Trajet Xining à Chengdu - Amdo
by Wolong
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Tashidele
Je pars très bientot de Xining à Chengdu via Tongren - Xiahe - Langmusi - Aba -Jiuzhi - Rangtang -Seda - Ganzi - Kangding avec mon beau père qui est assez agé. Je suis déjà allé à Tongren - Xiahe - Langmusi en 2005 mais on passe par là pour monter progressivement en altitude plutot que de passer par Dari dans le Qinghai.
J'ai lu dans le forum que Tongren est devenue tres touristique (il ya 5 ans c'était très sympa). Dois je sauter cette étape et visiter Hezuo par exemple. De Ruo'ergai, vers Aba, me conseillez vous la visite du fleuve jaune. Savez vous comment rejoindre Jiuzhi Jigdril autrement que par Aba.
Avez vous des infos sur ces étapes (incontournables - visites - hotels). J'ai le guide Footprint qui est très orienté monastère en activité. En plus certains lieux que je retrouve sur le net n'y figurent pas (monastère de Bangtuo par exemple) et la correspondance Tibétain Chinois n'est pas toujours aisée.
Merci à tous pour vos conseils
Bonjour,
Je compte faire une étape à Xining avant d'aller à Lhasa.
Que me conseillez-vous comme visite incontournable dans cette ville ?
Merci.
Bonjour,
Le Musée de la province du Qinghai (gratuit), et le temple Beishansi. Ils ne sont pas inoubliables, mais permettent de meubler honorablement la journée. La mosquée principale est assez décevante. Attention, on trouve très facilement des taxis à Xining dans la journée, mais le soir, c'est galère pour en trouver un libre. J'ai bien cru rater le train.
Je compte faire une étape à Xining avant d'aller à Lhasa.
Que me conseillez-vous comme visite incontournable dans cette ville ?
Merci.
Bonjour,
Le Musée de la province du Qinghai (gratuit), et le temple Beishansi. Ils ne sont pas inoubliables, mais permettent de meubler honorablement la journée. La mosquée principale est assez décevante. Attention, on trouve très facilement des taxis à Xining dans la journée, mais le soir, c'est galère pour en trouver un libre. J'ai bien cru rater le train.
Tashidele
J'ai lu dans le forum que Tongren est devenue tres touristique (il ya 5 ans c'était très sympa). Dois je sauter cette étape et visiter Hezuo par exemple.
Tashidele! je te propose fortement Hezuo, le paysage y est très sympa et magnifique. Pourtant, je crois que si tu auras sauté Tongren, tu rateras l'art fabuleux de Regong. L'art de Regong constitue un grand part de l'art tibétain.
Tashidele! je te propose fortement Hezuo, le paysage y est très sympa et magnifique. Pourtant, je crois que si tu auras sauté Tongren, tu rateras l'art fabuleux de Regong. L'art de Regong constitue un grand part de l'art tibétain.
Tashidele
Merci pour la reponse - je viens de finir une petite viree de 10 jours en pays AMDO. Ci dessous le CR
Xining Tongren 3-4 h de bus
Tongren Wutanshang- Wutanxia accessible en minibus pour 2yuna/ pax. Ca a pas mal change par la mais les artistes ne se sont pas envoles meme si le prix de leurs oeuvres lui s'est bien envole.
Tongren Xiahe 3 h de bus
Xiahe Langmusi bus direct 4-5 bus 1 a 2 fois / jour. A defaut bus regulier pour Hezuo et de nombreux bus pour Langmusi
De Langmusi il y a des bus pour Maqu vers 10 H. Pour partir plus tot prendre bus vers Hezuo descndre au carrefour de Gahai et attendre bus de Hezuo a Maqu ou prendre minibus qui attend d'etre complet pour partir (15Y/pax). Maqu est une de ces nouvelles villes du far-west sans grand interet sauf de nous conduire vers Jiuzhi et de traverser des paysages grandioses et relativement intacts. Bus 1/ jour a 6.30 pour 60 Y environ 4-5 H. A defaut et pour eviter de rester la nuit a Maqu possible de louer une voiture 350-400 yuan. Route en bitume pendant la 1/2 du voyage et piste en assez bon etat.
A Jiuzhi visite du lac Nianbao Yuzi en louant taxi 120 Y aller - 1 H de route. Superbe et rarement visite sauf en juillet / aout. Possible de louer cheval 100 Yuan
Jiuzhi - Aba minibus 20Y / pax - 1 H - route abimee.
Aba ville sous haute surveillance policiere. Beau temple mais fortement controle par PSB. Visiteurs etrangers a ABA doivent se declarer et ne sont pas les bienvenus.
Aba - Maerkang 60 yuan 7 H de bus. Maerkang ville fortemeent developpee un peu comme Kanding. Tour de 17 etages... Chef lieu du dstrict de ABA. 5-6 bus / jour pour Chengdu Chadianzi mais billets pas faciles a acheter. S'y prendre l'avant veille. Voyage 8H -92 yuan. Route defoncee pendant les 3/4 du voyage jusqu a Wenchuan.
J espere que ce CR en aidera certains
Bonsoir Wolong,
En train de préparer un trip dans le Kham et l'Amdo, je suis tombée sur les tuyaux que tu donnes et je les mets de côté pour ma virée, merci.
En train de préparer un trip dans le Kham et l'Amdo, je suis tombée sur les tuyaux que tu donnes et je les mets de côté pour ma virée, merci.
"Voyager ne sert pas beaucoup à comprendre mais à réactiver pendant un instant l’usage des yeux : la lecture du monde".
Italo Calvino, Collection de sable (1984)
Tashidele
Merci pour la reponse - je viens de finir une petite viree de 10 jours en pays AMDO. Ci dessous le CR ...
J espere que ce CR en aidera certains
Salut je viens de lire ton CR...très intéressé aussi car projet pour Septembre prochain. A ce propos quel était le temps en Septembre , pas trop froid, pluie ? Après Barkam ( ou Markeam ?) tu as rejoint Chengdu en bus direct ? tu es passé par Danba et sa région ? Merci pour les réponses Bon dimanche 😉
Salut je viens de lire ton CR...très intéressé aussi car projet pour Septembre prochain. A ce propos quel était le temps en Septembre , pas trop froid, pluie ? Après Barkam ( ou Markeam ?) tu as rejoint Chengdu en bus direct ? tu es passé par Danba et sa région ? Merci pour les réponses Bon dimanche 😉
mgt
Bonsoir Wolong,
En train de préparer un trip dans le Kham et l'Amdo, je suis tombée sur les tuyaux que tu donnes et je les mets de côté pour ma virée, merci.
Salut nous aussi en pleine prépa pour une virée dans ces coins là...si régions pas fermées 😕😕 ! On part fin Août pour un mois et j'ai du mal à finaliser le programme vu les évènements : Amdo ou Kham ou un peu des 2 😐 Dernières nouvelles de Chengdu : la région de Danba serait accessible, même Litang et Ganzi ! As-tu une idée bien précise déja ? Trajet ? Bus ou voiture ( nous on sera 4 !) ? A plus pour un échange d'infos 😉 Bonne journée
En train de préparer un trip dans le Kham et l'Amdo, je suis tombée sur les tuyaux que tu donnes et je les mets de côté pour ma virée, merci.
Salut nous aussi en pleine prépa pour une virée dans ces coins là...si régions pas fermées 😕😕 ! On part fin Août pour un mois et j'ai du mal à finaliser le programme vu les évènements : Amdo ou Kham ou un peu des 2 😐 Dernières nouvelles de Chengdu : la région de Danba serait accessible, même Litang et Ganzi ! As-tu une idée bien précise déja ? Trajet ? Bus ou voiture ( nous on sera 4 !) ? A plus pour un échange d'infos 😉 Bonne journée
mgt
Salut
En Septembre c est la fin des pluies. ca peut etre variable comme temps. Pour info les glissemsnts de terrain dans le Qinghai etaeint en fin 08 debut 09 de memoire.
Niveau chaleur pas de soucis en 09 mais des polaires somt de rigueur si le temps tourne ou pour la nuit.
De Maerkang on a fait rejoint Chengdu en direct mais il y a des bus par Danba. On avait visite Danba l annee avant et c est assez sympa. Pour moi le must du Kham c est autour de Dege. Donc en bus Chenfdu Kangding-Tagong -Danba-Ganzi-Manigango-Dege et sq region (loc de voiture) puis possible de descendre vers Yading via Litang ou de monter vers Yushu (de Manigango). Les trajets peuvent durer 1 journee donc prevoir du temps en bus.
Pour l Amdo c est plus simple en temps de trajet autour de Xining Lanzhou (Xiahe -Repkong-Langmsui) puis descente vers Jiuzhaigou et Songpan (touristiaue) ou vers Maqu et Jiuzhi (hors des sentiers battus)
Je pourrai te repondre davantage + tard apres la fin de mes vcances. Direction Topkapi ...
A+
Super et merci pour les infos 😉
Si j'ai bien tout lu , tu te diriges vers la Turquie : palais de Topkapi je présume ? On y était l'an dernier à la même époque ..Bon voyage ! 🙂🙂
mgt
Hello!
Désolée pour la réponse tardive, j'ai du louper ton post!! Je n'ai pas eu trop de temps pour avancer dans mon intinéraire, je sais seulement que je resterai dans le Kham, je voudrais passer une nuit dans une nonerie, aller dans la vallée de Dzongsar (frontière avec le Tibet, au sud de Manigango) et pour le reste.... à voir! Je voyage seule, en bus. Et vous, vous avez finalisé votre trajet?
Désolée pour la réponse tardive, j'ai du louper ton post!! Je n'ai pas eu trop de temps pour avancer dans mon intinéraire, je sais seulement que je resterai dans le Kham, je voudrais passer une nuit dans une nonerie, aller dans la vallée de Dzongsar (frontière avec le Tibet, au sud de Manigango) et pour le reste.... à voir! Je voyage seule, en bus. Et vous, vous avez finalisé votre trajet?
"Voyager ne sert pas beaucoup à comprendre mais à réactiver pendant un instant l’usage des yeux : la lecture du monde".
Italo Calvino, Collection de sable (1984)
Salut
De notre côté, rien de nouveau non plus...j'attends jusqu'à début août, et je mets un plan B sous le coude...au cas où sinon ce devrait être :
Pékin - Lanzhou - Xiahé - Langmusi - Songpan - Chengdu - Pyngiao - Datong pour résumé
A plus
Nous aussi on voyage en bus et peut-etre un coup d'aile pour la grande distance 😉
mgt
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Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Hi there!
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
Hi everyone who’s reading this!
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !