Bonjour,
je sais que la question a souvent été posée, mais j'ai quand même besoin de votre aide...
nous avons concocté un programme, mais nous aimerions le soumettre à tous les amis compétents du forum pour qu'ils nous disent ce qui ne va pas, ce qui manque, ce qui est de trop etc...
Où dégager une journée de plus pour LAS VEGAS ,
pour l'instant, nous n'avons réservé que le vol et la nuit à DENVER.OUEST AMERICAIN SEPTEMBRE 2013
3 VOL PARIS – DENVER
4 VOL DENVER BOZEMAN arrivée à 9 heure du matin, location de voiture, Direction West Yellowstone en passant par Gardiner
5 Visite de l’autre partie du parc et nuit à West Yellowstone
6 Retour à Bozeman par Gardiner. Nuit à Bozeman
7 Vol pour LAS VEGAS, location de voiture et départ pour SPRINGDALE
8 BRYCE CANYON, nuit à PANGWITCH
9 BRYCE CANYON, nuit à PAGE
10 LAKE POWEL, nuit à KAYENTA
11 MONUMENT VALLEY, nuit à MOAB
12 ARCHES PARK, CANYONLAND, nuit à MOAB
13 DEAD HORSE POINT, nuit à DURANGO
14 MESA VERDE , CHACO, petit train, nuit à DURANGO
15 Nuit à DURANGO
16 TAOS
17 TAOS SANTA FE
18 TAOS
19 CHINLE CANYON
20 CHINLE
21 GRAND CANYON
22 GRAND CANYON
23 LAS VEGAS
24 DEPART POUR PARIS à 14h
A première vue ce n'est pas bien équilibré
mais il faut que j'y regarde de plus près
Bern
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USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
C'est un peu juste pour Yellowstone, il va bien falloir lister les visites par avance et faire des choix, vous ne pourrez pas faire tous les incontournables.
Je ne comprends pas trop la logique d'arriver à Denver, il aurait fallu arriver directement à Bozeman. Ou alors faire une boucle autour de Salt Lake City.
7: j'ignore à quelle heure vous arrivez à Vegas mais il faudrait visiter sur la route le State Park de Valley Of Fire. Mais il y a aussi Zion à visiter... C'est chargé!
8: Panguitch est trop éloigné de Bryce. Loger à Tropic mieux placé.
Pour visiter Monument Valley, Kayenta n'est pas le mieux placé (en plus d'être déprimante)... Préférer Mexican Hat.
A Moab vous ne pouvez pas faire le même journée Arches et Canyonlands. Il faut un jour entier pour chaque parc donc 3 nuits à Moab impérativement.
Dead Horse Point est à coupler avec Canyonlands (Island In The Sky) car dans le même coin.
La visite de Mesa Verde demande minimum une nuit sur place ou à Cortez.
Le petit train de Durango, je ne l'ai pas fait, mais je sais que ça demande une journée entière.
Je pense que Chaco Culture est mal placé puisqu'il est situé au Nouveau-Mexique entre Farmington et Albuquerque.
Pourquoi faire Taos - Santa Fe - Taos? Je ne comprends pas trop la logique.
Le Canyon de Chelly nécessite une nuit sur place seulement.
Grand Canyon nécessite également une seule nuit sur place si vous ne randonnez pas au fond (ou en partie)
A mon avis il va falloir réorganiser tout ça en supprimant la partie Nouveau-Mexique de votre itinéraire qui est beaucoup trop chargé.
De Yellowstone au Nouveau Mexique, déjà rien qu'en lisant c'est cavalcade garantie 😕 .
Faut retravailler et cibler, y compris les timing des parcs qui sont mal calculés.
prenez le temps d’additionner Km et temps de visite :
par exemple, on ne peut pas voir Mesa Verde, le petit train et Chaco culture :
chaque lieu demande 1 journée avec le temps de trajet
Yellowstone : trop court pour valoir le détour, et le surcouts des vols en plus
Quand vous dite que le vol vers Denver est réservé, je supose que le retour de Las Vegas aussi
Mettez le lieu des nuits et le km des jours, et les temps de visite prévus en face chaque date
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
merci à tous de répondre si vite.
oui les vols sont réservés, si on s'arrête à Denver c'est parce que strasbourg Bozeman est hors de prix par rapport à ce qu'on a pris...
combien de jours à Yellowstone ? les hotels dans le parc étant tous complets, est-ce une bonne idée de dormir à West Yellowstone ? le vol Bozeman Las vegas n'est pas encore réservé, et si on enlève une partie de la fin du voyage, on peut peut-être rester un jour de plus...
En supprimant vos vols internes (qui vont augmenter votre budget et qui ne vs servent pas à grand chose) , voici 2 propositions de circuits mieux équilibrés (pas de détours inutiles), qui tiennent comptent des temps de route et des temps de visite et qui essayent de tenir compte de vos choix de visites (car il n'y a pas moyen de tout incorporer ds le laps de temps décidé pour votre voyage):
J1 : Arrivée à Denver
J2 : Denver – Thermopolis
J3 : Thermopolis – Yellowstone
J4 : Yellowstone
J5 : Yellowstone
J6 : Yellowstone
J7 : Yellowstone – Grand Teton
J8 : Grand Teton – Flaming Gorge (ou Vernal)
J9 : Flaming Gorge (ou Vernal) – Moab
J10 : Moab (Canyonlands + Dead Horse Point)
J11 : Moab (Arches)
J12 : Moab – Cortez
J13 : Cortez – Mesa Verde
J14 : Mesa Verde – Canyon de Chelly
J15 : Canyon de Chelly – Monument Valley
J16 : Monument Valley – Goosenecks SP/ Valley of the Gods/ Natural Bridges – Hwy 95 - Torrey
J17 : Torrey (Capitol Reef)
J18 : Capitol Reef – Bryce
J19 : Bryce canyon – Page (Lac Powell) via Cottonwood Canyon Road
J20 : Page (Antelope Canyon + Horseshoe Bend)
J21 : Page – Grand Canyon South Rim (détour éventuel vers Marble Canyon & Lees Ferry)
J22 : Grand Canyon South Rim – Las Vegas
J23 : Las Vegas
J24 : vol retour
J1 : Arrivée à Denver
J2 : Denver (Garden of the Gods) – Air Force Academy- Rte vers Great Sand Dunes
J3 : Great Sand Dunes(2H)– Rte Alamosa – Rio Grande Bridge – Taos Pueblo – Taos – Santa Fe
J4 : Santa Fe (visite le matin) – Tent Rocks – Albuquerque
J5 : Albuquerque – Chaco – nuit à Farmington
J6 : Farmington – Route vers Chinle (Canyon de Chelly)
J7 : Suite visite du Canyon de Chelly – Monument Valley ou route directement vers Page (avec arrêt éventuel aux ruines indiennes du Navajo NM)
J8 : Monument Valley – Page (Antelope Canyon + Horseshoe Bend)
J9 : Page – Piste Cottonwood Canyon Road – Bryce Canyon
J10 : Bryce Canyon
J11 : Bryce Canyon – Salt Lake City (Antelope Island )
J12: Salt Lake City - Yellowstone
J13 : Yellowstone
J14 : Yellowstone
J15 : Yellowstone
J16 : Yellowstone – Grand Teton
J17 : Grand Teton – Flaming Gorge (ou Vernal)
J18 : Flaming Gorge (ou Vernal) – Moab
J19 : Moab (Canyonlands + Dead Horse Point)
J20 : Moab (Arches)
J21 : Moab – Cortez
J22 : Cortez – Mesa Verde
J23 : Mesa Verde – Monument Valley
J24 : Monument Valley – Grand Canyon South Rim
J25 : Grand Canyon South Rim – Las Vegas
J26 : Las Vegas
J27 : vol retour
Comme constaté, il manque des jours.. Il faut donc supprimer la visite de Mesa Verde et faire:
J21 : Moab – Monument Valley
J22 : Monument Valley – Grand Canyon South Rim
J23 : Grand Canyon South Rim – Las Vegas
J24 : Las Vegas et vol retour
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
super, merci... mais nous n'avons que 20 jours...
les numéros que j'ai mis, c'étaient les dates 3 , 4 septembre etc..
ce n'est pas moi qui ai mis périple de 24 jours en titre, j'avais mis simplement périple dans le Far West, je ne sais pas pourquoi c'est "de 24 jours "...
