Arrivé Buenos aires Passer à Bahia Blanca, puis l'embouchure du Rio negro, puis Puerto Madryn et la pénisule Valdès pour y voir les baleines, les pingouins et autres sympathiques animaux et oiseaux. De là, continuer à descendre via Comodoro, une halte peut-être à la réserve de Puerto deseado, puis arriver à Rio Gallegos pour arriver à Ushaia, balade sur le canal beagle et à l'isla Navarino. Ensuite, je voudrais voir ( avant qu'ils fondent) les glaciers qui se jettent dans le Lago Argentino, le plus célèbre est le Moreno, un peu plus loin ( moins de monde ?) leViedma. Je ne crois pas avoir une forme physique suffisante pour aller jusqu'au Fritz Roy, mais nous pourrons peut-être voir ces magnifiques montagnes de loin.Continuer à remonter en passant par Boariloche et traverser le haut de la Patagonie par la route 23 qui arrive à San Antonio et revenir à Buenos Aires; 4 semaines pour aller voir tout ça ! Et puis, pour le budget nous comptons 2500/ 3000 euros avec l' avion Paris - Buenos Aires par personne est-ce raisonnable Je vous remercie d'avance de vos conseils
Avis sur mon projet en Argentine du 19 décembre au 16 janvier 2010
by Villeneuve
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
J'envisage avec mon amie de faire un périple en Argentine du 19 Décembre au 16 Janvier et avoir votre avis sur notre projet, vaut-il mieux annuler certaines destinations pour en privilégier d’autres et de me conseiller sur le moyen de transport le plus approprié (coût/temps/sécurité) . Bien sur on veut admirer les paysages mais il n’en demeure pas moins que nous voulons également connaître les habitants dans leur quotidien.
Pour l'hébergement nous aurons le petit guide malin qui va bien. Mon amie parle espagnole et moi-même les bases d'anglais.
C’est la première fois que nous abordons le continent américain et je ne vous cache pas que ce continent nous impressionne par sa superficie d‘où les longs trajets.
Arrivé Buenos aires Passer à Bahia Blanca, puis l'embouchure du Rio negro, puis Puerto Madryn et la pénisule Valdès pour y voir les baleines, les pingouins et autres sympathiques animaux et oiseaux. De là, continuer à descendre via Comodoro, une halte peut-être à la réserve de Puerto deseado, puis arriver à Rio Gallegos pour arriver à Ushaia, balade sur le canal beagle et à l'isla Navarino. Ensuite, je voudrais voir ( avant qu'ils fondent) les glaciers qui se jettent dans le Lago Argentino, le plus célèbre est le Moreno, un peu plus loin ( moins de monde ?) leViedma. Je ne crois pas avoir une forme physique suffisante pour aller jusqu'au Fritz Roy, mais nous pourrons peut-être voir ces magnifiques montagnes de loin.Continuer à remonter en passant par Boariloche et traverser le haut de la Patagonie par la route 23 qui arrive à San Antonio et revenir à Buenos Aires; 4 semaines pour aller voir tout ça ! Et puis, pour le budget nous comptons 2500/ 3000 euros avec l' avion Paris - Buenos Aires par personne est-ce raisonnable Je vous remercie d'avance de vos conseils
Arrivé Buenos aires Passer à Bahia Blanca, puis l'embouchure du Rio negro, puis Puerto Madryn et la pénisule Valdès pour y voir les baleines, les pingouins et autres sympathiques animaux et oiseaux. De là, continuer à descendre via Comodoro, une halte peut-être à la réserve de Puerto deseado, puis arriver à Rio Gallegos pour arriver à Ushaia, balade sur le canal beagle et à l'isla Navarino. Ensuite, je voudrais voir ( avant qu'ils fondent) les glaciers qui se jettent dans le Lago Argentino, le plus célèbre est le Moreno, un peu plus loin ( moins de monde ?) leViedma. Je ne crois pas avoir une forme physique suffisante pour aller jusqu'au Fritz Roy, mais nous pourrons peut-être voir ces magnifiques montagnes de loin.Continuer à remonter en passant par Boariloche et traverser le haut de la Patagonie par la route 23 qui arrive à San Antonio et revenir à Buenos Aires; 4 semaines pour aller voir tout ça ! Et puis, pour le budget nous comptons 2500/ 3000 euros avec l' avion Paris - Buenos Aires par personne est-ce raisonnable Je vous remercie d'avance de vos conseils
jlf
Bjour amis de villeneuve
Assez expérimentée sur l'argentine, même si après plusieurs années je ne connais pas tout, je souhaite vous dire que vous avez fait le choix d'un pays magnifique, envoutant, passionnant et qui mérite beaucoup de temps. Vous avez sans doute remarqué que les distances sont immenses et qu'il faut du temps pour les parcourir. A mon avis, pour profiter pleinement de votre seul mois, je pense qu'il serait préférable de partir directement de B Aires à Ushuaia en avion, en court circuitant la péninsule de Valdes : les baleines seront parties à ce moment là et les autres bestioles vous les verrez à Ushuaia sur le canal de Beagle... La péninsule ne présente pas un paysage extraordinaire par elle même, de mon point de vue. Ainsi vous aurez plus de temps pour vous consacrer aux glaciers ( le perito Mereno et les autres sur le lago argentino ) et aller aussi jusqu'a El Chalten approcher le Fitz Roy, une des merveilles argentines. Si vous voulez que l'on discute et que l'on échange, je vous propose, comme à bcp d'amis du forum de vous appeler sur votre fixe ( si vous en avez un ) C'est plus rapide pour moi qui passe bcp de temps à répondre à divers correspondants Vous pouvez m'écrire sur mon mail perso pour me donner votre téléphone: nicole.brondy@wanadoo.fr
Assez expérimentée sur l'argentine, même si après plusieurs années je ne connais pas tout, je souhaite vous dire que vous avez fait le choix d'un pays magnifique, envoutant, passionnant et qui mérite beaucoup de temps. Vous avez sans doute remarqué que les distances sont immenses et qu'il faut du temps pour les parcourir. A mon avis, pour profiter pleinement de votre seul mois, je pense qu'il serait préférable de partir directement de B Aires à Ushuaia en avion, en court circuitant la péninsule de Valdes : les baleines seront parties à ce moment là et les autres bestioles vous les verrez à Ushuaia sur le canal de Beagle... La péninsule ne présente pas un paysage extraordinaire par elle même, de mon point de vue. Ainsi vous aurez plus de temps pour vous consacrer aux glaciers ( le perito Mereno et les autres sur le lago argentino ) et aller aussi jusqu'a El Chalten approcher le Fitz Roy, une des merveilles argentines. Si vous voulez que l'on discute et que l'on échange, je vous propose, comme à bcp d'amis du forum de vous appeler sur votre fixe ( si vous en avez un ) C'est plus rapide pour moi qui passe bcp de temps à répondre à divers correspondants Vous pouvez m'écrire sur mon mail perso pour me donner votre téléphone: nicole.brondy@wanadoo.fr
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
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Bonjour,
Votre projet est le trajet que j'ai fait, pour l'Argentine, entre début janvier et mi février de cette année et pour un premier contact, avant Bolivie Pérou et Venezuela, j'ai bien apprécié de commencer dans ce sens. Puerto Madryn est calme, pas extraordinaire mais les environs sont beaux et bien sûr la péninsula Valdes, mais pas de baleines en cette saison. Si vous voyagez en bus, vous serez certainement obligés de passer une nuit à Rio Gallego, c'est intéressant pour rencontrer des habitants et avoir une impression de la vie citadine en Patagonie du sud et ensuite de traverser le détroit de Magellan (mythique et impressionnant). La ville d'Ushuaïa en elle-même est sans intérêt et je vous conseille si votre budget le permet de vous loger à l'extérieur, hôtel Las Yamanas, face au Canal de Beagle, ça vaut vraiment la peine. Ils proposent un tour d'une journée très bien pensé qui permet de découvrir la faune et les paysages, y compris une estancia-musée. A Bariloche la route des lacs vaut une excursion tranquille d'une journée. A Buenos Aires, si vous êtes intéressé par la Milonga, je vous recommande une classe à la Viruta dans Palermo qui est un bon quartier pour se loger avec San Telmo (particulièrement si vous y êtes un week end pour l'ambiance des rues).
L'étape la plus agréable que j'ai rencontrée (y compris pour les habitants) est Mendoza et ses environs, je ne sais pas si c'est dans vos plans, mais je crois que ça peut s'insérer très bien dans un voyage d'un mois.
Bref vous devriez bien apprécier ce voyage, les Argentins sont très accueillants très francophiles et fiers que l'on aime leur pays, et je n'ai rencontré aucun problème de sécurité. Les bus sont confortables et bien organisés.
Pour le budget, je tiens à votre disposition le réel dépensé que j'ai regroupé sur un tableau excel, n'hésitez pas si ça vous intéresse et si vous voulez d'autres infos. Bonne préparation Paul
Pour le budget, je tiens à votre disposition le réel dépensé que j'ai regroupé sur un tableau excel, n'hésitez pas si ça vous intéresse et si vous voulez d'autres infos. Bonne préparation Paul
"Je réponds ordinairement à ceux qui me demandent raison de mes voyages que je sais bien ce que je fuis, mais non pas ce que je cherche."
Montaigne, essais.
salut
ma femme et moi avons passer 2 mis 1/2 il y a deux ans au Chili et en Argentine (mi-novembre-fin janvier) et 3 mois l'an dernier en equateur-Pérou-Bolivie et - j'y arrive- nord de l'Argentine ( mi septembre- mi décembre)
L'argentine = super et voyage facile, au niveau des bus notamment. Aucun problème de sécurité mais faire un peu attention à la gare des bus de B-Aires.
Pour Puerto madryn, vérifier que c'est encore la saison des baleines.
Ushuaia = route très belle, ensuite on y passe 3 jours et c'est suffisant
Attention, pour les Argentins les grandes vacances commencent fin décembre donc les bus pour certaines destinations, exemple Ushuaia, peuvent être chargés.
Ne pas rater bien sur le Perito Moreno et les autres glaciers de cette région. Le fitz Roy peut être aperçu depuis la route si vous faites El Calafate-Bariloche: un long voyage ( 3 possibilités par bus) mais des paysages superbes. Cela étant il est dommage étant à coté et s'il fait beau de ne pas s'arréter à El chaten (le fitz Roy); il y a des marches qui ne sont pas trop difficiles.
Bariloche: c'est joli mais ce n'est pas le paysage qui nous a le plus marqué.
Ne pas rater B-Aires et pourquoi ne pas faire un saut (une nuit de bus) à Iguazu: c'est quand même unique.
Pour les billets d'avions: les acheter en Argentine ( c'était alors moins cher) plutot qu'en france mais il faut savoir qu'il y a, sur la compagnie nationale un tarif résident encore moins cher mais auquel nous n'avons pas droit!
Si sur place vous pouvez récupérer un Lonely planet ou même un Routard, n'hésitez pas.
Peu de gens parlent anglais.... sauf parmi les autres voyageurs.
bon voyage
j-p
En tout cas
jean-pierre rouy
ah ben tiens ca c'est drôle, nous sommes un groupe de 8 personnes et nous partons également en Argentine, certains partent le 15 décembre et l'une d'entre nous part ...le 19 décembre : ce qui est drôle c'est que...nous sommes de Fumel, pas très loin de Villeneuve sur Lot !
Pour aller à Paris, vous prenez le train ou l'avion à Toulouse ? En ce moment il y a des vols à 85€ aller/retour et on arrive directement à Orly.
Bonne préparation de voyage !😉
Bonjour à tous , un peu de retard dans mes réponses car je viens tout juste de rentrer de Bretagne.
et je m'empresse de vous remercie pour vos réponses rapides et vais commencer à étudier de plus prés vos avis et de revoir notre itinéraire . Je ne manquerai pas de vous en parler ou de vous solliciter pour d'autres renseignements.
Pour zondaryne, j'habite effectivement à Villeneuve sur Lot.
D'habitude je prends le train d'Agen à Paris où ma mère y habite.C'est pratique car je stress moins quand il faut prendre un avion : la peur de le rater.
jlf
Attention, les vols pour Buenos Aires partent de Charles de Gaulle. Si vous arrivez à Orly, faut récupérer les bagages et refaire un enregistrement à CDG, après avoir pris la navette. Attention aux délais.
Si vous avez besoin d'aide pour organiser votre voyage, pe peux vous apporter mes connaissances.
Si, par contre, vous avez de la place dans vos bagages, je suis à la recherche de volontaires sympa pour me transporter des vêtements tricotés par une asso et remis à la mienne " les enfants d'atacama" pour les donner aux enfants des écoles de San Juan et Puesto Sey ( après las salinas grandes) Les paquets pourraient être déposés dès Buenos Aires ou ailleurs ( après je me débrouille...) Je pourrais aussi vous organiser une rencontre dans une école andine si vous le souhaitez ( comme vous êtes nombreux, ce serait celle de Puesto Sey car l'autre n'a pas la capacité d'accueil)
Mais attention, mon aide à l'organisation de votre voyage n'est absolument pas subordonnée au transport des bagages!
C'est seulement une opportunité que je saisis! je vais d'ailleurs lancer un appel sur le forum pour cela.
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
C'est vrai que le train à Agen est une solution, mais en rentrant on avait pas envie de faire 5-6h de train. Et puis arriver à Orly directement est plus simple (si, si parce que nous on part directement d'Orly, via Madrid = billets moins chers).
Nous, on a prévu de rester 1 jour à BA, de filer pr 3 jours a El calafate ; d'enchainer sur Iguazu (en bus), et de finir tranquillement sur Salta (toujours en bus) : en trois semaines, cela doit être gérable.
Je viens vous revoir pour savoir au sujet des billets d'avion( Paris / Buenos Aires départ le 16 Décembre ) faut-il les réserver maintenant ou attendre la derniére minute . Je suis allé sur http://www.discount-voyage.com/billet-avion/ et les prix des billets varient de 850 à 959 € ce qui me semble raisonnable par les Compagnies Air Europa ou Brish Airways. Peut-on trouver moins cher ???
En Argentine combien faut- il compter en moyenne pour une location d'un véhicule à la semaine dans le genre Corsa catégorie C ou B .J'ai vu par exemple que chez Budjet c'est dans les 210 € avec le kilométrage en plus. Où trouver des petites compagnies de location d' automobiles sérieuses et pas trop chères (je parle de site web).
Je suis allé sur le site "Les Enfants d'Atacama " c'est génial.
Je suis allé sur le site "Les Enfants d'Atacama " c'est génial.
jlf
Bonsoir
J'ai l'impression q je ne vous ai pas répondu au sujet des billets et des loc de voiture.
Pour ces dernières, cela revient à peu près au même prix qu'en France.
Attention a ces petites voitures...cela dépend de ce que l'on veut faire ( aller) et aussi des intempéries locales. En décembre les pluies dans le NOA sont nombreuses et fortes. On peut donc rencontrer des éboulies même sur les routes en montagne.
Pour les billets, il est difficile d'avoir un avis" exact" . On peut acheter avant et avoir moins cher mais on peut aussi acheter en dernière minute pour pas cher...Rien de plus aléatoire.
Entre 850 et 950 c'est correct et je pe, nse qu'ilest difficile d'avoir moins cher....alors peut-être autant les prendre
Moi j'ai payé avec alitalia de nice/rome/buenos aires 910 pour le 8 septembre.
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
Bonjour, Mon projet est de partir en argentine avec une amie et cela pour 2 mois. (départ 16nov)
Je pense que vous avez un beau projet, et ne vous faites pas de souci mon expérience de l'Amérique latine est très positive, les gens sont sympas et acueillants. il faut respecter certaines règles de sécurité tout comme chez nous du reste.
Pour votre budget, il me semble très large.
nous serons à la péninsule de Valdes le 20 novembre et cela pour qq jours.
Comme nous pensons faire un assez grand périple et parfois louer un véhicule, si vous êtes sur notre chemin nous pouvons le partager.
dans tous les cas je vous souhaite un très bon voyage
jacq
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I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
Everything You Need to Know About Argentina’s Currency Exchange Maze (2026 Edition)
Hi fellow travelers,
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé





