Retour d'un voyage en Namibie et au Botswana
by Miesele
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir à Tous,
De retour depuis hier mais la tête encore dans les nuages je tiens à remercier énormément tous ceux qui fidèlement et inlassablement prodiguent leurs conseils et infos grâce auxquels notre périple fut un voyage merveilleux.
De peur d'oublier quelqu'un je ne citerai pas de noms, ils sauront se reconnaître 😎
Sans aucune réservation (sauf nuit à l'hôtel à l'arrivée à Windhoek), tous les campsites où nous avions prévu de nous arrêter sur notre itinéraire avaient de la place (sauf Anib Lodge en fin de circuit, ils n'ont que 3 campsites et nous ont proposé un lodge voisin), même Etosha et Sesriem.
Nous avons bien apprécié car cela nous a permis de faire au gré de nos envies et coups de coeur.
A bientôt pour un petit carnet de voyage 😉
Miesele
Bonsoir,
je comprend que tu en as encore plein les yeux et tu verras sa continura pendant des mois et des mois, nous sa fait 6 mois que l'on est rentrés et on ne voit pas le moment de pouvoir repartir au Botswana.
heureux que ton voyage se soit bien passer et vite vite vite ton carnet de voyage pour que l'on puissent revé en attendant de repartir.
A plus
"l'homme, blanc en Europe, noir en Afrique, jaune en Asie, et rouge en Amerique n'est que le meme homme teint de la couleur du climat."
citation de Georges louis leclerc, comte de buffon
Mon blog: http://bib31.skyrock.com
Mon blog: http://bib31.skyrock.com
Hello Miesele,
Je te souhaite un bon retour... 😕😕
Et je compatis avec ta déprime...
Pour nous remonter le moral et continuer le rêve (Yes Bridg31... 😉) je vais tacher de publier mon carnet de voyage ce week end...
Bon retour. On s'est pas croisé mais je t'ai senti. J'ai vu ton avion aussi au dessus du delta, depuis mon Mokoro...!
A suivre Franck
Je te souhaite un bon retour... 😕😕
Et je compatis avec ta déprime...
Pour nous remonter le moral et continuer le rêve (Yes Bridg31... 😉) je vais tacher de publier mon carnet de voyage ce week end...
Bon retour. On s'est pas croisé mais je t'ai senti. J'ai vu ton avion aussi au dessus du delta, depuis mon Mokoro...!
A suivre Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Bienvenu au club des "qui en sont revenus et qui voudraient y être encore"
Prend ton temps pour le carnet : il te fait revivre ton voyage lors de l'écriture
A bientôt pour te lire
Prend ton temps pour le carnet : il te fait revivre ton voyage lors de l'écriture
A bientôt pour te lire
hello francky4 et ben alors tu nous a pas dit comment c'etait ce voyage
En attente de ton recit
a bientot
"l'homme, blanc en Europe, noir en Afrique, jaune en Asie, et rouge en Amerique n'est que le meme homme teint de la couleur du climat."
citation de Georges louis leclerc, comte de buffon
Mon blog: http://bib31.skyrock.com
Mon blog: http://bib31.skyrock.com
Bonjour Miesele !
Quelle belle photo ! Si proche de ce que la Namibie a à offrir ! J'attends ton carnet avec impatience. Je dis ça tout en pensant au mien qui traîne sur un dossier Word... tant de choses à raconter et autant d'émotions.
En attendant, pour patienter, quelle a été l' émotion la plus forte ressentie pendant ton beau et long périple ?
A bientôt,
Joss
Quelle belle photo ! Si proche de ce que la Namibie a à offrir ! J'attends ton carnet avec impatience. Je dis ça tout en pensant au mien qui traîne sur un dossier Word... tant de choses à raconter et autant d'émotions.
En attendant, pour patienter, quelle a été l' émotion la plus forte ressentie pendant ton beau et long périple ?
A bientôt,
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
Ben moi aussi j'attends le carnet avec impatience. Depuis notre retour, il ne passe pas un jour sans que j'y pense et que je regarde quelques photos.
Véro
Dernier séjour dont nous avons parlé en ligne http://www.veroeddy.be/europe/uk/from-scotland-with-love
Depuis janvier 2012 http://www.veroeddy.be
Hello, on vient de rentrer d'un périple de 3000 km à travers la Namibie et bien sûr le retour a un gout de déprime, qu'il est dur de revenir en France après 3 semaines de vie sauvage intacte et souveraine en Namibie !
en attendant de faire mon carnet de voyages, quelques points forts à signaler pour ceux qui ont bien de la chance d'être sur le point de partir :
partis du 11 au 29/9/08:
Nice-Frankfurt-Windhoek arrivée le matin, toute la journée pour partir direct sur la route: c'était le timing idéal
Windhoek-Frankfurt-Nice: retour le soir, toute la dernière précieuse journée pour revenir tranquille sur Windhoek.
les points forts en émotion :
Kayak rando de 2 heures avec les phoques et dauphins de Pelican Point(Walvis Bay) avec Jeanne Eco Marine Kayak Tours: des phoques aussi joueurs que de jeunes chiots (don't feed wild animals !)
Tok Tokkie Trails : 3 jours de rando à pied dans le Désert du Namib avec un guide, coucher dans un lit de camp à la belle étoile, douche improvisée mais bien chaude, repas délicieux à la lueur des lampes à pétrole, monde des insectes, reptiles et oiseaux en découverte grâce au guide, un ciel étoilé inoui !
Grootberg Lodge : la plus belle vue des lodges ! chalets au bord du cirque d'un canyon époustouflant à 1700 m d'altitude, du personnel aux petits soins, et toujours une cuisine délicieuse comme partout en Namibie !
Cheetah Conservation Fund (CCF près d'Otjiwarongo): un programme et des hommes et femmes qui aiment les guépards, s'en soucient comme de leur prunelle, et nous font partager le respect de ces big cats absolument magnifiques, ronronnant comme des chats ! Si vous voulez tout savoir sur les guépards et la magnifique entreprise de leur sauvegarde par une scientifique américaine, faites le Belebenno Tour, 3 heures de game drive special endangered Cheetahs.
Zebra River Lodge : dans les Montagnes Zaris à l'est de 80 km de Sesriem, des chalets quasiment creusés dans la montagne au fond d'un canyon (demander le chalet le plus haut, je crois que c'est le 9). Ici, un accueil merveilleux de Rob et Marianne et de leur équipe: des repas délicieux (de la lotte en plein désert, j'y croyais pas !!), Rob ze top guide sur les animaux et les sentiers de rando : faut y rester au moins 2 nuits pour profiter de l'envoutement ! Colonie de babouins en observation des activités humaines au dessus de la ferme !
Point Noir😠: le seul de notre périple : la cheetah farm Otjitokongwe près de Kamanjab pour ceux qui veulent regarder dans les yeux une famille de Afrikaner farmers, à l'accueil rude et sec comme un coup de fouet ! ils se prétendent conservateurs amis des guépards et en conservent une 20taine dans un park, un coup d'oeil sur ces animaux pour voir qu'ils ne sont gardés que pour attirer les touristes; par rapport à ceux du CCF, ils m'ont paru mal nourris. Durant la visite, on nous plante au bar avec une bière le temps d'attendre l'heure du "festin" des guépards et surtout que la partie de billard du "guide" soit finie..., le temps aussi d'être écoeurée par les tristes trophées animaliers qui décorent le bar (oreilles d'éléphants, griffes d'aigle, peau de python, crane de léopard) avec en prime une pancarte alléchante "if you don't pay, you'll be the next one !" c'est sûr, on n'est chez des prédateurs de la faune sauvage ! un des trois guépards apprivoisés et vivant dans la ferme est un rescapé du tir du propriétaire ("j'ai tué sa mère parce qu'elle tuait mon bétail" me dit-il très froidement). pour finir le cheetah drive, le fiston du fermier nous plante devant un grand enclos où il dit avoir recueilli 1 femelle et trois petits: il balance de la viande d'âne par dessus la cloture et nous dit : attendez -là, elle viendra c'est sûr, ya qu'à attendre ! et là-dessus, Fiston se barre avec son 4x4 ! Le contre-exemple parfait de l'accueil chaleureux et spontané qui caractérise la Namibie !
Derniers points forts (je suis sûre que j'en trouverai d'autres !) : le silence absolu de la nature à toute heure de la journée, le chant des oiseaux (et des geckos dans le désert) qui accompagne le lever et le coucher du soleil, l'odeur chaude des toits de chaume....cela aussi pour moi, c'est la Namibie !😊 Long live Namibia !
Tok Tokkie Trails : 3 jours de rando à pied dans le Désert du Namib avec un guide, coucher dans un lit de camp à la belle étoile, douche improvisée mais bien chaude, repas délicieux à la lueur des lampes à pétrole, monde des insectes, reptiles et oiseaux en découverte grâce au guide, un ciel étoilé inoui !
Grootberg Lodge : la plus belle vue des lodges ! chalets au bord du cirque d'un canyon époustouflant à 1700 m d'altitude, du personnel aux petits soins, et toujours une cuisine délicieuse comme partout en Namibie !
Cheetah Conservation Fund (CCF près d'Otjiwarongo): un programme et des hommes et femmes qui aiment les guépards, s'en soucient comme de leur prunelle, et nous font partager le respect de ces big cats absolument magnifiques, ronronnant comme des chats ! Si vous voulez tout savoir sur les guépards et la magnifique entreprise de leur sauvegarde par une scientifique américaine, faites le Belebenno Tour, 3 heures de game drive special endangered Cheetahs.
Zebra River Lodge : dans les Montagnes Zaris à l'est de 80 km de Sesriem, des chalets quasiment creusés dans la montagne au fond d'un canyon (demander le chalet le plus haut, je crois que c'est le 9). Ici, un accueil merveilleux de Rob et Marianne et de leur équipe: des repas délicieux (de la lotte en plein désert, j'y croyais pas !!), Rob ze top guide sur les animaux et les sentiers de rando : faut y rester au moins 2 nuits pour profiter de l'envoutement ! Colonie de babouins en observation des activités humaines au dessus de la ferme !
Point Noir😠: le seul de notre périple : la cheetah farm Otjitokongwe près de Kamanjab pour ceux qui veulent regarder dans les yeux une famille de Afrikaner farmers, à l'accueil rude et sec comme un coup de fouet ! ils se prétendent conservateurs amis des guépards et en conservent une 20taine dans un park, un coup d'oeil sur ces animaux pour voir qu'ils ne sont gardés que pour attirer les touristes; par rapport à ceux du CCF, ils m'ont paru mal nourris. Durant la visite, on nous plante au bar avec une bière le temps d'attendre l'heure du "festin" des guépards et surtout que la partie de billard du "guide" soit finie..., le temps aussi d'être écoeurée par les tristes trophées animaliers qui décorent le bar (oreilles d'éléphants, griffes d'aigle, peau de python, crane de léopard) avec en prime une pancarte alléchante "if you don't pay, you'll be the next one !" c'est sûr, on n'est chez des prédateurs de la faune sauvage ! un des trois guépards apprivoisés et vivant dans la ferme est un rescapé du tir du propriétaire ("j'ai tué sa mère parce qu'elle tuait mon bétail" me dit-il très froidement). pour finir le cheetah drive, le fiston du fermier nous plante devant un grand enclos où il dit avoir recueilli 1 femelle et trois petits: il balance de la viande d'âne par dessus la cloture et nous dit : attendez -là, elle viendra c'est sûr, ya qu'à attendre ! et là-dessus, Fiston se barre avec son 4x4 ! Le contre-exemple parfait de l'accueil chaleureux et spontané qui caractérise la Namibie !
Derniers points forts (je suis sûre que j'en trouverai d'autres !) : le silence absolu de la nature à toute heure de la journée, le chant des oiseaux (et des geckos dans le désert) qui accompagne le lever et le coucher du soleil, l'odeur chaude des toits de chaume....cela aussi pour moi, c'est la Namibie !😊 Long live Namibia !
Karibu sana sana...
Point Noir😠: le seul de notre périple : la cheetah farm Otjitokongwe près de Kamanjab ...
