Bonjour
Je me pose pas mal de questions sur ce trek qui se déroule comme suit :
Kanji/ Dibling /lingshed sumdo puis Hanuma la et reprise de la traversée classique jusqu' a Pidmo en 8 jours ?
Ensuite apres un peu de repos a Padum jeep jusqu' a Dorzong /purne/phuktal/Yata/Nyalokungse la /Satak/ Tsokmitsik /brandy nalah en 7 jours ?
Quelqu' un a t il fait ce trajet ?
Merci d' avance 😉
Bonjour,
J'avais préparé ce trek sur le papier il y a quelques années, mais je n'ai pas pu le réaliser. J'étais arrivé très tôt en juillet à Kanji et les locaux m'ont dit qu'il y avait trop d'eau pour le moment dans le torrent qui descend du Pudzong La avant Dibling.
Il faut donc partir plus tard en août quand la fonte des neiges est terminée, et s'il a peu neigé l'hiver précédent, ce sera un avantage.
Les étapes sont les suivantes : - 1 : aux 2/3 de la montée du Kanji La, - 2 : confluent du Kanji La Tokpo et du Pudzong La Tokpo, - 3 : après le Pudzong La et avant Dibling, - 4 : Lingshed Sumdo.
L'étape 4 oblige à de nombreuses traversées de la rivière Oma Chu. Une variante plus pénible permet de relier directement Dibling à Lingshed en franchissant trois cols dont un à plus de 5000 m.
La suite se passe sur l'itinéraire classique de la Traversée du Zanskar : Hanuma La, - 5 : Snertse, Parfi La, - 6 : Hanumil, Pidmo, - 7 : Zangla.
On peut donc être en 7 jours à Pidmo, mais il est dommage de ne pas prendre une journée pour Lingshed et une autre pour Zangla, avant de rejoindre Padum par la route.
La deuxième partie est plus facile avec un seul passage délicat ; la traversée de la Zara Chu.
On peut aller en voiture jusqu'à Dorzong, un hameau de deux maisons, et même jusqu'aux abords de Anmu qu'on peut atteindre le même jour après 1 h de marche (en 2016, mais les travaux avancent vite !).
Ensuite Anmu-Phuktal se fait dans la journée. On ne passe pas à Purne, et si vous avez des chevaux, ils ne peuvent pas emprunter les nouvelles passerelles de Anmu et de Phuktal, ils sont obligés de passer à Cha et de rejoindre Phuktal directement par un sentier qui a été amélioré. De plus, il n'y a pas de place pour les chevaux à Phuktal et je ne sais pas comment font les horsemen.
Yayta est un emplacement de camp avec une petite source d'une très bonne eau, mais à seulement 4h30 de Phuktal . Le problème est que le prochain bon emplacement (bon pour les hommes et pour les chevaux) se trouve près de Tantak soit 4h30 de plus.
Le camp suivant se trouve entre le Nyalo Kongtse La et le Gotunta La, à 3h30 de Tantak et à 6h de Yayta.
Avant d'attaquer les cols, un détour de 1h30, donc 3h aller-retour permet d'aller au bord du splendide lac de Tso Tok Phu.
Tout ça représente beaucoup de combinaisons possibles pour les étapes dans ce secteur.
Après le Gotunta La, on descend dans la vallée de Shun, inondée du 1er janvier au 5 mai 2016 par un grand lac dû à un glissement de terrain qui a complètement obstrué la vallée en aval de Marshun, et qui a craqué le 5 mai en détruisant tous les ponts existant jusqu'à Chiling. La passerelle de Marshun a été emportée, et on reste donc sur la rive droite de la Tsarap Chu.
C'est là qu'on va rencontrer la Zara Chu, qui pose parfois de gros problèmes pour sa traversée. L'été dernier, en 2016, elle se passait facilement car il avait très peu neigé l'hiver précédent et beaucoup de torrents étaient à sec. Personne ne peut prédire ce que sera l'hiver prochain !
Après ça, c'est une série de up & down le long de la Tsarap jusqu'à la route avec une étape à Satak et une autre à Tsometsik.
Faire Padum - route Manali-Leh en 7 jours est possible, mais il faut alors oublier le détour au Tso Tok Phu, et faire Yayta-NyaloKontseLa en une étape.
J'espère que tu auras les précisions de quelqu'un qui est allé se promener dans ces parages peu fréquentés.
A +, J.L.
Merci encore Jean Louis 😉
On va donc attendre que l' hiver soit passé .
Au fait on a déja fait la traversée classique Lamayuru / Padum en 2010 donc Lingshey et Zangla nous y avons déja passé un jour de repos .
Bonjour,
Des amis avaient réservé un trek de Padum à Kanji en passant par Dibling et Kanji La l'été dernier. Finalement ils ont du modifier l'itineraire et passer par Photoksar car il y avait encore un peu trop d'eau à Dibling. C'était début août.
Bonjour et Joyeux Noël .
Après avoir bien réfléchi, nous avons abandonné le passage par la Kanji la et pensons passer par Nieraq , connaissez vous cette partie ?
Pour la deuxième partie , si la Zahra chu est impossible à traverser nous passerons par l'itinéraire classique en faisant une boucle pour Phuktal .
Depuis Phuktal combien de temps est il nécessaire si nous voulons tout de même aller au lac Tok Phu en A/R ?
Merci d' avance et Bonnes Fêtes
Je ne vais pas t'aider beaucoup. Je ne suis jamais passé par Nyerak. Je sais qu'il y a trois cols à passer : Le Nyerak La, 5000 m; le 1er jour, le Pangat La, 3900 m, le 2ème jour, et le Numtse La, 4430 m, le 3ème jour avant d'arriver à Zangla.
De Zangla, une traversée sauvage (car pas de villages et rarement des trekkeurs) permet de rejoindre Shade en 5 jours, puis Phuktal en 1 jour avec un détour au Tso Tok Phu, le tout en 10 h environ.
Sinon, De Phuktal au Tso Tok Phu, il faut compter 8 h 30, et autant pour le retour. On ne peut pas faire l'aller-retour dans la journée. Je vais au Tso Tpk Phu en allant ou en revenant de Shade, un des villages les plus isolés du Zanskar.
J'espère que ces nouvelles ne vont pas gâcher ton réveillon !
Meilleurs voeux pour 2017.
Ne t' inquiete pas 😉 je vais trouver une solution , l'important est de marcher dans ces beaux paysages ( tant qu'on peut 🤪 .....)
J' ai bien lu tout tes renseignements , et quelques questions me viennent , encore 😏 :
- je ne sais jusqu'ou la route va :Dorzon ou plus loin ? serait il possible de rejoindre Phuktal dans la journée depuis Padum ?
-Tantak est un passage obligé apres Phuktal et Yayta pour rallier les villages de Yarshun et Satak ? ou bien seulement pour accéder au lac Tok phu en A/R ? avec mon vieux guide Olizane j' arrive pas a me rendre compte !
Bonne année 2017
La route dépasse Dorzong et arrivait en août dernier tout près de Enmu. Enmu-Phuktal se fait en 6h. Le problème est de partir assez tôt de Padum, car il y a au moins 3h de piste en voiture.
Après Phuktal, Yayta est une source avec emplacements de camp à 4h30 de Phuktal. Pour aller au Tso Tok Phu, on ne va pas jusqu'à Tantak. On remonte la Tsarap en rive droite jusqu'à son confluent avec la Niri Chu qui arrive de la gauche, et on remonte alors la Niri Chu en rive droite jusqu'à une passerelle qui permet de passer rive gauche. Peu de temps après (environ 3h après Yayta), on arrive devant un petit pont sur le ruisseau qui descend du Tso Tok Phu. On ne passe pas ce pont, et on remonte sur la droite jusqu'au lac (environ 1h15).
Au début, on suit le sentier qui conduit au Gotunta La puis à Marshun et Satak. Quand ce sentier attaque franchement la montée sur la droite, il faut le quitter et continuer plus ou moins dans le lit de la rivière, pas de sentier seulement quelques cairns de temps en temps jusqu'au lac, qu'on découvre au moment où l'on commence à avoir envie de faire demi-tour ! ! !
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