Houlala... alors y a pas lieu de se casser la tête pour trouver un itinéraire. Vs faites le tour des grands classiques... et vs prévoyez de retourner une autre fois pour réaliser le reste de vos desideratas😛😉:
J1 : Arrivée à Denver
J2 : Denver – Thermopolis
J3 : Thermopolis – Yellowstone
J4 : Yellowstone
J5 : Yellowstone
J6 : Yellowstone
J7 : Yellowstone – Grand Teton
J8 : Grand Teton – Flaming Gorge à voir au sunset (ou Vernal)
J9 : Flaming Gorge (ou Vernal) – Moab
J10 : Moab (Canyonlands + Dead Horse Point)
J11 : Moab (Arches)
J12 : Moab – Monument Valley
J13 : Monument Valley – Grand Canyon South Rim
J14 : Grand Canyon – Page (Lac Powell)
J15 : Page – Bryce Canyon, via Cottonwood Canyon Road
J16 : Bryce Canyon
J17 : Bryce Canyon – Zion
J18 : Zion – Valley of Fire – Las Vegas
J19 : Las Vegas
J20 : vol retour
et vs rajoutez 1 ou 2 jours au choix, à Cody ou Yellowstone, ou Grand Teton, ou Moab, ou Page, ou Zion, ou Las Vegas
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Si j'ai bien compris, c'est 20 jours sur place + 2 jours pour les vols d'avion.
Ds ce cas, vs avez tjs la possibilité d'emprunter la scenic Hwy 95 entre Monument Valley et Torrey:
J1 : Arrivée à Denver
J2 : Denver – Thermopolis
J3 : Thermopolis – Yellowstone
J4 : Yellowstone
J5 : Yellowstone
J6 : Yellowstone
J7 : Yellowstone – Grand Teton
J8 : Grand Teton – Flaming Gorge à voir au sunset (ou Vernal)
J9 : Flaming Gorge (ou Vernal) – Moab
J10 : Moab (Canyonlands + Dead Horse Point)
J11 : Moab (Arches)
J12 : Moab – Monument Valley
J13 : Monument Valley – Goosenecks SP/ Valley of the Gods/ Natural Bridges – Hwy 95 - Torrey
J14 : Torrey (Capitol Reef)
J15 : Capitol Reef – Bryce
J16 : Bryce canyon – Page (Lac Powell) via Cottonwood Canyon Road
J17 : Page (Antelope Canyon + Horseshoe Bend)
J18 : Page – Grand Canyon South Rim (détour éventuel vers Marble Canyon & Lees Ferry)
J19 : Grand Canyon South Rim – Las Vegas
J20 : Las Vegas
J21 : vol retour
Et rajouter 1 jour où vs voulez.
Ou bien incorporer la visite de Mesa Verde et faire:
J1 : Arrivée à Denver
J2 : Denver – Thermopolis
J3 : Thermopolis – Yellowstone
J4 : Yellowstone
J5 : Yellowstone
J6 : Yellowstone
J7 : Yellowstone – Grand Teton
J8 : Grand Teton – Flaming Gorge à voir au sunset (ou Vernal)
J9 : Flaming Gorge (ou Vernal) – Moab
J10 : Moab (Canyonlands + Dead Horse Point)
J11 : Moab (Arches)
J12 : Moab – Cortez
J13 : Cortez – Mesa Verde
J14 : Mesa Verde – Monument Valley
J15 : Monument Valley – Grand Canyon South Rim
J16 : Grand Canyon – Page (Lac Powell)
J17 : Page – Bryce Canyon, via Cottonwood Canyon Road
J18 : Bryce Canyon
J19 : Bryce Canyon – Zion
J20 : Zion – Valley of Fire – Las Vegas
J21 : Las Vegas
J22 : vol retour
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
merci pour les itinéraires; mais le vol Bozeman Las Vegas ne coutant que 46 euros, ne pensez-vous pas qu'il vaut mieux commencer le périple à LV (après le Yellowstone évidemment) ce qui nous laisserait quand même plus de temps pour ce coin là ?
Ah.. oui... à ce prix-là, c'est une possibilité supplémentaire (mais est-ce que le bagage en soute est compris de ce prix?)
Vs pourriez alors envisager par exemple les visites de Mesa Verde et de Canyon de Chelly:
J1 : Arrivée à Denver
J2 : Denver – Thermopolis
J3 : Thermopolis – Yellowstone
J4 : Yellowstone
J5 : Yellowstone
J6 : Yellowstone
J7 : Yellowstone – Bozeman + vol interne vers Las Vegas
J8 : Las Vegas
J9 : Las Vegas – Valley of Fire (très tôt le matin) et route pour Zion + visite – nuit à Springdale
J10 : Suite de Zion – route vers Bryce : visite et coucher de soleil – nuit à Bryce
J11 : Bryce Canyon – Torrey (ou Escalante)
J12 : Torrey (ou Escalante) – Capitol Reef – Moab
J13 : Moab
J14 : Moab
J15 : Moab – Cortez
J16 : Cortez – Mesa Verde
J17 : Mesa Verde – Canyon de Chelly
J18 : Canyon de Chelly – Monument Valley
J19 : Monument Valley – Page
J20 : Page – Grand Canyon
J21 : Grand Canyon – Las Vegas
J22 : Las Vegas et vol retour
J'attire cependant votre attention sur la possibilité de louer facilement ou non une voiture à Denver pour la rendre ensuite à Bozeman (qui est un "bled").
Ne pas oublier de rajouter les frais de drop off entre Denver et Bozeman (exemple: entre Denver et Jackson -qui est moins loin que Bozeman- 150 $ + tax)
Ne pas oublier que louer une voiture 20 jours consécutifs coûte moins cher que de louer 1x5 jours + 1x15 jours (puisque le prix est dégressif avec le nombre de jours de location).
Pour connaitre le kilométrage de chaque circuit, utilisez http://maps.google.com/. Vs verrez ainsi le nombre de km que vs permet d'éviter le vol interne (et voir si ça vaut la peine)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Merci pour vos conseils, là on y arrive tout doucement...
juste quelques questions :
nous sommes 4, plus très jeunes mais encore en forme, pensez-vous qu'il nous faille un 4/4 ? j'étais par là-bas il y a une quinzaine d'années et je me souviens qu'avec une berline on n'avait pas le droit d'aller sur les pistes..
D'autre part, ce qui m 'embête, c'est de devoir réserver des hôtels à l'avance, j'aimerais des fois pouvoir rester une journée de plus à un endroit qui nous
plait ; on peut réserver la veille pour le lendemain ou est-ce trop risqué ? j'ai réservé à yellowstone et à Las vegas, pour le reste j'hésite.
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses.
Pour les résa...les avis sont très partagés.
D'aucuns aiment avoir tout planifié à l'avance => avantage ne pas avoir à commencer à chercher un toît à 16-17 et de voir l'heure tourner sur la montre... inconvénients : ne pas pourvoir rester 1j de plus ou de moins
D'autres sont aventureux...tant pis si je n'ai pas d'hôtel, je dormirais dans la voiture...
Tout va dépendre aussi de la période à laquelle vous partez : de mi-juin à mi-septembre, le prudence est de réserver. en dehors de cette période, la prudence est de mise pour les nuits du vendredi et du samedi.
itin1.- LAS VEGAS - OVERTON 108KM 2 H
arrivée à LV à 15 h, location de la voiture, Valley of Fire, OVERTON
2.- PARC ZION, SRINGDALE 190 KM 2H30
3.- SUITE DE ZION , vers Bryce 136km 2h
4.- BRYCE CANON capitole reef TROPIC
5.- MOAB 450 KM 4 H30
6.- MOAB
7.- MOAB
8.- MESA VERDE -CORTES 180 KM 2 H
9.-Monument Valley MEXICAN HAT 190 KM 2 H
10.- Canyon CHELLY 114 KM 1 H 45
11.- Petrified forest HOLBROOK 200 KM 2H 40
12.- FLAGSTAFF 147 KM 1 H 45
13.- GRAND CANYON 126 KM 1 H 30 14.- LAS VEGAS 445KM 4 H 15
" ce qui m 'embête, c'est de devoir réserver des hôtels à l'avance, j'aimerais des fois pouvoir rester une journée de plus à un endroit qui nous "
Au vu de votre planning très serré, je ne vois pas bien où vs auriez le temps de rester un jour de plus même si l'endroit vs plait.
Ds ce cas, autant réserver vos hébergements plutôt que de perdre du temps (temps qui est déjà compté) sur place à trouver qq ch.
A remarquer aussi que la plupart des hébergements sont annulables jusqu'à la veille du jour prévu, voire même le jour même (bien lire les conditions d'annulation)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
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Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
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Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
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Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
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Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels.
Cheers,
Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense?
Day 1: Orlando
Day 2: Amelia Island
Day 3: Amelia Island
Day 4: Tallahassee
Day 5: Panama City Beach
Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin)
Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way)
Day 8: Crystal River
Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater)
Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete)
Day 11: Anna Maria
Day 12: Orlando
Day 13: Orlando
Day 14: Orlando
Day 15: Departure
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus.
In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high.
Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities?
- Los Angeles
- Las Vegas
- San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?