Je souhaite partir en Guadeloupe pour 15 jours environ, soit janvier soit fevrier, j'hesite encore... on m'a dit qu'il y plus de soleil en fevrier et que le soleil est plus present aussi... je suis preneuse de conseils...
Bref, c'est mon 1er voyage dans les antilles. S'il y a des personnes qui partent a ces dates-la, ca pourrait etre sympa de faire un bout de chemin ensemble.
Bonjour IzaA,
Effectivement, il y a une petite différence dans les longueurs de journée durant l'année, le max. étant en juin et le mini. en décembre.
Pour le temps, janvier et février sont très semblables et, dans les années normales, ne présentent que très peu de pluies mais note que même quand il pleut, ce sont surtout des averses torrentielles et courtes et que la température ne chute pas.
As-tu déjà choisi le lieu où tu souhaites séjourner ? et quel style de vacances tu recherches ? quel type d'hébergement ?
Cela nous aidera à te conseiller.
Bienvenue !
Nicole
Coucou bah moi je part avec ma moitier en Février Le 09 pour etre precis pour 15 jours ! Je redoute un peu ce voyage pour une seul raison: L'avion !!!! D'apres ce que je peut lire partout l'avion 777300 n'est pas confortable ! A la limite c'est pas un soucis mais bon je mesure quand même 1m98 donc voila pendant 8h j'ai pas envi d'avoir mes jambes au niveau du cou !!! lol
Entre janvier et février, il y a en principe peu de différence question climat, quoique ces dernières années janvier a été plus pluvieux que la moyenne.
Si vous pouvez, évites la période des vacances scolaires - summum de la saison.
Question durée du jour, nous sommes en hémisphère nord, donc les jours les plus courts sont en décembre et les plus longs en juin.
C'est vrai que tu n'auras pas trop de place pour tes jambes, je suis revenue de Guadeloupe le mois dernier sur un 777 300 et mon voisin de siege qui était aussi tres grand avait quelques problèmes, mais je te conseille de prendre un siege coté allée tu seras plus à l'aise, sur les long-courrier on a jamais plus de place en tout cas en eco.
Tu as aussi quelques places où tu pourras caser tes jambes plus facilement mais elles sont prises d'assaut aux reservations et bientôt tu paieras 50€ de plus ce qui est completement absurde.
Pensant que les avions etaient quand même avec un minimum de confort lors de ma resa des billets air france dejaq pris mes numero de place ! Donc tant pis je verrai une das l'avion si y moyen ou non de changer
Pensant que les avions etaient quand même avec un minimum de confort lors de ma resa des billets air france dejaq pris mes numero de place ! Donc tant pis je verrai une das l'avion si y moyen ou non de changer
réservation faite via le net ?
no problem pour changer les places
il suffit avec les codes d'aller visualiser l'appareil et de changer les places avec d'autres encore vacantes
Le soucis est que en entrant mes codes sur le site air france ca ne marche pas ! Et de plus il ne reste plus grand choix au niveau des places ! En fait le truc c que même si je ne peut pas allonger mes jambes c pas super grave mais qu'au moin vu ma grandeur que je soit un minimum a l'aise
Bonjour,
Janvier ou février c'est idem, c'est la saison sèche, il fait nuit vers 18h et jour vers 6h du matin, donc midi pour nous !!! on se réveille de bonne heure en général.
En février on peut admirer le carnaval qui est magnifique.
Bon voyage
@+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
Merci pour vos reponses.
J ai lu sur internet que le carnaval commence en janvier, est ce le cas?
au niveau du style de vacances que je recherches, c'est de pouvoir faire des ballades pour decouvrir les differents lieux, la Nature, mais aussi de "baigner" dans la vie locale quotidienne, simplement, decourvrir.
au niveau de l'hébergement, que conseillez-vous? des hotels? des chambres d'hotes? ou bien aussi, est ce qu'il y a des lieux que vous deconseiller?
A bientot,
Iza
Bonjour, suite de vos discutions, puis je savoir quand débute la saison d'été en guadeloupe? ici, c'est en Mai, mais à la Gwada, je ne sais pas du tout, or, j'aimerai m'y rendre (ou du moins y ^petre?!) quand les journées sont plus longues?
Je devais partir ce mois ci, mais suite à des factures importantes non prévues, j'ai dû reporter mon voyage, d'où mes questions?!
Connais tu bien (aussi bien que la Guadeloupe!!) la Republique Dominiquaine? car à part la Gwada, je dois AUSSI aller voir en République Dominiquaine, puisque c'est dans le but d'y travailler qques mois (je me partagerai entre les îles et mon pays NATAL> BELGIQUE, pour des raisons de santé (trop de froid chez moi, et dois faire des essais au CHAUD, afin de savoir où je m'y sens le mieux, pour pouvoir prolonger mon existence ici bas (défense de rire, c'est la stricte vérité!!).J'ai déjà des offres aux 2 îles, mais je ne sais pas laquelle est la mieux adaptée à mon "cas"(si je puis dire!!)
Je suis persuadé que cet écrit va en faire sourire plus d'un, et cependant je peux vous assurer que c'est loin (très loin!!) d'être agréable de vivre ainsi!SI j'étais "plein aux as", cela serait plus simple (j'achèterai une maison sur l'île, et serait en vacance !), mais...LOIN D ETRE LE CAS!!
Bonsoir,
Pourquoi pas passer la saison froide en Europe au chaud aux Antilles, c'est idéal pour les douleurs effectivement, c'est mieux que les cures thermales !!!!
Sur ce lien quelques infos sur les empératures:
http://www.aux-antilles.fr/antilles-infos-pratiques--climat-saisons.htm
La saison sèche est de décembre à avril environ et le jour est pratiquement de même durée que la nuit de 18h à 6 h le matin.
Je ne connais pas la République Dominiquaine, mais elle est n'est pas loin, donc à peu près pareil probablement.
Par contre pour trouver du travail, c'est une autre histoire, beaucoup viennent en France travailler avec la fraicheur !!!
Bonne soirée.
@+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
merci de ta réponse, mais, SI je capte bien, entre l'été et l'hiver, il n'y a pas de différence des heures alors? ou, tu me donnes juste les heures nocturnes d'hiver là? expliques un peu, tu veux bien?
TOI, ... en tant que connaisseurs, quelle île me conseillerais tu, afin d'avoir assez chaud, mais pas à l 'excès tout de même, où j'ai possibilités d'être près de la mer, et que j'aie pur travailler (black ou clean?!) Pour rappel, j'ai une expérience tel qui me permettrait de me mettre à mon compte, mais non désireux de le faire trop vite, je préfère attendre un peu, que je connaisse un peu plus l'endroit où je serai?!
Préfères tu que je te contacte en privé par hazard?ou si tu l'as, par MSN?
J'ai réellement besoin de conseil SERIEUX, or, il me semble qu'à nos âges, entre adulte responsable, mûr, nous pouvons être sur la même longueur d'ondes, non?
J'attends ta réponse, ok? bonne fin de journée à toi.........
Les heures que je donne sont celles que j'ai vécu lors de mon séjour en janvier/février, mais comme c'est assez près de l'équateur y a pas beaucoup d'écart entre l'été et l'hiver peut être 1h.
Des internautes de Guadeloupe te donneront plus de détail.
Question chaleur tu trouveras qu'il en fait assez et tu chercheras l'ombre !!! 30° à l'ombre c'est pas mal, en Belgique tu ne les a pas tous les jours.
Tu devrais déjà faire un petit séjour en touriste pour te rendre compte que tu auras vite fait le tour de l'île et au bout de quelques mois tu te trouveras à l'étroit, y a une route qui fait le tour de Basse-Terre et une qui traverse (appelée traversée).
Question travail à voir sur place, mais je vois pas beaucoup de débouché, les autochtones ont du mal à travailler et ont un pourcentage important de RMIste.
Voila je ne connais pas vraiment, je ne suis allé qu'en vacance en louant une voiture.
Je pense que tu auras une réponse d'un Guadeloupéen qui te guidera mieux que moi.
@+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
Je te remercie bcp, je vais effectivement appronfondir un tantinet, quoi que j'aie déjà pas mal de contact chez eux ?! Mais je voulait avoir aussi avoir l'avis de ...l'extérieur, tout simplement, ais je eu tort?
Je vais jeter un œil sur ton site et voir tes photos+ commentaires...
😉 Bonsoir.
pas de changement d'heure ici
Bonne temperature pour les vieux os, et surtout on ne finit jamais de découvrir cette merveilleuse ile, on est loin d'être a l'étroit.
Suis ton idée, et viens faire un tour en Guadeloupe, j'y suis depuis plus de 4 ans et je m'y sens bien, j'ai même fait des adeptes dans ma famille qui sont venus me rejoindre
Pour le boulot tout depend dans quel branche, mais yen a si on veux se donner la peine de chercher.
Alors a bientôt
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Hi,
I’m heading to Miches for the first time in November 2026 (no all-inclusive)
I’d love some tips to plan my stay—accommodation, things to do, places of interest nearby.
Is it possible to rent a scooter there to get around the area?
Thanks for your help!
Best,
hi there, I’ve never been to Martinique. my girlfriend, who’s of Martinican origin, has never had the chance to go either (life isn’t always easy). now we can plan a little trip, but we don’t know which airline to choose or how to find accommodation.
basically, I need quite a few tips.
we’re planning to go in September—no chance before that.
Hi! We spent 10 wonderful days in Guadeloupe’s gorgeous climate. Our arrival got off to a shaky start, though—our suitcase was left behind at the airport, which caused quite a stir. A police officer was shouting at us to get out and cross the street. Then, a taxi driver refused to take us after we showed him where we were staying, right by the port in Pointe-à-Pitre. "No one goes there," he told us! Good thing we arrived during Carnival! A second driver finally agreed to take us, and I can say he knew every nook and cranny of his city.
The rest of the trip was amazing. The locals were smiling and welcoming. We didn’t rent a car, so we didn’t get around much and stayed in the Deshaies area—a real favorite. Plage de la Perle (Pearl Beach) truly lives up to its name! We liked Grande Anse Beach less because of the steep slope, which made walking tricky, and the waves were pretty intense. The landscapes in this part of the island are idyllic. We visited the botanical garden—it’s worth it—and went to the port in Deshaies. If we ever go back, we’ll rent a vehicle so we can explore more, because taxis aren’t cheap!
Hi, I’m leaving soon for Punta Cana—what kind of money should we bring: Canadian dollars, US dollars, or are we forced to exchange once we arrive?
Thanks
We spent 15 days in the Exumas from March 10th to 26th.
I should mention that we’ve been traveling to islands for 20 years, so we have points of comparison when it comes to prices, hospitality, and landscapes.
First, the flights: we now live in the Luberon, so we flew out of Marseille. We took British Airways, which we’ve used several times before for trips to the English-speaking Caribbean and which offers flights via Heathrow. We had an overnight layover in London on the way out, then a flight to Nassau. After that, we took a connecting flight (we had a 2h20 layover in Nassau, which was more than enough) to George Town with Sky Bahamas. We had initially ruled out Bahamasair based on very negative reviews.
Immigration and customs were very quick.
When we arrived, we took a taxi to our hotel, Augusta Bay. Cost: $30.
We rented a car through Sure and Shore. It was delivered to our hotel the day after we arrived, and we kept it until we left for Stocking Island. For 9 days, we paid $470 (which is a great price) for a small Honda that wasn’t very new, but we didn’t have any issues with it. One thing we’d never experienced before: they’d put newspaper sheets on the floor, and we were told not to get any sand in the car if we went to the beach!
We stayed 5 nights at Augusta Bay. A 5-minute walk away is the beautiful, uncrowded Jolly Beach, perfect for swimming. We visited the southern part of the island to see the beaches of Little Exuma, especially Tropic of Cancer Beach and the one next to Santana’s restaurant. We also went to Hopper Bay Beach, where you can see a group of about ten turtles near a small boat dock. We went kayaking from the hotel.
Then we stayed at Paradise Bay in the north. While we hadn’t encountered the sandfly problem before, here it’s important to know that the beach is infested with them. The hotel’s restaurant, which is very good otherwise, even provides repellent for guests— that’s how bad it is!
From there, we visited Coco Plum Beach, Three Sisters Beach (where you can snorkel), and others. We also went kayaking again.
We ended our trip with 3 nights on Stocking Island at Saint Francis Resort. If we were to do it again, we’d spend 4 nights there. The island has many trails, snorkeling spots, and you can get around by kayak. We saw rays, turtles, and even a harmless shark, as well as some beautiful beaches. Plus, the welcome at Saint Francis was the warmest we experienced.
Be aware that everything is very expensive on the island—much more so than in the English-speaking Caribbean. Clearly, the purchasing power of Americans plays a role. They say everything is imported, but that’s the case on all islands!
Some places only accept cash or charge a 5% fee if you pay by card.
We didn’t find the locals particularly friendly. If you’ve been to Dominica or Grenada, for example, you’ll know what I mean.
We explored the whole island. The beaches are stunning, but the roads tell a different story. There are a lot of car wrecks—some houses have two or three in front of them, which really spoils the landscape. There are also many abandoned, ruined houses.
The vegetation is lush but not tropical, and you’ll be served apples and oranges for breakfast because there are very few exotic fruits.
As for the climate in March, there was no humid atmosphere, and the heat was very manageable (26°C). It was very pleasant. The seawater, however, is definitely cooler than in the Indian Ocean, for example.
There’s not much snorkeling, but we knew that before coming.
In conclusion: beautiful beaches, sand as fine as flour, and a very pleasant climate. But honestly, for the same cost, I’d prefer the Seychelles, for example.
Hi everyone,
I need your help!
We’re planning to visit Guadeloupe and take the opportunity to explore the islands La Désirade, Marie-Galante, and Les Saintes.
I initially planned to rent a car to get around the main island and then take the ferry from Trois-Rivières to Les Saintes, from Pointe-à-Pitre to Marie-Galante, and finally from Saint-François to La Désirade, following that route.
But when I look at it, the car would sit unused for at least 5 days—that’s paying for nothing🙁.
Is it possible to go from LES SAINTES to MARIE-GALANTE and then on to LA DÉSIRADE? We’d only rent a car once we arrive in Saint-François to continue exploring Guadeloupe. What do you think—is that doable?
This trip is planned for April.
Thanks so much for your help
Just a quick update on the state of this road: the unpaved section has been significantly improved. You can now complete the journey in about 4 to 4.5 hours instead of 6. Great news! For me, the most hazardous part is actually the paved section before and after Sagua. It encourages higher speeds, but there are deep, dangerous potholes that appear without warning. Be careful!
I’d also note that despite occasional power outages—which casas and paladares know how to handle—tourism remains perfectly doable. Cuba is still magical! I was just told, with a touch of humor, that the official German government website suggests bringing your own toilet paper and candles… Hmm, maybe an update on rechargeable gear would be in order…
Hi! We’re visiting Guadeloupe for the first time in January. We’re looking for accommodation near Deshaies to start our trip. A quiet spot, not too far from the sea so we can walk there. Any suggestions are welcome!
I’ve just returned from 15 days in Cuba and wanted to share my experience along with some practical tips for those planning a trip there.
1. Formalities:
- Passport valid for at least 6 months after your return.
- E-visa: apply online (payment by bank transfer only via the embassy of your choice): evisacuba.cu or through an agency novelacuba.com (card payment on their site—I had to go with this option and recommend it because the Cuban embassy in Brussels apparently never received my transfer...)
- Digital D’Viajeros form to fill out a few days before departure
- Mandatory health insurance
2. Currency/budget
- Plan your entire budget in cash; card payments are rare, and withdrawals at the official rate aren’t great.
Local currency: CUP (Cuban Peso)
Official rate: ~1 € = 120 CUP → state-run restaurants and shops.
Current unofficial rate: ~1 € = 490 CUP → private restaurants, local bars, Cuban-owned shops.
For exchanging money:
The easiest way: ask at your *casa particular* or a local restaurant.
3. My itinerary (15 days)
Havana: 3 nights
Viñales: 3 nights
Cienfuegos: 1 night
Trinidad: 3 nights
Varadero: 3 nights
Havana: 1 night
Flights: Air Europa from Brussels, with a layover in Madrid. Smooth and pleasant service.
Accommodations: *casas particulares* booked on Airbnb except for Varadero (Iberostar Playa Alameda hotel).
Practical tips
Install a VPN before departure (many blocked sites like Instagram and Airbnb).
Download the El Toque app to check the updated CUP exchange rate.
Internet via ETECSA SIM card (~30 € for 10 GB) or Wi-Fi in hotels/*casas*.
Download Maps.me for offline maps.
Intercity travel: shared taxi, Viazul bus, or private transfer through your *casa*.
Electricity: 110 V, sometimes 220 V.
Bring basic supplies and medications—hard to find there.
Cuba requires flexibility and openness: regular power outages, unstable internet (especially in Trinidad).
Finally, my personal take:
I loved my trip to Cuba! It’s a disorienting yet deeply charming country.
Poverty is visible, especially in Havana: crumbling buildings, many people asking for help (but no safety concerns!). Bringing some essentials for locals is a good idea (soap, toothpaste, medications, clothes...).
Cubans are incredibly welcoming and friendly. A few basics in Spanish help a lot! The vibe is unique: music in every street, musicians everywhere, salsa all around.
The variety of landscapes is amazing: colonial architecture, paradise beaches, mountains, waterfalls, lush valleys—you’ll never get bored.
Only downside: Varadero, less authentic than the rest of the country, but I expected that!
Overall, it was a wonderful trip, and I’d love to go back!
Hi,
Several comments recommend bringing mosquito repellent. Got it. Are there a lot of them during the day? And by the seaside? Or are they more present (and voracious) in the evening? Thanks.
I bought tickets for Martinique in April 2025 for 15 days, without really looking into what there was to do, and with the idea in my head that we could: hike, do water activities, swim, visit rum distilleries...
But... I’m worried I’ll get bored over 15 days and I’m considering maybe spending 1 week in Guadeloupe and 1 week in Martinique.
For example, I don’t know how to spend a whole afternoon at the beach. 2 hours, max.
I know it’s a personal question and depends on how you travel, but I’d love to hear your thoughts if you’ve done it:
- Did you feel too rushed?
- Is it reasonable to do?
- How much time would you spend on each island?
I’ve just returned from Havana after an 18-day stay from October 8th to 26th.
From Montreal, you have to go through Varadero Airport. I now break up the airport-to-Havana transfer with a SUPER pleasant stopover halfway, in the historic village of Hershey (Camilo Cienfuegos). Quebecer Anne-Marie has renovated a century-old house there, and every stay of mine feels like a peaceful oasis. Amazing food, a pool, impeccable hospitality—I highly recommend it! Casa Cub'Anita.
Life for Cubans remains just as tough, made even harder right now by tropical viruses spread by mosquitoes. It’s absolutely essential to protect yourself properly. That said, the purchasing power of foreign currency hasn’t changed much, despite skyrocketing inflation. As of today, the US dollar exchanges for nearly 500 pesos on the "informal market."
This was my first time staying in Vieja, in the non-touristy part. I discovered some great little restaurants run by the younger generation. Affordable, excellent food, and remarkably friendly service: El Chanchulero (it was about time I checked it out—unbeatable value for money!), El Café, Jibaro...
Cubans are still as warm and welcoming as ever—bicitaxis, servers, markets. Speaking the language is a huge plus.
Essentials to download from abroad before you leave: the maps.me offline maps app, and the La Nave taxi/motorcycle taxi app, which is super efficient for getting around the capital.
Sending my best to all my friends in Oriente as the hurricane passes, especially to Baracoa. I’m planning to visit this winter.
I’m planning a trip to Cuba this summer and I’d love some info: Is travel insurance really necessary? Can you easily get online by buying a local SIM card or internet card? Apparently, there’s only one currency now—is it better to exchange money with your *casa particular* host?
Thanks for all these valuable tips!
Hi!
I’m heading to Havana for a week in February. I’m looking for a casa particular that’s affordable, clean, and cozy. Since I’ll be traveling alone, I’d love a place where people are welcoming!
Also, I really want to stay in Habana Vieja...
Do you have any recommendations for places you’ve stayed before?
I tried booking the casa particular *Chez Nous*, but I never got a response.
Hi fellow travelers,
We're heading to Martinique for a month from mid-January to mid-February.
Our plan is to explore the island by staying in three different spots for 10 days each, on both sides of the island...
Could you share some great tips on where to stay for an authentic experience and what we absolutely must see?!
Hi there,
In March 2026 I’ll be at the Club Med in Sainte-Anne and I’m thinking of heading to Les Saintes at the end of my stay.
Do you know what the most convenient way to get there is?
Thanks so much!
Hi everyone.
For those traveling to Cuba and then planning to go to the USA, you won’t be able to get your ESTA for the United States (same applies) if you’ve been to Cuba after 2021 due to a law passed by Donald Trump (a law that Biden later repealed).
You’ll have no choice but to apply for a visa, which costs 200 € (and approval isn’t guaranteed even after payment).
If you’re in this situation, the process to get this visa will be a real hassle—you’ll need to book an appointment at the U.S. Embassy in Paris. It’s the only embassy in France authorized to handle your application after you’ve filled out the visa request on the official website.
If you try to cheat by applying for an ESTA for the USA, just know that the American administration has ways of finding out if you’ve been to Cuba. 😉
I'm looking for information on the islands of Puerto Rico, St. Barthélemy, and St. Martin for March 2026.
What is there to see, and if possible, prices or tips, please?
Thanks, Michel V.
I’ve booked a room at an all-inclusive in Varadero for January 2025. This will be my 3rd trip to Cuba, the last one was 20 years ago.
The whole tipping and gratuities thing is wearing me out. Even though it’s an all-inclusive package, I think it’d be rude not to leave any tips for the bar staff and the housekeeping team, especially.
Here’s what I’m aiming for:
1. Not feeling stingy (or “feeling cheap” for my fellow Quebecers);
2. Not disrespecting Cubans by offering junk or, on the flip side, going overboard and creating unrealistic expectations for future tourists;
3. And most importantly, not spending the whole week wondering if I’m doing the right thing. I’m going there to relax, not to stress!
Hi there,
I’m planning our upcoming trip to Guadeloupe. We’re looking for a place to stay where human contact is a priority, with air conditioning, close to the beaches, and clean.
We’ve had several responses. After doing some research online, I was able to rule out quite a few options.
But now I’m deciding between:
Kokoplaj, tipayoune (issue: no AC, just fans—is that a problem?), Résidence Le Zandoli, and Gwada Rêves.
If you have any info or experiences to share, I’d love to hear them! ;-)
Thanks for your help!
See you soon...
I’m heading to Blau Costa Verde next February and I’d like to rent a scooter to explore the area. Are the roads around Holguín in good condition? I’m thinking of renting one for 1–2 or 3 days to visit Holguín, Gibara, and Banes on my own. Do you recommend it (I’ve got a great sense of direction)? How much does it usually cost to rent a scooter for 2 or 3 days (or a car, though I’d prefer a scooter)? Also, are there any other interesting spots nearby you’d suggest checking out?
Are there any excursions to Santiago, and how much do they typically cost?
Hi,
When booking the tickets to Martinique for our family, I must have made a mistake, and on one of the tickets, the third first name is wrong. Michel instead of Joel...
CORSAIR Airlines is telling me I have to buy a new ticket for 1200 € (Christmas period). I think that’s outrageous and, above all, impossible for us.
I’m desperate—I feel like Corsair is really overdoing it.
Is there any recourse? How can I get out of this?
I’m throwing this message in a bottle, just in case...😕
Hi, I'm looking for a car rental for January 2020 in Guadeloupe. There are several agencies I've seen reviews for—has anyone dealt with Autolagon before?
Thanks!
I’m heading to Bayahibe this winter. It’ll be my second time in this country, where I feel so at home.
I’d love to bring back some Larimar jewelry... the real deal.
I saw some at a shop in the Iberostar Dominicus hotel, but I’m guessing I can find it cheaper elsewhere. Maybe in La Romana?
If anyone has any tips on this, I’d really appreciate it.
Some wholesalers are canceling trips to Cuba, but I still want to visit my favorite country. For those who went there in November, what’s the situation like at all-inclusive hotels?