Mini-krach boursier à Bangkok: influence sur le baht?
by Praline
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bourse de Paris: le CAC 40 en baisse dans le sillage de la Bourse de Bangkok
Vue du palais Brongniart, place de la Bourse à Paris
© AFP/Archives Jean-Pierre Muller
La Bourse de Paris se repliait mardi à la mi-séance, le CAC 40 cédant 0, 90%, les investisseurs s'inquiétant du plongeon de la Bourse de Bangkok, qui pourrait avoir des conséquences sur les autres places asiatiques.
A 11H45(10H45 GMT), l'indice parisien vedette cédait 50 points à 5.480, 32 points, dans un volume d'échanges de 1, 18 milliard d'euros.
Londres cédait 0, 63%, Francfort 0, 82% et l'Eurostoxx 0, 84%.
"Les investisseurs restent prudents et attendent de voir si le mini-krach boursier de Bangkok ne va pas créer une onde de choc sur les autres places asiatiques, ce qui jouerait sur les Bourses européennes", a commenté un vendeur d'actions d'une société de Bourse indépendante.
La Bourse de Bangkok a vécu mardi sa chute la plus importante en 31 ans (-15%), les investisseurs ayant massivement vendu leurs actions au lendemain d'une intervention de la banque centrale de Thaïlande.
La banque centrale a ordonné aux banques de bloquer pendant un an 30% de chaque nouveau dépôt en devises étrangères dépassant 20.000 dollars, afin de freiner l'afflux de placements étrangers qui contribuent à l'appréciation du baht, la monnaie thailandaise, jugée par elle excessive
la banque centrale devait faire quelque chose, c'est clair.
Mais de là à traiter le problème avec une telle brutalité par un remède d'éléphant ... cela ne conduit qu'aux problèmes.
L'insécurité juridique des investissements en Thaïlande est, depuis septembre, branlant.
L'immobilier souffre des nouvelles mesures imposées aux étrangers......
De quoi, tout simplement rompre la confiance "in fine" Le bath va souffrir sous peu, à mon humble avis.
De quoi, tout simplement rompre la confiance "in fine" Le bath va souffrir sous peu, à mon humble avis.
Longtemps aligné sur le dollar, le baht n'avait pas suivi ce dernier depuis six mois quand il a chuté contre l'euro et la livre entre autres. Les Thai veulent visiblement donner un coup de pouce à leurs exportateurs, jugeant le baht trop élevé. A court ou moyen terme le taux de change euro - baht devrait donc bouger. On risque de revenir vers les 50 pour un euro, voire plus. Bonne nouvelle pour les touristes, mauvaise nouvelle pour ceux qui gagnent leur vie en baht et les changent en euros ou en dollars...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
la chute a été de 2, 5 % du baht par rapport au Dollar, dixit CNN, cela fait environ environ 1 Baht. Cela tombe bien pour les personnes qui partent en vacances.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Sawatdee kha.
Pas forcément une bonnes nouvelle pour les touristes, je pense, déjà que l'économie thailandaise n'a pas réalisée sont décollage complétement ! Les touristes, n'ont pas envie, je l'espère de voir la population thailandaise s'appauvrir d'avantage !
Voilà, que le gouvernement thai, publie une mesure qui risque peut-être d'inquiéter tout nouvel investisseur potentiel en Thailande ! Comment dire à un investisseur, si vous investissez 1 millions d'euros, et quelquesoit la tournure de cette investissement, vous ne pourrait pas récupérer vos 300 000 euros avant 1 an !! Comment dire aux farangs, qui ont acheté ou vont acheter une maison ou un condo, de 3 millions de baths, il faut que vous versiez non pas 3 millions mais bien 3 millions plus 900 000 baths ! Les prix des condos et de l'immobilier en général peuvent en pâtir, et l'adage "qaund le bâtiment va tout va", risque de ne pas s'appliquer en Thailande ! Toutes les économies de chaque pays actuellement repose sur la confiance, et la thailande n'échappe pas à cette régle, c'est pour cela que la bourse thai a chuté ! La thailande, a il est vrai un voisin qui est la chine, qui lui fait une concurrence déloyale, de par sa taille et de sa monnaie Yuan qui s'est dépréciée par rapport bath !🙁
J'espère que demain, les investisseurs vont revenir à la bourse de Bangkok, pour enrayer la crise de CONFIANCE !😉
Erika.
Longtemps aligné sur le dollar, le baht n'avait pas suivi ce dernier depuis six mois quand il a chuté contre l'euro et la livre entre autres. Les Thai veulent visiblement donner un coup de pouce à leurs exportateurs, jugeant le baht trop élevé. A court ou moyen terme le taux de change euro - baht devrait donc bouger. On risque de revenir vers les 50 pour un euro, voire plus. Bonne nouvelle pour les touristes, mauvaise nouvelle pour ceux qui gagnent leur vie en baht et les changent en euros ou en dollars...
Pas forcément une bonnes nouvelle pour les touristes, je pense, déjà que l'économie thailandaise n'a pas réalisée sont décollage complétement ! Les touristes, n'ont pas envie, je l'espère de voir la population thailandaise s'appauvrir d'avantage !
Voilà, que le gouvernement thai, publie une mesure qui risque peut-être d'inquiéter tout nouvel investisseur potentiel en Thailande ! Comment dire à un investisseur, si vous investissez 1 millions d'euros, et quelquesoit la tournure de cette investissement, vous ne pourrait pas récupérer vos 300 000 euros avant 1 an !! Comment dire aux farangs, qui ont acheté ou vont acheter une maison ou un condo, de 3 millions de baths, il faut que vous versiez non pas 3 millions mais bien 3 millions plus 900 000 baths ! Les prix des condos et de l'immobilier en général peuvent en pâtir, et l'adage "qaund le bâtiment va tout va", risque de ne pas s'appliquer en Thailande ! Toutes les économies de chaque pays actuellement repose sur la confiance, et la thailande n'échappe pas à cette régle, c'est pour cela que la bourse thai a chuté ! La thailande, a il est vrai un voisin qui est la chine, qui lui fait une concurrence déloyale, de par sa taille et de sa monnaie Yuan qui s'est dépréciée par rapport bath !🙁
J'espère que demain, les investisseurs vont revenir à la bourse de Bangkok, pour enrayer la crise de CONFIANCE !😉
Erika.
Longtemps aligné sur le dollar, le baht n'avait pas suivi ce dernier depuis six mois quand il a chuté contre l'euro et la livre entre autres. Les Thai veulent visiblement donner un coup de pouce à leurs exportateurs, jugeant le baht trop élevé. A court ou moyen terme le taux de change euro - baht devrait donc bouger. On risque de revenir vers les 50 pour un euro, voire plus. Bonne nouvelle pour les touristes, mauvaise nouvelle pour ceux qui gagnent leur vie en baht et les changent en euros ou en dollars...
Le sage se conforme aux principes éternels :
de la modération, de la droiture, de l'humanité
et de la justice. (Philosophie chinoise).
J'espère que demain, les investisseurs vont revenir à la bourse de Bangkok, pour enrayer la crise
de CONFIANCE !
Ce n'est pas le retour en bourse des investisseurs qui va enrayer la crise de confiance ! C'est lorsque la crise de confiance sera enrayée que les investisseurs reviendront ! Et pour cela il faut que les "politiques" créent - recréent - un climat de confiance et la méthode de ce jour n'est pas la bonne.
Les investisseurs attendent et observent de plus en plus, d'autres ont déjà "gelé" des investissements importants depuis quelques semaines
Ce n'est pas le retour en bourse des investisseurs qui va enrayer la crise de confiance ! C'est lorsque la crise de confiance sera enrayée que les investisseurs reviendront ! Et pour cela il faut que les "politiques" créent - recréent - un climat de confiance et la méthode de ce jour n'est pas la bonne.
Les investisseurs attendent et observent de plus en plus, d'autres ont déjà "gelé" des investissements importants depuis quelques semaines
Alainbo> Ce n'est pas le retour en bourse des investisseurs qui va enrayer la crise de confiance !
C'est lorsque la crise de confiance sera enrayée que les investisseurs reviendront !
Oui, tout à fait d'accord, (le sujet du post était la chute de la bourse, c'est pour cela que j'ai surtout parlé de la bourse). Mais tu as raison, la confiance envers la thailande, ne concerne pas en priorité sa bourse, mais d'abord son dynamisme ; sa compétitivité ; et le cadre politique et législatif il est vrai dans lequel peut se développer son économie ! Et c'est vrai que de telles mesures coercitives, envers les investisseurs étrangers ne sont pas de bonne augure !
