Thaïlande, Inde et réciproquement
by Geob
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Avec les voyageurs que je rencontre en Inde, qu'ils arrivent de Thailande ou qu'ils s't rendent, nous ne pouvons nous empecher de faires des remarques a propos de ces deux pays.
Par exemple sur les transports par la route. Le reseau Thai est tellement dense, qu'il est rarement necessaire de se renseigner sur les horaires, il suffit d'arriver a la gare routiere ou il y aura toujours quelqu'un qui vous demandera votre ville et, selon si votre bus s'apprete a partir ou si vous avez encore le temps, il vous prendra derechef votre bagage pour le mettre dans le coffre, ou il vous indiquera le guichet de votre destination.
En Inde, il vaut mieux s'assurer qu'il y a bien un bus !
La rue en Inde est beaucoup plus coloree, odorifante - ah ca !-, et beaucoup de gens se baladent encore dans leur tenue traditionnelle, ce qui met de l'attrait dans vos cadrages. Voir ces vaches se balader dans les rues et ruelles, a la recherche d'un depotoir, ca laisse dubatatif le voyageur qui arrive la 1 ere fois en Inde.
Quant aux monuments et sites archeologiques, qui parlent d'un pays qui n'existe plus, c'est sans conteste l'INde qui remporte la palme.
En ce qui concerne les plages, je vote pour la Thailande ( tant qu'il y aura la guerre dans la region de Tricomalee -Sri-Lanka-). Ce n'est pas pour rien que 90 100 des visiteurs de la Thailande se precipitent a Phuket, dans les iles -oui, oui, continuez !- et tres peu s'arretent a Ban Sapang -oui, oui, ne vous arretez pas!
Pour la nourriture, ceux qui bougent, voyagent sans assistanat d'une agence touristique, qui ne descendent pas dans les "resorts", etre en thailande s'avere un plaisir. Il suffit de trouver le marche de nuit de la ville ou vous etes, choisir votre stand, les produits que vous desirez manger, et on cuisinera cela devant vous, rapidement : meme le plat le plus simple sera succulent !
Dans les rapports que nous sommes amenes a avoir, au quotidien, les societes impregnees par le bouddhisme sont d'un commerce plus reposant qu'en Inde. Et parler avec des moines bouddhistes, quelquefois, nous apportent une serenite, une quietude, une joie calme -un sentiment, pas une emotion-, tant certains semblent illumines par ce qu'ils professent. Par contre, les pretres des cultes indiens, ventripotents, vulgaires, apres aux gains, nous avons plutot envie de leur administrer des coups de batons !
Bon, a chacun sa voie !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Nous sommes arrivés à Bangkok depuis Mumbai. On a trouvé la ville calme et "bien rangée", par rapport au bordel ambiant qui règne sur le sous continent indien.
Concernant les transports, je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi. On a trouvé plus facile de voyager en Inde par ses propres moyens qu'en thailande. Le réseaux férroviaire est tellement développé, sinon il y a toujours un bus qui va là ou l'on veut aller. En thailande on a eu l'impression d'être dans un tour organisé à l'échelle du pays. Les gares routières sont diverses et rattachées aux compagnies privées. On s'est fait avoir plus d'une fois en thailande en prenant un bus, puis un autre pour finir le voyage dans un van. J'ai eu l'impression d'être beaucoup plus autonome dans mes choix de transport en Inde qu'en thailande. Peut être s'est on mal débrouillé en Thailande. Pour la nourriture, dans les deux pays, c'est un plaisir de se restaurer. La nourriture Thai est vraiment délicieuse, quant à la nourriture indienne, elle est variée et change d'une région sur l'autre.
Pour le commerce, j'ai bien aimé la méthode indienne, avec des discussions longues mais qui finissent par un accord réciproque "you happy" "me happy". En thailande, le sourire constant et la faible utilisation de l'anglais en apparence m'a un peu refroidi.
En fait on a plus discuté avec les indiens qu'avec les thailandais, il faut dire qu'on est resté en thailande 1 mois et qu'on a été d'iles en iles. Autant l'inde a été pour nous le pays des "hommes", autant la thailande nous a réconcilié avec la nature. On recherchait plûtot les endroits "déserts" avec des plages sans grand monde (qu'on a trouvé à Ko tarutao) ou la jungle et le chant des gibbons (qu'on a trouvé à Ko sok).
Concernant les transports, je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi. On a trouvé plus facile de voyager en Inde par ses propres moyens qu'en thailande. Le réseaux férroviaire est tellement développé, sinon il y a toujours un bus qui va là ou l'on veut aller. En thailande on a eu l'impression d'être dans un tour organisé à l'échelle du pays. Les gares routières sont diverses et rattachées aux compagnies privées. On s'est fait avoir plus d'une fois en thailande en prenant un bus, puis un autre pour finir le voyage dans un van. J'ai eu l'impression d'être beaucoup plus autonome dans mes choix de transport en Inde qu'en thailande. Peut être s'est on mal débrouillé en Thailande. Pour la nourriture, dans les deux pays, c'est un plaisir de se restaurer. La nourriture Thai est vraiment délicieuse, quant à la nourriture indienne, elle est variée et change d'une région sur l'autre.
