cela ?? il y a 2 jours a l'ambassade de france a bkk on m'a dit le contraire 🤪🤪
puis cela va être appliquer a qui ??
Bonjour, En français, un message commence par "Bonjour", si on veut susciter un échange courtois en tout cas. Non-maîtrise du français?😎
il y a une preuve pour avancer cela ?? il y a 2 jours a l'ambassade de france a bkk on m'a dit le contraire 🤪🤪
puis cela va être appliquer a qui ??
Bonjour, En français, un message commence par "Bonjour", si on veut susciter un échange courtois en tout cas. Non-maîtrise du français?😎
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
En français, un message commence par "Bonjour", si on veut susciter un échange courtois en tout cas
C'est ta conception, heureusement ce n'est pas celle de tout le monde. Que de lignes inutiles si tous les posts commençaient par "bonjour" (et non "bonnour" comme dans ton avant-dernier post 😛). Outre la signature, il faudrait prévoir une option "1ère ligne".
C'est ta conception, heureusement ce n'est pas celle de tout le monde. Que de lignes inutiles si tous les posts commençaient par "bonjour" (et non "bonnour" comme dans ton avant-dernier post 😛). Outre la signature, il faudrait prévoir une option "1ère ligne".
En français, un message commence par "Bonjour", si on veut susciter un échange courtois en tout cas.
Autre cas ou on peut l'utiliser afin de susciter un echange courtois..........:
" Bonjour, Mademoiselle, puis-je accepter un verre?"😉
" Bonjour, Mademoiselle, puis-je accepter un verre?"😉
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
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ok bonjour .. en attendant tu ne répond pas a ma question en te mettant hors sujet ..
.. es pour noyer le poisson?
a moins que l'obligation d'apprendre un minimum de français est destiné aux touristes?? 🤪
Bonsoir, merci pour la forme, on n'est pas des sauvages. Donc puisque tu as dit bonjour, je te réponds (désolé pour le ping pong, j'ai vraiment une côte fêlée).
L'échec au test obligatoire de langue (donc la non-maîtrise du niveau de langue demandé) ne peut pas être un motif suffisant pour refuser le visa (législation européenne, droit opposable, si on a un bon avocat et du temps devant soi, c'est à dire plusieurs années).
Toutefois, le droit européen stipule aussi que tout état ayant signé le traité (me rappelle plus les références) peut aussi mettre en place de son côté des dispositifs nationaux.
Ca doit être intéressant pour un spécialiste du droit, et en tout cas ça justifiera ses honoraires.
Donc pour en revenir à nos moutons, cet échec peut donner lieu à un "gel" du dossier du visa (ça ménage les susceptibilités des législateurs européens), à des cours sur place, à un nouveau test, et en cas de nouvel échec, à une formation obligatoire à l'arrivée en France. De plus, les textes prévoient des "dispenses". Tout cela se met en place petit à petit (ça demande du temps, l'administration doit financer les cours et sur place ce n'est pas évident, etc...)
Le test de français est le 1er niveau du DILF et quelques questions sur " la France". Il est mené par des personnes qui n'ont aucune compétence d'examinateur mais qui doivent montrer de la "bienveillance"( Vous pouvez répéter la question?).
On peut trouver les épreuves sur le net. Avant le test, évidemment on peut prendre des cours où on veut, à sa charge.
Après le test, si échec, l'administration se doit alors d'organiser l'acccès à des cours dans un organisme habilité (par elle), et pris en charge (par elle), et "si possible" (si la personne habite dans un village perdu, je suis curieux de savoir ce que va pouvoir proposer l'administration, à part laisser tomber et reporter les cours sur ses premiers mois en France!)
Attention!... le temps que je comprenne, ça change, donc mise à jour impérative! Personnellement je pronostique un durcissement des lois ces prochaines semaines...
a moins que l'obligation d'apprendre un minimum de français est destiné aux touristes?? 🤪
Bonsoir, merci pour la forme, on n'est pas des sauvages. Donc puisque tu as dit bonjour, je te réponds (désolé pour le ping pong, j'ai vraiment une côte fêlée).
L'échec au test obligatoire de langue (donc la non-maîtrise du niveau de langue demandé) ne peut pas être un motif suffisant pour refuser le visa (législation européenne, droit opposable, si on a un bon avocat et du temps devant soi, c'est à dire plusieurs années).
Toutefois, le droit européen stipule aussi que tout état ayant signé le traité (me rappelle plus les références) peut aussi mettre en place de son côté des dispositifs nationaux.
Ca doit être intéressant pour un spécialiste du droit, et en tout cas ça justifiera ses honoraires.
Donc pour en revenir à nos moutons, cet échec peut donner lieu à un "gel" du dossier du visa (ça ménage les susceptibilités des législateurs européens), à des cours sur place, à un nouveau test, et en cas de nouvel échec, à une formation obligatoire à l'arrivée en France. De plus, les textes prévoient des "dispenses". Tout cela se met en place petit à petit (ça demande du temps, l'administration doit financer les cours et sur place ce n'est pas évident, etc...)
Le test de français est le 1er niveau du DILF et quelques questions sur " la France". Il est mené par des personnes qui n'ont aucune compétence d'examinateur mais qui doivent montrer de la "bienveillance"( Vous pouvez répéter la question?).
On peut trouver les épreuves sur le net. Avant le test, évidemment on peut prendre des cours où on veut, à sa charge.
Après le test, si échec, l'administration se doit alors d'organiser l'acccès à des cours dans un organisme habilité (par elle), et pris en charge (par elle), et "si possible" (si la personne habite dans un village perdu, je suis curieux de savoir ce que va pouvoir proposer l'administration, à part laisser tomber et reporter les cours sur ses premiers mois en France!)
Attention!... le temps que je comprenne, ça change, donc mise à jour impérative! Personnellement je pronostique un durcissement des lois ces prochaines semaines...
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
bonsoir,
voici la procédure: - test de francais
si echec au test la personne doit suivre des cours de 2 semaines dans un des centres définies donc aux personnes qui habitent loin, ils doivent se debrouiller.
A l'issue des cours on remet un justificatif que les personnes ont bien suivi les cours mais si ils n'ont toujours pas le niveau (quasi-certains et vive les impots qui financent qqchose d'inutile) alors la personne a l'obligation de suivre des cours a son arrivée en france.
Ce qui est important c'est d'avoir assisté aux cours qui permet de ne pas bloquer l'obtention du visa
* aucunes personnes ne peut apprendre une langue et encore moins le francais en 2 semaines... LE ridicule ne tue pas heureusement
voici la procédure: - test de francais
si echec au test la personne doit suivre des cours de 2 semaines dans un des centres définies donc aux personnes qui habitent loin, ils doivent se debrouiller.
A l'issue des cours on remet un justificatif que les personnes ont bien suivi les cours mais si ils n'ont toujours pas le niveau (quasi-certains et vive les impots qui financent qqchose d'inutile) alors la personne a l'obligation de suivre des cours a son arrivée en france.
Ce qui est important c'est d'avoir assisté aux cours qui permet de ne pas bloquer l'obtention du visa
* aucunes personnes ne peut apprendre une langue et encore moins le francais en 2 semaines... LE ridicule ne tue pas heureusement
* aucunes personnes ne peut apprendre une langue et encore moins le francais en 2 semaines... LE ridicule ne tue pas MAL-heureusement
et merci qui? 😉 ne réponds pas c'est pas la peine 😕
et merci qui? 😉 ne réponds pas c'est pas la peine 😕
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Bonsoir,
tu as tout ici, puisque la procédure administrative a simplement repris le 1er niveau de "français pour migrants" ou "FLE" mis au point depuis quelques années, recommandations européennes à l'appui.
http://www.ciep.fr/dilf/index.php
http://www.ciep.fr/dilf/index.php
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Bonjour,
Est-il difficile pour une thaïlandaise marié à un farang en Thaïlande (et mariage retranscrit pour la France) d'obtenir un visa pour vivre en France?
Merci.
Commence par effacer le mot "farang" de son vocabulaire ou enseigne lui a apeller les Africains "negro", les Arabes "bougnoule", les Asiatiques "face de citron", etc...
Et au passage explique lui que les Thais, les Laotiens, les Cambodgiens, les Birmans c'est tous same, same et pas du tout different! Elle va te serer sur son coeur!
Commence par effacer le mot "farang" de son vocabulaire ou enseigne lui a apeller les Africains "negro", les Arabes "bougnoule", les Asiatiques "face de citron", etc...
Et au passage explique lui que les Thais, les Laotiens, les Cambodgiens, les Birmans c'est tous same, same et pas du tout different! Elle va te serer sur son coeur!
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw
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Sawadee ka,
Bientot la Thailande va nous demander la meme chose alors la ! On va bien rire😄 apprendre le thailandais en 2 semaines pour les maries farangs !ah!ah!😏
Lakon
Bientot la Thailande va nous demander la meme chose alors la ! On va bien rire😄 apprendre le thailandais en 2 semaines pour les maries farangs !ah!ah!😏
Lakon
Il y a plus de chose a decouvrir sur terre que sur la lune !
Bonjour,
Est-il difficile pour une thaïlandaise marié à un farang en Thaïlande (et mariage retranscrit pour la France) d'obtenir un visa pour vivre en France?
Merci.
Commence par effacer le mot "farang" de son vocabulaire ou enseigne lui a apeller les Africains "negro", les Arabes "bougnoule", les Asiatiques "face de citron", etc...
Et au passage explique lui que les Thais, les Laotiens, les Cambodgiens, les Birmans c'est tous same, same et pas du tout different! Elle va te serer sur son coeur!
Le mot farang : désigne un étranger de race blanche. L'origine serait une mauvaise prononciation du mot "francais", lors de la colonisation de la région de l'Indochine (sauf de la Thailande), mot qui serait devenu frang-cè puis farang-cè et farang.
Commence par effacer le mot "farang" de son vocabulaire ou enseigne lui a apeller les Africains "negro", les Arabes "bougnoule", les Asiatiques "face de citron", etc...
Et au passage explique lui que les Thais, les Laotiens, les Cambodgiens, les Birmans c'est tous same, same et pas du tout different! Elle va te serer sur son coeur!
Le mot farang : désigne un étranger de race blanche. L'origine serait une mauvaise prononciation du mot "francais", lors de la colonisation de la région de l'Indochine (sauf de la Thailande), mot qui serait devenu frang-cè puis farang-cè et farang.
Le mot farang : désigne un étranger de race blanche. L'origine serait une mauvaise prononciation du mot "francais", lors de la colonisation de la région de l'Indochine (sauf de la Thailande), mot qui serait devenu frang-cè puis farang-cè et farang.
En fait "farang-set" et les thais plaisantent en rajoutant "set-farang" 😛 Comprenne qui pourra 😉
En fait "farang-set" et les thais plaisantent en rajoutant "set-farang" 😛 Comprenne qui pourra 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Sawadee ka,
Bientot la Thailande va nous demander la meme chose alors la ! On va bien rire😄 apprendre le thailandais en 2 semaines pour les maries farangs !ah!ah!😏
Lakon
bonjour à tous(, ce post est un peu tardif mais d'actualité) je viens de me marier à buriram "19/aout 2014"et on ne m'a pas demandé si je parlais thailandais. j'ai même été agréablement surpris de la rapidité avec laquelle nous avons eu le cpam , légalisation, traduction et obtention du bulletin de mariage. pittos
Bientot la Thailande va nous demander la meme chose alors la ! On va bien rire😄 apprendre le thailandais en 2 semaines pour les maries farangs !ah!ah!😏
Lakon
bonjour à tous(, ce post est un peu tardif mais d'actualité) je viens de me marier à buriram "19/aout 2014"et on ne m'a pas demandé si je parlais thailandais. j'ai même été agréablement surpris de la rapidité avec laquelle nous avons eu le cpam , légalisation, traduction et obtention du bulletin de mariage. pittos
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TELI Club shares summer job offers in Canada—if you're tempted by a job as a camp counselor in Canada, you should know there’s now a specific work visa for that. All the info is here: https://www.canada.ca/fr/immigration-refugies-citoyennete/services/travailler-canada/permis/moniteur-camp-residentiel.html#type
Hi everyone! 👨🏾🤝👨🏻
My partner and I currently live in Antibes—we’re both freelancers working remotely. We’re thinking about potentially moving to Italy.
We’d like to settle near the French border, between Ventimiglia and San Remo (this is important because we need access to Nice Airport twice a month). ✈️
I’d love to hear about life in this region! We’re looking for a quiet spot close to the sea. Any recommendations? As for the paperwork, is it difficult to get everything official? Is finding housing tough in this area? What kind of guarantees are usually required? If any kind soul could shed some light on this, we’d really appreciate it! 🥺🏻
Thanks so much for your help and advice! ☺️
My partner and I currently live in Antibes—we’re both freelancers working remotely. We’re thinking about potentially moving to Italy.
We’d like to settle near the French border, between Ventimiglia and San Remo (this is important because we need access to Nice Airport twice a month). ✈️
I’d love to hear about life in this region! We’re looking for a quiet spot close to the sea. Any recommendations? As for the paperwork, is it difficult to get everything official? Is finding housing tough in this area? What kind of guarantees are usually required? If any kind soul could shed some light on this, we’d really appreciate it! 🥺🏻
Thanks so much for your help and advice! ☺️
I'm looking for an au pair who'd like to come to Bournemouth in the south of England, and I'd love to know what the best websites are to find one, please.
Hi everyone,
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^