Demande de visa pour Moscou: achat d'invitation et enregistrement?
by Suizo75
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Voilà, j'étais en train de faire les démarches pour l'obtention du visa russe. Pour le logement, j'ai pris un hostel recommandé par le guide du routard: Godzilla's hostel. Je suis allé sur leur site et cliqué sur la rubrique" visa application". en cliquant, j'arrive sur un site appelé " get russian". j'ai acheté le visa et reçu par mail 2 jours plus tard un formulaire écrit en russe. Sur ce papier, le nom de l hostel n'est pas Godzilla's hostel mais " buddy bear". J'ai essayé de téléphoner et d'écrire pour recevoir une autre invitation avec la mention: Godzilla's hostel. Pas de réponse.
ça sent l'arnaque.
Est-ce quelqu'un a déjà eu le même problème?
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
Aide à l’obtention d’un visa Proposez-vous une aide à l’obtention d’un visa ? Non. Les documents nécessaires à l’obtention d’un visa ne sont PAS disponibles sur hihostels.com – il s’agit exclusivement d’un système de réservation. Certaines auberges ou Associations nationales pourront peut-être vous aider ; consultez directement l’auberge (cf. page de l’auberge pour les coordonnées ) ou l’Association nationale avant d’effectuer votre réservation.
Donc aucune arnaque de hihostels , si on prend le temps de tout lire .
Donc aucune arnaque de hihostels , si on prend le temps de tout lire .
Bonjour,
Je ne suis pas allé sur hihostel mais directement sur le site de Godzillas hostel.com. Or, lorsqu'on clique " visa application" à gauche sur le site de godzillas on est renvoyé directement sur "get russian". depuis plusieurs jours, aucune réponse de leur part pour corriger l'erreur.
Encore un piège pour le touriste avant même d'avoir mis les pieds dans le pays. La prochaine fois, je choisirai les pays qui ne demandent pas de visa. On économise beaucoup de temps et de l'argent.
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
Le visa russe cause des tracas à plus d'un voyageur !
Nous sommes plusieurs, pour éviter de nous prendre la tête trop longtemps, à l'avoir fait par une agence spéciallsée en visa (actionvisa, homevisa....). Pour une vingtaine d'euros en frais de dossier, tu évites les problèmes d'obtention du voucher (et donc de mention du lieu d'hébergement).
Tu ne peux pas utiliser ce procédé ?
www.ceciletoulonneau.com
Dites vous bien que les russes ont parfois les memes problemes que vous , a ceci pres , que vous ne ferez jamais la queue au consulat russe a Paris avec des temperatures de -30 comme ici devant le consultat francais. Sinon , il y a effectivement assez d'agences sur Paris comme I...o voyages qui vous vend le package , Visa , invitation et billet . Ca parait plus cher mais alors , pfffffff , aucun E M B E T E M E N T . Le tout internet c'est votre choix , donc prenez vous en a vous meme et pas aux pays qui exigent des visas !
Aujourd'hui la neige tombe sur Moscou . N'oubliez pas les skis :-)
Aujourd'hui la neige tombe sur Moscou . N'oubliez pas les skis :-)
actionvisas, homevisa, etc se trouvent à Paris. Aucune agence en Suisse. De plus, j'ai vu que le visa coute plus cher pour les Suisses que pour les Français: 140 frs ( 95 euros) . visa expres: 240 frs ( 164 euros).
Généralement, les agences de voyage en Suisse font les démarches pour le visa russe à condition que tu réserves chez elles tout le séjour. bien sûr le prix de l'hotel tourne autour de 200 euros par nuit. Je te laisse faire le calcul pour une semaine. Sans compter que pour l'obtention du visa c'est 100 francs ( 68 euros) de plus à payer.
Vivement que la Russie arrête les visas de tourisme et fasse payer une taxe d'entrée pour les voyageurs. A l'image de ce que font plusieurs pays sudaméricains: Au Chili, les américains doivent payer une taxe de 131 dollars pour entrer au pays. Ce montant correspond au 131 dollars demandé par les USA aux chiliens qui veulent obtenir un visa pour entrer aux USA. C'est une taxe de réciprocité.
http://www.americas-fr.com/tourisme/informations/une-taxe-de-reciprocite-pour-entrer-en-argentine-4027.html
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
😛 il faudrait que tous les pays ' Shenghen' arretent de demander des visas pour les russes souhaitent visiter l'Europe. Arretez de penser que les problemes arrivent toujours de l'est . Les visas sont une mane financiere incroyable . Pas demain la veille qu'entre la Russie et l'Europe , l'Europe et la Russie, cela disparaisse. Salaire moyen en France : 1400 Euros . salaire moyen en Russie : 450 $ . Pourtant c'est le meme prix du visa dans les deux sens .
Voyez comment les femmes russes obtiennent des visas sans probleme pour le luxembourg et posez vous la question pourquoi !
Voyez comment les femmes russes obtiennent des visas sans probleme pour le luxembourg et posez vous la question pourquoi !
Je suis bien d'accord il est temps que la Communauté Européenne arrête de demander des visas au russes, et réciproquement. Nous habitons sur le même continent .....
adepte du camper cellule amovible à l'américaine
Je prend juste l'exemple du Pérou: les péruviens qui veulent venir en Suisse doivent avoir un visa. Par contre, les suisses qui vont au Pérou n'ont pas besoin de visa. En plus, le Pérou n'applique pas de taxe de réciprocité. Allez savoir pourquoi?
Sur le site suivant, j'ai trouvé la liste de tous pays ayant besoin de visa pour entrer en Suisse. A l'inverse, je n'ai pas trouvé la liste des pays qui demandent aux Suisses un visa. Pour le moment, j'en ai trouvé qu'un: Russie
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/fr/home/themen/einreise/merkblatt_einreise.html
Sur le site suivant, j'ai trouvé la liste de tous pays ayant besoin de visa pour entrer en Suisse. A l'inverse, je n'ai pas trouvé la liste des pays qui demandent aux Suisses un visa. Pour le moment, j'en ai trouvé qu'un: Russie
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/fr/home/themen/einreise/merkblatt_einreise.html
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
si je comprend bien, c'est juste pour éviter l'évasion fiscale. Je comprend mieux pourquoi il y a autant de russes établis à Genève. Ils sont venus où ils ont leur compte bancaire.
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
A l'inverse, je n'ai pas trouvé la liste des pays qui demandent aux Suisses un visa. Pour le moment, j'en ai trouvé qu'un: Russie
Dans tes rêves !
Chine Mongolie Ouzbékistan, Kyrgyzstan, Vietnam Bélize Zimbabwe Mozambique Inde Laos Cambodge
sont ceux qui me viennent à l'esprit sans faire de recherches, il y en a encore des dizaines !
Danielle
Dans tes rêves !
Chine Mongolie Ouzbékistan, Kyrgyzstan, Vietnam Bélize Zimbabwe Mozambique Inde Laos Cambodge
sont ceux qui me viennent à l'esprit sans faire de recherches, il y en a encore des dizaines !
Danielle
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Attention, ce n'est pas tout à fait vrai. Dernièrement, les procédures pour obtenir le visa russe se sont un peu durcies. Il est désormais demandé d'indiquer clairement l'endroit où on va résider, même si cela ne correspond pas à ce qui est indiqué sur l'invitation.
Dans le cas où vous ne savez pas, vous pouvez toujours indiquer ce qui est marqué sur l'invitation... mais quoi qu'il en soit, c'est désormais demandé...
Dans le cas où vous ne savez pas, vous pouvez toujours indiquer ce qui est marqué sur l'invitation... mais quoi qu'il en soit, c'est désormais demandé...
Ce n'est pas une arnaque...
Pour obtenir un visa russe, il vous faut obtenir une lettre d'invitation. C'est tout. Et celle-ci est délivrée par les agences touristiques par lesquelles vous êtes censé passer pour organiser votre voyage.
Fort heureusement, comme tout s'arrange toujours en Russie, il existe des agences qui vous permettent d'obtenir une invitation, comme si vous achetiez un voyage en Russie. actionsvisa en France, visahouse en Russie, deux agences par lesquelles je suis passées sans jamais aucun problème. Mais d'autres forumeurs ont donné à plusieurs reprises d'autres références.
C'est vrai que les visas, c'est agaçant, mais c'est comme cela. Et il serait dommage que votre vision de la Russie se trouve écornée par cette mésaventure.
Les règles pour entrer en Russie sont strictes, il faut le savoir. Ca peut être un peu déroutant au premier abord, mais ce n'est pas nécessairement représentatif de ce qu'est la Russie. Et si vous poursuivez votre projet de voyage en Russie, si vous vous permettez d'oublier ce petit accroc et si vous vous ouvrez à ce pays, vous pourrez vraiment vivre un voyage superbe. Le tout est de rester zen face aux conneries bureaucratiques... elles ne sont pas l'apanage de la Russie, on les retrouve partout.
Cela étant, je vous conseille de contacter directement l'hôtel que vous avez réservé pour obtenir des explications. Vous devriez bien arrivé à avoir au téléphone quelqu'un qui parle anglais afin de savoir comment obtenir l'invitation.
Fort heureusement, comme tout s'arrange toujours en Russie, il existe des agences qui vous permettent d'obtenir une invitation, comme si vous achetiez un voyage en Russie. actionsvisa en France, visahouse en Russie, deux agences par lesquelles je suis passées sans jamais aucun problème. Mais d'autres forumeurs ont donné à plusieurs reprises d'autres références.
C'est vrai que les visas, c'est agaçant, mais c'est comme cela. Et il serait dommage que votre vision de la Russie se trouve écornée par cette mésaventure.
Les règles pour entrer en Russie sont strictes, il faut le savoir. Ca peut être un peu déroutant au premier abord, mais ce n'est pas nécessairement représentatif de ce qu'est la Russie. Et si vous poursuivez votre projet de voyage en Russie, si vous vous permettez d'oublier ce petit accroc et si vous vous ouvrez à ce pays, vous pourrez vraiment vivre un voyage superbe. Le tout est de rester zen face aux conneries bureaucratiques... elles ne sont pas l'apanage de la Russie, on les retrouve partout.
Cela étant, je vous conseille de contacter directement l'hôtel que vous avez réservé pour obtenir des explications. Vous devriez bien arrivé à avoir au téléphone quelqu'un qui parle anglais afin de savoir comment obtenir l'invitation.
En effet j'ai une invitation "bidon" et je souhaite séjourner chez un ami.
Que dois-je indiquer sur le formulaire d'immigration à renseigner dans l'avion avant de passer la douane?
Je crains qu'il comparent ce qui est indiqué sur le visa (nom de l'agence, n° ref, n°invitation) et les coordonnées de la personne chez qui je vais résider.
Et si ils comparent peuvent-ils me refouler...?
Merci pour vos réponses.
Bonjour,
indiquez tout simplement le nom et l'adresse de l'agence qui vous a fait l'invitation. Personne n'ira de toute façon vérifier quoi que ce soit... aucune chance d'être refoulé pour cela. Les Russes peuvent être chiants mais pas à ce point là...
Pour ma part, c'est ce que j'ai toujours fait, sans aucun souci. Y compris dans les cas où je suis enregistrée ensuite à une autre adresse...
indiquez tout simplement le nom et l'adresse de l'agence qui vous a fait l'invitation. Personne n'ira de toute façon vérifier quoi que ce soit... aucune chance d'être refoulé pour cela. Les Russes peuvent être chiants mais pas à ce point là...
Pour ma part, c'est ce que j'ai toujours fait, sans aucun souci. Y compris dans les cas où je suis enregistrée ensuite à une autre adresse...
Merci,
voulez-vous dire que vous avez indiqué sur la carte de migration une adresse qui ne correspondant pas à l'endroit où vous vous êtes fait enregistrer? De plus je crois qu'il y a 2 cartes à remplir, dont une à garder. Que fait-on de la 2ème?
voulez-vous dire que vous avez indiqué sur la carte de migration une adresse qui ne correspondant pas à l'endroit où vous vous êtes fait enregistrer? De plus je crois qu'il y a 2 cartes à remplir, dont une à garder. Que fait-on de la 2ème?
Sur la carte de migration, on vous demande d'indiquer le nom et l'adresse de la personne qui vous invite. Vous avez donc tout intérêt à indiquer celles de l'agence qui a fait votre invitation.
L'enregistrement, lui, n'a rien à voir, puisqu'il est censé indiqué où vous dormez et non pas qui vous a invités.
Il y a en effet deux volets à remplir sur la carte de migration. L'un est gardé au contrôle des passeports, le deuxième vous est rendu. Vous devez le garder impérativement sur vous pendant toute la durée du voyage. En cas de contrôle, on vous contrôlera aussi là-dessus. Lorsque vous quitterez la Russie, on vous le reprendra au contrôle des passeports.
Il y a en effet deux volets à remplir sur la carte de migration. L'un est gardé au contrôle des passeports, le deuxième vous est rendu. Vous devez le garder impérativement sur vous pendant toute la durée du voyage. En cas de contrôle, on vous contrôlera aussi là-dessus. Lorsque vous quitterez la Russie, on vous le reprendra au contrôle des passeports.
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From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.






