Rhino Tracking Palmwag (Namibie)
by Afonlaigamel
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour à tous
énieme interrogation pour tromper son impatience... Bon je suis tenté par le rhino tracking proposé par le lodge de palmwag soit une journée de 6H30 à 17H environ
seulement ce serait de loin pour nous la plus chere des activités choisie .. bien plus qu'etosha, le CCF et autre
alors il est annoncé qu'"une partie est reversé en soutien à Rhino trust et à Torra ce que je cautionne tout à fait MAIS vue l'étendue de la concession , l'activité organisée par Palmwag vaut -elle vraiment le coup pour s'offrir ce luxe , sinon un nuit au campsite et une journée en solo avec son vehicule et un peu de chance nous offrirait elle autant ?
QU'en pensez vous ? j'ai effectivement lu quelques bons retours mais je bloque sur le prix !
MERCI
Marc
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Bonjour Marc,
N$ 2000 par personne ? Je comprends que tu cherches à savoir si ça vaut le coup 😉
On sera à Palmwag fin juillet pour 2 nuits mais, bien que la réponse m'intéresse, je ne crois pas qu'on choisira cette activité...pour une question de coût 😕
Une balade (à pied) guidée est également proposée, ce sera l'occasion de "lâcher" un moment la voiture. 😇
Pascal
N$ 2000 par personne ? Je comprends que tu cherches à savoir si ça vaut le coup 😉
On sera à Palmwag fin juillet pour 2 nuits mais, bien que la réponse m'intéresse, je ne crois pas qu'on choisira cette activité...pour une question de coût 😕
Une balade (à pied) guidée est également proposée, ce sera l'occasion de "lâcher" un moment la voiture. 😇
Pascal
Pascal
Salut,
Il y a deux hypothèses:
- Soit ce sont des rhinos avec collier GPS (comme à Livingstone, Zambie), et dans ce cas ce n' est pas amusant et beaucoup trop cher.
- Soit ce sont des rhinos sans collier GPS (ce que je crois) et dans ce cas (je connais pas mal Palmwag), les chances que tu voies le bestiau sont plus que limitées, le jeu n' en vaut sans doute pas la chandelle.
Parmi mes copains voyageurs, il y en a un seul qui a vu en self drive un rhino à Palmwag (au printemps 2013), comme d' habitude par le plus grand des hasards:
http://tourleader.wifeo.com/recit-namibie-3-4.php
(dernière photo de la page).
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Il y a deux hypothèses:
- Soit ce sont des rhinos avec collier GPS (comme à Livingstone, Zambie), et dans ce cas ce n' est pas amusant et beaucoup trop cher.
- Soit ce sont des rhinos sans collier GPS (ce que je crois) et dans ce cas (je connais pas mal Palmwag), les chances que tu voies le bestiau sont plus que limitées, le jeu n' en vaut sans doute pas la chandelle.
Parmi mes copains voyageurs, il y en a un seul qui a vu en self drive un rhino à Palmwag (au printemps 2013), comme d' habitude par le plus grand des hasards:
http://tourleader.wifeo.com/recit-namibie-3-4.php
(dernière photo de la page).
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Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
(dernière photo de la page).
J'imagine qu'elle a été prise au téléobjectif, il devait donc être bien loin ce rhino...😐
J'imagine qu'elle a été prise au téléobjectif, il devait donc être bien loin ce rhino...😐
Pascal
Oui mais rencontre exceptionnelle, qui n' a rien à voir avec Etosha, Kruger etc...
Palmwag n' est pas une réserve classique, juste un bout de désert, tellement peu peuplé qu 'on y voit des animaux en liberté..
Palmwag n' est pas une réserve classique, juste un bout de désert, tellement peu peuplé qu 'on y voit des animaux en liberté..
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Merci pour ce retour...
le mieux en somme c'est d'oublier le rhino , de s'offrir une incursion en self drive et de se rejouir de chaque rencontre !!!
avant d'expirer, inspirez-vous !
Merci pour ce retour...
le mieux en somme c'est d'oublier le rhino , de s'offrir une incursion en self drive et de se rejouir de chaque rencontre !!!
Re..
C est exactement mon point de vue (qui n' engage que moi) tu en verras autant que les autres sans jamais etre decu.
A l' entree de Palmwag, prends le temps de discuter avec le garde , il te dira ou des animaux tels que lions et autres especes rares ont ete vus recemment.
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Re..
C est exactement mon point de vue (qui n' engage que moi) tu en verras autant que les autres sans jamais etre decu.
A l' entree de Palmwag, prends le temps de discuter avec le garde , il te dira ou des animaux tels que lions et autres especes rares ont ete vus recemment.
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Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
je vais quand meme tenter le camping afin de partir tot et avoir un max de chance de mon côté de voir des animaux
J'ai lu que le rhino est en augmentation et que ce serait le dernier endroit où ils seraient encore vraiment libres mais trop peu nombreux pour être certains d'en voir
donc en croiser un même de loin (d'ailleurs vaut mieux pour nous ..) sera la cerise de la bonne tranche qu'on se sera offert !
quant au parcours à pied tu as aussi ceux du Waterberg, Pascal mais j'ai comme l'impression que le site à moins que ce ne soit que le campsite , a nettement moins bonne presse ?
alors là je remets une piece dans la machine...
Merci à vous en tous cas !!
Marc
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Marc,
Au Waterberg, la promenade permet de monter sur le plateau (30 mn), histoire de voir le paysage sur la plaine. Qq animaux croisés en montant, et c'est tout. Des babouins traînent autour des poubelles des bungalows.
il n'est pas possible de se balader sur le plateau sans guide. Il s'agit alors d'un trek accompagné.
En 2011, au White lady lodge, les sorties pour voir les éléphants n'avaient pas lieu , faute d'animaux à proximité.
Salut
Les balades au Waterberg sont sympa mais ce n est pas a mon avis un lieu de recherche animaliere tous les animaux sont importes sauf les babouins et on ne voit buffle(s) et autre rhino qu en faisant le game drive qui est long et cher et AMHA pas tres follichon.
A+
Les balades au Waterberg sont sympa mais ce n est pas a mon avis un lieu de recherche animaliere tous les animaux sont importes sauf les babouins et on ne voit buffle(s) et autre rhino qu en faisant le game drive qui est long et cher et AMHA pas tres follichon.
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Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
On aura plus de chance de voir des elephants du cote de Palmwag m'a t-on dit, en me renseignant sur place je pourrais peut -etre en suivre à la trace ? D'ailleurs ils ne proposent pas de tracking specifique aux elephants, au lodge de palmwag ..,
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A l' entree de Palmwag, prends le temps de discuter avec le garde , il te dira ou des animaux tels que lions et autres especes rares ont ete vus recemment
Ca c'est un bon tuyau, merci !
Ca c'est un bon tuyau, merci !
Pascal
quant au parcours à pied tu as aussi ceux du Waterberg, Pascal mais j'ai comme l'impression que le site à moins que ce ne soit que le campsite , a nettement moins bonne presse ?
Au Waterberg on fera la balade de 30 mn dont parle Doumechris. Quant à Palmwag, comme on y reste 2 nuits, on pourra faire un self drive et une promenade guidée ce qui permettra d'avoir des explications sur la faune et la flore par données par quelqu'un du coin.
Sinon je pense que le Spitzkoppe se prête plutôt bien au longues balades dans les rochers (les enfants vont aimer ça !).
Au Waterberg on fera la balade de 30 mn dont parle Doumechris. Quant à Palmwag, comme on y reste 2 nuits, on pourra faire un self drive et une promenade guidée ce qui permettra d'avoir des explications sur la faune et la flore par données par quelqu'un du coin.
Sinon je pense que le Spitzkoppe se prête plutôt bien au longues balades dans les rochers (les enfants vont aimer ça !).
Pascal
Salut,
Je serai à Palmwag aussi pour 2 jours début août, tu nous précèdera.
Pour ma part, je ferai du camping sauvage dans le concession (c'est possible), en espérant rencontrer aussi les fameux rhinos dans le désert (jamais vus ailleurs qu'à Etosha sur 5 voyages) Je crois également qu'il faut zapper le rhino tracking cher et sans garantie même la probabilité de rencontre, avec un trakker, sera certainement supérieure au hasard et à la chance.
Pour les éléphants il faut suivre les litsà sec pour avoir le maximum de chance de les trouver
Pour ma part, je ferai du camping sauvage dans le concession (c'est possible), en espérant rencontrer aussi les fameux rhinos dans le désert (jamais vus ailleurs qu'à Etosha sur 5 voyages) Je crois également qu'il faut zapper le rhino tracking cher et sans garantie même la probabilité de rencontre, avec un trakker, sera certainement supérieure au hasard et à la chance.
Pour les éléphants il faut suivre les litsà sec pour avoir le maximum de chance de les trouver
Hello,
Krikri en a vu un de près au milieu du Damaraland, sauvage etoutetout 🙂🙂🙂
Une journée exceptionnelle ! La rencontre avec ce rhinocéros noir sauvage vaut bien celle d'un troupeau d'éléphants ! Dans la famille des Big Five comprenant le lion, le léopard, le buffle, le rhinocéros noir et l'éléphant, nous sommes ravis d'avoir déjà mis à notre actif le quatrième de la liste.
Un rhinocéros noir en plein milieu du Damaraland... rencontre rarissime 🙂!

http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5707794;#5707794 😎😎😎
Pour les éléphants il y en a dans le secteur de Twyfelfontein 😛
Krikri en a vu un de près au milieu du Damaraland, sauvage etoutetout 🙂🙂🙂
Une journée exceptionnelle ! La rencontre avec ce rhinocéros noir sauvage vaut bien celle d'un troupeau d'éléphants ! Dans la famille des Big Five comprenant le lion, le léopard, le buffle, le rhinocéros noir et l'éléphant, nous sommes ravis d'avoir déjà mis à notre actif le quatrième de la liste.
Un rhinocéros noir en plein milieu du Damaraland... rencontre rarissime 🙂!

http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5707794;#5707794 😎😎😎
Pour les éléphants il y en a dans le secteur de Twyfelfontein 😛
Super carnet de voyage et photos magnifiquessss on t'en voudrait presque...D'être si loin du départ !
Merci pour toutes ces infos, je pense que le mieux sera quand même de se rencarder sur place sur les mouvements d'animaux ..Et de touristes !
on risque de se croiser aussi , je serai au Spitskoppe et dans le Damaraland entre le 15 et le 20 Juillet si tout va bien !!!
avant d'expirer, inspirez-vous !
Salut,
Pour ma part, je ferai du camping sauvage dans le concession (c'est possible)
Hello,
Il y a des campings dédiés dans la concession, ils sont gérés par le Lodge, le camping sauvage n' est possible que si on traverse la concession pour se rendre directement à Puros (ou l' inverse), deux jours de pistes très caillouteuses sans rien, un bonheur pour moi...
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Pour ma part, je ferai du camping sauvage dans le concession (c'est possible)
Hello,
Il y a des campings dédiés dans la concession, ils sont gérés par le Lodge, le camping sauvage n' est possible que si on traverse la concession pour se rendre directement à Puros (ou l' inverse), deux jours de pistes très caillouteuses sans rien, un bonheur pour moi...
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Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Salut,
Je serai à Palmwag aussi pour 2 jours début août, tu nous précèdera.
Promis on essaiera de laisser rangé 😉 Pour nous Palmwag ce sera les 30 et 31 juillet. Ensuite on va vers le sud (Twyfelfontein, Brandberg, Spitzkoppe, Swakopmund, etc.) Si tu arrives du sud on se croisera forcément ! 😎
Pour ma part, je ferai du camping sauvage dans le concession
Ce sera notre premier séjour là bas, on restera sur du camping classique 😇
Promis on essaiera de laisser rangé 😉 Pour nous Palmwag ce sera les 30 et 31 juillet. Ensuite on va vers le sud (Twyfelfontein, Brandberg, Spitzkoppe, Swakopmund, etc.) Si tu arrives du sud on se croisera forcément ! 😎
Pour ma part, je ferai du camping sauvage dans le concession
Ce sera notre premier séjour là bas, on restera sur du camping classique 😇
Pascal
Super carnet de voyage et photos magnifiquessss
Super effectivement le carnet de Christine remonté par Max68, je l'avais adoré ! Il y a encore plus de photos sur son blog : https://sites.google.com/site/fabuleuxvoyagesnamibie/
on risque de se croiser aussi , je serai au Spitskoppe et dans le Damaraland entre le 15 et le 20 Juillet si tout va bien !!!
Si je me souviens bien tu seras en Namibie en Juillet. Nous on arrivera à WIndhoek le 24. On ne se croisera sans doute pas mais on pourra échanger sur nos impressions au retour ! 🙂
Super effectivement le carnet de Christine remonté par Max68, je l'avais adoré ! Il y a encore plus de photos sur son blog : https://sites.google.com/site/fabuleuxvoyagesnamibie/
on risque de se croiser aussi , je serai au Spitskoppe et dans le Damaraland entre le 15 et le 20 Juillet si tout va bien !!!
Si je me souviens bien tu seras en Namibie en Juillet. Nous on arrivera à WIndhoek le 24. On ne se croisera sans doute pas mais on pourra échanger sur nos impressions au retour ! 🙂
Pascal
deux jours de pistes très caillouteuses sans rien, un bonheur pour moi...
Et ton dos, il ne t'en veut pas trop ? 😏
Et ton dos, il ne t'en veut pas trop ? 😏
Pascal
deux jours de pistes très caillouteuses sans rien, un bonheur pour moi...
Et ton dos, il ne t'en veut pas trop ? 😏
Hello,
Je roule en Land Rover Defender avec suspension renforcée et sièges très durs mais aussi très droits, mes lombaires sont doucement en train de se souder vu l' arthrose et mon âge avancé, une fois par an on m' infiltre des saloperies dans la colonne pour éviter (avec succès) les sciatiques (cela m' évite de traverser les aéroports en fauteuil roulant ou avec des béquilles), et je n' a absolument aucun mal de dos dans le Def, à la différence de la Mercos quotidienne dont les sièges sont trop penchés et trop mous...
En plus quand la voiture t' appartient et que tu paies toi même les réparations, tu roules un peu moins comme un sauvage..
A+
Et ton dos, il ne t'en veut pas trop ? 😏
Hello,
Je roule en Land Rover Defender avec suspension renforcée et sièges très durs mais aussi très droits, mes lombaires sont doucement en train de se souder vu l' arthrose et mon âge avancé, une fois par an on m' infiltre des saloperies dans la colonne pour éviter (avec succès) les sciatiques (cela m' évite de traverser les aéroports en fauteuil roulant ou avec des béquilles), et je n' a absolument aucun mal de dos dans le Def, à la différence de la Mercos quotidienne dont les sièges sont trop penchés et trop mous...
En plus quand la voiture t' appartient et que tu paies toi même les réparations, tu roules un peu moins comme un sauvage..
A+
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
, le camping sauvage n' est possible que si on traverse la concession pour se rendre directement à Puros (ou l' inverse), deux jours de pistes très caillouteuses sans rien, un bonheur pour moi...
A+
Non tu peux faire du camping sauvage aussi sans aller jusqu'à Purros, sans traverser la concession
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Non tu peux faire du camping sauvage aussi sans aller jusqu'à Purros, sans traverser la concession
On ne va pas à swakopmund, on coupe par l'intérieur 1/08 et 2/08 à Wustenquell, le 3/8 au spitzkoppe le 4 et 5 au Brandberg et le 6 et 7 à Palmwag !
On ne va même pas se croiser!
On ne va même pas se croiser!
En plus quand la voiture t' appartient et que tu paies toi même les réparations, tu roules un peu moins comme un sauvage..
Et même quand tu la loues il vaut mieux se tenir à carreau vu la faible couverture des assurances 😕
Je vois que tu voyages un peu partout dans le monde, tu te déplaces avec ton propre véhicule ? Voyage en bateau ?
Et même quand tu la loues il vaut mieux se tenir à carreau vu la faible couverture des assurances 😕
Je vois que tu voyages un peu partout dans le monde, tu te déplaces avec ton propre véhicule ? Voyage en bateau ?
Pascal
On ne va pas à swakopmund, on coupe par l'intérieur 1/08 et 2/08 à Wustenquell, le 3/8 au spitzkoppe le 4 et 5 au Brandberg et le 6 et 7 à Palmwag !
On ne va même pas se croiser!
A moins qu'on ne se "voit" pas au Spitzkoppe, et c'est tout à fait possible le site à l'air plutôt très grand et les campsite éloignés les uns des autres, il est tout à fait envisageable de s'y croiser vu que nous aussi on y sera le 3/8 😇
On ne va même pas se croiser!
A moins qu'on ne se "voit" pas au Spitzkoppe, et c'est tout à fait possible le site à l'air plutôt très grand et les campsite éloignés les uns des autres, il est tout à fait envisageable de s'y croiser vu que nous aussi on y sera le 3/8 😇
Pascal
En plus quand la voiture t' appartient et que tu paies toi même les réparations, tu roules un peu moins comme un sauvage..
Et même quand tu la loues il vaut mieux se tenir à carreau vu la faible couverture des assurances 😕
Je vois que tu voyages un peu partout dans le monde, tu te déplaces avec ton propre véhicule ? Voyage en bateau ?
Hello
Mon Def est en Afrique Australe depuis 3 ans et va sans doute y rester quelques annees
Autrement differentes formules je prevois plutot achat revente sur place pour d autres continents tels Australie ou Amerique du Sud.
Je suis un retraite oisif.
A+
Et même quand tu la loues il vaut mieux se tenir à carreau vu la faible couverture des assurances 😕
Je vois que tu voyages un peu partout dans le monde, tu te déplaces avec ton propre véhicule ? Voyage en bateau ?
Hello
Mon Def est en Afrique Australe depuis 3 ans et va sans doute y rester quelques annees
Autrement differentes formules je prevois plutot achat revente sur place pour d autres continents tels Australie ou Amerique du Sud.
Je suis un retraite oisif.
A+
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
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Emmanuel



Emmanuel

Waouh impressionnant ... à quelle distance etais- tu ? TU nous présentes cette belle rencontre Emmanuel ? c'etait dans le Damaraland , je presume, t"etais en solo ?
à suivre donc !
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Hello,
oui dans le Damaraland. On campait avec ma femme et mes enfants, on était partis plusieurs jours pour voir des éléphants. En fait le secret pour voir des rhinos c'est d'y passer du temps. D'essayer de trouver des traces, à force d'avoir des infos sur leurs territoires. Le territoire de chaque rhino est très vaste et ce sont des animaux timides. Mais ils ont leurs petites habitudes qui durent si ils ne sont pas dérangés.
Au détour d'un chemin, derrière une butte, il était en train de dormir sous un arbre. Arret de la voiture, on approche (pas trop) sans bruit on se planque derrière les cailloux et on observe. photo 1 Au bout d'un moment il nous a entendu et c'est la fuite Au moindre bruit ils détalent souvent. Ce qu'on voit sur la photo 2. Puis s'arretent à bonne distance pour jauger la situation photo 3 Il ne faut surtout pas les suivre. Il peut arriver que des meres poursuivies abandonnent leur petit. Ici je pense que c'est une femelle.
Je connais des personnes qui vivent en Namibie depuis 20 ans et qui n'en on vu qu'une fois.
Mais il faut tenter ta chance disons 15 jours pleins dans le Damaraland....🙂
Emmanuel
oui dans le Damaraland. On campait avec ma femme et mes enfants, on était partis plusieurs jours pour voir des éléphants. En fait le secret pour voir des rhinos c'est d'y passer du temps. D'essayer de trouver des traces, à force d'avoir des infos sur leurs territoires. Le territoire de chaque rhino est très vaste et ce sont des animaux timides. Mais ils ont leurs petites habitudes qui durent si ils ne sont pas dérangés.
Au détour d'un chemin, derrière une butte, il était en train de dormir sous un arbre. Arret de la voiture, on approche (pas trop) sans bruit on se planque derrière les cailloux et on observe. photo 1 Au bout d'un moment il nous a entendu et c'est la fuite Au moindre bruit ils détalent souvent. Ce qu'on voit sur la photo 2. Puis s'arretent à bonne distance pour jauger la situation photo 3 Il ne faut surtout pas les suivre. Il peut arriver que des meres poursuivies abandonnent leur petit. Ici je pense que c'est une femelle.
Je connais des personnes qui vivent en Namibie depuis 20 ans et qui n'en on vu qu'une fois.
Mais il faut tenter ta chance disons 15 jours pleins dans le Damaraland....🙂
Emmanuel
Une bonne alternative, bien moins cher que Palmwag, est de faire un rhino tracking avec Grootberg Lodge dans le Canyon de Grootberg. Les guides du lodge m'ont affirmé qu'il y a une chance sur 2 de voir un rhino du désert lors de leur tracking, ce qui serait un score excellent. Le site est superbe, l'un des plus beaux de Namibie selon moi, et la zone à inspecter est beaucoup plus restreinte dans le canyon qu'à Palmwag, augmentant ainsi les chances de rencontres, d'autant plus que les trackers connaissent les habitudes des rhinos du Conservatoire de Grootberg.
Merci à vous deux pour ces infos, on restera une semaine dans le Damaraland pour évoluer de camps en camps , de petites étapes donc pour rester dans une zone relativement limitée et y passer du temps afin de favoriser les rencontres , glaner des infos...Bref de se poser quoi, avoir des ressentis plutot qu'une succession de flash ou d'impressions fugitives...Enfin dans la limite d'une semaine ! Je vais me renseigner sur le grootberg lodge et leur tracking, savoir si l'on peut camper à proximité ..Car les departs sont evidemment matinaux !
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Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!
Hello
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?