Le gouvernement voulait faire chuter le bath, pour favoriser et redynamiser les exportations thailandaises (moteur de son économie), mais il y avait certainement un autre moyen d'y arriver sans risquer de provoquer
un Krach de son économie ! Je ne sais pas, mais baisser drastiquement les taux d'intérêt thailandais par exemple, aurait été mieux accueilli !😉
Erika.
J'espère que demain, les investisseurs vont revenir à la bourse de Bangkok, pour enrayer la crise de CONFIANCE !
Ce n'est pas le retour en bourse des investisseurs qui va enrayer la crise de confiance ! C'est lorsque la crise de confiance sera enrayée que les investisseurs reviendront ! Et pour cela il faut que les "politiques" créent - recréent - un climat de confiance et la méthode de ce jour n'est pas la bonne.
Les investisseurs attendent et observent de plus en plus, d'autres ont déjà "gelé" des investissements importants depuis quelques semaines
Oui, tout à fait d'accord, (le sujet du post était la chute de la bourse, c'est pour cela que j'ai surtout parlé de la bourse). Mais tu as raison, la confiance envers la thailande, ne concerne pas en priorité sa bourse, mais d'abord son dynamisme ; sa compétitivité ; et le cadre politique et législatif il est vrai dans lequel peut se développer son économie ! Et c'est vrai que de telles mesures coercitives, envers les investisseurs étrangers ne sont pas de bonne augure !
Le gouvernement voulait faire chuter le bath, pour favoriser et redynamiser les exportations thailandaises (moteur de son économie), mais il y avait certainement un autre moyen d'y arriver sans risquer de provoquer
un Krach de son économie ! Je ne sais pas, mais baisser drastiquement les taux d'intérêt thailandais par exemple, aurait été mieux accueilli !😉
Erika.J'espère que demain, les investisseurs vont revenir à la bourse de Bangkok, pour enrayer la crise de CONFIANCE !
Ce n'est pas le retour en bourse des investisseurs qui va enrayer la crise de confiance ! C'est lorsque la crise de confiance sera enrayée que les investisseurs reviendront ! Et pour cela il faut que les "politiques" créent - recréent - un climat de confiance et la méthode de ce jour n'est pas la bonne.
Les investisseurs attendent et observent de plus en plus, d'autres ont déjà "gelé" des investissements importants depuis quelques semaines
Le sage se conforme aux principes éternels :
de la modération, de la droiture, de l'humanité
et de la justice. (Philosophie chinoise).
Le gouvernement thai, commence à s'apercevoir de son erreur .....(mais n'épargne que les investissement bousiers ???😛
Extrait de http://fr.biz.yahoo.com/19122006/202/la-thailande-tente-d-enrayer-la-hausse-du-baht-la.html Par Par Anusak KONGLANG mar 19 déc, 16h49
Cependant, face à la tempête boursière, les autorités thaïlandaises ont assoupli leur position dans la soirée en exemptant les investissements étrangers effectués via la bourse de la nouvelle réglementation.
Erika.
D'accord
Le contexte législatif (dans ses aspects de "sécurité juridique") est actuellement UN DES PROBLEMES MAJEURS auxquels sont confrontés les investisseurs (du petit au plus gros).
Wait and see pour la suite des évènements
Extrait de http://fr.biz.yahoo.com/19122006/202/la-thailande-tente-d-enrayer-la-hausse-du-baht-la.html Par Par Anusak KONGLANG mar 19 déc, 16h49
Cependant, face à la tempête boursière, les autorités thaïlandaises ont assoupli leur position dans la soirée en exemptant les investissements étrangers effectués via la bourse de la nouvelle réglementation.
Erika.
D'accord
Le contexte législatif (dans ses aspects de "sécurité juridique") est actuellement UN DES PROBLEMES MAJEURS auxquels sont confrontés les investisseurs (du petit au plus gros).
Wait and see pour la suite des évènements
Le sage se conforme aux principes éternels :
de la modération, de la droiture, de l'humanité
et de la justice. (Philosophie chinoise).
Oui.
Mais le mal est faity et ajoute encore à l'insécurité juridique en changeant une règle à peine instaurée.
Tout change sans cesse, suivant le vent et l'humeur du temps. Attention gros danger en forme de tempête en vue
Sur ce je ne vais pas aller plus loin dans ce post car nous allons trop vers du "hors voyage", objet du forum
Sur ce je ne vais pas aller plus loin dans ce post car nous allons trop vers du "hors voyage", objet du forum
L'Economie de la Thailande n'est pas la construction de condo ou le batiiment ! mais l'exportation de riz, crevettes et autres fruits de mer ect ect...si le baht est trop haut les distributeurs iront se fournir au vietnam ou ailleurs ... et là serait la catastrophe pour les planteurs de riz et autres ouvriers et non pas le mec qui va vendre sa maison à un Farang ..donc méme si la manoeuvre n'est pas excellente, elle permet au baht de descendre ce qu'il faut au plus vite !
Il faut donc "geler" ou ralentir les devises d'investisseurs boursiers qui pratique le systéme de levier et autres financiers "speedwind"
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Il faut donc "geler" ou ralentir les devises d'investisseurs boursiers qui pratique le systéme de levier et autres financiers "speedwind"
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Dans le respect nait la liberté...
Sawatdee kha.
Oui tu as raison Sunpax, les exportations (moteur de l'économie), sont surtout riz, mais tu dis : " Il faut donc "geler" ou ralentir les devises d'investisseurs boursiers qui pratique le systéme de levier et autres financiers "speedwind" " alors que le gouvernement vient d'exempter les investisements boursier de sa nouvelle mesure !(cf mon précédent post)
Et encore une fois, pour faire baisser sa monnaie, on peut baisser ses taux d'intéret ! Et même si l'agricuture exportée représente la majorité de PIB Thai (plus de60%), il n'en demeure pas moins, que les thai ont besoins des investisseurs étranger, pour booster leur technologies et recherches, développer son industrie avec des gains de productivité ! De même que si le tourisme n'est pas prépondérant, il crée quand même beaucoup d'emploi en thailande !😉 Enfin, j'espère que la mesure sera complètement annulée (pas simplement les investissement boursiers), et qu'ils utiliseront un autre moyen pour faire baisser le bath, pour devenir plus compétitfs !
Erika.
L'Economie de la Thurailande n'est pas la construction de condo ou le batiiment ! mais l'exportation de riz, crevettes et autres deet là serait la catastrophe pour les planteurs de riz et autres ouvriers et non pas le mec qui va vendre sa maison à un Farang ..donc méme si la manoeuvre n'est pas excellente, elle permet au baht de descendre ce qu'il faut au plus vite !
Il faut donc "geler" ou ralentir les devises d'investisseurs boursiers qui pratique le systéme de levier et autres financiers "speedwind"
@+
Oui tu as raison Sunpax, les exportations (moteur de l'économie), sont surtout riz, mais tu dis : " Il faut donc "geler" ou ralentir les devises d'investisseurs boursiers qui pratique le systéme de levier et autres financiers "speedwind" " alors que le gouvernement vient d'exempter les investisements boursier de sa nouvelle mesure !(cf mon précédent post)
Et encore une fois, pour faire baisser sa monnaie, on peut baisser ses taux d'intéret ! Et même si l'agricuture exportée représente la majorité de PIB Thai (plus de60%), il n'en demeure pas moins, que les thai ont besoins des investisseurs étranger, pour booster leur technologies et recherches, développer son industrie avec des gains de productivité ! De même que si le tourisme n'est pas prépondérant, il crée quand même beaucoup d'emploi en thailande !😉 Enfin, j'espère que la mesure sera complètement annulée (pas simplement les investissement boursiers), et qu'ils utiliseront un autre moyen pour faire baisser le bath, pour devenir plus compétitfs !
Erika.
L'Economie de la Thurailande n'est pas la construction de condo ou le batiiment ! mais l'exportation de riz, crevettes et autres deet là serait la catastrophe pour les planteurs de riz et autres ouvriers et non pas le mec qui va vendre sa maison à un Farang ..donc méme si la manoeuvre n'est pas excellente, elle permet au baht de descendre ce qu'il faut au plus vite !
Il faut donc "geler" ou ralentir les devises d'investisseurs boursiers qui pratique le systéme de levier et autres financiers "speedwind"
@+
Le sage se conforme aux principes éternels :
de la modération, de la droiture, de l'humanité
et de la justice. (Philosophie chinoise).
Oui ! mais c'était leur intention premiére et puis tu sais... baisser leur taux d'intérét avec une monnaie si faible hum !(et oui c'est contradictoire ;) J'ai aussi eu l'information tôt ce matin en lisant le bangkokpost... en plus les 30% seront rendus avec un bénéfice d'intérét interressant ! non ?
En éspérant que le baht continue de baisser...pour mon portemonnaie et celui des Thailandais...qui au vu du taux verront encore plus de touristes et d'acheteurs ;))
Bonsoir @ bientôt
Mimi

En éspérant que le baht continue de baisser...pour mon portemonnaie et celui des Thailandais...qui au vu du taux verront encore plus de touristes et d'acheteurs ;))
Bonsoir @ bientôt
Mimi
Dans le respect nait la liberté...
ECO - Pour faire fléchir le bath, la BoT fait s'effondrer la Bourse
“C’est le mardi noir !” titre The Nation ce matin. La bourse thaïlandaise s’est littéralement effondrée hier après que la banque centrale a annoncé lundi une mesure draconienne contre l’investissement étranger pour contrôler la hausse du baht. L’indice a chuté de près de 15% pour atteindre son niveau le plus bas depuis près de 20 ans
(Photo Jean-Louis Duzert)
C’est la pire dégringolade en une seule journée que la bourse thaïlandaise ait connue dans les 31 ans de son histoire. Dans les premières minutes de l’ouverture hier, l’indice composite affichait déjà un recul de 8, 83% pour franchir les 10 % à 10h30, obligeant la bourse à cesser les échanges pendant une demi-heure. Une première. À la reprise, la panique persistante a prolongé la chute du marché jusqu’à près de 20%. Et après un léger regain, la bourse thaïlandaise a finalement clôturé la journée sur un recul de 14.84 % soit 800 milliards de bahts de pertes. Remède carabiné Ce krach historique est arrivé après que la Banque de Thaïlande (BoT), lundi, a engagé une mesure pour le moins draconienne afin de contrer la hausse du baht qui avait alors atteint son plus haut niveau depuis neuf ans, frôlant les 35 bahts pour un dollar, malgré une série d’actions engagées ces dernières semaines. Selon le ministre des Finances, Pridiyathorn Devakula, il s’agit de décourager les investisseurs étrangers qui spéculent à court terme sur la croissance du baht face au dollar, et contribuent ainsi à accélérer la tendance. La BoT a donc ordonné lundi aux banques de bloquer pendant un an 30% de tout dépôt de devises étrangères de plus de 20.000 dollars échangées contre du baht, et d’en prélever le tiers en cas de retrait avant un an. Les investisseurs étrangers sont ainsi doublement pénalisés puisque non seulement ils ne disposeront désormais que de 70% des fonds qu’ils auront transférés, mais en plus ils risquent de perdre 10% du total. De quoi effectivement dissuader les investisseurs étrangers... Augmenter la dose si nécessaire Cette mesure, la plus drastique prise par la banque centrale thaïlandaise depuis la crise de 1997, "a eu l’effet attendu", se félicitait hier Nitaya Pibulratanakit, l’assistante du gouverneur de la banque centrale, qui envisage d’introduire de nouvelles mesures si la spéculation persiste. La devise thaïlandaise a connu hier sa plus forte baisse (1, 1%) depuis avril 2005 après avoir grimpé de 14% par rapport au dollar depuis le début de l’année, affichant le niveau le plus élevé des monnaies de la région. Le ministre des Finances a souligné que la BoT agissait dans l’intérêt du secteur privé, dont la compétitivité est menacée par la hausse du baht, en particulier l’exportation, qui pèse 60% du PIB thaïlandais. Cela n’a néanmoins pas empêché les critiques de dénoncer aussitôt une mesure "trop sévère", responsable de "lourdes pertes durables pour l’économie du pays". Certains comme Korn Chatikavanij du Democrat Party appelaient hier les autorités bancaires à "revenir sur cette mesure tant qu’il était encore temps", tandis que d’autres prônaient un contrôle plus sélectif des flux de capitaux afin d’épargner le marché des actions. Plusieurs banques étrangères hier n’ont pas coté le baht sur le marché offshore, évoquant le manque de clarté de cette nouvelle réglementation ainsi que la pagaille du marché, toujours perceptible. Le moins que l’on puisse dire est que l’investissement étranger n’est pas à la fête cette année. Après l’affaire des prête-noms qui cause déjà beaucoup de soucis à la communauté d’affaire étrangère, la Thaïlande a beaucoup moins l’air "business friendly". Pierre Queffélec, Le petit journal de Bangkok mercredi 20 décembre 2006 Réactions en chaîne sur la région Quatorze des 15 monnaies les plus actives de la zone Asie-Pacifique ont chuté hier, suivant le baht, la roupie indonésienne en tête. Plusieurs banques centrales s’inquiètent de voir la hausse de leur monnaie par rapport au dollar miner leurs exportations et leur croissance économique. Le peso philippin, qui a perdu hier 0, 8 %, avait atteint lundi son niveau le plus élevé depuis mai 2002. Le won coréen quant à lui, n’avait pas été aussi fort par rapport au dollar depuis 9 ans, tandis que le yen a atteint un niveau intenable pour les exportateurs. Hier, certains analystes se demandaient quels pays allaient emboîter le pas à la Thaïlande pour contrer la hausse de leur monnaie, évoquant notamment la Malaisie, les Philippines, ou encore la Corée du Sud. Cette dernière a cependant fait savoir qu’elle n’envisageait pas de prendre de mesures de contrôle "artificielles", de même que l’Indonésie. Les places boursières de la région ont également fléchi : Jakarta a perdu 2, 85 %, Kuala Lumpur, 2 % et Singapour, 2.23 %.