Pour le commerce, j'ai bien aimé la méthode indienne, avec des discussions longues mais qui finissent par un accord réciproque "you happy" "me happy". En thailande, le sourire constant et la faible utilisation de l'anglais en apparence m'a un peu refroidi.
En fait on a plus discuté avec les indiens qu'avec les thailandais, il faut dire qu'on est resté en thailande 1 mois et qu'on a été d'iles en iles. Autant l'inde a été pour nous le pays des "hommes", autant la thailande nous a réconcilié avec la nature. On recherchait plûtot les endroits "déserts" avec des plages sans grand monde (qu'on a trouvé à Ko tarutao) ou la jungle et le chant des gibbons (qu'on a trouvé à Ko sok).
Je suis assez d accord avec toi. On est arrives il y a deux semaines a Bangalore depuis la Thailande, et, concernant les transports en tout cas, on se sent beaucoup plus autonomes ici. Bien sur, il faut de la patience, certes, il faut la sante, of course, il faut un esprit d adaptation certain aux horaires, aux destinations, aux humeurs du controleur et a l etat de la route... Mais 1- On est pas presses! 2- on a pas d itineraire et surtout
3- WELCOME TO INDIA MY FRIEND!!😄
Pour l instant, j avoue qu on se marre assez a changer de plans aux gres des bus ou des trains. Parce qu en Thailande, effectivement, confort et bus VIP avec les dernieres sortie des blockbusters US.... Et vague impression de Club Med national pour Farangs..🤪.. Attention, je ne parle que des transports la hein! Mais aussi un peu des sourires plus ou moins francs envers la mane touristique... Je ne generalise pas! Nous avons rencontre des gens formidables! Et puis tout depend de l endroit. L inde a son lot (Et comment!) de "where are you from my friend?" "Come come! comment ca va! Special price for you!" Mais c est plus normal si on va a Cochin ou a Madurai... Il suffit de s eloigner un peu et ouf! Les gens redevienent normaux, et vous regardent passer, simplement. Au pire ils vous sourient.... On s y fait😉
Je crois que je suis en train d attrapper le virus!! 😊
Et pour eviter d attraper autre chose, je cours m enduire de produit anti moustique, je suis en train de me faire manger toute crue!!😠
Et pour eviter d attraper autre chose, je cours m enduire de produit anti moustique, je suis en train de me faire manger toute crue!!😠
Je ne m'attendais pas a cette remarque : on a trouve plus facile de voyager en Inde par ses propres moyens qu'en Thailande.
J'avoue que cela me laisse perplexe ! Mais j'ai du rater quelque chose !
Et je constate aussi que vous faites partie de ces 90100 des visiteurs qui se precipitent au bord des plages, dans les iles, et que cela vous a reconcilie avec la nature.
Connaissez vous le Kerala ?
Effectivement, pour le reseau ferre, l'Inde est bien pouvue. Merci les anglais !
Quant au sourire thai... qu'est-ce qu'on prefere ? Se faire la gueule, s'invectiver ?
Le cliche " le thai sourit, mais c'est hypocrite" me lasse. Sincerite ou non, cela n'a rien a voir. Le sourire thai est comme un habit : il faut toujours donner une bonne image de soi, par politesse, vis vis de vos interlocuteurs.
J'oublais : comment se faire avoir dans une gare routiere, en Thailande ?
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
J'habite dans le quartier des pecheurs a Mamallapuram, depui le 2111. Je salue regulierement la personne la plus agee dans la famille qui habite en face de ma location. Aujourd'hui, le vieux, toujours en souriant, me fait le geste du gars qui veut manger, puis, le mouvement des doigts pour l'argent.
Eh ben, il aura mis du temps a tenter sa chance, celui la !
Comme dans tous les pays, les endroits les plus passionnants sont ceux ou il n'ya rien a voir ! Idem pour Mamallapuram, allez dans la campagne. Je me suis arreter dans un village ou on a ete oblige de trouver quelqu'un pour me dire combien je devais, parce que, beaucoup d'entre eux ne parlaient pas Anglais
Revez votre vie, c'est le drame de la plupart des gens : c'est tellement difficile de rester dans le present, en pleine conscience de ce qu'on fait !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Bonjour,
Je ne suis pas retourné en thailande depuis 15 ans. En revanche, je confirme qu'il est facile de voyager par ses propres moyens en Inde en raison d'un réseau performant de transports (bus et trains). Et à ce titre, j'ai rarement raté une correspondance. Peut-être aussi parce que lorsque je voyage, j'ai l'habitude de prendre mon temps et de prévoir large. Certes, avec les bus surtout locaux, on peut se faire quelques frayeurs en raison de l'état de vetusté du matériel et de l'humeur des chauffeurs. Mais ça fait aussi partie des plaisirs de voyager en Inde.
Je ne suis pas retourné en thailande depuis 15 ans. En revanche, je confirme qu'il est facile de voyager par ses propres moyens en Inde en raison d'un réseau performant de transports (bus et trains). Et à ce titre, j'ai rarement raté une correspondance. Peut-être aussi parce que lorsque je voyage, j'ai l'habitude de prendre mon temps et de prévoir large. Certes, avec les bus surtout locaux, on peut se faire quelques frayeurs en raison de l'état de vetusté du matériel et de l'humeur des chauffeurs. Mais ça fait aussi partie des plaisirs de voyager en Inde.
Douz
. On s'est fait avoir plus d'une fois en thailande en prenant un bus, puis un autre pour finir le voyage dans un van. J'ai eu l'impression d'être beaucoup plus autonome dans mes choix de transport en Inde qu'en thailande. Peut être s'est on mal débrouillé en Thailande.
délicieuse, quant à la nourriture indienne, elle est variée et change d'une région sur l'autre.
En thailande, le sourire constant et la faible utilisation de l'anglais en apparence m'a un peu refroidi.
En fait on a plus discuté avec les indiens qu'avec les thailandais, il faut dire qu'on est resté en thailande 1 mois et qu'on a été d'iles en iles. Autant l'inde a été pour nous le pays des "hommes", autant la thailande nous a réconcilié avec la nature. On recherchait plûtot les endroits "déserts" avec des plages sans grand monde (qu'on a trouvé à Ko tarutao) ou la jungle et le chant des gibbons (qu'on a trouvé à Ko sok).
pour les bus c'est sur que tu t'est mal debrouiller, comme tu parle de correspondances "van" effertivement tu n'a pas pris les bus d'etat, aussi confortable et peu onereux, a part cà tu est rester 1 mois et tu n'a fait que les iles !!! alors comment peu tu te permettre de juger l'ensemble d'un peuple ?, assez pretentieux tout cà, ha, au fait : Thailande veut dire : pays des "hommes" libres personnelement je trouve qu'a part le chant des gibbons t'a rien compris a ce pays
En thailande, le sourire constant et la faible utilisation de l'anglais en apparence m'a un peu refroidi.
En fait on a plus discuté avec les indiens qu'avec les thailandais, il faut dire qu'on est resté en thailande 1 mois et qu'on a été d'iles en iles. Autant l'inde a été pour nous le pays des "hommes", autant la thailande nous a réconcilié avec la nature. On recherchait plûtot les endroits "déserts" avec des plages sans grand monde (qu'on a trouvé à Ko tarutao) ou la jungle et le chant des gibbons (qu'on a trouvé à Ko sok).
pour les bus c'est sur que tu t'est mal debrouiller, comme tu parle de correspondances "van" effertivement tu n'a pas pris les bus d'etat, aussi confortable et peu onereux, a part cà tu est rester 1 mois et tu n'a fait que les iles !!! alors comment peu tu te permettre de juger l'ensemble d'un peuple ?, assez pretentieux tout cà, ha, au fait : Thailande veut dire : pays des "hommes" libres personnelement je trouve qu'a part le chant des gibbons t'a rien compris a ce pays
On a tous une vision et surtout une interpretation tres personnelle des evenements qu, on vit .Notre propre personnalite et notre education sont des paramettres tres influents sur chacun de nous et du regard des autres qui en fait est parfois un regard sur soi meme ...la compation est la contre nature propre de l, homme, donc est -il bon d, en avoir car rouler a contre sens est toujours dangereux ! se mettre a philosopher est-ce la bonne solution .l, , etre humain dans son comportement n, est -il pas depasser par lui meme 😏 ??????
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Je viens de lire un bouquin excellent au sujet de la mentalité des indiens (leur rapport à l'argent, à la religion, à la politique, ce qui fait leur force et aussi leur faiblesse) qui est très éclairant pour un occidental qui fait plus que découvrir ce pays (à plusieurs reprises, l'auteur insiste sur l'apparence et la réalité). Il s'agit du "Défi indien" publié par Actes Sud, écrit par un diplomate indien (donc quelqu'un qui connaît évidemment l'Inde de l'intérieur mais qui a du recul étant donné ses longs séjours en occident).
La lecture de ce bouquin est notamment fort éclairante pour expliquer pourquoi tant de richesse côtoie tant de pauvreté sans que cela ne provoque de mouvements sociaux voire de révolutions (alors que dans les sociétés chrétiennes ou musulmanes, les notions du bien et du mal obligent les riches à ne pas faire preuve d'autant d'ostentation et de pratiquer la charité pour se donner bonne conscience).
La lecture de ce bouquin est notamment fort éclairante pour expliquer pourquoi tant de richesse côtoie tant de pauvreté sans que cela ne provoque de mouvements sociaux voire de révolutions (alors que dans les sociétés chrétiennes ou musulmanes, les notions du bien et du mal obligent les riches à ne pas faire preuve d'autant d'ostentation et de pratiquer la charité pour se donner bonne conscience).
Pour ceux qui seraient en Inde et ne pourraient le trouver qu'en anglais:
BEING INDIAN, chez Penguin Books http://www.amazon.co.uk/Being-Indian-Inside-Real-India/dp/0434013919
En français: http://www.amazon.fr/D%C3%A9fi-indien-Pourquoi-si%C3%A8cle-lInde/dp/2742758682
Extrait du livre, pour se mettre l'eau à la bouche: http://www.actes-sud.fr/extrait.php?gencod=9782742758685
Un bouquin formidable dont j'ai déjà parlé maintes fois sur le forum. 😎
Ceux qui ont aimé aimeront aussi BOMBAY MAXMUM CITY, de Sukheta Mehta http://www.amazon.fr/Bombay-Maximum-City-Suketu-Mehta/dp/2283021669
BEING INDIAN, chez Penguin Books http://www.amazon.co.uk/Being-Indian-Inside-Real-India/dp/0434013919
En français: http://www.amazon.fr/D%C3%A9fi-indien-Pourquoi-si%C3%A8cle-lInde/dp/2742758682
Extrait du livre, pour se mettre l'eau à la bouche: http://www.actes-sud.fr/extrait.php?gencod=9782742758685
Un bouquin formidable dont j'ai déjà parlé maintes fois sur le forum. 😎
Ceux qui ont aimé aimeront aussi BOMBAY MAXMUM CITY, de Sukheta Mehta http://www.amazon.fr/Bombay-Maximum-City-Suketu-Mehta/dp/2283021669
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Je proposerai un livre, que je viens de relire, et qui me laisse toujours pantois d'admiration, je veux parler de " L'Inde des grands chemins", de Jack Thieuloy, que l'on trouve chez , mais par internet puisqu'il est epuise !
Premierement, il y a le style, Thieuloy est un grand styliste, et quand on aime la litterature, c'est sans doute le point le plus important.
Et puis, il y a le flamboiement de sa description des "petits peuples de L'Inde", ceux de la rue, de la campagne, leur psychologie, et comment il arrive a nous interesser aux monuments de l"Inde, vraiment saisissant !
Ce livre a paru il y a 30 ans, Thieuloy n'aurait pas grand chose a changer aujourd'hui !
Mais aussi, ce livre risque de choquer les belles ames par son contenu sulfureux ! Avez vous lu les lettres que Flaubert envoyait d"Egypte, a son ami Louis Bouillet ? Si Thieuloy vous choque, brulez vite le tome 1 de la correspondance de Flaubert... meme si c'est edite par "La Pleiade" et qu'il vous a coute tres cher !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Au bout d'un certain temps, on se dit il manque quelque chose a Bangkok... mais oui, c'est hallucinant, personne ne klaxonne !
En Inde, meme dans une petite ville comme Mamallapuram, c'est une culture ! Une des premieres chose que m'a montree mon loueur de mobylette, ce fut le klaxon !
Hier, dans une ruelle de Mamallapuram, un aveugle, avec sa canne, avancait lentement et, derriere lui, une petite voiture aux vitres teintees s'impatientait et le chauffeur n'arretait pas de klaxonner ! Pas de pitie !
En Thailande, aucun chauffeur ne se permettrait ce genre d'action, il perdrait la face en perdant son sang froid !
En Inde, il est rare qu'un voyageur echappe a la "turista". En Thailande, il est rare qu'un voyageur attrape la "turista". Mais la Thailande a un medicament extraordinairement efficace pour tous ces problemes ; je l'ai teste au Laos, et... en Inde. Sa particularite, c'est la presence de "light kaolin", de l'argile, qui sert de pansement pour l'estomac, ce qui permet de tres bien supporte l'antibiotique contenu dans le comprime. Le nom : Disento, ou alors Coccila, rigoureusement la meme composition, presenter en tabette de 4 comprimes... sans doute 12 baths actuellement ! Ca evite de s'encombrer avec tous les medicaments que prescrivent nos docteurs, et ca tient pas de place !
En Inde, il est rare qu'un voyageur echappe a la "turista". En Thailande, il est rare qu'un voyageur attrape la "turista". Mais la Thailande a un medicament extraordinairement efficace pour tous ces problemes ; je l'ai teste au Laos, et... en Inde. Sa particularite, c'est la presence de "light kaolin", de l'argile, qui sert de pansement pour l'estomac, ce qui permet de tres bien supporte l'antibiotique contenu dans le comprime. Le nom : Disento, ou alors Coccila, rigoureusement la meme composition, presenter en tabette de 4 comprimes... sans doute 12 baths actuellement ! Ca evite de s'encombrer avec tous les medicaments que prescrivent nos docteurs, et ca tient pas de place !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Oulàlà, comme tu y vas.
Tu sembles prendre la moindre critique envers la thailande comme une critique à ton encontre.
Si j'ai précisé que nous étions resté surtout sur les iles, c'est justement pour relativiser mes dires et les éclairer à la lumière de mon expérience qui est, je pensais l'avoir clairement exprimé, limitée et non exhaustive.
Ce que j'ai dit relève du constat que j'ai fait et non de vérité que je tiens pour acquises. Concernant le jugement sur l'ensemble d'un peuple, il est évident que dans ce genre de sujet on est amené à parler au général sur des impressions qui nous sont propres. Sinon, oui, j'ai rencontré des thailandais très sympas avec qui j'ai eu de très bons contacts. Oui, j'ai bien aimé la thailande et ses habitants.
Pour finir, la personne qui me dit que "je n'ai rien compris à ce pays" quelques soit le pays dont il parle, pense que lui a TOUT compris au pays. Et tant que son interlocuteur n'ira pas dans son sens, il aura tord.
Au fait, quel rapport entre la signification du mot thailande et le reste ???? C'est peut être en rapport avec le pays "des hommes" dont j'ai parlé...Il y a "hommes" dedans aussi...D'ailleurs dire qu'un pays qui a une densité de 330 habitants/m2 est le pays des hommes comparé à un pays avec une densité de 120 habitants me semble logique. On a été rarement seuls en Inde comparé à la Thailande (oups...aux endroits spécifiques et restreints de thailande, "pays des hommes libres" que j'ai foulé de mes pieds nus).
a part cà tu est rester 1 mois et tu n'a fait que les iles !!! En fait, principalement les iles oui, on est resté 1 semaine à Bkk, 1 Semaine à Koh Tao (on aurait bien bougé mais on était avec un pote qui devait reprendre l'avion à la fin de la semaine), et puis ensuite, Koh Sok (4-5jours), Krabi city (5-6 jours) et l'archipel de Tarutao (le reste) entre Koh tarutao et Koh lipe.
Pour finir, la personne qui me dit que "je n'ai rien compris à ce pays" quelques soit le pays dont il parle, pense que lui a TOUT compris au pays. Et tant que son interlocuteur n'ira pas dans son sens, il aura tord.
Au fait, quel rapport entre la signification du mot thailande et le reste ???? C'est peut être en rapport avec le pays "des hommes" dont j'ai parlé...Il y a "hommes" dedans aussi...D'ailleurs dire qu'un pays qui a une densité de 330 habitants/m2 est le pays des hommes comparé à un pays avec une densité de 120 habitants me semble logique. On a été rarement seuls en Inde comparé à la Thailande (oups...aux endroits spécifiques et restreints de thailande, "pays des hommes libres" que j'ai foulé de mes pieds nus).
a part cà tu est rester 1 mois et tu n'a fait que les iles !!! En fait, principalement les iles oui, on est resté 1 semaine à Bkk, 1 Semaine à Koh Tao (on aurait bien bougé mais on était avec un pote qui devait reprendre l'avion à la fin de la semaine), et puis ensuite, Koh Sok (4-5jours), Krabi city (5-6 jours) et l'archipel de Tarutao (le reste) entre Koh tarutao et Koh lipe.
il ya des exicites partout meme parmi les amoureux de l'asie
Pour te donner une idee plus proche de la realite, quant a " l'exite amoureux de l'asie", feuillette son "livre d'or de l'issan" sur le forum asie du sud est !!!
Pour te donner une idee plus proche de la realite, quant a " l'exite amoureux de l'asie", feuillette son "livre d'or de l'issan" sur le forum asie du sud est !!!
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Tiens, c' est marrant, mais je ne m' en etais meme pas rendu compte, l' absence du klaxon! Ca indique bien une attitude des gens completement differente (plus sereine? plus mure?). Perso, je trouve Bkk assez reposant, allez comparer avec une ville comme Varanasi par exemple! Et c' est vrai, grosse difference aussi du cote risques gastriques, en Thailande je ne pense presque pas a faire attention. Alors qu' en Inde! bon, je mange un peu partout et je suis peut-etre relativement blinde, mais comme dit plus haut, la tourista frappe c' est sur!
Merci aussi pour le nom du medicament, on ne sait jamais ca peut servir un jour 🙂.
Qui a parle des pretres? Je suis un peu d' accord avec la fatigue exprimee plus haut rapport pretres indiens. Personnellement, j' aime beaucoup l' Inde mais je ne vois pas beaucoup de spiritualite dans les temples hindous.... et j' en ai eu serieusement ras-le-bol d' avoir a lacher quelques roupies systematiquement dans tous les temples hindous. 🤪 L' atmosphere des wats me convient plus.
Merci aussi pour le nom du medicament, on ne sait jamais ca peut servir un jour 🙂.
Qui a parle des pretres? Je suis un peu d' accord avec la fatigue exprimee plus haut rapport pretres indiens. Personnellement, j' aime beaucoup l' Inde mais je ne vois pas beaucoup de spiritualite dans les temples hindous.... et j' en ai eu serieusement ras-le-bol d' avoir a lacher quelques roupies systematiquement dans tous les temples hindous. 🤪 L' atmosphere des wats me convient plus.
"Ca indique bien une attitude des gens completement differente (plus sereine? plus mure?)."
Oui c'est juste différent pas "plus mieux" ou "moins mieux" c'est juste différent.
C'est quand même moins bruyant sans les klaxons...😎
Oui c'est juste différent pas "plus mieux" ou "moins mieux" c'est juste différent.
C'est quand même moins bruyant sans les klaxons...😎
On a tous en nous quelque chose de Tenesse : Johnny Haliday
A mon retour sur Paris, j'ai crû que j'avais un problème aux yeux car, bizarrement, je ne voyais plus les couleurs ; étais-je devenu daltonien ? Vivre 4 moins dans un monde en couleurs, et se retrouver dans un monde monochromatique, à dominance grise, cela fait un choc !
Il faut reconnaitre çà à l'Inde : c'est un monde en couleurs !
Moi aussi, je trouve plus de spirituallité dans les wats.