Bonjour, Je n'ai pas vécu comme toi de façon si négative cette visite. Il est vrai qu'ils sont victimes de leur succès et qu'il y a tout les jours beaucoup de monde. L'ideal est d'y passer la nuit, par exemple avant d'arriver à Etosha. Les fils des fermiers sont certes un peu rudes et peu bavard au premier abord mais nous avons pas mal bavardé avec l'un d'eux (Marco je crois me souvenir) D'abord en parlant de Rugby pour briser la glace, et après un peu de tout). La "patronne", la maman des deux chérubins nous a fait un très bon accueil. Sais tu qu'ils sont régulièrerement sollicités par des riches "chasseurs" occidentaux qui proposent plusieurs milliers de dollars pour tirer un guépard et qu'ils ne l'accepterons jamais. Oui ce sont des "farmers", comme on en trouve dans le middle west des USA où dans certaines de nos campagnes (il y a quelques décennies). Des gens qui vivent une vie bien plus rude que la notre, sans trop de filets et qui sont visités quotidiennement par de nombreux touristes dont certains se comportent comme des abrutis (j'en ai vu). Quand à la nourriture, ils donnent en morceaux, 3 ânes par semaine pour une 15ne de guépards plus les springboks ou phacochères qui arrivent à passer la clôture... Je ne les pas trouvé mal nourri. Quand on sait qu'en totale liberté, ils mangent tout les 3 jours en moyenne avec parfois des sautes de repas quand ils se font piquer leur proie... Ceci dit, je comprend que si on ne s'arrete que pour la visite, cela fait un peu usine surtout si il y a beaucoup de monde. Comme nous y avons passé la nuit, les choses étaient plus étalées.
Bonjour, Je n'ai pas vécu comme toi de façon si négative cette visite. Il est vrai qu'ils sont victimes de leur succès et qu'il y a tout les jours beaucoup de monde. L'ideal est d'y passer la nuit, par exemple avant d'arriver à Etosha. Les fils des fermiers sont certes un peu rudes et peu bavard au premier abord mais nous avons pas mal bavardé avec l'un d'eux (Marco je crois me souvenir) D'abord en parlant de Rugby pour briser la glace, et après un peu de tout). La "patronne", la maman des deux chérubins nous a fait un très bon accueil. Sais tu qu'ils sont régulièrerement sollicités par des riches "chasseurs" occidentaux qui proposent plusieurs milliers de dollars pour tirer un guépard et qu'ils ne l'accepterons jamais. Oui ce sont des "farmers", comme on en trouve dans le middle west des USA où dans certaines de nos campagnes (il y a quelques décennies). Des gens qui vivent une vie bien plus rude que la notre, sans trop de filets et qui sont visités quotidiennement par de nombreux touristes dont certains se comportent comme des abrutis (j'en ai vu). Quand à la nourriture, ils donnent en morceaux, 3 ânes par semaine pour une 15ne de guépards plus les springboks ou phacochères qui arrivent à passer la clôture... Je ne les pas trouvé mal nourri. Quand on sait qu'en totale liberté, ils mangent tout les 3 jours en moyenne avec parfois des sautes de repas quand ils se font piquer leur proie... Ceci dit, je comprend que si on ne s'arrete que pour la visite, cela fait un peu usine surtout si il y a beaucoup de monde. Comme nous y avons passé la nuit, les choses étaient plus étalées.
Nous y avons passé la nuit et heureusement que nous avons fait la connaissance de Canadiens avec qui on a passé toute la soirée et la cheetah drive, ils ont eu aussi le sentiment que les fermiers n'étaient pas vraiment animal friendly. j'ai bien ressenti comme toi que la vie du fermier devait être rude et devait manquer de contact avec l'extérieur. quand nous y sommes passés (aux alentours du 22 sept) il n'y avait personne dans leur camping, et dans les chalets, nous n'étions que deux couples: nous avons eu l'impression d'un bout du monde de fermiers coupés du reste. ceci dit, je suis rassurée quand tu me dis qu'ils ne vendraient à aucun prix la mort d'un guépard à quelques obsédés de la gachette. On peut discuter qu'un fermier préserve son bétail, donc son travail, des prédateurs en leur faisant la chasse, quant à ces bouchers qui débarquent à windhoek avec le parfait équipement du nettoyeur, ils sont la honte de notre espèce..le pire c'est qu'ils ont la gueule de l'emploi !
Karibu sana sana...
Je partage l'avis d'Ericarole.