“C’est le mardi noir !” titre The Nation ce matin. La bourse thaïlandaise s’est littéralement effondrée hier après que la banque centrale a annoncé lundi une mesure draconienne contre l’investissement étranger pour contrôler la hausse du baht. L’indice a chuté de près de 15% pour atteindre son niveau le plus bas depuis près de 20 ans
(Photo Jean-Louis Duzert)C’est la pire dégringolade en une seule journée que la bourse thaïlandaise ait connue dans les 31 ans de son histoire. Dans les premières minutes de l’ouverture hier, l’indice composite affichait déjà un recul de 8, 83% pour franchir les 10 % à 10h30, obligeant la bourse à cesser les échanges pendant une demi-heure. Une première. À la reprise, la panique persistante a prolongé la chute du marché jusqu’à près de 20%. Et après un léger regain, la bourse thaïlandaise a finalement clôturé la journée sur un recul de 14.84 % soit 800 milliards de bahts de pertes. Remède carabiné Ce krach historique est arrivé après que la Banque de Thaïlande (BoT), lundi, a engagé une mesure pour le moins draconienne afin de contrer la hausse du baht qui avait alors atteint son plus haut niveau depuis neuf ans, frôlant les 35 bahts pour un dollar, malgré une série d’actions engagées ces dernières semaines. Selon le ministre des Finances, Pridiyathorn Devakula, il s’agit de décourager les investisseurs étrangers qui spéculent à court terme sur la croissance du baht face au dollar, et contribuent ainsi à accélérer la tendance. La BoT a donc ordonné lundi aux banques de bloquer pendant un an 30% de tout dépôt de devises étrangères de plus de 20.000 dollars échangées contre du baht, et d’en prélever le tiers en cas de retrait avant un an. Les investisseurs étrangers sont ainsi doublement pénalisés puisque non seulement ils ne disposeront désormais que de 70% des fonds qu’ils auront transférés, mais en plus ils risquent de perdre 10% du total. De quoi effectivement dissuader les investisseurs étrangers... Augmenter la dose si nécessaire Cette mesure, la plus drastique prise par la banque centrale thaïlandaise depuis la crise de 1997, "a eu l’effet attendu", se félicitait hier Nitaya Pibulratanakit, l’assistante du gouverneur de la banque centrale, qui envisage d’introduire de nouvelles mesures si la spéculation persiste. La devise thaïlandaise a connu hier sa plus forte baisse (1, 1%) depuis avril 2005 après avoir grimpé de 14% par rapport au dollar depuis le début de l’année, affichant le niveau le plus élevé des monnaies de la région. Le ministre des Finances a souligné que la BoT agissait dans l’intérêt du secteur privé, dont la compétitivité est menacée par la hausse du baht, en particulier l’exportation, qui pèse 60% du PIB thaïlandais. Cela n’a néanmoins pas empêché les critiques de dénoncer aussitôt une mesure "trop sévère", responsable de "lourdes pertes durables pour l’économie du pays". Certains comme Korn Chatikavanij du Democrat Party appelaient hier les autorités bancaires à "revenir sur cette mesure tant qu’il était encore temps", tandis que d’autres prônaient un contrôle plus sélectif des flux de capitaux afin d’épargner le marché des actions. Plusieurs banques étrangères hier n’ont pas coté le baht sur le marché offshore, évoquant le manque de clarté de cette nouvelle réglementation ainsi que la pagaille du marché, toujours perceptible. Le moins que l’on puisse dire est que l’investissement étranger n’est pas à la fête cette année. Après l’affaire des prête-noms qui cause déjà beaucoup de soucis à la communauté d’affaire étrangère, la Thaïlande a beaucoup moins l’air "business friendly". Pierre Queffélec, Le petit journal de Bangkok mercredi 20 