Dans les boutiques, les échoppes ouvertes sur la rue, il y a souvent un récipient rempli d'eau potable, avec un gobelet en plastique qui permet aûx passants d'étancher leur soif. Je me souviens d'avoir vu les mêmes scènes en Thaïlande !
En dehors des éléments à caractères touristiques, je préfère la Thaïlande, les populations bouddhistes en général, pour leur façon d'appréhender la vie, pour la lenteur et la beauté de leurs gestes.
En Inde, on a toujours l'impression que les indiens ont un train à prendre !
En Thaïlande, au Laos, on prend son temps pour manger sa soupe !
Bien entendu, loin de moi l'idée de comparer ces deux payx, et même l'idée de toutes comparaisons en toutes choses, je cherchais simplement des similitudes, un fond commun inhérent à l'asie, à constater les différences.
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Il est impossible de comparer ou de classer A avant B, il y a tellement de facteurs a prendre en ligne de compte et des gouts et des couleurs, comme on dit, il y en a! En fait la question est de savoir ou on se sent le mieux, et je crois que nous sommes assez sur la meme longueur d' onde 😉, c' est en Thailande. Ban Sapang....faudra que tu m' expliques ...
En Inde, on a toujours l'impression que les indiens ont un train à prendre !
A bon! Pas du tout mon impression de mon cote :)
La Thailande j'y suis pas alle: j'ai plein de prejuges sur la prostitution comme un systeme d'ampleur national qui m'ont eloigne de tout ce qui pourrait y avoir d'attachant. J'ai surement trop lu de rapports d'ONG a ce sujet.
A bon! Pas du tout mon impression de mon cote :)
La Thailande j'y suis pas alle: j'ai plein de prejuges sur la prostitution comme un systeme d'ampleur national qui m'ont eloigne de tout ce qui pourrait y avoir d'attachant. J'ai surement trop lu de rapports d'ONG a ce sujet.
En Inde, on a toujours l'impression que les indiens ont un train à prendre !
A bon! Pas du tout mon impression de mon cote :)
La Thailande j'y suis pas alle: j'ai plein de prejuges sur la prostitution comme un systeme d'ampleur national qui m'ont eloigne de tout ce qui pourrait y avoir d'attachant. J'ai surement trop lu de rapports d'ONG a ce sujet.
C'est dommage de juger un pays sans se faire sa propre expérience. Certains pays (en Europe de l'ouest par exemple) ont des systèmes de prostitution légaux, cela doit-il en détourner le voyageur? Si ma mémoire est bonne, il y a 2 fois plus d'enfants prostitués en Inde qu'en Thaïlande, sans tenir compte de la différence en nombre d'habitants.
A bon! Pas du tout mon impression de mon cote :)
La Thailande j'y suis pas alle: j'ai plein de prejuges sur la prostitution comme un systeme d'ampleur national qui m'ont eloigne de tout ce qui pourrait y avoir d'attachant. J'ai surement trop lu de rapports d'ONG a ce sujet.
C'est dommage de juger un pays sans se faire sa propre expérience. Certains pays (en Europe de l'ouest par exemple) ont des systèmes de prostitution légaux, cela doit-il en détourner le voyageur? Si ma mémoire est bonne, il y a 2 fois plus d'enfants prostitués en Inde qu'en Thaïlande, sans tenir compte de la différence en nombre d'habitants.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Mes prejuges je les tire de rapports d'ONG en premier lieu (Notament sur celles qui temoignent et luttent contre la sequestration et les enlevements des birmanes).
C'est pas parce que il y a de la prostitution legale (ou non) en Europe de l'Ouest que cela justifie celle en Thailande qui me semble d'une toute autre ampleur!
Quand aux chiffres on leur fait dire ce que l'on veut, donc tes sources seraient bienvenues au sujet de l'Inde.
En tout cas l'Inde n'a pas a mes yeux cette image d'une maison de passe premiere au top planetaire comme la Thailande. Mais j'ai surement trop vu de docus a la tele, trop croise d'offres sur le net, et finalement mis le nez dans trop de rapports comme ceux dont je parlais en premier lieu.
J'ai bien du mal a croire que c est partout pareil et meme pire ailleurs! Tu peux apprecier ce pays pour de multiples autres raisons et te detourner de ce probleme majeur pour moi en tout cas, Ta demonstration est loin de celle qui va me faire changer d'avis
J'ai bien du mal a croire que c est partout pareil et meme pire ailleurs! Tu peux apprecier ce pays pour de multiples autres raisons et te detourner de ce probleme majeur pour moi en tout cas, Ta demonstration est loin de celle qui va me faire changer d'avis
Si vous voulez débattre sur un sujet qui, me semble-t-il, vous tient particulièrement à coeur, pourquoi ne le faites vous pas dans "asie du sud-est"? En général, ce sujet attire beaucoup de monde, et vous ne serez ni le premier ni le dernier à le faire !
Résumer l'Inde et la Thaïlande à la prostitution, c'est comme résumer la France à sa consommation d'alcool par habitant !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
ou à son équipe de football ...
J'ai pas l'impression d etre hors-sujet et si on t'ennuie tu peux passer direct au paragraphe suivant au lieu de me recommander d'aller ecrire ailleurs.
Les fous du foot et les alcolos sont une realite qui me derange moins que l esclavage, y a pas photo.
Maintenant que c'est dit je vous laisse la parole sur la gentillesse des thais, la haute gastronomie et le sable fin. Bonnes vacances!
Les fous du foot et les alcolos sont une realite qui me derange moins que l esclavage, y a pas photo.
Maintenant que c'est dit je vous laisse la parole sur la gentillesse des thais, la haute gastronomie et le sable fin. Bonnes vacances!
Je trouve simplement dommage de réduire ainsi un pays et de ne pas profiter de ses vraies richesses.
Je crains d'ailleurs que si vous souhaitez visiter des pays exempts de prostitution et de pédophilie, vous ne soyez réduit à rester chez vous.
Vous avez une vaste littérature sur le net, organismes de l'ONU, OIT, Sisyphe, Ong en effet, etc...Pour ma part je n'ai rien à démontrer à ce sujet.
A noter que depuis quelques années, une lutte certaine (et sans doute très insuffisante, mais on sait à quelles mafias on s'attaque) contre les touristes pédophiles a été mise en place en Thaïlande, et que ces adultes aux graves pathologies choisissent d'autres "terrains de chasse" pour leur sinistre libido.
A noter que depuis quelques années, une lutte certaine (et sans doute très insuffisante, mais on sait à quelles mafias on s'attaque) contre les touristes pédophiles a été mise en place en Thaïlande, et que ces adultes aux graves pathologies choisissent d'autres "terrains de chasse" pour leur sinistre libido.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Chengdu,
N'essaie meme pas de discuter avec eux sur ce sujet. Comme beaucoup d'hommes (malheureusement), la prostitution ne les derange absolument pas... et ils en feraient presque l'apologie sous pretexte de la liberation sexuelle ou de la relation entre adultes consentants... Je suis contente de constater qu'il y a au moins un homme que cela derange... et qui a le courage de ses convictions. Bon weekend
N'essaie meme pas de discuter avec eux sur ce sujet. Comme beaucoup d'hommes (malheureusement), la prostitution ne les derange absolument pas... et ils en feraient presque l'apologie sous pretexte de la liberation sexuelle ou de la relation entre adultes consentants... Je suis contente de constater qu'il y a au moins un homme que cela derange... et qui a le courage de ses convictions. Bon weekend
Chengdu,
N'essaie meme pas de discuter avec eux sur ce sujet. Comme beaucoup d'hommes (malheureusement), la prostitution ne les derange absolument pas... et ils en feraient presque l'apologie sous pretexte de la liberation sexuelle ou de la relation entre adultes consentants... Je suis contente de constater qu'il y a au moins un homme que cela derange... et qui a le courage de ses convictions. Bon weekend
Comme beaucoup d'hommes (heureusement), la prostitution me dérange absolument, que ce soit en Inde, en Thaïlande ou ailleurs. Le tourisme sexuel est planétaire et les femmes consomment aussi.
Enfin, pour ceux qui penseraient que l'Inde est épargnée par ce que je considère comme un fléau, une simple recherche en français sur le net leur fournira des heures de lecture édifiante.
N'essaie meme pas de discuter avec eux sur ce sujet. Comme beaucoup d'hommes (malheureusement), la prostitution ne les derange absolument pas... et ils en feraient presque l'apologie sous pretexte de la liberation sexuelle ou de la relation entre adultes consentants... Je suis contente de constater qu'il y a au moins un homme que cela derange... et qui a le courage de ses convictions. Bon weekend
Comme beaucoup d'hommes (heureusement), la prostitution me dérange absolument, que ce soit en Inde, en Thaïlande ou ailleurs. Le tourisme sexuel est planétaire et les femmes consomment aussi.
Enfin, pour ceux qui penseraient que l'Inde est épargnée par ce que je considère comme un fléau, une simple recherche en français sur le net leur fournira des heures de lecture édifiante.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Je sais pas pourquoi tu insistes a dire qu'il y a plus de prostitution en Indes qu'en Thailande.
J'ai fait de longs sejours en Indes, et j'ai point vu ce que j'ai pu voir comme docus sur la Thailande. En Thailande j'ai l'impression que la prostitution s'affiche, que c'est normal, integre. Lis les rapports des ONG sur les kidnappage et l'asservissement.
Je ne sais pas si statistiquement il y a plus de prostitution en Indes qu'en Thailande. Ce que je sais de ma propre experience c'est que j'ai pas eu peur en m'y promenant de voir ma copine se faire enlever au coin de la rue., ni de voir les celebrissimes bars et etalages a la thai sur la voie publique. L'indien est au moins pudique a ce sujet.
Sinon je ne me limite pas au sujet de la pedophilie, c'est bien plus vaste que cela. Trop facile de ne s'interesser qu'aux extreme. Le policier thai qui ramene la birmane au bercail quand elle essaie de s'enfuir pour se la faire ensuite ca me choque tout autant.
Maintenant je reponds sans vouloir insister et je ne vois aucun probleme a ce que la discussion retourne sur les comparaisons culinaires et sur les moyens de transports.
J'indique simplement que d'un côté l'Inde n'est pas épargnée par la prostitution ( googler simplement "prostitution en Inde" fournit suffisamment d'infos à celui qui veut ouvrir les yeux) et que d'un autre, la Thaïlande ne se limite pas à son industrie du sexe.
Vous ne souhaitez pas connaître ce pays, c'est bien dommage pour vous, et vous pouvez en effet en rester à vos préjugés.
Ils semblent d'ailleurs aussi forts sur le premier pays que sur le second.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Mes prejuges me semble plus proche de la realite.
Et vous avez le don de vouloir renvoyer autrui sur ce qu'il n'a pas dit (pedophilie, pas de prostitution en Indes, les femmes utilisatrices) afin de rester dans votre propre point de vue.
Bien sur qu'il y a de la prostitution en Indes et alors? Ou voulez vous en venir, pourquoi voulez vous sauver la face d'un pays reconnu (surement helas mille fois helas!) comme le lieu des "plaisirs" pour le tourisme international? L'Indes n'a pas cette image, demandez donc a votre voisin!
Le problème est que de ton coté, tu ne vois la Thaïlande que comme un pays de perdition et de luxure, ce qu'il est loin d'être en réalité. Tu réduis un pays où tu n'es jamais allé à tes préjugés et tu t'entêtes dans cette position.
De l'autre côté, Khunfred en fait autant avec l'Inde où il n'est semble-t-il jamais allé non plus.
Le débat est donc stérile et sans grand intérêt.
Oui des le depart c est ce que j ai dit. Tout a fait. Enfin je sais bien que ce n'est pas que cela la Thailande mais cette image me colle a la peau et prend toute la place. Je pense pas qu'ils soit si deplacer d'en parler dans cette comparaison, car je pense que je ne suis pas le seul a eprouver ce sentiment.
Par ailleurs si je reponds a chaque fois c'est pour les rajouts en douce, il deforme les propos des uns et des autres et je n'arrive pas a me dire laisse tomber, pourquoi signaler que ce n'est pas ce que j'ai dit, etc...
Donc j espere pouvoir lire a nouveau comme je l'ai deja dit plusieurs fois d'autres considerations sur ce qui differencie ou reunit ces 2 pays.
Donc j espere pouvoir lire a nouveau comme je l'ai deja dit plusieurs fois d'autres considerations sur ce qui differencie ou reunit ces 2 pays.
On estime à 1,2 million de personnes les prostituées en Inde.
Originaires des basses castes de la société, ou du Népal, elles commencent à 14 ans, et "rapportent" environ 3 ans. En effet, la clientèle est majoritairement indienne et réclame des vierges.
Ensuite, elles sont rejetées, en campagne ou en bidonvilles.
Pour les garçons, ça commence un peu plus jeune, vers 9 ans.
Au passage: plus de 2 millions de porteurs du vih dans le pays, essentiellement des prostitué(e)s, des clients ou des personnes infectées par ces derniers.
C'est donc un problème massif, d'importance nationale, sur lequel la cour suprême s'est d'ailleurs penchée pour savoir si sanitairement il ne serait pas plus judicieux de légaliser.
Vous indiquez que vous avez voyagé dans ce pays sans en avoir été affecté. De mon côté, je vous indique donc simplement que vous pourrez voyager en Thaïlande sans aucune gêne non plus, en dehors de quelques lieux bien circonscrits, et ça ne vous demandera d'ailleurs aucun effort, comme aux millions de personnes qui viennent dans ce pays en famille par exemple. Pas de sous-entendus, de déformations, de rajouts en douce. Bonne continuation.🙂
Vous indiquez que vous avez voyagé dans ce pays sans en avoir été affecté. De mon côté, je vous indique donc simplement que vous pourrez voyager en Thaïlande sans aucune gêne non plus, en dehors de quelques lieux bien circonscrits, et ça ne vous demandera d'ailleurs aucun effort, comme aux millions de personnes qui viennent dans ce pays en famille par exemple. Pas de sous-entendus, de déformations, de rajouts en douce. Bonne continuation.🙂
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Tiens par exemple:
Voit-on beaucoup de thai s'habiller tres differement de la facon occidentale, comme c'est le cas en Indes (notament dans le Sud, je me rappelle encore de mon arrivee a Trivandrum le premier jour de mon voyage, en face d'1 gentil gars qui me renseignait sur les bus avec les jambes plus ou moins bien envelloppees dans un drap blanc, drap qui arretait pas de vouloir tomber et le torse nu)?
Est il aussi dangereux de marcher du mauvais cote de la route (En Indes toujours, j ai bien failli y passer 1 fois ou 2 en bondissant violemment suite au coup de klaxon furieux d'un camion roi de la route dans mon dos)?
En Inde l'habillement traditionnel est directement lié à l'hindouisme et à la "caste" d'affiliation . Le Lundgi est cependant porté chez les hommes pour faire face à la chaleur , pour plus de confort . Il suffit toutefois d'aller voir a Bengalore ou à Mumbai pour voir la classe moyenne s'afficher plus bling bling que les occidentaux . En thailande dans les campagnes c'est souvent " short et tong " . J'aime aussi cette simplicité .
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hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
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Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
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If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?