En effet, l'accueil peut paraitre assez froid de prime abord mais on arrive à bien discuter avec eux ..
ils donnent un bon cliché du Farmer du far west et c'est vrai que la démarche peut sembler commerciale mais je n'ai pas trouvé non plus si désagreable cette visite chez eux et les guépards m'ont semblé en très bonne forme.
Le bar en effet nous a fait une drole d'impression mais après tout ce sont des hommes qui aiment aussi la chasse et je pense que cet endroit est leur seul "défouloir"...
Nous y avons passé une nuit et sommes repartis le lendemain tous ravis de notre visite !
Un point important à prendre en compte quand on part en Namibie, c'est la question des pourboires (tips):
tips à chaque station d'essence, pour chaque game drive avec un guide, pour la garde de la voiture à Windhoek ou Swakop.
on a donné environ 5 N$ à chaque fois pour les pompistes ou les "gardiens" de voiture; j'ai vu que d'autres touristes donnaient moins, parfois 3N$ pour deux voitures !!
pour les guides qui faisaient un bon boulot, on a donné jusquà 100 N$.
il parait que le salaire moyen mensuel en Namibie est de 600 n$ ?
pour les dons en nature (vetements, farine, sucre, jouets), mieux vaut soit donner à une association ou à un guide, mais surtout pas au beau milieu d'un attroupement de gens, car alors, çà devient vite ingérable pour tenter d'être équitable (mauvaise expérience à Uis). Les derniers jouets, on a attendu de rencontrer deux enfants seuls sur le bord de la route pour leur donner.
Prendre des gens en stop : on en a pris par deux fois (1 ou 2), ils parlent peu l'anglais et le dialogue est vite restreint, mais ils sont souriants et calmes ; il y en a souvent qui attendent devant les entrées du parc Etosha pour se faire prendre en stop avec l'intervention des gardiens du Parc auprès des touristes qui sortent. on a vu souvent des familles entières au bord des routes nous demander de les prendre, mais, pas assez de place pour embarquer tout le monde, et un peu peur de ne plus pouvoir controler la situation.🤪
Hello, on vient de rentrer d'un périple de 3000 km à travers la Namibie et bien sûr le retour a un gout de déprime, qu'il est dur de revenir en France après 3 semaines de vie sauvage intacte et souveraine en Namibie ! en attendant de faire mon carnet de voyages, quelques points forts à signaler pour ceux qui ont bien de la chance d'être sur le point de partir : partis du 11 au 29/9/08: Nice-Frankfurt-Windhoek arrivée le matin, toute la journée pour partir direct sur la route: c'était le timing idéal Windhoek-Frankfurt-Nice: retour le soir, toute la dernière précieuse journée pour revenir tranquille sur Windhoek. les points forts en émotion : Kayak rando de 2 heures avec les phoques et dauphins de Pelican Point(Walvis Bay) avec Jeanne Eco Marine Kayak Tours: des phoques aussi joueurs que de jeunes chiots (don't feed wild animals !)
Tok Tokkie Trails : 3 jours de rando à pied dans le Désert du Namib avec un guide, coucher dans un lit de camp à la belle étoile, douche improvisée mais bien chaude, repas délicieux à la lueur des lampes à pétrole, monde des insectes, reptiles et oiseaux en découverte grâce au guide, un ciel étoilé inoui !
Grootberg Lodge : la plus belle vue des lodges ! chalets au bord du cirque d'un canyon époustouflant à 1700 m d'altitude, du personnel aux petits soins, et toujours une cuisine délicieuse comme partout en Namibie !
Cheetah Conservation Fund (CCF près d'Otjiwarongo): un programme et des hommes et femmes qui aiment les guépards, s'en soucient comme de leur prunelle, et nous font partager le respect de ces big cats absolument magnifiques, ronronnant comme des chats ! Si vous voulez tout savoir sur les guépards et la magnifique entreprise de leur sauvegarde par une scientifique américaine, faites le Belebenno Tour, 3 heures de game drive special endangered Cheetahs.
Zebra River Lodge : dans les Montagnes Zaris à l'est de 80 km de Sesriem, des chalets quasiment creusés dans la montagne au fond d'un canyon (demander le chalet le plus haut, je crois que c'est le 9). Ici, un accueil merveilleux de Rob et Marianne et de leur équipe: des repas délicieux (de la lotte en plein désert, j'y croyais pas !!), Rob ze top guide sur les animaux et les sentiers de rando : faut y rester au moins 2 nuits pour profiter de l'envoutement ! Colonie de babouins en observation des activités humaines au dessus de la ferme !
Point Noir😠: le seul de notre périple : la cheetah farm Otjitokongwe près de Kamanjab pour ceux qui veulent regarder dans les yeux une famille de Afrikaner farmers, à l'accueil rude et sec comme un coup de fouet ! ils se prétendent conservateurs amis des guépards et en conservent une 20taine dans un park, un coup d'oeil sur ces animaux pour voir qu'ils ne sont gardés que pour attirer les touristes; par rapport à ceux du CCF, ils m'ont paru mal nourris. Durant la visite, on nous plante au bar avec une bière le temps d'attendre l'heure du "festin" des guépards et surtout que la partie de billard du "guide" soit finie..., le temps aussi d'être écoeurée par les tristes trophées animaliers qui décorent le bar (oreilles d'éléphants, griffes d'aigle, peau de python, crane de léopard) avec en prime une pancarte alléchante "if you don't pay, you'll be the next one !" c'est sûr, on n'est chez des prédateurs de la faune sauvage ! un des trois guépards apprivoisés et vivant dans la ferme est un rescapé du tir du propriétaire ("j'ai tué sa mère parce qu'elle tuait mon bétail" me dit-il très froidement). pour finir le cheetah drive, le fiston du fermier nous plante devant un grand enclos où il dit avoir recueilli 1 femelle et trois petits: il balance de la viande d'âne par dessus la cloture et nous dit : attendez -là, elle viendra c'est sûr, ya qu'à attendre ! et là-dessus, Fiston se barre avec son 4x4 ! Le contre-exemple parfait de l'accueil chaleureux et spontané qui caractérise la Namibie !
Derniers points forts (je suis sûre que j'en trouverai d'autres !) : le silence absolu de la nature à toute heure de la journée, le chant des oiseaux (et des geckos dans le désert) qui accompagne le lever et le coucher du soleil, l'odeur chaude des toits de chaume....cela aussi pour moi, c'est la Namibie !😊 Long live Namibia !
pour les dons en nature (vetements, farine, sucre, jouets), mieux vaut soit donner à une association ou à un guide, mais surtout pas au beau milieu d'un attroupement de gens, car alors, çà devient vite ingérable pour tenter d'être équitable (mauvaise expérience à Uis). Les derniers jouets, on a attendu de rencontrer deux enfants seuls sur le bord de la route pour leur donner.
Prendre des gens en stop : on en a pris par deux fois (1 ou 2), ils parlent peu l'anglais et le dialogue est vite restreint, mais ils sont souriants et calmes ; il y en a souvent qui attendent devant les entrées du parc Etosha pour se faire prendre en stop avec l'intervention des gardiens du Parc auprès des touristes qui sortent. on a vu souvent des familles entières au bord des routes nous demander de les prendre, mais, pas assez de place pour embarquer tout le monde, et un peu peur de ne plus pouvoir controler la situation.🤪
Hello, on vient de rentrer d'un périple de 3000 km à travers la Namibie et bien sûr le retour a un gout de déprime, qu'il est dur de revenir en France après 3 semaines de vie sauvage intacte et souveraine en Namibie ! en attendant de faire mon carnet de voyages, quelques points forts à signaler pour ceux qui ont bien de la chance d'être sur le point de partir : partis du 11 au 29/9/08: Nice-Frankfurt-Windhoek arrivée le matin, toute la journée pour partir direct sur la route: c'était le timing idéal Windhoek-Frankfurt-Nice: retour le soir, toute la dernière précieuse journée pour revenir tranquille sur Windhoek. les points forts en émotion : Kayak rando de 2 heures avec les phoques et dauphins de Pelican Point(Walvis Bay) avec Jeanne Eco Marine Kayak Tours: des phoques aussi joueurs que de jeunes chiots (don't feed wild animals !)
Tok Tokkie Trails : 3 jours de rando à pied dans le Désert du Namib avec un guide, coucher dans un lit de camp à la belle étoile, douche improvisée mais bien chaude, repas délicieux à la lueur des lampes à pétrole, monde des insectes, reptiles et oiseaux en découverte grâce au guide, un ciel étoilé inoui !
Grootberg Lodge : la plus belle vue des lodges ! chalets au bord du cirque d'un canyon époustouflant à 1700 m d'altitude, du personnel aux petits soins, et toujours une cuisine délicieuse comme partout en Namibie !
Cheetah Conservation Fund (CCF près d'Otjiwarongo): un programme et des hommes et femmes qui aiment les guépards, s'en soucient comme de leur prunelle, et nous font partager le respect de ces big cats absolument magnifiques, ronronnant comme des chats ! Si vous voulez tout savoir sur les guépards et la magnifique entreprise de leur sauvegarde par une scientifique américaine, faites le Belebenno Tour, 3 heures de game drive special endangered Cheetahs.
Zebra River Lodge : dans les Montagnes Zaris à l'est de 80 km de Sesriem, des chalets quasiment creusés dans la montagne au fond d'un canyon (demander le chalet le plus haut, je crois que c'est le 9). Ici, un accueil merveilleux de Rob et Marianne et de leur équipe: des repas délicieux (de la lotte en plein désert, j'y croyais pas !!), Rob ze top guide sur les animaux et les sentiers de rando : faut y rester au moins 2 nuits pour profiter de l'envoutement ! Colonie de babouins en observation des activités humaines au dessus de la ferme !
Point Noir😠: le seul de notre périple : la cheetah farm Otjitokongwe près de Kamanjab pour ceux qui veulent regarder dans les yeux une famille de Afrikaner farmers, à l'accueil rude et sec comme un coup de fouet ! ils se prétendent conservateurs amis des guépards et en conservent une 20taine dans un park, un coup d'oeil sur ces animaux pour voir qu'ils ne sont gardés que pour attirer les touristes; par rapport à ceux du CCF, ils m'ont paru mal nourris. Durant la visite, on nous plante au bar avec une bière le temps d'attendre l'heure du "festin" des guépards et surtout que la partie de billard du "guide" soit finie..., le temps aussi d'être écoeurée par les tristes trophées animaliers qui décorent le bar (oreilles d'éléphants, griffes d'aigle, peau de python, crane de léopard) avec en prime une pancarte alléchante "if you don't pay, you'll be the next one !" c'est sûr, on n'est chez des prédateurs de la faune sauvage ! un des trois guépards apprivoisés et vivant dans la ferme est un rescapé du tir du propriétaire ("j'ai tué sa mère parce qu'elle tuait mon bétail" me dit-il très froidement). pour finir le cheetah drive, le fiston du fermier nous plante devant un grand enclos où il dit avoir recueilli 1 femelle et trois petits: il balance de la viande d'âne par dessus la cloture et nous dit : attendez -là, elle viendra c'est sûr, ya qu'à attendre ! et là-dessus, Fiston se barre avec son 4x4 ! Le contre-exemple parfait de l'accueil chaleureux et spontané qui caractérise la Namibie !
Derniers points forts (je suis sûre que j'en trouverai d'autres !) : le silence absolu de la nature à toute heure de la journée, le chant des oiseaux (et des geckos dans le désert) qui accompagne le lever et le coucher du soleil, l'odeur chaude des toits de chaume....cela aussi pour moi, c'est la Namibie !😊 Long live Namibia !
Karibu sana sana...
En ce qui concerne cheetah farm, j'ai beaucoup aimé la visite (pas eu la chance de voir des guépards ailleurs), beaucoup aimé le camping, cependant je suis d'accord avec toi que les "hôtes "sont rudes .Nous sommes arrivés avec un jour d'avance pour faire plaisir aux enfants, mais pas moyen de voir les guépards apprivoisés avant le tour, du coup on a fait une petite rando dans le coin très sympa pour voir les snake trees.Nous avons passé un moment tous seuls avec eux au bar, car nous avions entamé une partie de billard, ils sont venus (prendre la place), et ma foi, n'ayant pas eu l'idée (ni même l'intention) de parler rugby, les quelques essais de nouer la conversation restèrent totalement infructueux. Je n'ai pas du tout apprécié non plus les trophés au mur du bar, que j'ai trouvés de mauvais goût, notamment les fesses de phacochères, et le "zizi" d'éléphant!
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Je suis entièrement d'accord avec vous sur la cheetah farm ou Otjitongwe près de Kamanjab.. J'y suis allée 2 fois et j'ai toujours apprécié leur accueil. J'ai beaucoup discuté avec eux en leur demandant de me parler de leur vie. Elle est rude, difficile, mais ils aiment les guépards. Marco dormait avec l'un d'eux qu'il avait apprivoisé comme un chat. C'est vraiment une passion pour eux et ils les nourissent très bien. Une fois, un guépard ne pouvait pas manger car les dominants l'en empechait et lui piquait sa viande à chaque fois. Ils prévoyaient toujours un morceau de plus pour pouvoir le lui donner après. De plus, ils n'ont aucune aide gouvernementale contrairement aux fondations beaucoup plus récentes.
Le site est assez beau avec les arbres python que je n'ai jamais vu ailleurs.
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J'espère que les pros sont aux aguets.
Mars ou Mai 2027. du genre 15 j dans le Western Cape puis 15 j dans le KNP sud.
Arrivée soit à PE soit à Georges. Les pros savent que je connais un peu le coin...que je ne campe pas...que mes logements peuvent être simples et paumés, en self catering mais que le basique + est requis...que je cherche des coins plutôt hors des sentiers battus...sur un mode soft... De Georges: Arrivée tardive... repos nécessaire... Herolds bay à partir de Georges pour N1 Tsitsikamma me fait de l'oeil (Storms river)... avec ou sans stop à Knysna question: quel est l'état actuel de la pass de Knyskna à Uniondale ? R339 Et tant que j'y suis l'état de la R340 Tsitsi, Knysna et mes questions restent valables si c'est arrivée à PE.
La Swartberg semble encore coupée ? Une idée de logement à Prince Albert ? Si je franchis l'escarpement je continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... des opinions ? De là... Tankwa Karoo ou Mount Cedar (ou les deux) Puis redescente vers la mer... les hauts de Hermanus ou Kogelberg NR (des opinions sur celle ci ?)...
ou
Plus classique le long de la côte...
Si j'arrive (assez tard à PE)... des idées sur un logement dans ce petit coin ? Sachant que le Nyathi camp me fait un clin d'oeil... (pour l'histoire... il y a un peu longtemps j'ai séjourné au Riverbend (même secteur d'Addo, concession privée)... et j'ai visité les ruines de ce lodge abandonné à l'époque et visiblement refait depuis... qui se situe dans une partie très peu visitée d'Addo...). Un pro aurait-il des retours ? Bon ben voilà... Evidemment je suis preneur de tout autre avis ou conseil !
Mars ou Mai 2027. du genre 15 j dans le Western Cape puis 15 j dans le KNP sud.
Arrivée soit à PE soit à Georges. Les pros savent que je connais un peu le coin...que je ne campe pas...que mes logements peuvent être simples et paumés, en self catering mais que le basique + est requis...que je cherche des coins plutôt hors des sentiers battus...sur un mode soft... De Georges: Arrivée tardive... repos nécessaire... Herolds bay à partir de Georges pour N1 Tsitsikamma me fait de l'oeil (Storms river)... avec ou sans stop à Knysna question: quel est l'état actuel de la pass de Knyskna à Uniondale ? R339 Et tant que j'y suis l'état de la R340 Tsitsi, Knysna et mes questions restent valables si c'est arrivée à PE.
La Swartberg semble encore coupée ? Une idée de logement à Prince Albert ? Si je franchis l'escarpement je continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... des opinions ? De là... Tankwa Karoo ou Mount Cedar (ou les deux) Puis redescente vers la mer... les hauts de Hermanus ou Kogelberg NR (des opinions sur celle ci ?)...
ou
Plus classique le long de la côte...
Si j'arrive (assez tard à PE)... des idées sur un logement dans ce petit coin ? Sachant que le Nyathi camp me fait un clin d'oeil... (pour l'histoire... il y a un peu longtemps j'ai séjourné au Riverbend (même secteur d'Addo, concession privée)... et j'ai visité les ruines de ce lodge abandonné à l'époque et visiblement refait depuis... qui se situe dans une partie très peu visitée d'Addo...). Un pro aurait-il des retours ? Bon ben voilà... Evidemment je suis preneur de tout autre avis ou conseil !
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
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Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!







