Trek du Sanctuaire des Annapurnas avec cette agence?
by UneFleur
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je suis en train de me renseigner pour faire le trek du Sanctuaire des Annapurnas en Octobre et j'ai un contact avec l'agence Adventure Glacier treks & Expedition (correspondant Dil), est-ce que des voyageurs sont déjà passés par cette agence et peuvent me donner leur avis et me conseiller ? Merci d'avance !!
Céline
Salut,
Mon avis ( ce n'est que le mien) est que pour un trek classique comme celui -ci où on prend ses repas et où on passe la nuit en lodge la meilleure agence et celle qui fait les tarifs les plus bas. Si c'était un trek plus technique et surtout en bivouac avec tente cuisiniers et matériel ça serait différent. Quelle que soit l'agence tu auras 1 guide ( un peu inutile car on ne peut pas se perdre!) et un porteur pour 2 personnes. Glacier safari trek est dans la moyenne ( pour les prix) mais on trouve moins cher: Nepal ecology trek et Napoléon trekking ( meilleure pour treks en bivouac)
Mon avis ( ce n'est que le mien) est que pour un trek classique comme celui -ci où on prend ses repas et où on passe la nuit en lodge la meilleure agence et celle qui fait les tarifs les plus bas. Si c'était un trek plus technique et surtout en bivouac avec tente cuisiniers et matériel ça serait différent. Quelle que soit l'agence tu auras 1 guide ( un peu inutile car on ne peut pas se perdre!) et un porteur pour 2 personnes. Glacier safari trek est dans la moyenne ( pour les prix) mais on trouve moins cher: Nepal ecology trek et Napoléon trekking ( meilleure pour treks en bivouac)
Un guide n'est pas là que pour t'ouvrir le chemin afin de ne pas te perdre... 😕
Il y a l'association Franco-Népalaise Shakti Nepal (www.shaktinepal.org) qui propose, pour récolter de fond pour leur école, d'organiser des treks. Je suis déjà parti à 2 reprises avec eux (Annapurna et Langtang)
Il y a l'association Franco-Népalaise Shakti Nepal (www.shaktinepal.org) qui propose, pour récolter de fond pour leur école, d'organiser des treks. Je suis déjà parti à 2 reprises avec eux (Annapurna et Langtang)
Je l'ai fait il y a quelques années (voir mon carnet de route ici) je t'encourage même à le faire sans guide. C'est un trek très simple et il n'y a pas de raisons de se perdre !
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Salut,
J'ai parcouru ton carnet de route et je dois dire que l'épisode de la douche est pour moi plus que consternant.Je n'arrive tout simplement pas à comprendre qu'on puisse en arriver là et s'en prendre au proprio pour un incident aussi insignifiant et pour lequel il n'est pas vraiment responsable! Oh c'est vrai il ne vous avait pas fourni de sandales pour aller à la douche!! Jamais lu un truc pareil, Je crois rêver!!
Et ce n’était pas fini, , lorsqu’elle a voulu récupérer ses affaires, elle a eu la mauvaise surprise de découvrir que le mauvais écoulement de l’eau et l’étroitesse de la « pièce » avaient permis à ses chaussures de bénéficier d’une bonne douche elles aussi, sans que Lara puisse s’en rendre compte à cause du noir dans lequel elle était plongée. La température ambiante n’aidant pas, lorsqu’elle a remis ses chaussures aux pieds, ses pieds se sont aussitôt retrouvés glacés. Une fois mis au courant de l’incident, je suis allé voir le propriétaire de la Guesthouse. Forcément inquiet pour Lara, à la santé fragile, et considérant que les conditions dans lesquelles elle avait pris sa douche était déplorable, je n’étais pas vraiment de bonne humeur lorsque je me suis retrouvé face à lui dans la cuisine de l’auberge. Je lui ai expliqué ce qui était arrivé à Lara, lui ai demandé des chaussures ou sandales de rechange pour Lara pour la soirée, et dit que l’on ne paierait pour cette douche sur un ton très ferme. Le type a alors dit, sur un ton peu agréable, que ce n’était pas sa faute, qu’il n’avait rien à faire et que je n’avais pas à lui dire ce qu’il devait faire. J’ai alors haussé le ton et ait dit que c’était sa faute et qu’il allait s’en occuper. Il s’est levé comme pour affirmer son autorité. J’ai approché ma tête de la sienne en le regardant droit dans les yeux pour affirmer mon autorité. Deux comportements masculins typiques et assez crétins il faut le reconnaitre.
Dommage que que tu n'aies pas connu le Népal 20 ou 30 ans plus tôt tu n'aurais pas eu ce problème car la douche n'existait pas et pas non plus d'Himalaya hotel.la douche ou plutôt le bain c'était le torrent. Les Népalais n'avaient pas encore affaire aux individus qui contribuent peu à peu à rendre à la région des Annapurnas son côté mercantile et "deshumanisé" qu'elle n'avait pas auparavant. Que tu puisses faire des reproches au proprio sur l'état de sa douche, que tu refuses de le payer quand on connait un tant soit peu la vie difficile de ces gens, et surtout que tu puisses raconter ça ici aussi ouvertement et sans complexe me laisse pantois.Quelle belle image du touriste Européen laissée aux Népalais!! Merci pour tous les autres qui passent derrière toi.
J'ai parcouru ton carnet de route et je dois dire que l'épisode de la douche est pour moi plus que consternant.Je n'arrive tout simplement pas à comprendre qu'on puisse en arriver là et s'en prendre au proprio pour un incident aussi insignifiant et pour lequel il n'est pas vraiment responsable! Oh c'est vrai il ne vous avait pas fourni de sandales pour aller à la douche!! Jamais lu un truc pareil, Je crois rêver!!
Et ce n’était pas fini, , lorsqu’elle a voulu récupérer ses affaires, elle a eu la mauvaise surprise de découvrir que le mauvais écoulement de l’eau et l’étroitesse de la « pièce » avaient permis à ses chaussures de bénéficier d’une bonne douche elles aussi, sans que Lara puisse s’en rendre compte à cause du noir dans lequel elle était plongée. La température ambiante n’aidant pas, lorsqu’elle a remis ses chaussures aux pieds, ses pieds se sont aussitôt retrouvés glacés. Une fois mis au courant de l’incident, je suis allé voir le propriétaire de la Guesthouse. Forcément inquiet pour Lara, à la santé fragile, et considérant que les conditions dans lesquelles elle avait pris sa douche était déplorable, je n’étais pas vraiment de bonne humeur lorsque je me suis retrouvé face à lui dans la cuisine de l’auberge. Je lui ai expliqué ce qui était arrivé à Lara, lui ai demandé des chaussures ou sandales de rechange pour Lara pour la soirée, et dit que l’on ne paierait pour cette douche sur un ton très ferme. Le type a alors dit, sur un ton peu agréable, que ce n’était pas sa faute, qu’il n’avait rien à faire et que je n’avais pas à lui dire ce qu’il devait faire. J’ai alors haussé le ton et ait dit que c’était sa faute et qu’il allait s’en occuper. Il s’est levé comme pour affirmer son autorité. J’ai approché ma tête de la sienne en le regardant droit dans les yeux pour affirmer mon autorité. Deux comportements masculins typiques et assez crétins il faut le reconnaitre.
Dommage que que tu n'aies pas connu le Népal 20 ou 30 ans plus tôt tu n'aurais pas eu ce problème car la douche n'existait pas et pas non plus d'Himalaya hotel.la douche ou plutôt le bain c'était le torrent. Les Népalais n'avaient pas encore affaire aux individus qui contribuent peu à peu à rendre à la région des Annapurnas son côté mercantile et "deshumanisé" qu'elle n'avait pas auparavant. Que tu puisses faire des reproches au proprio sur l'état de sa douche, que tu refuses de le payer quand on connait un tant soit peu la vie difficile de ces gens, et surtout que tu puisses raconter ça ici aussi ouvertement et sans complexe me laisse pantois.Quelle belle image du touriste Européen laissée aux Népalais!! Merci pour tous les autres qui passent derrière toi.
C'est un peu facile comme attaque non ? Déjà j'ai reconnu dans mon récit que je n'avais pas été des plus malins. J'étais jeune et aujourd'hui je gère mieux ce genre de situation. Mais dans cette situation l’attitude la plus grave était loin d'être la mienne et ton commentaire sonne donc vraiment ridicule...
Le lendemain je parlais de cette histoire avec un guide népalais qui m'expliquait que ce mec faisait souvent des histoires... Et personnellement, je ne suis pas du tout du genre à me retrouver dans des bagarres donc...
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J'ai la fâcheuse habitude de réagir disons instinctivement; j'ai rarement répondu si rapidement à un récit de voyage , faut dire que j'en lis très peu et c'est tombé sur toi .
Et en fait ce n'est pas tant ton comportement au Népal qui m'a interpelé et qui m'a d'emblée fait réagir car qui sait ou qui peut dire qu'il ne réagira pas de la même façon dans une circonstance similaire là où les éléments extérieurs ne sont pas ceux qu'on a l'habitude d'appréhender et puis quand on est fatigué, malade, de mauvaise humeur etc..
Non ce que j'ai du mal à comprendre c'est qu'à froid , loin de la situation vécue tu puisses nous raconter ça tranquillement dans ton carnet de voyage! si ce n'est pas irréfléchi alors c'est un acte de réelle franchise et bravo!
J'ai plutôt tendance à avoir du recul sur ce qui se passe et comme je te l'ai dit, avec une attitude plus intelligente, cela aurait pu être évité. Loin de moi non plus l'idée d'être négatif vis à vis des Népalais, j'ai rencontré plein de gens fabuleux durant ce voyage.
J'ai justement hésité à raconter cet épisode sur mon blog car je pense que cela ne donne pas une belle image de moi, mais j'ai préféré raconter la vérité. Merci pour ton retour, des réactions instinctives, on en a tous ;)
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I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann


