Préparation d'un premier voyage, au Kenya
by Dite84
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour à tous
je suis un peu perdu dans la préparation de ce premier voyage (janvier 2016) surtout pour trouver un safari (cadeau d'anniversaire pour mon mari)
alors ma première question concerne les nombreux guides ou agences qui sont pour vous les plus fiables ? , afin que je puisse faire un premier tri et avoir une idée plus précise du cout pour un safari privé
merci pour vos réponses
AS Si c'est pour votre mari , vous êtes un peu perduE et non perdu .
Des agences , il y en a 50 et vous verrez , en consultant les avis sur le Kenya , la Tanzanie , la Namibie , etc. , que certaines sont plus prisées que d'autres mais que parfois , les avis divergent pour la même agence : je ne vous aide pas beaucoup MAIS je peux vous dire où vous avez le plus de chances de VOIR PEU LOIN des animaux . N'importe où , vous finirez par entrevoir une demi-seconde la queue d'un léopard ou un grand troupeau d'éléphants à...800m
1) Afrique du Sud : le Kruger , c'est le vrai bush , des arbustes et des arbres de 3 à 7-8m qui BOUCHENT la vue . Maintenant , la chance peut jouer : à la fin d'une matinée décevante , SANS BRUIT , un troupeau de plus de 80 éléphants a traversé la route
2) Kenya : immensités planes de savanes : on voit très loin ... et ne pas négliger le zoo de Nairobi ! au nord , les lacs/lagunes avec les flamants roses
3) Tanzanie : le nord est la continuation des immensités du sud du Kenya . Des parcs intéressants ailleurs plus le fameux N'Gorongoro : UN MONDE EN MINIATURE . Vaste fond de cratère avec lions souvent apathiques et qui se laissent approcher , gnous et zèbres en quantité , un lac au centre avec les flamants , etc
4) Namibie : en mettant à part les fantastiques paysages de dunes et les femmes Himbas( mais on peut en dire autant des vues sur le Kilimandjaro depuis la Tanzanie et le Kenya et les hommes masaï au Kenya) , le parc Etosha est remarquablement étudié : les points d'eau sont aménagés de telle façon qu'on voit de près les animaux
5) Ailleurs , je ne sais pas
6) En dehors du hasard on peut forcer la chance pour voir des animaux :
a) dans certains lodges , on suspend à proximité un gros quartier de viande au crépuscule : lions garantis ensuite ou alors léopards ( quasiment invisibles autrement : ils se sont adaptés et sont devenus chasseurs nocturnes , se dissimulant le jour ) je sais que cela existe en Afrique du Sud
b) la fantastique migration des gnous , 4 millions ou plus sur des centaines de kilomètres aller et autant retour tous les ans entre la Tanzanie et le Kenya : je l'ai vu mais je regrette de n'avoir pu assister à la traversée de la rivière Mara , SPECTACLE FANTASTIQUE avec les dizaines de crocos qui attaquent et font bombance
c) après la saison des pluies , tout est vert donc on voit mieux les animaux mais comme l'eau abonde , ils sont moins regroupés aux points d'eau . En saison sèche ( climat quand même moins pénible ) , le paysage est dans un camaïeu d'ocres qui dissimule beaucoup d'animaux mais par contre ils se regroupent plus aux points d'eau connus des guides locaux.
Donc , à vous de choisir
Photo 1 : les monticules derrière les arbres , ce sont des gnous par milliers
Photo 2 : lions en pleine action au Kenya
Photo 3 : un troupeau d'une quinzaine de girafes : rarissime !
Photo 4 : le fond du N'Gorongoro
Photo 5 : point d'eau à Etosha
Photo 6 : n'importe quel mammifère ( demandez à votre mari ) , quand on lui marche sur la queue , il se met en colère !
Photo 7 : jeune Himba ; pour 10 vaches + 10 chèvres + des ustensiles en plastique + des couvertures et j'aurais pu l'emmener dixit son père...
Bonjour,
Le tout serait déjà de déterminer le pays. Perso, nous avons fait la Namibie l'an passé et nous revenons juste du Kenya cette année. Namibie : paysages fantastiques du nord au sud et possibilité non négligeable de rouler en self drive (agence Tourmaline impeccable) en toute sécurité. Le parc d'Etosha est effectivement redoutable d'efficacité avec ses multiples points d'eau (où nous n'avons jamais rencontré personne si ce n'est des gazelles... question de chance et de saison) et ses pistes où il n'est pas possible de se perdre; Au delà du safari, le reste du pays ne doit pas être négligé car c'est un pays fantastique (Epupa Falls, Himbas, Désert du Namib...) et la capitale Windhoek est aussi agréable et l'on peut s'y promener en journée sans souci.
Kenya : nous avons loué une jeep avec chauffeur (agence sunworld safari impeccable) et vu un nombre infini d'animaux dans les parcs de Masaï Mara, Amboseli (le Kilimanjaro complétant admirablement le tableau quand il a bien voulu se montrer, c'est-à-dire le dernier jour...) et Tsavo West (dans ce parc, la végétation est plus touffue et il y a du relief, donc il est plus difficile de voir des animaux mais lorsqu'on les voit, ils sont plus sauvages et ont un comportement plus intéressant selon moi). Nous avons fait les lacs Nakuru, Naivasha et Baringo : à refaire, on les zapperait : aucun flamands (à part une dizaine d'individus) et pas beaucoup d'intérêt en rapport avec les km à avaler pour y arriver (à noter que par contre la route menant au lac Baringo devient très jolie à partir d'un moment et que l'on passe l'équateur...) Nous avons terminé par un séjour sur la côte à Lamu : à ne rater sous aucun prétexte. Au Kenya, il y a une baisse incroyable du tourisme, cela fait mal au coeur vis à vis des locaux qui vous soignent du coup aux petits oignons. Bref un séjour incroyable. Question sécurité, nous n'avons rencontré aucun problème dans ou en dehors des parcs, ni même sur la côte où nous avons déambulé dans Lamu town par nous-mêmes mais sans afficher de richesses bien entendu comme partout.
Bonne prépa.
Le tout serait déjà de déterminer le pays. Perso, nous avons fait la Namibie l'an passé et nous revenons juste du Kenya cette année. Namibie : paysages fantastiques du nord au sud et possibilité non négligeable de rouler en self drive (agence Tourmaline impeccable) en toute sécurité. Le parc d'Etosha est effectivement redoutable d'efficacité avec ses multiples points d'eau (où nous n'avons jamais rencontré personne si ce n'est des gazelles... question de chance et de saison) et ses pistes où il n'est pas possible de se perdre; Au delà du safari, le reste du pays ne doit pas être négligé car c'est un pays fantastique (Epupa Falls, Himbas, Désert du Namib...) et la capitale Windhoek est aussi agréable et l'on peut s'y promener en journée sans souci.
Kenya : nous avons loué une jeep avec chauffeur (agence sunworld safari impeccable) et vu un nombre infini d'animaux dans les parcs de Masaï Mara, Amboseli (le Kilimanjaro complétant admirablement le tableau quand il a bien voulu se montrer, c'est-à-dire le dernier jour...) et Tsavo West (dans ce parc, la végétation est plus touffue et il y a du relief, donc il est plus difficile de voir des animaux mais lorsqu'on les voit, ils sont plus sauvages et ont un comportement plus intéressant selon moi). Nous avons fait les lacs Nakuru, Naivasha et Baringo : à refaire, on les zapperait : aucun flamands (à part une dizaine d'individus) et pas beaucoup d'intérêt en rapport avec les km à avaler pour y arriver (à noter que par contre la route menant au lac Baringo devient très jolie à partir d'un moment et que l'on passe l'équateur...) Nous avons terminé par un séjour sur la côte à Lamu : à ne rater sous aucun prétexte. Au Kenya, il y a une baisse incroyable du tourisme, cela fait mal au coeur vis à vis des locaux qui vous soignent du coup aux petits oignons. Bref un séjour incroyable. Question sécurité, nous n'avons rencontré aucun problème dans ou en dehors des parcs, ni même sur la côte où nous avons déambulé dans Lamu town par nous-mêmes mais sans afficher de richesses bien entendu comme partout.
Bonne prépa.
Bonjour,
Question bien complexe nous y sommes confrontés nous aussi car nous préparons notre 4ème safari au Kenya pour cet été.
Le prix est dépendant de plusieurs facteurs:
-le nombre de participants à 2 en privé c'est bien sûr le + élevé -le véhicule : minibus ou 4X4 (cela dépend des parcs choisis par exemple à Meru le 4X4 est obligatoire pour le rhino sanctuary) -les parcs ou réserves et leur prix d'entrée qui est fixe (entre 60 à 90 $ par jour par adulte) -les hébergements avec des standings très différents .....du camping au 5*...... -contrairement au safari les séjours sur la côte sont en général très bon marché ce qui fait baisser certains devis.
Il y a donc des frais fixes: guide, véhicule, taxes d'entrée dans les parcs. Le reste est variable selon l'hébergement choisi.... Il est difficile de donner une fourchette de prix car elle varie notamment en fonction du nombre de participants. D'après mon expérience à 2 il faut certainement compter en safari un minimum de 300$/j par personne ....
Bons préparatifs!
-le nombre de participants à 2 en privé c'est bien sûr le + élevé -le véhicule : minibus ou 4X4 (cela dépend des parcs choisis par exemple à Meru le 4X4 est obligatoire pour le rhino sanctuary) -les parcs ou réserves et leur prix d'entrée qui est fixe (entre 60 à 90 $ par jour par adulte) -les hébergements avec des standings très différents .....du camping au 5*...... -contrairement au safari les séjours sur la côte sont en général très bon marché ce qui fait baisser certains devis.
Il y a donc des frais fixes: guide, véhicule, taxes d'entrée dans les parcs. Le reste est variable selon l'hébergement choisi.... Il est difficile de donner une fourchette de prix car elle varie notamment en fonction du nombre de participants. D'après mon expérience à 2 il faut certainement compter en safari un minimum de 300$/j par personne ....
Bons préparatifs!
Bonjour, le TO "viesauvage.fr" est très réputé et pas trop mal placé au point de vue prix. C'est un TO français, ce qui n'est pas négligeable et ce que j'aime aussi c'est que ses prix sont affichés sur leur site donc ça te donnera une bonne idée. (Il faut aller cliquer sur le lien "prix et départ" pour avoir le vrai prix taxes d'aéroport incluses)
Pour les prix ça dépend de beaucoup de chose, en premier lieu de la durée, ensuite du nombre de jours de safaris et du choix du logement (lodge ou tente).
Attention au Kenya beaucoup de TO biaisent en mêlant beaucoup de jours de plage aux jours de safaris ce qui évidemment fait baisser le prix. C'est pour ça qu'on dit que le Kenya est moins cher que la Tanzanie, ce qui est faux car les TO de Tanzanie ne peuvent pas jouer sur ce curseur (Zanzibar ne fait guère baisser le prix vu qu'il y a l'avion à prendre et les hôtels sont très chers). En vérité en safari pur, le Kenya et la Tanzanie (nord) sont au même tarif.
Si vous voulez faire du safari + de la plage 1 semaine c'est insuffisant car alors vous ne ferez que 2-3 jours de safari sachant que 2 jours pleins sont perdus dans le trajet international ! Bon peut-être que pour un premier voyage ça peut convenir mais il y a aussi le problème du prix exorbitant des taxes d'aéroport. Du coup je trouve que c'est un peu bête de ne partir qu'une semaine. Je tablerai plutôt sur 9-10 jours pour amortir cette fichue taxe !
Attention au Kenya beaucoup de TO biaisent en mêlant beaucoup de jours de plage aux jours de safaris ce qui évidemment fait baisser le prix. C'est pour ça qu'on dit que le Kenya est moins cher que la Tanzanie, ce qui est faux car les TO de Tanzanie ne peuvent pas jouer sur ce curseur (Zanzibar ne fait guère baisser le prix vu qu'il y a l'avion à prendre et les hôtels sont très chers). En vérité en safari pur, le Kenya et la Tanzanie (nord) sont au même tarif.
Si vous voulez faire du safari + de la plage 1 semaine c'est insuffisant car alors vous ne ferez que 2-3 jours de safari sachant que 2 jours pleins sont perdus dans le trajet international ! Bon peut-être que pour un premier voyage ça peut convenir mais il y a aussi le problème du prix exorbitant des taxes d'aéroport. Du coup je trouve que c'est un peu bête de ne partir qu'une semaine. Je tablerai plutôt sur 9-10 jours pour amortir cette fichue taxe !
Bonjour,
Je suis en ce moment en plein préparatif de notre safari au Kenya pour fin aout 2015.
Ayant déja visité les réserves de Tsavo (magnifique) et Amboseli (trop touristique) en 2010, cette année nous allons nous concentrer sur les réserves du lac Nakuru et Masaï Mara.
Voici qques idées de prix que nous avons reçu pour 1 nuit à Nakuru et 2 à Masaï Mara (en safaris privé) : entre 700€ et 850€/p en logements simples excentrés du centre des réserves entre 850€ et 1100€ pour des logements simples mais au coeur des réserves, entre 1100€ et 1500€ pour des logement luxe au coeur des réserves.
Le prix dépendra surtout du choix des lodges ou camps dans les parcs et du nombre de personnes dans le van.
Pour moi le vrai luxe est d'etre seul dans son vehicule avec un guide et chauffeur. Après avoir croisés plusieurs vans remplis de 8 personnes (bruyantes, indisiplinées, irrespectueuses ...), je te conseille grandement cette option même si il faut renier sur la qualité ou l'emplacement des différents lodges.
En 2010 nous étions passés par "Jean Petit Prix" : sérieux et abordable niveau tarif. Cette année ses prix ont un peu augmenter par rapport à d'autres T.O Nous avons donc contacté "Safari Kenya Magique SKM" de Rashid, "Siri Ya Kenya Tout & Safari" de Pesa, "Jean Petit Prix" et "Explorer Kenya" de Robert Murigi. Les avis sur ces T.O sont très positifs et leurs pris corrects.
Si jamais tu as besoins d'autres infos, je reste dispo. Bon préparatif pour un voyage magnifique.
Je suis en ce moment en plein préparatif de notre safari au Kenya pour fin aout 2015.
Ayant déja visité les réserves de Tsavo (magnifique) et Amboseli (trop touristique) en 2010, cette année nous allons nous concentrer sur les réserves du lac Nakuru et Masaï Mara.
Voici qques idées de prix que nous avons reçu pour 1 nuit à Nakuru et 2 à Masaï Mara (en safaris privé) : entre 700€ et 850€/p en logements simples excentrés du centre des réserves entre 850€ et 1100€ pour des logements simples mais au coeur des réserves, entre 1100€ et 1500€ pour des logement luxe au coeur des réserves.
Le prix dépendra surtout du choix des lodges ou camps dans les parcs et du nombre de personnes dans le van.
Pour moi le vrai luxe est d'etre seul dans son vehicule avec un guide et chauffeur. Après avoir croisés plusieurs vans remplis de 8 personnes (bruyantes, indisiplinées, irrespectueuses ...), je te conseille grandement cette option même si il faut renier sur la qualité ou l'emplacement des différents lodges.
En 2010 nous étions passés par "Jean Petit Prix" : sérieux et abordable niveau tarif. Cette année ses prix ont un peu augmenter par rapport à d'autres T.O Nous avons donc contacté "Safari Kenya Magique SKM" de Rashid, "Siri Ya Kenya Tout & Safari" de Pesa, "Jean Petit Prix" et "Explorer Kenya" de Robert Murigi. Les avis sur ces T.O sont très positifs et leurs pris corrects.
Si jamais tu as besoins d'autres infos, je reste dispo. Bon préparatif pour un voyage magnifique.
Le plus beau voyage, c'est celui qu'on n'a pas encore fait. (Loïck Peyron)
Après avoir croisés plusieurs vans remplis de 8 personnes (bruyantes, indisiplinées, irrespectueuses ...)
C'est marrant, je lis souvent cette remarque pourtant de mon côté j'ai gardé un excellent souvenir d'un voyage partagé. Je pense qu'à deux nous nous serions souvent ennuyés surtout dans les transferts entre les parcs qui durent de nombreuses heures et où il n'y a pas grand chose à voir.
Mais bon... Les gens qui étaient avec nous étaient tout à fait charmants et corrects et nous en avons gardé de bons souvenirs. C'est pas tous les gens qui sont bruyants et indisciplinés, dans la plupart des lodges je n'ai rencontré que des touristes responsables et respectueux sauf une bande d'américains un soir qui se croyaient dans un saloon du Texas. Mais c'est l'exception.
C'est marrant, je lis souvent cette remarque pourtant de mon côté j'ai gardé un excellent souvenir d'un voyage partagé. Je pense qu'à deux nous nous serions souvent ennuyés surtout dans les transferts entre les parcs qui durent de nombreuses heures et où il n'y a pas grand chose à voir.
Mais bon... Les gens qui étaient avec nous étaient tout à fait charmants et corrects et nous en avons gardé de bons souvenirs. C'est pas tous les gens qui sont bruyants et indisciplinés, dans la plupart des lodges je n'ai rencontré que des touristes responsables et respectueux sauf une bande d'américains un soir qui se croyaient dans un saloon du Texas. Mais c'est l'exception.
Je confirme l'avis de Befasisi ayant fait les 2 formules.
Un beau safari peut être un peu gâché si on partage le véhicule avec des gens peu délicats qui s'exclament bruyamment à chaque animal ... L'échange avec un guide privé qui connait bien son pays et les animaux est un moment privilégié.
ptidikdik fan de safari
Heureusement que tout le monde n'est pas comme ça ...
Je fais une grande différence entre les voyageurs et les vacanciers. Les formules "tout-compris" de promovacances ou du même genre n'attirent pas les même personnes que les formules "à la carte" avec réservations en direct auprès des T.O.
Je fais une grande différence entre les voyageurs et les vacanciers. Les formules "tout-compris" de promovacances ou du même genre n'attirent pas les même personnes que les formules "à la carte" avec réservations en direct auprès des T.O.
Le plus beau voyage, c'est celui qu'on n'a pas encore fait. (Loïck Peyron)
bonjour à tous
en ce qui concerne le safari, sachant que mon mari est passionné de photos, je part sur un safari privé car le connaissant,
je ne souhaite pas prendre de risques ( de plus c'est interdit de nourrir les animaux ) LOL...
Le 2° point, c'est que je pense faire d'abord un séjour à Diani et faire le safari après indépendamment avec un TO local
ce qui nous permettra je pense de bien se reposer avant d'attaquer la brousse et ces long trajets !!
je vous remercie encore pour vos avis et suggestions et je vais commencer mes premiers contacts et je communiquerais mes premiers résultats pour pouvoir ainsi comparer
merci encore et à bientot
Ok donc ça suppose que l'agence en question possède un site internet et que l'interlocuteur parle français (ou que tu parles couramment l'anglais parce qu'au téléphone c'est bien plus dur qu'en visu). Ce qui élimine pas mal de petites agences locales bon marché...
J'aimerais savoir comment tu procèdes car c'est une chose que je ne sais pas faire, de tout planifier d'ici par téléphone avec des acomptes versés... comment au juste ?
Ou je fais tout de France mais alors je passe par une agence "tout compris" pour pas me compliquer la vie, ou je pars à l'aventure au hasard et je vois sur place, ce qui implique pas mal de perte de temps, de changements d'hôtels et de déplacements en taxis. Mais la solution intermédiaire je sais pas faire.
Il y a des to locaux qui parlent bien français et ont un site internet en français, avec des exemples de programmes et les prix ce qui donne déjà une base de réflexion pour élaborer avec eux votre projet de safari privé.
Il ne reste plus qu'à prendre son billet d'avion et demander un devis.
Un bon to répondra à toutes vos questions
ptidikdik fan de safari
Lors de mon dernier voyage au Kenya, nous avions demandé qques devis sur internet pour avoir une idée des prix et du sérieux des interlocuteurs mais nous n'avions rien réserver pour pouvoir négocier les prix sur place.
Une fois sur place (à Diani), nous sommes aller voir ces même T.O et le prix pour notre safari avait largement chuté (le safari en privé était moins cher que le même safari en groupe sur le devis du net !!)
Si tu as qques jours de farniente sur Diani avant le safari, je pense que c'est la meilleure solution ... A toi de voir.
Le plus beau voyage, c'est celui qu'on n'a pas encore fait. (Loïck Peyron)
bonjour à tous
pour le vol et le séjour à DIANI ( océan village ) car petite structure je vais certainement passer par mon voyagiste chez moi
NOUVELLE FRONTIERE car depuis que nous voyageons ( tous les 2 ans ) cette petite agence nous à toujours bien conseillées et de plus en cas de problèmes majeur on sait ou s'adresser et cela nous aient déjà arrivé une fois et il on été très commercial, quant aux prix je dirais que la petite différence qu'il peut y avoir avec certains sites internet n'est de l'ordre que de 100 ou 150 € mais nous partons l'esprit TRANQUILLE et de plus, je paye ma prestation sur 8 mois à peu près .
je suis déjà allée les voir , il savent que je cherche un safari aussi mais si je leurs prend que l'avion et le séjour au bord de mer y à pas de problèmes
de plus aujourd'hui , je pense que suite aux problèmes "terroristes" la demande doit être en baisse et qu'en faisant un devis pour un futur client il n'ont guère intérêts à " surfacturé les prestations"
je pense contacter 5 agence sur place " d'après vos suggestions et je vous en remercie" en leurs faisant bien comprendre
qu'ils ne sont pas seul à faire des propositions
voila pour l'instant ma ligne de conduite en n'écartant pas bien sur le facteur "chance" pour la réussite d'un séjour réussi
à bientôt et merci à tous ( je vous tiens au courant )
Nous avons fait, mon mari et moi, un safari privatif en octobre 2013 avec un TO sur place, Michel Découvertes, ou tout est compris : Pourboires partout, apéritifs et vins ce qui est appréciable car ça permet de ne pas avoir ce stress. Il ne reste que les souvenirs à acheter !!!. Michel est un français établi au Kenya depuis plus de 20 ans; il est installé sur la presqu'île à Naivasha et mieux encore dans le sanctuaire, d'où promenades à pied super !!!.
J'avais préparé le circuit avec l'aide de Michel et pour 12 jours j'ai payé 3600 euros par personne (hors avion) mais je me suis fait plaisir c'était pour mon 65ème anniversaire. Comme l'a dit Sylvie (je crois) tout est une question de choix ...
Si vous le voulez, vous pouvez voir mon récit à : http://www.fou-de-voyage.com/voyage/00247_voyage-kenya-mimi48/
Je ne me souviens pas si je l'ai dit dans le récit mais nous serions bien restés une journée de plus à Samburu.
J'envisage d'ailleurs de retourner chez Michel l'hiver prochain pour fuir le froid du Québec (-25 aujourd'hui !!).
Bon voyage vous allez vous régaler.
😉Même si le message ne m'est pas adressé, je vous dirais qu'une nuit à Nakuru est suffisante car le tour du parc se fait aisément en un jour.
Pour Samburu, nous n'y sommes pas allés et donc, je ne peux comparer avec le Masaï Mara qui est exceptionnel au niveau animalier.
Cordialement.
Cordialement.
Bonjour Mauricette,
Samburu, et Buffalo Springs (qui sont adjacents, je persiste, on passe de l'un à l'autre sans même une "gate" visible) sont de très belles réserves, avec de beaux paysages, beaucoup d'oiseaux, une forte biodiversité. Les grands chats sont présents, mais moins visibles que dans les réserves de Masai Mara, où les paysages sont plus monotones, bien que non dépourvus de charme.
Si tu dois choisir, je te conseille sans hésiter Masai Mara.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
guépard de Buffalo Springs
guépards de Masai Mara
Samburu, et Buffalo Springs (qui sont adjacents, je persiste, on passe de l'un à l'autre sans même une "gate" visible) sont de très belles réserves, avec de beaux paysages, beaucoup d'oiseaux, une forte biodiversité. Les grands chats sont présents, mais moins visibles que dans les réserves de Masai Mara, où les paysages sont plus monotones, bien que non dépourvus de charme.
Si tu dois choisir, je te conseille sans hésiter Masai Mara.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
guépard de Buffalo Springs
guépards de Masai Marasafari photo en Tanzanie et ailleurs https://safari-tanzanie.fr
WILIPI photographie animalière
A Nakuru je n'y allais que vous voir des rhinos que je n'avais pas vu en Tanzanie en 2010 et une nuit est suffisante à mon avis surtout qu'à ce moment-là le lac debordait de tous côtés (est-ce encore le cas ?.)
Samburu et Masai-mara sont différents par les paysages, la proximité des animaux et pour nous, certains animaux vus à Mara et pas à Samburu.
Le point négatif pour Mara c'était notre logement à proximité de la Talek Gate, trop loin de la partie nord (ce que moi j'appelle la partie nord c'est la partie de la Musiara Gate).
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Bonjour à tous
Le voyage en Afrique du Sud se rapproche (2 mois quand même 😏) et je me replonge dans mon programme: du samedi au dimanche suivant autour du Cap et du dimanche au samedi suivant dans le Kruger.
En ce qui concerne le Cap, l'idée était de ne pas changer tous les jours de logement (on le fera suffisamment pour la 2ème partie) mais de voir quand même des paysages différents. Alors je sais, je rate plein de choses mais il faut bien faire des choix et puis à force, je sais ce que j'aime et surtout ce que je n'aime pas (ou moins) 😉
Ce qui donne donc:
Arrivée samedi à 11h: direction Hermanus (2 nuits). L'idée est a priori de se balader le long du cliff path l'après-midi, éventuellement d'aller en voiture jusqu'au klein river lagoon. Dimanche: Stony point puis en fonction du temps (time et weather) une rando dans la Kogelberg nature Reserve ou dans Fernklof nature reserve (qui a l'air moins beau au niveau paysages mais les balades sont plus courtes). Lundi: route vers Franschoek (1 nuit): si tout s'enchaîne bien, rando dans la Jonkershoek NR et visite d'un domaine viticole Mardi: route vers Mountceder Lodge dans le Cederberg (2 nuits). J'ai pensé à la visite des Stadaal caves et elephant painting et peut-être une des balades proposées sur le site ou Maltese cross. Jeudi: direction Hout Bay pour 3 nuits. Dans le désordre: une journée (classique) tour de la péninsule, 1/2 journée jardins de Kirstenbosch, 1/2 jounée Lion's head. Dimanche: vol pour Johanesburg;
Mes questions concernent surtout les possibilités de (petite) randonnée: Quelqu'un en a-t-il déjà fait dans Kogelberg, Fernklof ou Jonkerschoek? Au Mountceder lodge (Michel, si tu me lis ... 😉) quelqu'un a-t-il déjà fait les randonnées (guidées ou pas) proposées par le lodge? Il reste 1/2 journée à occuper quand nous serons à Hout Bay: des idées (pas forcément de rando)?
Enfin, au niveau de la sécurité, diplomatie.gouv (alarmiste mais bon) conseille de randonner en groupe. Est-ce vraiment risqué en plein jour (je ne suis pas sûre qu'un groupe de 2 (femmes) soit vraiment considéré comme un "groupe"...)?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses, idées, remarques etc ...
Le voyage en Afrique du Sud se rapproche (2 mois quand même 😏) et je me replonge dans mon programme: du samedi au dimanche suivant autour du Cap et du dimanche au samedi suivant dans le Kruger.
En ce qui concerne le Cap, l'idée était de ne pas changer tous les jours de logement (on le fera suffisamment pour la 2ème partie) mais de voir quand même des paysages différents. Alors je sais, je rate plein de choses mais il faut bien faire des choix et puis à force, je sais ce que j'aime et surtout ce que je n'aime pas (ou moins) 😉
Ce qui donne donc:
Arrivée samedi à 11h: direction Hermanus (2 nuits). L'idée est a priori de se balader le long du cliff path l'après-midi, éventuellement d'aller en voiture jusqu'au klein river lagoon. Dimanche: Stony point puis en fonction du temps (time et weather) une rando dans la Kogelberg nature Reserve ou dans Fernklof nature reserve (qui a l'air moins beau au niveau paysages mais les balades sont plus courtes). Lundi: route vers Franschoek (1 nuit): si tout s'enchaîne bien, rando dans la Jonkershoek NR et visite d'un domaine viticole Mardi: route vers Mountceder Lodge dans le Cederberg (2 nuits). J'ai pensé à la visite des Stadaal caves et elephant painting et peut-être une des balades proposées sur le site ou Maltese cross. Jeudi: direction Hout Bay pour 3 nuits. Dans le désordre: une journée (classique) tour de la péninsule, 1/2 journée jardins de Kirstenbosch, 1/2 jounée Lion's head. Dimanche: vol pour Johanesburg;
Mes questions concernent surtout les possibilités de (petite) randonnée: Quelqu'un en a-t-il déjà fait dans Kogelberg, Fernklof ou Jonkerschoek? Au Mountceder lodge (Michel, si tu me lis ... 😉) quelqu'un a-t-il déjà fait les randonnées (guidées ou pas) proposées par le lodge? Il reste 1/2 journée à occuper quand nous serons à Hout Bay: des idées (pas forcément de rando)?
Enfin, au niveau de la sécurité, diplomatie.gouv (alarmiste mais bon) conseille de randonner en groupe. Est-ce vraiment risqué en plein jour (je ne suis pas sûre qu'un groupe de 2 (femmes) soit vraiment considéré comme un "groupe"...)?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses, idées, remarques etc ...
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!