décembre 2006 Réactions en chaîne sur la région Quatorze des 15 monnaies les plus actives de la zone Asie-Pacifique ont chuté hier, suivant le baht, la roupie indonésienne en tête. Plusieurs banques centrales s’inquiètent de voir la hausse de leur monnaie par rapport au dollar miner leurs exportations et leur croissance économique. Le peso philippin, qui a perdu hier 0, 8 %, avait atteint lundi son niveau le plus élevé depuis mai 2002. Le won coréen quant à lui, n’avait pas été aussi fort par rapport au dollar depuis 9 ans, tandis que le yen a atteint un niveau intenable pour les exportateurs. Hier, certains analystes se demandaient quels pays allaient emboîter le pas à la Thaïlande pour contrer la hausse de leur monnaie, évoquant notamment la Malaisie, les Philippines, ou encore la Corée du Sud. Cette dernière a cependant fait savoir qu’elle n’envisageait pas de prendre de mesures de contrôle "artificielles", de même que l’Indonésie. Les places boursières de la région ont également fléchi : Jakarta a perdu 2, 85 %, Kuala Lumpur, 2 % et Singapour, 2.23 %.
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Le SET est à +10%... Je ne comprends plus rien à cette histoire 🤪
@+
Thibaut
Sawatdee kha.
Regarde 4 post plus haut j'avais écris, que le gouvernement thai, retirait sa mesure pour les investissement boursiers seulement, eux seuls seront exonérés ! Ce qui explique que la bourse elle se reprends !
Erika. Extrait de http://fr.biz.yahoo.com/...usse-du-baht-la.html Par Par Anusak KONGLANG mar 19 déc, 16h49
Cependant, face à la tempête boursière, les autorités thaïlandaises ont assoupli leur position dans la soirée en exemptant les investissements étrangers effectués via la bourse de la nouvelle réglementation
Le SET est à +10%... Je ne comprends plus rien à cette histoire 🤪
Regarde 4 post plus haut j'avais écris, que le gouvernement thai, retirait sa mesure pour les investissement boursiers seulement, eux seuls seront exonérés ! Ce qui explique que la bourse elle se reprends !
Erika. Extrait de http://fr.biz.yahoo.com/...usse-du-baht-la.html Par Par Anusak KONGLANG mar 19 déc, 16h49
Cependant, face à la tempête boursière, les autorités thaïlandaises ont assoupli leur position dans la soirée en exemptant les investissements étrangers effectués via la bourse de la nouvelle réglementation
Le SET est à +10%... Je ne comprends plus rien à cette histoire 🤪
Le sage se conforme aux principes éternels :
de la modération, de la droiture, de l'humanité
et de la justice. (Philosophie chinoise).
J'ai vu... mais le but était quand même de faire dévaluer le bahts. Quand je vois le taux de change aujourd'hui: pas de grosses différences avec la semaine dernière... Un coup dans l'eau?
@+
Thibaut
Oui, pour la pseudo baisse du bath qui devait arriver un coup d'épée dans l'eau !😛
Par contre, la mesure restant pour les autres investissements étrangers (autres que boursiers), elle risque d'être néfaste pour l'économie thai !🙁
En plus, le gouvernement thai, n'a pas renforcé sa crédibilité, ni sa confiance en matière économique, en faisant machine arrière, dès qu'il s'est aperçu de son erreur !😕 🏴☠️
Erika.
J'ai vu... mais le but était quand même de faire dévaluer le bahts. Quand je vois le taux de change aujourd'hui: pas de grosses différences avec la semaine dernière... Un coup dans l'eau?
Par contre, la mesure restant pour les autres investissements étrangers (autres que boursiers), elle risque d'être néfaste pour l'économie thai !🙁
En plus, le gouvernement thai, n'a pas renforcé sa crédibilité, ni sa confiance en matière économique, en faisant machine arrière, dès qu'il s'est aperçu de son erreur !😕 🏴☠️
Erika.
