Organisation de la nation en temps de guerre sanitaire
by Roustons
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
La pandémie actuelle est parfois l'occasion de chamailleries puériles, de règlements de comptes, etc. Certains veulent la peau de leur voisin. Par méchanceté ou pour évacuer leurs propres angoisses. La bassesse humaine comme dans toutes les guerres. Le problème est que cette guerre n'est pas la guerre d'un groupe humain contre un autre groupe humain. C'est la guerre de l'humanité toute entière contre un virus.
Je propose un fil de solidarité pour partager des méthodes passives éprouvées de lutte contre la propagation du virus pour pallier à la carence de beaucoup de gouvernements et compléter les mesures déjà prises.
Dans certains pays, on a prétendu que les masques ne servaient à rien avant de faire machine arrière. Voici une méthode de fabrication des masques approuvée par un organisme français :
https://www.europe1.fr/sante/coronavirus-un-referentiel-pour-fabriquer-ses-propres-masques-mis-en-ligne-3958168
https://www.afnor.org/actualites/coronavirus-telechargez-le-modele-de-masque-barriere/
Toutes les recettes artisanales mais éprouvées de lutte (désinfectant, etc) sont les bienvenues.
Gentil de jouer les sauveurs de l'humanité.
J'ai la télé.
Mon message s'adressait bien sûr aux gens de bonne volonté. Pas à ceux qui savent déjà tout sur tout. Apparemment très nombreux sur ce site. Anecdote. Je porte un masque depuis près d'un mois et pas mal de gens se payaient ma tête parce que justement ils avaient la télé. Et qu'on leur disait à la télé que ça servait à rien.
Mon message s'adressait bien sûr aux gens de bonne volonté. Pas à ceux qui savent déjà tout sur tout. Apparemment très nombreux sur ce site. Anecdote. Je porte un masque depuis près d'un mois et pas mal de gens se payaient ma tête parce que justement ils avaient la télé. Et qu'on leur disait à la télé que ça servait à rien.
Gentil de jouer les sauveurs de l'humanité.
J'ai la télé.
Mon message s'adressait bien sûr aux gens de bonne volonté. Pas à ceux qui savent déjà tout sur tout. Apparemment très nombreux sur ce site. Anecdote. Je porte un masque depuis près d'un mois et pas mal de gens se payaient ma tête parce que justement ils avaient la télé. Et qu'on leur disait à la télé que ça servait à rien.
Tu es un héros.
Mon message s'adressait bien sûr aux gens de bonne volonté. Pas à ceux qui savent déjà tout sur tout. Apparemment très nombreux sur ce site. Anecdote. Je porte un masque depuis près d'un mois et pas mal de gens se payaient ma tête parce que justement ils avaient la télé. Et qu'on leur disait à la télé que ça servait à rien.
Tu es un héros.
La bassesse humaine comme dans toutes les guerres. Le problème est que cette guerre n'est pas la guerre d'un groupe humain contre un autre groupe humain. C'est la guerre de l'humanité toute entière contre un virus.
Bonjour,
Il me semble que le terme de guerre est inapproprié pour ce type d'événement.Enfin disons que je n'aime pas ce terme.
Dans certains pays, on a prétendu que les masques ne servaient à rien avant de faire machine arrière.
Lorsque l'on n'est pas doté du matériel nécessaire ou que ce matériel est très insuffisant on dit que son utilisation est inutile.
Toutes les recettes artisanales mais éprouvées de lutte (désinfectant, etc) sont les bienvenues.
Quand il s'agit de sauver des vies on devrait tenter des solutions comme celle du professeur Raoult même si on n'est pas certain d'une réussite à grande ou à petite échelle. Pasteur avait sauvé la vie d'un enfant en tentant sur lui l'expérience de la dernière chance et son vaccin contre la rage jusqu'alors seulement expérimenté sur des animaux a été une réussite...ça aurait pu ne pas l'être... Recette pour une prochaine infection: Renforcer son système immunitaire en changeant de mode de vie.Cela suppose une remise en question totale de celui-ci.
Bonjour,
Il me semble que le terme de guerre est inapproprié pour ce type d'événement.Enfin disons que je n'aime pas ce terme.
Dans certains pays, on a prétendu que les masques ne servaient à rien avant de faire machine arrière.
Lorsque l'on n'est pas doté du matériel nécessaire ou que ce matériel est très insuffisant on dit que son utilisation est inutile.
Toutes les recettes artisanales mais éprouvées de lutte (désinfectant, etc) sont les bienvenues.
Quand il s'agit de sauver des vies on devrait tenter des solutions comme celle du professeur Raoult même si on n'est pas certain d'une réussite à grande ou à petite échelle. Pasteur avait sauvé la vie d'un enfant en tentant sur lui l'expérience de la dernière chance et son vaccin contre la rage jusqu'alors seulement expérimenté sur des animaux a été une réussite...ça aurait pu ne pas l'être... Recette pour une prochaine infection: Renforcer son système immunitaire en changeant de mode de vie.Cela suppose une remise en question totale de celui-ci.
Bonjour,
Pour moi, si, il s'agit d'une guerre, une guerre contre un ennemi invisible, tueur, contre lequel, nous sommes non seulement impréparés, mais et surtout sans arme. Cela s'apparente à une guerre bactériologique sauf qu'il ne s'agit pas d'une bactérie, mais d'un virus, alors " guerre virale " pourrait on dire. Dans ces conditions tout est bon pour se protéger et aussi se soigner en cas d'attaque. Nos organismes n'ont pas tous les mêmes moyens de défense. Alors oui je suis d'accord avec vous, il va falloir adopter de nouvelles mesures alimentaires. Revenir à quelque chose de plus vrai. Alors, c'est vrai que dans ces conditions, chacun va y aller de ses petites recettes.
Pour moi, si, il s'agit d'une guerre, une guerre contre un ennemi invisible, tueur, contre lequel, nous sommes non seulement impréparés, mais et surtout sans arme. Cela s'apparente à une guerre bactériologique sauf qu'il ne s'agit pas d'une bactérie, mais d'un virus, alors " guerre virale " pourrait on dire. Dans ces conditions tout est bon pour se protéger et aussi se soigner en cas d'attaque. Nos organismes n'ont pas tous les mêmes moyens de défense. Alors oui je suis d'accord avec vous, il va falloir adopter de nouvelles mesures alimentaires. Revenir à quelque chose de plus vrai. Alors, c'est vrai que dans ces conditions, chacun va y aller de ses petites recettes.
louxor71
Bonjour,
Quand on imagine des guerres bactériologiques, on entend par là des guerres menées de façon délibérée, avec des armes bactériologiques créées et utilisées à des fins politiques ou territoriales. Ici cela n'a rien à voir : il s'agit d'un virus, naturel, passé à l'homme, comme il y en a eu de très nombreux. Cet accident naturel s'est souvent produit au XX° siècle. En 1918, en 1957, en 1968, il y a ainsi eu des épidémies mondiales. La différence tient à la présence de déplacements mondiaux rapides et intenses, et au fait que le monde soit devenu un gigantesque marché financier, avec une (sur)information instantanée. Revenir à une alimentation moins industrielle ne changera rien ; d'un certain point de vue cela pourrait même être pire.
Bonjour, Pour moi, si, il s'agit d'une guerre, une guerre contre un ennemi invisible, tueur, contre lequel, nous sommes non seulement impréparés, mais et surtout sans arme. Cela s'apparente à une guerre bactériologique sauf qu'il ne s'agit pas d'une bactérie, mais d'un virus, alors " guerre virale " pourrait on dire. Dans ces conditions tout est bon pour se protéger et aussi se soigner en cas d'attaque. Nos organismes n'ont pas tous les mêmes moyens de défense. Alors oui je suis d'accord avec vous, il va falloir adopter de nouvelles mesures alimentaires. Revenir à quelque chose de plus vrai. Alors, c'est vrai que dans ces conditions, chacun va y aller de ses petites recettes.
Michel
Quand on imagine des guerres bactériologiques, on entend par là des guerres menées de façon délibérée, avec des armes bactériologiques créées et utilisées à des fins politiques ou territoriales. Ici cela n'a rien à voir : il s'agit d'un virus, naturel, passé à l'homme, comme il y en a eu de très nombreux. Cet accident naturel s'est souvent produit au XX° siècle. En 1918, en 1957, en 1968, il y a ainsi eu des épidémies mondiales. La différence tient à la présence de déplacements mondiaux rapides et intenses, et au fait que le monde soit devenu un gigantesque marché financier, avec une (sur)information instantanée. Revenir à une alimentation moins industrielle ne changera rien ; d'un certain point de vue cela pourrait même être pire.
Bonjour, Pour moi, si, il s'agit d'une guerre, une guerre contre un ennemi invisible, tueur, contre lequel, nous sommes non seulement impréparés, mais et surtout sans arme. Cela s'apparente à une guerre bactériologique sauf qu'il ne s'agit pas d'une bactérie, mais d'un virus, alors " guerre virale " pourrait on dire. Dans ces conditions tout est bon pour se protéger et aussi se soigner en cas d'attaque. Nos organismes n'ont pas tous les mêmes moyens de défense. Alors oui je suis d'accord avec vous, il va falloir adopter de nouvelles mesures alimentaires. Revenir à quelque chose de plus vrai. Alors, c'est vrai que dans ces conditions, chacun va y aller de ses petites recettes.
Michel
Si vous le dites, c'est que ça doit doit être vrai.
Je reprenais tout simplement les mots de notre Président qui avait employé plusieurs fois lors de son discours, le mot guerre.
Donc, lorsque j'ai écrit , je pensais à une forme de guerre, pas sous la forme où vous l'entendez, mais comme vous prenez tout au pied levé................................et voulez avoir raison à tout prix, je ne vais pas vous contrarier. Non, je vais quitter le forum pour l'après midi, mon jardin et ma terrasse m'attendent au soleil, alors je m'en vais profiter de ce superbe après midi, ainsi vous aurez tout le loisir de tergiverser et je ne souhaite pas participer à ces discussions. Toutefois, j'espère que vous comprendrez, qu'ici tout un chacun a le droit de donner son opinion, j'ai utilisé ce droit.
Sur ce............bon après midi, j'oubliais, ne fatiguez pas votre clavier inutilement.
louxor71
Je reprenais tout simplement les mots de notre Président qui avait employé plusieurs fois lors de son discours, le mot guerre.
Vous comprenez bien qu'il s'agit d'éléments de langage, de discours politique, avec une finalité de communication politique de masse...
Bonne après-midi au jardin et profitez bien de votre terrasse.
Michel
Vous comprenez bien qu'il s'agit d'éléments de langage, de discours politique, avec une finalité de communication politique de masse...
Bonne après-midi au jardin et profitez bien de votre terrasse.
Michel
j'espère que vous comprendrez, qu'ici tout un chacun a le droit de donner son opinion, j'ai utilisé ce droit.
Bonjour, En effet, chacun peut exprimer son opinion. Je vais le faire aussi. Je rejoins Tatra (je ne suis pas souvent d'accord avec sa vison des choses ; mais ici, pas de problème !) quand il dit qu'il s'agit de la part du président de la R, "d'éléments de langage, de discours politique, avec une finalité de communication politique de masse..."
Il est clair que nous ne sommes pas dans une guerre. Nos anciens le savent très bien. Et le disent. Pas besoin de courir aux abris, pas de pénurie alimentaire, pas de stratégie à développer avec les enfants quand on entend des bombes. Pas d'ennemis qui déboulent dans les logements pour exiger pitance, avec toutes les violences "d'usage", etc.
Non, nous ne sommes pas en guerre. Ceux qui sont en guerre le savent bien (Yeménites, Syriens...).
Revenons au sujet initial de cette discussion : "un fil de solidarité pour partager des méthodes passives éprouvées de lutte contre la propagation du virus pour pallier à la carence de beaucoup de gouvernements et compléter les mesures déjà prises". Personnellement, je trouve que ça foisonne déjà de tous les côtés, sur tous les réseaux sociaux. Je ne suis pas certaine que démultiplier ces infos sur ce forum, un forum de voyage, apporte une quelconque plus value aux infos, et au forum. Enfin, c'est mon avis.
Cordialement, Murielle
Bonjour, En effet, chacun peut exprimer son opinion. Je vais le faire aussi. Je rejoins Tatra (je ne suis pas souvent d'accord avec sa vison des choses ; mais ici, pas de problème !) quand il dit qu'il s'agit de la part du président de la R, "d'éléments de langage, de discours politique, avec une finalité de communication politique de masse..."
Il est clair que nous ne sommes pas dans une guerre. Nos anciens le savent très bien. Et le disent. Pas besoin de courir aux abris, pas de pénurie alimentaire, pas de stratégie à développer avec les enfants quand on entend des bombes. Pas d'ennemis qui déboulent dans les logements pour exiger pitance, avec toutes les violences "d'usage", etc.
Non, nous ne sommes pas en guerre. Ceux qui sont en guerre le savent bien (Yeménites, Syriens...).
Revenons au sujet initial de cette discussion : "un fil de solidarité pour partager des méthodes passives éprouvées de lutte contre la propagation du virus pour pallier à la carence de beaucoup de gouvernements et compléter les mesures déjà prises". Personnellement, je trouve que ça foisonne déjà de tous les côtés, sur tous les réseaux sociaux. Je ne suis pas certaine que démultiplier ces infos sur ce forum, un forum de voyage, apporte une quelconque plus value aux infos, et au forum. Enfin, c'est mon avis.
Cordialement, Murielle
... là-bas si j'y suis...
"Alors oui je suis d'accord avec vous, il va falloir adopter de nouvelles mesures alimentaires. Revenir à quelque chose.."
Oui j ai toujours dit avoir des doutes sur le ragoût de pangolin
Bon. C est nul, je sais. Mais ça me fait rire un peu.
Oui j ai toujours dit avoir des doutes sur le ragoût de pangolin
Bon. C est nul, je sais. Mais ça me fait rire un peu.
Oui...
"Un fil de solidarité pour partager des méthodes passives éprouvées de lutte contre la propagation du virus pour pallier à la carence de beaucoup de gouvernements et compléter les mesures déjà prises".
Comme , justement , de méthodes "éprouvées " il n y en a pas, je pense aussi qu il n est peut-être pas bien futé d echanger nos éventuelles petites combines, qui, de plus, voudraient "pallier", vaste programme, aux carences réelles ou supposées de nos gouvernements...
"Un fil de solidarité pour partager des méthodes passives éprouvées de lutte contre la propagation du virus pour pallier à la carence de beaucoup de gouvernements et compléter les mesures déjà prises".
Comme , justement , de méthodes "éprouvées " il n y en a pas, je pense aussi qu il n est peut-être pas bien futé d echanger nos éventuelles petites combines, qui, de plus, voudraient "pallier", vaste programme, aux carences réelles ou supposées de nos gouvernements...
Oui...
"Un fil de solidarité pour partager des méthodes passives éprouvées de lutte contre la propagation du virus pour pallier à la carence de beaucoup de gouvernements et compléter les mesures déjà prises".
Comme , justement , de méthodes "éprouvées " il n y en a pas, je pense aussi qu il n est peut-être pas bien futé d echanger nos éventuelles petites combines, qui, de plus, voudraient "pallier", vaste programme, aux carences réelles ou supposées de nos gouvernements...
J'ai relayé une méthode de fabrication des masques. Les français disaient que ça ne sert à pas grand chose parce qu'il n'y en a pas en France. Maintenant vos dirigeants disent que les Français sont trop bêtes pour s'en servir correctement.
Quand je parlais de méthodes éprouvées , je ne parlais de grigris, de recettes de grand-mère ou de délires de gourous. Par exemple, il y a une méthode sérieuse pour fabriquer du gel hydroalcoolique : https://www.cnews.fr/conso/2020-03-20/comment-fabriquer-son-gel-hydroalcoolique-maison-932309
Désolé mais pour le mot guerre, c'est ce mot qui est utilisé par le secrétaire général de l'ONU : https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-antonio-guterres-speaks-to-euronews-about-un-s-covid-19-response C'est le mot utilisé partout dans le monde. Exemple, au Bengladesh : https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/views/the-war-on-the-covid-19-virus-1585411955 Sur tous les sens du mot guerre : https://www.littre.org/definition/guerre Côté conflit au sens propre du terme, a force de couper les cheveux en quatre, on a fini par dire que la France n'est pas en guerre mais il y a des militaires armés jusqu'aux dents partout dans la rue. Cherchez l'erreur.
Si mon message n'a pas sa place sur ce site, les messages sur le confinement du style "restez chez vous" non plus. Enfin, c'est ce que je pense. Le rapport avec le voyage ? Hé bien, plus vite on arrêtera l'épidémie, plus vite on pourra à nouveau voyager.
"Un fil de solidarité pour partager des méthodes passives éprouvées de lutte contre la propagation du virus pour pallier à la carence de beaucoup de gouvernements et compléter les mesures déjà prises".
Comme , justement , de méthodes "éprouvées " il n y en a pas, je pense aussi qu il n est peut-être pas bien futé d echanger nos éventuelles petites combines, qui, de plus, voudraient "pallier", vaste programme, aux carences réelles ou supposées de nos gouvernements...
J'ai relayé une méthode de fabrication des masques. Les français disaient que ça ne sert à pas grand chose parce qu'il n'y en a pas en France. Maintenant vos dirigeants disent que les Français sont trop bêtes pour s'en servir correctement.
Quand je parlais de méthodes éprouvées , je ne parlais de grigris, de recettes de grand-mère ou de délires de gourous. Par exemple, il y a une méthode sérieuse pour fabriquer du gel hydroalcoolique : https://www.cnews.fr/conso/2020-03-20/comment-fabriquer-son-gel-hydroalcoolique-maison-932309
Désolé mais pour le mot guerre, c'est ce mot qui est utilisé par le secrétaire général de l'ONU : https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-antonio-guterres-speaks-to-euronews-about-un-s-covid-19-response C'est le mot utilisé partout dans le monde. Exemple, au Bengladesh : https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/views/the-war-on-the-covid-19-virus-1585411955 Sur tous les sens du mot guerre : https://www.littre.org/definition/guerre Côté conflit au sens propre du terme, a force de couper les cheveux en quatre, on a fini par dire que la France n'est pas en guerre mais il y a des militaires armés jusqu'aux dents partout dans la rue. Cherchez l'erreur.
Si mon message n'a pas sa place sur ce site, les messages sur le confinement du style "restez chez vous" non plus. Enfin, c'est ce que je pense. Le rapport avec le voyage ? Hé bien, plus vite on arrêtera l'épidémie, plus vite on pourra à nouveau voyager.
Les militaires qui patrouillent armés sont ceux de la mission sentinelle. Oui la il s agit de guerre. Contre le terrorisme
Les militaires de la mission résilience n ont aucune mission d odre guerrier.
Le mot guerre est pour ma part une erreur.
Le masque dont tu donnes le lien : il faut donner toutes ses coordonnées à l AFNOR. Nje n'en ai pas envie. Quand qu félix il est revenu dans now pharmacies depuis quelques jours.
Les militaires de la mission résilience n ont aucune mission d odre guerrier.
Le mot guerre est pour ma part une erreur.
Le masque dont tu donnes le lien : il faut donner toutes ses coordonnées à l AFNOR. Nje n'en ai pas envie. Quand qu félix il est revenu dans now pharmacies depuis quelques jours.
"Alors oui je suis d'accord avec vous, il va falloir adopter de nouvelles mesures alimentaires. Revenir à quelque chose.."
Oui j ai toujours dit avoir des doutes sur le ragoût de pangolin
Bon. C est nul, je sais. Mais ça me fait rire un peu.
En Chine, sur un marché aux poissons, la police a découvert des civettes sur les mêmes étalages...
En Chine, à propos des marchés de viandes-poissons & autres, une hygiène alimentaire, sanitaire minimum n'a jamais exister, alors après, qu'on ne vienne pas me dire d'où viennent les virus !!
Oui j ai toujours dit avoir des doutes sur le ragoût de pangolin
Bon. C est nul, je sais. Mais ça me fait rire un peu.
En Chine, sur un marché aux poissons, la police a découvert des civettes sur les mêmes étalages...
En Chine, à propos des marchés de viandes-poissons & autres, une hygiène alimentaire, sanitaire minimum n'a jamais exister, alors après, qu'on ne vienne pas me dire d'où viennent les virus !!
Oui j ai toujours dit avoir des doutes sur le ragoût de pangolin
Faudra aussi éviter les chauves-souris pas seulement porteuses de la rage! Je vais donc hésiter à explorer certaines grottes du Vercors😉
Faudra aussi éviter les chauves-souris pas seulement porteuses de la rage! Je vais donc hésiter à explorer certaines grottes du Vercors😉
En Chine, sur un marché aux poissons, la police a découvert des civettes sur les mêmes étalages...
Les chinois ont toujours mangé toutes formes animales: Insectes, batraciens, serpents pangolins , civettes, singes ours tigres, loups, sans oublier toute la pharmacopée animale en grande partie prélevée sur les espèces protégées :corne de Rhinos testicules de tigres, pattes d'ours, ailerons de requins etc...
Les chinois ont toujours mangé toutes formes animales: Insectes, batraciens, serpents pangolins , civettes, singes ours tigres, loups, sans oublier toute la pharmacopée animale en grande partie prélevée sur les espèces protégées :corne de Rhinos testicules de tigres, pattes d'ours, ailerons de requins etc...
Je suis preneur de la meilleure façon de manger une orange qui vient d'une boutique, sans risquer la contamination.
Mais euréka...ce fil m'aura été utile car je viens de trouver la solution...
La couper en deux et la manger à la petite cuillère.
(pour le reste, la France en confinement est toujours la même, toujours un bon prétexte pour s'engueuler).
(pour le reste, la France en confinement est toujours la même, toujours un bon prétexte pour s'engueuler).
(pour le reste, la France en confinement est toujours la même, toujours un bon prétexte pour s'engueuler).
C'est simple, ceux, toujours les mêmes qui rétorquent à tout va arrêteront le jour où personne ne leur répondra. A mon avis, ce jour là, ils vont vraiment s'ennuyer, cette discussion partait pourtant d'un bon sentiment.
C'est simple, ceux, toujours les mêmes qui rétorquent à tout va arrêteront le jour où personne ne leur répondra. A mon avis, ce jour là, ils vont vraiment s'ennuyer, cette discussion partait pourtant d'un bon sentiment.
louxor71
La couper en deux et la manger à la petite cuillère.
Tu te laveras les mains avant de passer à table.En fin de repas tu te saisiras de ton orange...La peau de l'orange maintes fois manipulée peut contenir le virus qui passera dans ta main que tu ne manqueras pas de porter à ton visage ou même à ta bouche par inadvertance et te voilà contaminé.
Tu te laveras les mains avant de passer à table.En fin de repas tu te saisiras de ton orange...La peau de l'orange maintes fois manipulée peut contenir le virus qui passera dans ta main que tu ne manqueras pas de porter à ton visage ou même à ta bouche par inadvertance et te voilà contaminé.
Merci.Djalma, c'est bien parce que je sais ça que je cherche une solution.
J'ai testé à midi ma nouvelle méthode (je ne résiste pas à une orange bien sucrée). Pas facile de la couper en deux sans que le couteau n'emmène l'éventuel virus de la surface de la peau jusque vers la pulpe. Il faudrait un gros couteau de boucher très bien aiguisé pour la couper en un instant.
S'il y a un chimiste dans la salle, il pourrait me dire si un virus peut durer longtemps sur la surface acide de cette peau....dans quel cas, en les laissant quelques heures et en les lavant bien, ça devrait suffire (pour l'instant, j'ai pris le risque, j'aime trop les oranges).
S'il y a un chimiste dans la salle, il pourrait me dire si un virus peut durer longtemps sur la surface acide de cette peau....dans quel cas, en les laissant quelques heures et en les lavant bien, ça devrait suffire (pour l'instant, j'ai pris le risque, j'aime trop les oranges).
Fais tremper tes fruits et légumes 5 minutes dans de l'eau avec une cuillère de bicarbonate de soude ou de permanganate de potassium
Fais tremper tes fruits et légumes 5 minutes dans de l'eau avec une cuillère de bicarbonate de soude ou de permanganate de potassium
S'il y a un chimiste dans la salle, il pourrait me dire si un virus peut durer longtemps sur la surface acide de cette peau....dans quel cas, en les laissant quelques heures et en les lavant bien, ça devrait suffire (pour l'instant, j'ai pris le risque, j'aime trop les oranges).
Achetez-les sous plastique si vraiment vous avez peur.
Michel
Achetez-les sous plastique si vraiment vous avez peur.
Michel
En fait passer les fruits et légumes sous l'eau devrait suffire mais ayant connu des expatriés qui vivaient au Cameroun j'opterais pour leur solution: Ceux ci avaient l'habitude de laver ainsi ( avec du permanganate de potassium) les fruits et légumes.C'était une façon de désinfecter fruits légumes salades etc.. Elle était très répandue dans toute l'Afrique francophone...
Même s'il a plein d'usages et d'excellentes qualités, le bicarbonate est tout à fait insuffisant pour désinfecter. C'est pareil pour le vinaigre blanc. Deux bons produits mais qui sont loins d'être parfaits comme désinfectants.
Si tu veux réellement désinfecter tes fruits, comme on ne mange pas la peau des oranges, fais-les tremper quelques minutes dans de l'eau additionnée d'eau de Javel. Là, c'est efficace (je sais; ce n'est pas du tout écologique).
Ensuite, il te suffit de bien rincer tes oranges à l'eau courante avant de les manger.
Pour les fruits et légumes qu'on n'épluche pas, évidemment, la Javel n'est pas une option !
Ca tourne aux tocs tout ca...
En ce qui me concerne, je ne passe pas mes oranges (qui viennent de Sicile) à la Javel.
Mais vu les infos très réjouissantes qui n'arrêtent pas de tomber, je comprends que certaines personnes puissent être inquiètes dans le contexte actuel. Et je ne reprocherai à personne d'être trop prudent !
Ce n est pas pour toi que je dis ça. Mais je t assure que quand tu tombes sur cette discussion de lavage d orange c est complètement surréaliste.
Apres si 9n veut s en rajouter dans l angoisse ca peut servir de lectures du soir.
Faut qu elle sef asse cuire des compotes la ptite dame. Elle flippera moins.
Bon courage
Bonjour,
Tremper mes fruits dans du chlore...non.quand même...je préfère ne pas en manger.
Mais je viens de faire une petite recherche sur le bicarbonate de soude. Pas un désinfectant, bien sûr, mais il a une action mécanique en décrochant les impuretés. Donc, le principe est ensuite de bien rincer, et si petits organismes il y a, ils devraient donc partir plus facilement avec l'eau du rinçage.
Mais je t assure que quand tu tombes sur cette discussion de lavage d orange c est complètement surréaliste.
Oui, dans un forum consacré au voyage, c'est un peu surréaliste, de fait ! 🙂
Oui, dans un forum consacré au voyage, c'est un peu surréaliste, de fait ! 🙂
Ce n est pas pour toi que je dis ça. Mais je t assure que quand tu tombes sur cette discussion de lavage d orange c est complètement surréaliste.
Apres si 9n veut s en rajouter dans l angoisse ca peut servir de lectures du soir.
Faut qu elle sef asse cuire des compotes la ptite dame. Elle flippera moins.
Bon courage
Toujours dans la petite leçon Cambrousse, mais je ne dois pas être le seul.à me poser ce genre de questions par les temps qui courent. Rien de phobique là dedans, ça ne m'empêche pas de manger des oranges tous les jours. Tu sais, l'autre jour chez mon marchand de légumes, j'ai trouvé au milieu des courgettes que j'étais en train d'acheter un gros résidu organique qui devait venir de quelqu'un qui n'avait pas retenu un éternument. Sans être parano (ça ne m'a pas empêché de me régaler des courgettes) on peut-être un peu réaliste et prudent.
Toujours dans la petite leçon Cambrousse, mais je ne dois pas être le seul.à me poser ce genre de questions par les temps qui courent. Rien de phobique là dedans, ça ne m'empêche pas de manger des oranges tous les jours. Tu sais, l'autre jour chez mon marchand de légumes, j'ai trouvé au milieu des courgettes que j'étais en train d'acheter un gros résidu organique qui devait venir de quelqu'un qui n'avait pas retenu un éternument. Sans être parano (ça ne m'a pas empêché de me régaler des courgettes) on peut-être un peu réaliste et prudent.
Et maintenant on a droit aux glaviot dans les légumes... ça s arrange. Allez bon vent...
Bien désolé hein pour ces considérations bassement matérielles.
Il y a 3 milliards d'êtres humains confinés, et qui doivent donc s'adapter corporellement aux conditions de propagation du virus, sous l'autorité de gouvernements.
A côté de ça, je trouve qu'il y a peu d'informations pratiques et précises.
Je trouve l'idée de l'initiateur de ce topic d'échanges pratiques assez bienvenues.
Sur un.forum.de voyage, malvenu ?
Mais le monde entier est actuellement arrêté sur ce sujet.
Sur un forum de voyages, on peut avoir des témoignages comme celui de Djalma plus haut, que je trouve très utile.
Bien désolé hein pour ces considérations bassement matérielles.
Il y a 3 milliards d'êtres humains confinés, et qui doivent donc s'adapter corporellement aux conditions de propagation du virus, sous l'autorité de gouvernements.
A côté de ça, je trouve qu'il y a peu d'informations pratiques et précises.
Je trouve l'idée de l'initiateur de ce topic d'échanges pratiques assez bienvenues.
Sur un.forum.de voyage, malvenu ?
Mais le monde entier est actuellement arrêté sur ce sujet.
Sur un forum de voyages, on peut avoir des témoignages comme celui de Djalma plus haut, que je trouve très utile.
Apparemment le virus survit des heures ou des jours selon la surface. Je prends aussi des précautions. Pour les fruits, surtout des pommes cuites. Bananes pelées sans contaminer la partie comestible. Désinfection à l'eau de javel des poignées de porte, de interrupteurs et des robinets. En fait, ce sont les mêmes précautions que dans un pays où l'hygiène est mauvaise. Avec en plus un virus très contagieux. Quand on a l'habitude de vivre dans un pays où quasiment tout est stérilisé il faut s'adapter rapidement. A l'étranger on a l'habitude de faire attention. Pas à la maison. Pour les sarcasmes. Si j'avais écrit un message pendant les bombardements de la 2 guerre mondiale sur la construction d'une tranchée, les mêmes auraient ricané en expliquant que c'est idiot d'écrire le mot tranchée. Ils auraient aussi chouiné parce que ça les empêchait d'aller en weekend à Cabourg. Etcetera. Etcetera.
Apparemment le virus survit des heures ou des jours selon la surface. Je prends aussi des précautions. Pour les fruits, surtout des pommes cuites. Bananes pelées sans contaminer la partie comestible. Désinfection à l'eau de javel des poignées de porte, de interrupteurs et des robinets. En fait, ce sont les mêmes précautions que dans un pays où l'hygiène est mauvaise. Avec en plus un virus très contagieux. Quand on a l'habitude de vivre dans un pays où quasiment tout est stérilisé il faut s'adapter rapidement. A l'étranger on a l'habitude de faire attention. Pas à la maison. Pour les sarcasmes. Si j'avais écrit un message pendant les bombardements de la 2 guerre mondiale sur la construction d'une tranchée, les mêmes auraient ricané en expliquant que c'est idiot d'écrire le mot tranchée. Ils auraient aussi chouiné parce que ça les empêchait d'aller en weekend à Cabourg. Etcetera. Etcetera.
Bonjour,
Si vous êtes confiné chez vous, je ne vois pas à quoi vous sert de désinfecter les interrupteurs ou les boutons de ci ou ça. Dans les lieux où il y a du passage, bien sûr. Attention, à tout aseptiser vous allez aussi au devant de sérieux soucis de santé...
Apparemment le virus survit des heures ou des jours selon la surface. Je prends aussi des précautions. Pour les fruits, surtout des pommes cuites. Bananes pelées sans contaminer la partie comestible. Désinfection à l'eau de javel des poignées de porte, de interrupteurs et des robinets. En fait, ce sont les mêmes précautions que dans un pays où l'hygiène est mauvaise. Avec en plus un virus très contagieux. Quand on a l'habitude de vivre dans un pays où quasiment tout est stérilisé il faut s'adapter rapidement. A l'étranger on a l'habitude de faire attention. Pas à la maison. Pour les sarcasmes. Si j'avais écrit un message pendant les bombardements de la 2 guerre mondiale sur la construction d'une tranchée, les mêmes auraient ricané en expliquant que c'est idiot d'écrire le mot tranchée. Ils auraient aussi chouiné parce que ça les empêchait d'aller en weekend à Cabourg. Etcetera. Etcetera.
Michel
Si vous êtes confiné chez vous, je ne vois pas à quoi vous sert de désinfecter les interrupteurs ou les boutons de ci ou ça. Dans les lieux où il y a du passage, bien sûr. Attention, à tout aseptiser vous allez aussi au devant de sérieux soucis de santé...
Apparemment le virus survit des heures ou des jours selon la surface. Je prends aussi des précautions. Pour les fruits, surtout des pommes cuites. Bananes pelées sans contaminer la partie comestible. Désinfection à l'eau de javel des poignées de porte, de interrupteurs et des robinets. En fait, ce sont les mêmes précautions que dans un pays où l'hygiène est mauvaise. Avec en plus un virus très contagieux. Quand on a l'habitude de vivre dans un pays où quasiment tout est stérilisé il faut s'adapter rapidement. A l'étranger on a l'habitude de faire attention. Pas à la maison. Pour les sarcasmes. Si j'avais écrit un message pendant les bombardements de la 2 guerre mondiale sur la construction d'une tranchée, les mêmes auraient ricané en expliquant que c'est idiot d'écrire le mot tranchée. Ils auraient aussi chouiné parce que ça les empêchait d'aller en weekend à Cabourg. Etcetera. Etcetera.
Michel
En allant faire des courses, on ramène la bestiole. On touche les poignées de porte et les robinets en revenant. Donc désinfection.
Je veux bien faire attention et pas tout aseptiser. Mais je ne sais pas encore trier les bestioles. Peut-être que les très malins de ce site vont m'expliquer.
En allant faire des courses, on ramène la bestiole. On touche les poignées de porte et les robinets en revenant. Donc désinfection.
Personnellement je pose les courses, je les range, et je me lave les mains. Avant d'être allé toucher tous les interrupteurs de la - au demeurant très petite - maison.
Je veux bien faire attention et pas tout aseptiser. Mais je ne sais pas encore trier les bestioles. Peut-être que les très malins de ce site vont m'expliquer.
Le plus dur ce sera de cesser de procéder ainsi... Dans un mois ? Dans un an ? Dans dix ans ?
Michel
Personnellement je pose les courses, je les range, et je me lave les mains. Avant d'être allé toucher tous les interrupteurs de la - au demeurant très petite - maison.
Je veux bien faire attention et pas tout aseptiser. Mais je ne sais pas encore trier les bestioles. Peut-être que les très malins de ce site vont m'expliquer.
Le plus dur ce sera de cesser de procéder ainsi... Dans un mois ? Dans un an ? Dans dix ans ?
Michel
Attention, à tout aseptiser vous allez aussi au devant de sérieux soucis de santé...
C'est aussi ce que j'aurais dit en temps normal...J'ai remarqué à maintes reprises que les personnes qui ( selon mes critères) suivaient des conditions d'hygiène drastiques dans leur vie quotidienne étaient plus souvent malade que les autres.. J'ai pu le remarquer aussi bien en voyage sous les tropiques que chez nous en France.Il en va tout autrement dans un hopital et tout particulièrement sur une table d'opération. Là un maximum de précautions sont prises en matière de désinfection.Le moindre écart peut entrainer une catastrophe pour le patient. Il me parait utile actuellement d'être très vigilant concernant les précautions à prendre en matière d'hygiène et prendre conscience que ce qu'on touche à l'extérieur de chez soi dans un lieu public peut être infecté par le virus.C'est essentiellement par le contact manuel que se propage la maladie. Je suis d'accord avec toi quand tu dis qu'après l'épidémie il faudra se débarrasser de ces habitudes. Vivre en milieu aseptisé ne sera pas une bonne chose.
C'est aussi ce que j'aurais dit en temps normal...J'ai remarqué à maintes reprises que les personnes qui ( selon mes critères) suivaient des conditions d'hygiène drastiques dans leur vie quotidienne étaient plus souvent malade que les autres.. J'ai pu le remarquer aussi bien en voyage sous les tropiques que chez nous en France.Il en va tout autrement dans un hopital et tout particulièrement sur une table d'opération. Là un maximum de précautions sont prises en matière de désinfection.Le moindre écart peut entrainer une catastrophe pour le patient. Il me parait utile actuellement d'être très vigilant concernant les précautions à prendre en matière d'hygiène et prendre conscience que ce qu'on touche à l'extérieur de chez soi dans un lieu public peut être infecté par le virus.C'est essentiellement par le contact manuel que se propage la maladie. Je suis d'accord avec toi quand tu dis qu'après l'épidémie il faudra se débarrasser de ces habitudes. Vivre en milieu aseptisé ne sera pas une bonne chose.
Même s'il a plein d'usages et d'excellentes qualités, le bicarbonate est tout à fait insuffisant pour désinfecter. C'est pareil pour le vinaigre blanc. Deux bons produits mais qui sont loins d'être parfaits comme désinfectants.
Si tu veux réellement désinfecter tes fruits, comme on ne mange pas la peau des oranges, fais-les tremper quelques minutes dans de l'eau additionnée d'eau de Javel. Là, c'est efficace (je sais; ce n'est pas du tout écologique).
Ensuite, il te suffit de bien rincer tes oranges à l'eau courante avant de les manger.
Pour les fruits et légumes qu'on n'épluche pas, évidemment, la Javel n'est pas une option !
Tremper les fruits dans l'eau vinaigrée me parait quand même plus judicieux que dans l'eau de javel....c'est de l'alcool...perso je ne les rince pas;....
Tremper les fruits dans l'eau vinaigrée me parait quand même plus judicieux que dans l'eau de javel....c'est de l'alcool...perso je ne les rince pas;....
On peut aussi essayer une bonne eau de vie pour rincer les fruits , comme le maire du village de Mayac en Dordogne qui a rempli des pulvérisateurs d’eau de vie de prune pour que les électeurs puissent se désinfecter les mains au bureau de vote ( a défaut de gel on s’adapte) ....
J’adhère à cette méthode 😎😎😎
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Hier aux infos régionales, une vétérinaire lançait une alerte au sujet de nombreux chats et chiens qu'elle retrouve en coma éthylique à son cabinet, désinfectés au gel hydroalcoolique, ou brulés à cause du chlore dont on les a frictionné.
Donc, vaut mieux faire tremper ses animaux de compagnie dans du bicarbonate, et bien les rincer (je précise que cette dernière phrase est une blague).
Pour le vinaigre, d'après ce qu'on dit, c'est que ça ne serait pas assez alcoolisé. L'effet du bicarbonate est mécanique, comme le savon, alors il faut rincer après.
Donc, vaut mieux faire tremper ses animaux de compagnie dans du bicarbonate, et bien les rincer (je précise que cette dernière phrase est une blague).
Pour le vinaigre, d'après ce qu'on dit, c'est que ça ne serait pas assez alcoolisé. L'effet du bicarbonate est mécanique, comme le savon, alors il faut rincer après.
On peut aussi écouter ou lire la lettre d'Annie Ernaux à notre président...
Pas très utile pour les précautions à prendre mais pour remettre les choses en place concernant la soit disant guerre...
https://www.franceinter.fr/emissions/lettres-d-interieur/lettres-d-interieur-30-mars-2020
Très belle lettre , j’ajouterais comme certains copains de la santé :
« Nous sommes en guerre , mais nous n’avons que des balles à blanc » .....
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Même s'il a plein d'usages et d'excellentes qualités, le bicarbonate est tout à fait insuffisant pour désinfecter. C'est pareil pour le vinaigre blanc. Deux bons produits mais qui sont loins d'être parfaits comme désinfectants.
Si tu veux réellement désinfecter tes fruits, comme on ne mange pas la peau des oranges, fais-les tremper quelques minutes dans de l'eau additionnée d'eau de Javel. Là, c'est efficace (je sais; ce n'est pas du tout écologique).
Ensuite, il te suffit de bien rincer tes oranges à l'eau courante avant de les manger.
Pour les fruits et légumes qu'on n'épluche pas, évidemment, la Javel n'est pas une option !
Tremper les fruits dans l'eau vinaigrée me parait quand même plus judicieux que dans l'eau de javel....c'est de l'alcool...perso je ne les rince pas;....
Aucune instance médicale ne dit que le vinaigre est efficace contre le covid (le vinaigre d'alcool n'est pas de l'alcool). L'alcool, oui! C'est efficace. Mais il faut qu'il fasse 60 degré au minimum. Difficile de trouver dans le commerce de la prune, du pastis ou du wisky à plus de 60°. Pour ceux qui en ont. Une recette. Faire couler la bibine sur le fruit au dessus d'un récipient. Le fruit est désinfecté. Manger le fruit. Puis boire cul sec l'alcool recueilli dans le récipient. Si tu as un coup de chaud, pas la peine d'appeler les secours. Ce n'est pas le Corona! Et bonne nuit!
Tremper les fruits dans l'eau vinaigrée me parait quand même plus judicieux que dans l'eau de javel....c'est de l'alcool...perso je ne les rince pas;....
Aucune instance médicale ne dit que le vinaigre est efficace contre le covid (le vinaigre d'alcool n'est pas de l'alcool). L'alcool, oui! C'est efficace. Mais il faut qu'il fasse 60 degré au minimum. Difficile de trouver dans le commerce de la prune, du pastis ou du wisky à plus de 60°. Pour ceux qui en ont. Une recette. Faire couler la bibine sur le fruit au dessus d'un récipient. Le fruit est désinfecté. Manger le fruit. Puis boire cul sec l'alcool recueilli dans le récipient. Si tu as un coup de chaud, pas la peine d'appeler les secours. Ce n'est pas le Corona! Et bonne nuit!
On peut aussi essayer une bonne eau de vie pour rincer les fruits,
Quel gâchis! vaux mieux la boire quand même!😏
Quel gâchis! vaux mieux la boire quand même!😏
Une recette. Faire couler la bibine sur le fruit au dessus d'un récipient. Le fruit est désinfecté. Manger le fruit. Puis boire cul sec l'alcool recueilli dans le récipient. Si tu as un coup de chaud, pas la peine d'appeler les secours. Ce n'est pas le Corona! Et bonne nuit!
Boire l'alcool qui aura bien recueilli tous les bons pesticides dont nos fruits sont abondamment aspergés, non merci ! Très peu pour moi ! 🙁
Boire l'alcool qui aura bien recueilli tous les bons pesticides dont nos fruits sont abondamment aspergés, non merci ! Très peu pour moi ! 🙁
Une recette. Faire couler la bibine sur le fruit au dessus d'un récipient. Le fruit est désinfecté. Manger le fruit. Puis boire cul sec l'alcool recueilli dans le récipient. Si tu as un coup de chaud, pas la peine d'appeler les secours. Ce n'est pas le Corona! Et bonne nuit!
Boire l'alcool qui aura bien recueilli tous les bons pesticides dont nos fruits sont abondamment aspergés, non merci ! Très peu pour moi ! 🙁
Tu prends des fruits bio, de l'alcool de prune fait avec des prunes bio. Tu récites un ave et trois gretras. Et le tour est joué. Tu as une cirrhose mais une cirrhose bio. Le bonhomme et la planète sont sauvés!
Boire l'alcool qui aura bien recueilli tous les bons pesticides dont nos fruits sont abondamment aspergés, non merci ! Très peu pour moi ! 🙁
Tu prends des fruits bio, de l'alcool de prune fait avec des prunes bio. Tu récites un ave et trois gretras. Et le tour est joué. Tu as une cirrhose mais une cirrhose bio. Le bonhomme et la planète sont sauvés!
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Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?
A few years ago, I went with a group of friends to lend a hand at a small rural school near Thiès, Senegal.
It was a relaxed but hardworking atmosphere—hands in the mortar, laughter, exchanges, and everything that a COOPERATION project can bring.
Today, the little project is flying on its own.
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?
Hi everyone.
I’ve been wondering: Is it still reasonable to rent a car in the U.S.?
Apparently, since early January 2025—and very quietly—the most important insurance coverage, namely the driver’s civil liability, has seen its coverage amount drop from $1 million to just $300,000. This coverage is supposed to protect us from damages we might be responsible for while driving. We can go decades without a single scrape (especially if it’s our fault), but anything can happen in a split second. A motorcycle appearing out of nowhere, a misjudgment at one of those huge intersections with staggered traffic lights, and suddenly we could be deemed at fault for the accident. We’d then have to pay out of pocket for the other party’s medical expenses. Given what hospitals charge... it can easily exceed $300,000 and turn into a nightmare in no time!!! Plus, anyone who’s driven on American roads has seen those billboards for lawyers offering their services to accident victims. So on top of the sky-high medical bill, the lawyer will demand compensation worthy of a Hollywood movie!!!! So, is it even worth getting behind the wheel in America anymore? Well... that’s just my take! And on top of that, I haven’t found any insurance company that offers such high civil liability coverage. Chapka and others do offer coverage in the millions, but motor vehicles are excluded.... So here’s the thing... Unless I’ve "missed something," I’ve come to this conclusion: Renting a car in the U.S. is like playing Russian roulette! But maybe I’m being too pessimistic? What do you think?
I’ve been wondering: Is it still reasonable to rent a car in the U.S.?
Apparently, since early January 2025—and very quietly—the most important insurance coverage, namely the driver’s civil liability, has seen its coverage amount drop from $1 million to just $300,000. This coverage is supposed to protect us from damages we might be responsible for while driving. We can go decades without a single scrape (especially if it’s our fault), but anything can happen in a split second. A motorcycle appearing out of nowhere, a misjudgment at one of those huge intersections with staggered traffic lights, and suddenly we could be deemed at fault for the accident. We’d then have to pay out of pocket for the other party’s medical expenses. Given what hospitals charge... it can easily exceed $300,000 and turn into a nightmare in no time!!! Plus, anyone who’s driven on American roads has seen those billboards for lawyers offering their services to accident victims. So on top of the sky-high medical bill, the lawyer will demand compensation worthy of a Hollywood movie!!!! So, is it even worth getting behind the wheel in America anymore? Well... that’s just my take! And on top of that, I haven’t found any insurance company that offers such high civil liability coverage. Chapka and others do offer coverage in the millions, but motor vehicles are excluded.... So here’s the thing... Unless I’ve "missed something," I’ve come to this conclusion: Renting a car in the U.S. is like playing Russian roulette! But maybe I’m being too pessimistic? What do you think?
My two bullfighting traditions when I'm back home in Camargue (France) and in Colombia (Caribbean) every time I return. 🤠
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Bullfights (corridas) aren’t part of my two bullfighting traditions, but I respect those who attend them!!!
In these two ancestral bullfighting traditions—which aren’t bullfights—the Bulls and Toros aren’t killed or tortured, as some might think.
These are bull games where the animals return to their pastures afterward and only come back to the Arenas 2–3 times a year at most.
They spend 15 minutes in the ring for the Camarguais and 5 minutes for the Toros in the Colombian Corralejas.
They’re cared for and pampered. They’ll die of old age in miles of open fields.
The young people who face them are professionals, risking their lives to support their families and live their Passion for the Toro!!! 😄
https://youtu.be/yYKQer42HoQ
Colombian Corraleja in the link below (hope it works) 🤪
https://fb.watch/BMfmuCgQpG/