Transsibérien: hôtel ou hostel à Tayga (Russie)
by Fleurtje
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je suis en plein préparatifs pour mon voyage en transsibérien, départ depuis Paris, le 17 août (tout en train jusqu'à Peking!!).
Après une première étape à Moscou, je voudrais aller passer quelques jours à Kazan (deux ou trois, j'hésite... je voudrais faire un tour en bateau sur la Volga). La troisième étape sera Tomsk, mais il n'y pas de ligne direct Kazan-Tomsk, mon idée était de faire Kazan-Tayga, puis passer une nuit sur place (le train devrait y arriver à 21h30) et partir tôt le lendemain matin. MAIS je ne trouve pas d'hôtels dans cette ville. C'est bizarre, non?? Qui a déjà fait étape dans cette ville et dormi à l'hôtel ?!!
Merci beaucoup, chers voyageurs !
Fleur
je suis depuis 2 mois a velo en russie
Moscou-perm-ekaterinbourg-samara-volgograd-elista-vladikavkaz. Suis bloque a la frontiere georgienne pour cause eboulement. Dans toutes les grandes villes il existe des hostels entre 400rb et 700rb. Mais je ne sais pas ou est Tayga. Tu trouvera alors peut-etre des gastinitsa comme celle ou j'ai dormi tout le long du voyage entre 400 et 800rb. Mais il faut etre sur place.
luc
Achetez le billet Kazan-Novossibirsk, et apres - Novossibirsk-Tomsk (train 142H par exemple ou beaucoup des bus chaque heure). ...Tayga - c'est petit ville et dans internet russe j'ai cherche seulement 1 hotel (N 56° 4' 7.4676" E 85° 37' 34.158").
excusez mon francais)
Merci pour vos réponses, Marselino et Luc !!
Marselino, c'est très gentil d'avoir regardé sur internet s'il y avait bien un hotel à Tayga :) !!! Je vais voir une fois partie en transsibérien comment je vais faire !
Je pourrais effectivement aussi passer une nuit à Novossibirsk ou bien à Yekaterinburg. J'ai lu qu'il y a la-bas des dortoirs à la gare. Savez-vous si cela ne pose pas de problème pour une femme qui voyage seule, comme moi ? C'est peut-être mieux de dormir à l'hôtel ?
Merci encore, Fleur
A EKATERINBOURG, il existe une auberge de jeunesse ou HOSTEL
sont nom; RED STAR HOSTEL (sympa). C'est en ville et suffit de prendre un bus qui passe pas loin. Moi, j'etais a velo. cherche sur internet
luc
Super, je note, Luc!! Merci pour tes conseils et puis bonne continuation de ton voyage à velo!!! Ca doit être super aussi !!!
J'ai lu que dans la gare Novossibirsk il y a Room long holiday (http://novosibirsk-glavnyiy.dzvr.ru/en/), mais je ne sais pas qu-est que c'est que: c'est comfort ou pas? Je ne visitais pas les dordoirs jamais).
Mais j'espere que pendant long voyage sur le train on peut fatiger de l'atmosphere des gares, des hommes qui comprennent russe seulement. Ce pourquoi le variant qui est mieux c'est hostel?
Regardez booking, les hostels qui se trouvent a cote de la gare Novossibirsk. Par exemple ce sont Hostel Domashniy, rue Lenine 55 ou Hostel Friends, rue Vokzalnaya magistral 5 qui ont les bons notes. Sur la rue Lenine il ya tres beaucoup des resto, cafe. On peut balader, visiter les shops, regarder la place de Lenine avec l'Opera et etc. Vous pouvez visiter le petit-resto Pardon My French, ou mon ami francais est le chef. Le verre du vin et le fromage domicile c'est tres bon pour le soir).
En ce qui concerne de la securite... c'est comme dans les autres villes grandes.
En ce qui concerne de la securite... c'est comme dans les autres villes grandes.
excusez mon francais)
Merci de nouveau, pour tous ces conseils précieux, je note tout (surtout l'adresse de ton ami qui tient ce restaurant ;)!!!
En fait, le dortoir à la gare peut être pratique pour se "reposer" un peu du fait que le train vers Tomsk y part à 4h du matin (seul train direct, une fois par jour) !!! Sinon, je perds une journée... ce qui n'est pas forcément très grave... mais je n'avais pas forcément envie de visiter les très grandes villes sur la ligne du transsiberien. Si j'ai bien lu dans d'autres posts sur ce forum, tu recommandes plutôt Novossibirsk que Yekaterinburg (s'il faut choisir entre ces deux grandes villes pour faire en stop pour faire Kazan-Tomsk) ?
que le train vers Tomsk y part à 4h du matin (seul train direct, une fois par jour) !!!
mais... regardez le train #142H Novossibirsk-Tomsk. Il part a 14-20 chaque jour. http://www.tutu.travel/poezda/view_d.php?np=222563
A mon avis, Ekat (Ekaterinburg) est plus interessant que Nsk (Novossibirsk) pour les etrangers. Le centre d'Ekat est tres belle et etc. J'ai visite Ekat il y a 1 an.
mais... regardez le train #142H Novossibirsk-Tomsk. Il part a 14-20 chaque jour. http://www.tutu.travel/poezda/view_d.php?np=222563
A mon avis, Ekat (Ekaterinburg) est plus interessant que Nsk (Novossibirsk) pour les etrangers. Le centre d'Ekat est tres belle et etc. J'ai visite Ekat il y a 1 an.
excusez mon francais)
Pardon, tu as raison, je voulais dire KAZAN-TOMSK! Effectivement, depuis Yekaterinburg et Novossibirsk, ça doit être plus tard !!!
Yekaterinburg m'attire aussi un peu plus, pour son histoire...
Oups, je m'emmele les pinceaux, je voulais dire Yekaterinburg-Tomsk, ce train (038H) part tous les deux jours à 4h du matin depuis Yekaterinburg..., il me semble... d'oû mon idée de me reposer dans le dortoir de la gare si j'arrive de Kazan (pas de train direct pour Tomsk) en début de soirée...
Marselino, quel est pour toi le meilleur site pour réserver des trains et consulter les horaires , tutu.travel ? Jusque-là, j'ai consulté russiantrains.com
Bonne journée !
Fleur
Je pense que le meilleur site c'est le site officiel de Russian Railways en anglais.
http://pass.rzd.ru/main-pass/public/en/main-pass/public/en
Votre plan est equilibre, a mon avis).
Votre plan est equilibre, a mon avis).
excusez mon francais)
1 jour sur 2, il y a un horaire de correspondance plus confortable, avec "escale" à Novossibirsk 13:50 -16:36 heure de Moscou, et arrivée à 21:34 heure locale à Tomsk (voir site des chemins de fer russes RZD pour horaires et réservations, ou Deutsche Bahn pour la simple recherche d'horaires)
ok, super, je vais alors passer par ce site :) !!
Thanks!!!
1 jour sur 2, il y a un horaire de correspondance plus confortable, avec "escale" à Novossibirsk 13:50 -16:36 heure de Moscou, et arrivée à 21:34 heure locale à Tomsk (voir site des chemins de fer russes RZD pour horaires et réservations, ou Deutsche Bahn pour la simple recherche d'horaires)
ok, je n'avais pas vu celui là, ça serait parfait, de faire "escale" à Novossibirsk :) ! Merci !!!
ok, je n'avais pas vu celui là, ça serait parfait, de faire "escale" à Novossibirsk :) ! Merci !!!
J'ai déjà fait l'itinéraire dont tu parles (Kazan - Ekaterinburg - Tomsk)
De mémoire, j'étais arrivé vers 21h (heure locale) à Ekaterinburg, et reparti à 2h du matin vers Tomsk. On avait loué une chambre au Marins Hotel (en face de la gare) pour pas cher.
De Tomsk, tu as également un train direct vers Irkutsk, c'est un local lent (pas de 1ère classe, s'arrête un peu partout) mais rétrospectivement tu gagnes du temps par rapport à un retour sur Taïga pour reprendre la voie normale via le 002 "Rossiya" par exemple.
De mémoire, j'étais arrivé vers 21h (heure locale) à Ekaterinburg, et reparti à 2h du matin vers Tomsk. On avait loué une chambre au Marins Hotel (en face de la gare) pour pas cher.
De Tomsk, tu as également un train direct vers Irkutsk, c'est un local lent (pas de 1ère classe, s'arrête un peu partout) mais rétrospectivement tu gagnes du temps par rapport à un retour sur Taïga pour reprendre la voie normale via le 002 "Rossiya" par exemple.
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Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)