J'ai vu... mais le but était quand même de faire dévaluer le bahts. Quand je vois le taux de change aujourd'hui: pas de grosses différences avec la semaine dernière... Un coup dans l'eau?
Le sage se conforme aux principes éternels :
de la modération, de la droiture, de l'humanité
et de la justice. (Philosophie chinoise).
Je ne comprends plus rien du tout:
Le gouvernement a fait marche arrière. L'euro valait 46, 5 B après le krach. aujourd'hui, le taux de change est de 48, 1 bahts / 1 euro 🤪.
@+
Thibaut
Cela montre clairement que la confiance (dont question dans plusieurs posts) est plus que très entamée
A force de vouloir faire à sa tête, de jouer à l'apprenti-sorcier ...
Le coup de la réouverture probable de Don Muang ... à cause d'un nouvel aéroport déjà sature (prévisible dès l'ouverture avec seulement 2 pistes au lieu de 4 !!!) ... Plus toutes les autres histoires ...
Il y a de quoi se poser des questions. Mais je suppose que fidèle à la tradition locale, cette baisse brutale de le bourse suivie d'une hausse très forte n'est pas perdue pour tout le monde !
Le coup de la réouverture probable de Don Muang ... à cause d'un nouvel aéroport déjà sature (prévisible dès l'ouverture avec seulement 2 pistes au lieu de 4 !!!) ... Plus toutes les autres histoires ...
Il y a de quoi se poser des questions. Mais je suppose que fidèle à la tradition locale, cette baisse brutale de le bourse suivie d'une hausse très forte n'est pas perdue pour tout le monde !
Le baht se porte tres bien, ces derniers temps, vis a vis de l euro et du dollard americain ! (au niveau du change je parle, pas de bon change pour nous).
La siam commercial Bank pratique les meilleurs taux de change en general par rapport aux autres banques.....
https://www.scbbusiness.com/exchange/bk-pvsexchange.htm
La siam commercial Bank pratique les meilleurs taux de change en general par rapport aux autres banques.....
https://www.scbbusiness.com/exchange/bk-pvsexchange.htm
le temps passe....
ce jour : ( oanda )
Thursday, January 18, 2007
1 Euro = 46.33122 Thai Baht
1 Thai Baht (THB) = 0.02158 Euro (EUR)
Median price = 46.26117 / 46.33122 (bid/ask)
Estimated price based on daily US dollar rates.
Je ne comprends plus rien du tout: Le gouvernement a fait marche arrière. L'euro valait 46, 5 B après le krach. aujourd'hui, le taux de change est de 48, 1 bahts / 1 euro 🤪.
Je ne comprends plus rien du tout: Le gouvernement a fait marche arrière. L'euro valait 46, 5 B après le krach. aujourd'hui, le taux de change est de 48, 1 bahts / 1 euro 🤪.
dans combien de temps ?, çà m'interesse cause virement en vue
ca m'intéresse aussi, j'attends le moment propice pour envoye de l'argent mais comme c'est parti, je risque d'attendre un bon moment car le rapport euro/bath est de moins en moins favorable
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Bonjour à tous.
je prépare mon voyage et d'après tous les post lus, ce pays est incroyable.
Evidemment j'ai une tonne de questions à vous poser.
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qu'en pensez-vous ?
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cela vaut-il le coup de prendre un bateau lent pour un trajet sur le Mékong et si oui quel trajet ?
Concernant les hébergements, est il préférable de passer par booking et Agoda ou chercher en arrivant ?
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est-ce une bonne option de louer des scooters pour visiter les villes et si oui lesquelles ?
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j'ai encore des tas de questions . Merci à ceux qui peuvent m'aider et preneuse de tout conseils, infos etc... encore merci
Concernant les hébergements, est il préférable de passer par booking et Agoda ou chercher en arrivant ?
est ce que les moustiques sont voraces au Laos et faut-il un traitement contre le paludisme ? quel est le budget moyen par jour environ (hébergement - nourriture- visite)
est-ce une bonne option de louer des scooters pour visiter les villes et si oui lesquelles ?
d'après ce que je lis, il est préférable d'avoir des espèces sur soi - euros ou dollars ? ce n'est pas trop dangereux de se promener avec autant de billets ?
j'ai encore des tas de questions . Merci à ceux qui peuvent m'aider et preneuse de tout conseils, infos etc... encore merci
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
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Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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Hi everyone,
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Hi there,
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Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
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Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
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After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
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Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
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Thanks
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Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon