Trouvez-vous que les gens sont heureux lors de vos voyages?
by Mldiane57
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je regarde souvent les gens quand je suis en voyage ( meme en tout inclus).
Lors des tours de villes, lors des promenades en ville et aussi , je regarde des fois les gens qui travaillent sur les sites et je me dis :'' Ces gens m'ont l, air heureux. ''
Je dirais même plus que certaine personne ici que je vois avec leur maison bien remplis de bibelot, de meuble , la grosse télé , l'ensemble cinéma maison ect...
Me semble que nous, on court plus qu, eux après le temps , les amis ect.... On est plus stresser non?
Eux n'ont pas l'air jamais de souffrir de solitude.
Les gens âgés sont pris en charge par leur famille me semble.
Ils ont l'air d'avoir toujours une tonne d'amis.
Ils chantent beaucoup .
Moi je regarde à mn travail et les gens sont plus stresser qu, eux et chante moins.
Alors quel est votre opinion sur les gens que vous avez rencontrer .
Sont-ils heureux ?
Alors là, ça dépend où... Et quand.
Si on est dans le métro parisien à l'heure de la sortie des bureaux, ça donne pas vraiment une impression de bonheur. Mais à 9h du matin sur le marché couvert Raïatea (polynésie Française) ça va nettement mieux.
Normal non ?
Normal non ?
Merci pour ta réponse mais je voulais plus parler des pays que l'on dit pauvres surtout ;-)
Dans le fond, je me demande comment les gens voient la vie des gens dans ces pays.
Bonjour,
Je ne crois pas que l'on puisse ainsi generaliser et dire que les gens sont plus heureux dans les pays pauvres que dans les pays riches et mettre tout cela sur le compte de la "modernite" ou du "capitalisme". (Detrompes moi si je suis dans l'erreur mais c'est bien ce que tu sous entends n'est ce pas ?). Je pense surtout que dans les pays riches, on a beaucoup plus le temps de faire du nombrilisme. Eux n'ont pas ce luxe.
Je ne crois pas que l'on puisse ainsi generaliser et dire que les gens sont plus heureux dans les pays pauvres que dans les pays riches et mettre tout cela sur le compte de la "modernite" ou du "capitalisme". (Detrompes moi si je suis dans l'erreur mais c'est bien ce que tu sous entends n'est ce pas ?). Je pense surtout que dans les pays riches, on a beaucoup plus le temps de faire du nombrilisme. Eux n'ont pas ce luxe.
En ouvrant cette discussion tu touches du doigt un concept (philosophique ?) qu'il faudrait affiner un peu...
Qu'est-ce que le bonheur ?
D'une façon générale, l'herbe est toujours plus verte chez le voisin !
Surtout si toi tu as des carrences... Je veux dire si tu as l'impression qu'il sont moins solitaire, c'est peut être que toi tu te sens solitaire, si tu les sents moins stressés, c'est peut être que toi tu te sens stressée...
C'est le grand avantage des voyages (surtout comme tu les vis toi, en regardant les gens, c'est une bonne chose) ils t'aident à te découvrir toi et a mieux comprendre ce qu'il se passe dans ton propre pays.
Moi les voyages m'ont apris la nochalence (opposé du stresse, ne surtout pas confondre avec fénéantise), la solidarité, le calme et la sereinité en beaucoup de circonstances... Je continue a voyager, j'ai encore énormément aprendre.
Sympa ton thème, je n'avance rien hein, je propose des pistes...
Les voyages m'ont ruinés. Ils m'ont construits solidement.
J'ai été voyageur extremiste. Je prévois maintenant de m'installer dans la vie de voyageur sereinement et definitivement...
😉pour voir si ailleurs on l air plus heureux moins stresse, s ils ne savent pas se contenter d etre au lieu d avoir!je pense qu il faut voir ces pays en dehors des mois ou il y a des hordes de touristes!nous avons maintenant la chance de pouvoir partir hors saison!nous faisons l effort d apprendre le maximum leur langue!et tout est vraiment different!ils voient notre amour pour leur pays, notre envie de connaitre leur culture!comme nous ne sommes pas tres riches ils ne se sentent pas ou moins , je ne sais pas comment le formuler!!exemple a venise loin tres loin des sites touristiques vivent les venitiens qui ne vivent pas ou peu des touristes, dans des petits troquets ou nous etions les seuls etrangers au bout de quelques jours nous avons fait des rencontres inoubliables!cela a changer pour toujours notre regard sur l autre!claudy
claudy 63
Pour ma part à Cuba les gens sont pauvres, mais semble vivre le bonheur
fière d'eux, il ont aprit à se contenter de ce qu'ils ont.
en passant vous avez visiter trois hôtel que j'ai débarquer aussi,
MEXIQUE = Hotel Royal Decameron Puerto Vallarta SANTA LUCIA = Caracol hoteles et le PUERTO PLATA = Breezes Puerto Plata
fait plutôt concasse
Ron
en passant vous avez visiter trois hôtel que j'ai débarquer aussi,
MEXIQUE = Hotel Royal Decameron Puerto Vallarta SANTA LUCIA = Caracol hoteles et le PUERTO PLATA = Breezes Puerto Plata
fait plutôt concasse
Ron
😉 a cuba ils ont peut etre l air heureux car ils aiment les touriste!mais lorsqu on reste plus que huit jours , et qu il y a plein de coin en dehors des zones touristiques interdits aux touristes, mais on peut y etre heureux avec le budjet de sa retraite mon beau frere envisage d y rester!il a une copine la bas et il y reste plusieurs mois!c est pourquoi il nous raconte un peu l envers du decors
claudy 63
Oui je connais assez bien Cuba,
c'est interdit aux touristes parce que c'est de la politique internes,
Tú no es sensato ver lo que té no necesidad de ver
traduction: tu n'est pas sensé voir ce que ta pas besoin de voir
ils ont leur lot de problèmes, aussi je me sentirais pas très à l'aise la nuit à Camaguey
Ron
c'est interdit aux touristes parce que c'est de la politique internes,
Tú no es sensato ver lo que té no necesidad de ver
traduction: tu n'est pas sensé voir ce que ta pas besoin de voir
ils ont leur lot de problèmes, aussi je me sentirais pas très à l'aise la nuit à Camaguey
Ron
je n'ai pas assez voyagé pour me placer dans la comparaison
ce que je peux voir dans la vie ordinaire de notre france, ce sont des personnes à la triste mine, l'air préoccupé, affairé, pressées, peu aimables!
et lors de mes randos dans les pyrénées je ne vois que des mines réjouïes, des corps qui respirent, qui parlent, qui écoutent....
je ne pense pas qu'il sera supportable encore longtemps d'être ainsi étouffé ! vous avez-vu en Islande ???
Je crois que c'est le même problème partout dans les grandes villes
à Montréal c'est la même chose,
mais à la campagne les gens sont beaucoup plus heureux,
mais à la campagne les gens sont beaucoup plus heureux,
ces trois hotels, je les aie bien aimer .
Je compte y retourner .
Arretes de frequenter des hotels 4* et tu verras peut etre des gens un peu moins souriants ...
Mais tres certainement plus vrais et dont le sourire, si ils te l'accordent, ne sera pas commercial mais viendra du fond du coeur.
Je regarde souvent les gens quand je suis en voyage ( meme en tout inclus).
Surtout en tout inclu !!! quoi de plus representatif des locaux ??????????
Me semble que nous, on court plus qu, eux après le temps , les amis ect.... On est plus stresser non?
"Me semble a moi" que la moquette tu l'as bien fumee ... Stresse toi ??? nan ça y'en a pas etre possible ! pas apres la fumette !!!
Eux n'ont pas l'air jamais de souffrir de solitude. Les gens âgés sont pris en charge par leur famille me semble. Ils ont l'air d'avoir toujours une tonne d'amis. Ils chantent beaucoup . Moi je regarde à mn travail et les gens sont plus stresser qu, eux et chante moins.
Fichtre, t'avais utilise quoi pour nettoyer la moquette avant de la fumer ?????????? MDR 😏😏😏 Continues, je me tords les trippes de rire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Je regarde souvent les gens quand je suis en voyage ( meme en tout inclus).
Surtout en tout inclu !!! quoi de plus representatif des locaux ??????????
Me semble que nous, on court plus qu, eux après le temps , les amis ect.... On est plus stresser non?
"Me semble a moi" que la moquette tu l'as bien fumee ... Stresse toi ??? nan ça y'en a pas etre possible ! pas apres la fumette !!!
Eux n'ont pas l'air jamais de souffrir de solitude. Les gens âgés sont pris en charge par leur famille me semble. Ils ont l'air d'avoir toujours une tonne d'amis. Ils chantent beaucoup . Moi je regarde à mn travail et les gens sont plus stresser qu, eux et chante moins.
Fichtre, t'avais utilise quoi pour nettoyer la moquette avant de la fumer ?????????? MDR 😏😏😏 Continues, je me tords les trippes de rire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tout ce que je peux te recommander c'est de demander a google
Exemple :
http://www.aferry.fr/comarit-ferry-fr.htm
le PIB par habitant en venetie est superieur de 20% à celui de l'auvergne ,53,1% des familles ont un revenu annuel net après impot superieur à 30.000 E , 79,3% supérieur à 20.000E
😉lol tu es un gros comique!je connais tres bien les petits quartiers de venise ou les petites gens ne vivent pas du tourisme!de plus les prix des logements n arretant pas de flamber ils sont chasse de leur propre ville!et etant auvergnate dans une petite station de cure qui passe de trois mille ames en hiver a 60 000en pleine saison il y a encore beaucoup d hotellires , de restaurateurs, de docteurs etc!!!qui ont de quoi passe l hiver au soleil souvent au maroc!de source sur ma famille en fait partie!bien sur ceux qui ne sont pas lies au curistes , ils ont les meme revenus que partout ailleurs!!claudy
claudy 63
le commerce dans lequel figure l'hotellerie et la restauration c'est 20% des emplois dans la commune de venise et le gros de ces emplois se trouvent à mestre et ses centres commerciaux ; la majorité sont des emplois peu qualifiés occupés de plus en plus par des immigrés ( ça ne se voit pas au facies , car pour les contacts avec les clients on préfère les roumains , les albanais ou les ex yougoslaves)
les gens quittent venise parce qu'en vendant leur petit appartement humide avec leur voiture garée à 2km il vont s'acheter une villa sur la terre ferme où d'ailleurs souvent ils travaillent
😉coucou j habite a deux heures de paris et bien toutes les fermes du coin meme avec l eau au puit s achetent a des prix dingues par des parisiens qui envahissent le coin pendant la periode de la chasse!alors les locaux font plutot la gueule!nous avons eu la chance d acheter il y a trente ans dans ce bled !au depart notre maison ne valer rien maintenantnous allons pouvoir a la retraite acheter chez nous en auvergne sans probleme
claudy 63
Je comprends ce que tu veux dire...
C'est sûrement qu'en dépit des conditions matérielles plus précaires que chez nous ils sont intérieurement plus aptes au bonheur car vivent plus l'instant présent et se projettent moins dans l'avenir; ils sont aussi plus "instinctifs" plus "nature" que rationnels plus aptes aussi à faire la fête. et ont une mentalité plus "collective" qu'individuelle. ils ne sont pas gênés comme chez nous quand les voisins font du bruit.. ils n'ont pas besoin de prendre un rendez-vous pour voir leurs amis..Ils ne sont pas encore programmés pour être compétitifs à tout prix...Dans les pays du tiers monde on dénombre beaucoup moins de suicide que chez nous..Une perte d'emploi, un conjoint qui se fait la malle chez eux c'est pas si dramatique que ça..
merci, vous avez bien compris le sens de mon message 🙂
ouff!!!!
Merci mldiane57
Merci mldiane57
Je comprends ce que tu veux dire...
C'est sûrement qu'en dépit des conditions matérielles plus précaires que chez nous ils sont intérieurement plus aptes au bonheur car vivent plus l'instant présent et se projettent moins dans l'avenir; ils sont aussi plus "instinctifs" plus "nature" que rationnels plus aptes aussi à faire la fête. et ont une mentalité plus "collective" qu'individuelle. ils ne sont pas gênés comme chez nous quand les voisins font du bruit.. ils n'ont pas besoin de prendre un rendez-vous pour voir leurs amis..Ils ne sont pas encore programmés pour être compétitifs à tout prix...Dans les pays du tiers monde on dénombre beaucoup moins de suicide que chez nous..Une perte d'emploi, un conjoint qui se fait la malle chez eux c'est pas si dramatique que ça..
Qui sont ces "ils" qui parsèment ton message ?
Ton analyse, énumération de bons vieux clichés quand même, ne résiste pas une seconde à la lumière de la réalité... réelle. Tunisie, Égypte... Libye, Yémen... Il faut croire que leur aptitude au bonheur intérieur n'a pas été suffisante... à "ils" !
Qui sont ces "ils" qui parsèment ton message ?
Ton analyse, énumération de bons vieux clichés quand même, ne résiste pas une seconde à la lumière de la réalité... réelle. Tunisie, Égypte... Libye, Yémen... Il faut croire que leur aptitude au bonheur intérieur n'a pas été suffisante... à "ils" !
Ton analyse, énumération de bons vieux clichés quand même, ne résiste pas une seconde à la lumière de la réalité... réelle.
Tunisie, Égypte... Libye, Yémen... Il faut croire que leur aptitude au bonheur intérieur n'a pas été suffisante... à "ils" !
Ah je l'attendais celle là! non c'est jamais tout blanc ni tout noir! mais effectivement le sentiment de bonheur , à mon avis est conditionné à la fois par les influences extérieures ( richesse matérielle par exemple, jusqu'à une certaine limite) mais aussi par une attitude "intérieure" et globalement dans les sociétés occidentales la faculté de dialogue avec l"inconscient" est bien plus réduite que pour les sociétés du tiers monde d'où un sentiment de solitude et d'isolement plus important de même qu'une plus forte individualité due à une conscience rationnelle plus développée qui fait par exemple qu'on se débarasse de nos anciens pour les mettre en maison de retraite. ..
Maintenant les pays que tu me cites ( musulmans) ne sont pas, à mon avis les plus représentatifs pour ce qui est de la faculté de pouvoir laisser vivre leur instinctivité... c'est pas encore ça! Je pourrais te parler de l'Afrique noire( non musulmane) mais tu me trouverais des exemples de révoltes et de massacres pour expliquer que la population est globalement malheureuse!
Ah je l'attendais celle là! non c'est jamais tout blanc ni tout noir! mais effectivement le sentiment de bonheur , à mon avis est conditionné à la fois par les influences extérieures ( richesse matérielle par exemple, jusqu'à une certaine limite) mais aussi par une attitude "intérieure" et globalement dans les sociétés occidentales la faculté de dialogue avec l"inconscient" est bien plus réduite que pour les sociétés du tiers monde d'où un sentiment de solitude et d'isolement plus important de même qu'une plus forte individualité due à une conscience rationnelle plus développée qui fait par exemple qu'on se débarasse de nos anciens pour les mettre en maison de retraite. ..
Maintenant les pays que tu me cites ( musulmans) ne sont pas, à mon avis les plus représentatifs pour ce qui est de la faculté de pouvoir laisser vivre leur instinctivité... c'est pas encore ça! Je pourrais te parler de l'Afrique noire( non musulmane) mais tu me trouverais des exemples de révoltes et de massacres pour expliquer que la population est globalement malheureuse!
Je comprends ce que tu veux dire...
C'est sûrement qu'en dépit des conditions matérielles plus précaires que chez nous ils sont intérieurement plus aptes au bonheur car vivent plus l'instant présent et se projettent moins dans l'avenir; ils sont aussi plus "instinctifs" plus "nature" que rationnels plus aptes aussi à faire la fête. et ont une mentalité plus "collective" qu'individuelle. ils ne sont pas gênés comme chez nous quand les voisins font du bruit.. ils n'ont pas besoin de prendre un rendez-vous pour voir leurs amis..Ils ne sont pas encore programmés pour être compétitifs à tout prix...Dans les pays du tiers monde on dénombre beaucoup moins de suicide que chez nous..Une perte d'emploi, un conjoint qui se fait la malle chez eux c'est pas si dramatique que ça..
... ahhh ... ça fait du bien de croiser des gens qui comprennent ... 😇
... d'accord, mais ... " parler (ainsi, comme tu le fais sans le savoir) d'ethnomorphisme ne revient-il pas à se situer sur le terrain glissant du relativisme culturel ? Pourtant la description et l'analyse de divers systèmes d'idées et de valeurs n'entraînent pas nécessairement la reconnaissance de différences incommensurables. Inversement, nous ne sommes pas prisonniers de nos représentations du monde, au point de devoir nous rabattre sur une simple projection de nos valeurs en guise de comparaison. ( ... ) La comparaison, comme une activité réflexive sur le mode de penser notre rapport à ce qui est autre, conditionne à la fois notre compréhension de nous-mêmes et de notre altérité. Elle nous éclaire sur la signification profonde de nos pratiques et de nos idées. " **
... et toi, t'en penses quoi ? 😕
** Extrait de Paroles reçues - Du bon usage des sciences sociales (G. Berthoud & G. Busino) Librairie Droz (Genève - Paris)
... ahhh ... ça fait du bien de croiser des gens qui comprennent ... 😇
... d'accord, mais ... " parler (ainsi, comme tu le fais sans le savoir) d'ethnomorphisme ne revient-il pas à se situer sur le terrain glissant du relativisme culturel ? Pourtant la description et l'analyse de divers systèmes d'idées et de valeurs n'entraînent pas nécessairement la reconnaissance de différences incommensurables. Inversement, nous ne sommes pas prisonniers de nos représentations du monde, au point de devoir nous rabattre sur une simple projection de nos valeurs en guise de comparaison. ( ... ) La comparaison, comme une activité réflexive sur le mode de penser notre rapport à ce qui est autre, conditionne à la fois notre compréhension de nous-mêmes et de notre altérité. Elle nous éclaire sur la signification profonde de nos pratiques et de nos idées. " **
... et toi, t'en penses quoi ? 😕
** Extrait de Paroles reçues - Du bon usage des sciences sociales (G. Berthoud & G. Busino) Librairie Droz (Genève - Paris)
Tu as de réels talents de caméléon, toi...
Tu adaptes ta réponse au niveau de capacité de compréhension que tu supposes chez ton interlocuteur... (ce n'est pas un reproche)...
Ta première intervention dans cette discussion (mess 23) a été au niveau de la question initiale : "Trouvez-vous que les gens sont heureux lors de vos voyages?"
Ta deuxième intervention (mess 27) est plus dans la lignée de ce message, superbement contourné jusqu'ici : "En ouvrant cette discussion tu touches du doigt un concept (philosophique ?) qu'il faudrait affiner un peu... Qu'est-ce que le bonheur ?"
... nous sommes en quelque sorte à la croisée des chemins : dans quelle direction poursuivre cette discussion, quelle hauteur lui donner pour qu'elle ait un sens, une cohérence ?...
Ta première intervention dans cette discussion (mess 23) a été au niveau de la question initiale : "Trouvez-vous que les gens sont heureux lors de vos voyages?"
Ta deuxième intervention (mess 27) est plus dans la lignée de ce message, superbement contourné jusqu'ici : "En ouvrant cette discussion tu touches du doigt un concept (philosophique ?) qu'il faudrait affiner un peu... Qu'est-ce que le bonheur ?"
... nous sommes en quelque sorte à la croisée des chemins : dans quelle direction poursuivre cette discussion, quelle hauteur lui donner pour qu'elle ait un sens, une cohérence ?...
Tu adaptes ta réponse au niveau de capacité de compréhension que tu supposes chez ton interlocuteur... (ce n'est pas un reproche)...
Ben oui, mais ça me semble logique...je réponds à une personne en essayant d'utiliser son vocabulaire..et, pour répondre à son interrogation, à savoir si on partage son idée qu'on est plus heureux sous les tropiques...Ma réponse (schématique certes) en plus d'une tentative d'explication de son ressenti lorsqu'elle est loin de chez elle sous les tropiques , cherche aussi à tempérer les réponses bien négatives et un peu agressives qui lui ont été faites...
Ta deuxième intervention (mess 27) est plus dans la lignée de ce message, superbement contourné jusqu'ici : "En ouvrant cette discussion tu touches du doigt un concept (philosophique ?) qu'il faudrait affiner un peu... Qu'est-ce que le bonheur ?"
Egalement ici je réponds à une autre personne ( à toi) en essayant d'y intégrer ta précédente question sur le bonheur..et en utilisant un vocabulaire qui devrait t'être ( je pense) accessible tout en sachant bien que ma réponse n'est qu'une ébauche du problème..et, qu'à mon avis, une définition du bonheur n'y ajouterait pas grand chose..pour la simple raison qu'on ne peut se mettre à la place de quelqu'un pour affirmer qu'il est ou qu'il n'est pas heureux.. c'est bien là le fond du problème non? et par conséquent, rien que pour cela, il est vain de vouloir chercher à comparer la notion de bonheur dans les pays occidentaux et dans le "tiers monde" tout au plus pouvons nous essayer de comparer nos modes de fonctionnement . bref je ne vois pas où tu veux en venir...
Ben oui, mais ça me semble logique...je réponds à une personne en essayant d'utiliser son vocabulaire..et, pour répondre à son interrogation, à savoir si on partage son idée qu'on est plus heureux sous les tropiques...Ma réponse (schématique certes) en plus d'une tentative d'explication de son ressenti lorsqu'elle est loin de chez elle sous les tropiques , cherche aussi à tempérer les réponses bien négatives et un peu agressives qui lui ont été faites...
Ta deuxième intervention (mess 27) est plus dans la lignée de ce message, superbement contourné jusqu'ici : "En ouvrant cette discussion tu touches du doigt un concept (philosophique ?) qu'il faudrait affiner un peu... Qu'est-ce que le bonheur ?"
Egalement ici je réponds à une autre personne ( à toi) en essayant d'y intégrer ta précédente question sur le bonheur..et en utilisant un vocabulaire qui devrait t'être ( je pense) accessible tout en sachant bien que ma réponse n'est qu'une ébauche du problème..et, qu'à mon avis, une définition du bonheur n'y ajouterait pas grand chose..pour la simple raison qu'on ne peut se mettre à la place de quelqu'un pour affirmer qu'il est ou qu'il n'est pas heureux.. c'est bien là le fond du problème non? et par conséquent, rien que pour cela, il est vain de vouloir chercher à comparer la notion de bonheur dans les pays occidentaux et dans le "tiers monde" tout au plus pouvons nous essayer de comparer nos modes de fonctionnement . bref je ne vois pas où tu veux en venir...
😉kola prends ton tapis de yoga et fais une petite seance!!de toute facon ceux qui appellent voyager aller dans un grand hotel me font bien rigoler!chez moi dans les grands hotels ce sont des portugaises qui font les chambres!je ne me voit pas envisager leur demander si elles sont heureuses!sans doute plus que celles qui poitent au chomage!claudy
claudy 63
... pourrais-tu nous expliquer par quel processus intellectuel (' pas trouvé d'autre mot !😕) saugrenu tu parviens à faire le lien entre ce que tu nous racontes là et le reste de la discussion ? 🤪
... et en quoi la fréquentation de grands hôtels en cours de voyage serait de nature plus comique que l'utilisation d'un camping-car ? 😄
... il y a vraiment des jours où on se surprend à regretter l'arrogance décomplexée des puissants ! 😕
... et en quoi la fréquentation de grands hôtels en cours de voyage serait de nature plus comique que l'utilisation d'un camping-car ? 😄
... il y a vraiment des jours où on se surprend à regretter l'arrogance décomplexée des puissants ! 😕
kola prends ton tapis de yoga et fais une petite seance!!de toute facon ceux qui appellent voyager aller dans un grand hotel me font bien rigoler!chez moi dans les grands hotels ce sont des portugaises qui font les chambres!je ne me voit pas envisager leur demander si elles sont heureuses!sans doute plus que celles qui poitent au chomage!claudy
Si tu pouvais indiquer à quel point précis et auquel de mes messages tu réponds... ça me permettrait peut-être de te répondre sur le fond...
Quant à ta manière de "personnaliser" ton propos (cf : la première phrase de ton message), hum... 😕
Si tu pouvais indiquer à quel point précis et auquel de mes messages tu réponds... ça me permettrait peut-être de te répondre sur le fond...
Quant à ta manière de "personnaliser" ton propos (cf : la première phrase de ton message), hum... 😕
Qu'elle est belle ta photo Jalma ! et elle illustre bien le propos de cette discussion !
😉je trouvais votre idee sur l ethnomorphisme un peu trop pointue pour le commun des voyageurs du site:ps ma fille finie ses etudes de psycho elle a fait de l ethnomorphisme en fin cela va la faire bien rire ce petit echange!pour ma part ayant fait de l archeologie preventive;on ne peux jamais savoirsi les locaux sont tous heureux meme lorsqu ils affichent un g rand sourire!claudy qui malgres tout veut faire le tour du monde et qui j espere rencontrera le plus de gens possibles, et le moins malheureux possibles;sinon je resterai chez moi!claudy
claudy 63
pour ma part ayant fait de l archeologie preventive
Pour mon info personnelle: ça consiste en quoi?
Ps: l'auteur du terme "'ethnomorphisme "ne me semble pas être kola...
Pour mon info personnelle: ça consiste en quoi?
Ps: l'auteur du terme "'ethnomorphisme "ne me semble pas être kola...
😉ta raison c est pas lui!l archeologie preventive !j ai fait ca apres l histoire de l art specialiser civilisations autour du bassin mediterraneen;je devais faire l etat et l etude des sites non inscrits au patrimoine et surtout meconnus du grand public et trop souvent pilles ou tout betement laisses a l abandon!ex une fois je me suis retrouve en plein milieu du portugal sur un site wisigoth vieux de trois mille ans splendide sans aucunes protections les jeunes du villages y faisait leurs fetes villageoises, mariages ou autre, ne parlant pas assez de portugais je me suis sentie bien seule avec mon appareil photo!depis avant chaque voyage j achete des livres de cours de langue et des guides de conversation pour etre au plus proches des gents que j essaie de rencontrer et de respecter le plus possible leur coutumes claudy qui ne veux blesser personne juste apporter mon petit grain de sel a la discution
claudy 63
bref je ne vois pas où tu veux en venir...
Et bien lorsque je lis les messages rédigés à la suite de notre échange qui tentait d'être un peu constructif... je ne sais plus moi-même ! (... faudrait d'abord ramasser la porcelaine brisée avant de poursuivre, non ? 😕... )
Et bien lorsque je lis les messages rédigés à la suite de notre échange qui tentait d'être un peu constructif... je ne sais plus moi-même ! (... faudrait d'abord ramasser la porcelaine brisée avant de poursuivre, non ? 😕... )
Salut,
Merci! Mais est-ce qu'ils sont heureux? En tous cas ils en donnent l'impression, non?...
La tienne aussi est jolie..ambiance un peu mystique.
Merci! Mais est-ce qu'ils sont heureux? En tous cas ils en donnent l'impression, non?...
La tienne aussi est jolie..ambiance un peu mystique.
Heureux (avec un grand H) ou juste heureux ?
Heureux c'est la quête de toute une vie ou même de milliers de vies c'est selon.......
ou juste heureux....pour un moment, un jour....et le lendemain ça change, comme le ciel...un jour tout bleu, le lendemain nuageux !!!
pour ta photo...merci à ces gens que tu as su rencontrer de nous rappeler à l'essentiel....loin de tous nos grands discours "philosophiques"!
Difficile d'imaginer un bonheur sans période relative de malheur c'est comme la lumière sans l'ombre...
"Plus profondément le chagrin creusera votre être, plus vous pourrez contenir de joie." Khalil Gibran
Je suis dans le thème, non? 😉
Je suis dans le thème, non? 😉
"On voyage pour changer, non de lieu, mais d'idées." Hippolyte Taine
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Plus profondément le chagrin creusera votre être, plus vous pourrez contenir de joie." Khalil Gibran
Je suis dans le thème, non?
Ah oui... et aussi: Le bonheur repose sur le malheur et le malheur couve sous le bonheur ( lao tseu) mais...celle là j'aime bien: le bonheur est une petite chose que l'on grignote assis par terre au soleil...( Giraudoux)
Je suis dans le thème, non?
Ah oui... et aussi: Le bonheur repose sur le malheur et le malheur couve sous le bonheur ( lao tseu) mais...celle là j'aime bien: le bonheur est une petite chose que l'on grignote assis par terre au soleil...( Giraudoux)
Ah je l'attendais celle là! non c'est jamais tout blanc ni tout noir! mais effectivement le sentiment de bonheur , à mon avis est conditionné à la fois par les influences extérieures ( richesse matérielle par exemple, jusqu'à une certaine limite) mais aussi par une attitude "intérieure" et globalement dans les sociétés occidentales la faculté de dialogue avec l"inconscient" est bien plus réduite que pour les sociétés du tiers monde d'où un sentiment de solitude et d'isolement plus important de même qu'une plus forte individualité due à une conscience rationnelle plus développée qui fait par exemple qu'on se débarasse de nos anciens pour les mettre en maison de retraite. ..
Maintenant les pays que tu me cites ( musulmans) ne sont pas, à mon avis les plus représentatifs pour ce qui est de la faculté de pouvoir laisser vivre leur instinctivité... c'est pas encore ça! Je pourrais te parler de l'Afrique noire( non musulmane) mais tu me trouverais des exemples de révoltes et de massacres pour expliquer que la population est globalement malheureuse!
Déjà faut pas confondre souriant et accueillant avec heureux ... oui en Afrique noire les gens sont souriants, accueillants (ton opposition musulman/catho est grotesque, je connais pas de pays plus accueillant et plein de joie de vivre apparente que le Mali ... pourtant musulman ... bref ... quant à l'instinctivité oui oui bien sur). Oui les gens sont moins seuls qu'en Occident, ont moins l'air de se prendre la tête ...
Mais tout ça cache souvent un désespoir et une misère très grande ... il faut pour cela creuser et discuter un peu ... une bonne majorité souhaite émigrer quitte à prendre tous les risques, la solidarité certes bien réelle cache aussi souvent un ras le bol devant cette obligation sociale de partage ... obliger de donner à tonton machin qu'on ne peut pas blairer, obliger d'inviter tata truc qui est une vraie ....
Bref, c'est bien plus compliqué que ça en l'air lorsque l'on voyage un peu superficiellement (ce qui n'est pas une critique, on est là aussi pour prendre du bon temps), le concept de dépression existe peu ... mais est pourtant bien réel ... ce qui est par contre vrai, c'est que les suicides sont bien plus nombreux en occident que dans les pays en développement ... peut être que c'est culturel, peut être que le fait de devoir se battre tous les jours pour ramener 5 euros prend du temps et occupe l'esprit ... je ne sais pas
Maintenant les pays que tu me cites ( musulmans) ne sont pas, à mon avis les plus représentatifs pour ce qui est de la faculté de pouvoir laisser vivre leur instinctivité... c'est pas encore ça! Je pourrais te parler de l'Afrique noire( non musulmane) mais tu me trouverais des exemples de révoltes et de massacres pour expliquer que la population est globalement malheureuse!
Déjà faut pas confondre souriant et accueillant avec heureux ... oui en Afrique noire les gens sont souriants, accueillants (ton opposition musulman/catho est grotesque, je connais pas de pays plus accueillant et plein de joie de vivre apparente que le Mali ... pourtant musulman ... bref ... quant à l'instinctivité oui oui bien sur). Oui les gens sont moins seuls qu'en Occident, ont moins l'air de se prendre la tête ...
Mais tout ça cache souvent un désespoir et une misère très grande ... il faut pour cela creuser et discuter un peu ... une bonne majorité souhaite émigrer quitte à prendre tous les risques, la solidarité certes bien réelle cache aussi souvent un ras le bol devant cette obligation sociale de partage ... obliger de donner à tonton machin qu'on ne peut pas blairer, obliger d'inviter tata truc qui est une vraie ....
Bref, c'est bien plus compliqué que ça en l'air lorsque l'on voyage un peu superficiellement (ce qui n'est pas une critique, on est là aussi pour prendre du bon temps), le concept de dépression existe peu ... mais est pourtant bien réel ... ce qui est par contre vrai, c'est que les suicides sont bien plus nombreux en occident que dans les pays en développement ... peut être que c'est culturel, peut être que le fait de devoir se battre tous les jours pour ramener 5 euros prend du temps et occupe l'esprit ... je ne sais pas
"J'adore le travail, je passerais des heures à le regarder"
Déjà faut pas confondre souriant et accueillant avec heureux ...
Tout à fait d'accord et ça reste valable pour tout un chacun dans n'importe quelle contrée; comme je l'ai dit d'ailleurs que ce soit un sentiment de bonheur ou de simple bien-être nul ne peut se mettre à la place d'un autre pour dire ce qu'il ressent..
ton opposition musulman/catho est grotesque,
D'abord je ne voulais pas opposer cathos et musulmans mais plutot gens du tiers monde en général qu'ils soient chrétiens bouddhistes hindous ou animistes ou un mélange de ces religions et musulmans en général...l'exemple je te l'accorde n'est pas bien choisi pour l'Afrique sud Saharienne...L'influence de l'Islam n'est (à mon avis )pas la même suivant les pays. Le Mali j'y suis allé et on sait s'amuser et faire la fête l'Islam n'y est pas aussi contraignant qu'en Arabie saoudite..
Mais tout ça cache souvent un désespoir et une misère très grande ... il faut pour cela creuser et discuter un peu ... une bonne majorité souhaite émigrer quitte à prendre tous les risques, la solidarité certes bien réelle cache aussi souvent un ras le bol devant cette obligation sociale de partage ... obliger de donner à tonton machin qu'on ne peut pas blairer, obliger d'inviter tata truc qui est une vraie ....
Tout à fait d'accord aussi sur ce sujet de même qu'il existe des gens en France qui voudraient faire leur vie ailleurs au soleil ils ne sont certes pas motivés par les mêmes raisons ( matérielles) mais leur démarche relevant du fantasme est à peu près identique. Pour ce qui concerne l'aspect solidarité, vie plus où moins communautaire, plus "collective" que dans nos contrées, effectivement ça se paie par une liberté individuelle plus restreinte, liberté qui à mon avis était moins revendiqué il y a quelques décennies...La "conscience individuelle" se développe aussi en Afrique..
Bref, c'est bien plus compliqué que ça en l'air lorsque l'on voyage un peu superficiellement (ce qui n'est pas une critique, on est là aussi pour prendre du bon temps), le concept de dépression existe peu ... mais est pourtant bien réel ... ce qui est par contre vrai, c'est que les suicides sont bien plus nombreux en occident que dans les pays en développement ... peut être que c'est culturel, peut être que le fait de devoir se battre tous les jours pour ramener 5 euros prend du temps et occupe l'esprit ... je ne sais pas
La dépression en tant que maladie avec tous ses symptômes n'est pas très répandue dans les pays du tiers monde et j'attribue ( ce n'est que mon avis) ce phénomène au développement moins important de la conscience individuelle par opposition à ce quej'appelle "l'inconscient" réservoir interne du psychisme où l'on puise nos ressources et qui est une aide pour faire face aux évènements extérieurs.. ça peut paraitre confus mais pour l'illustrer mon propos je prendrais comme exemple la chanson de Nougaro: "Amstrong" : Armstrong, je ne suis pas noir Je suis blanc de peau Quand on veut chanter l'espoir Quel manque de pot Oui, j'ai beau voir le ciel, l'oiseau Rien rien rien ne luit là-haut Les anges... zéro Je suis blanc de peau En ajoutant : Le " la-haut" c'est l"inconscient"... en langage psychologique
Bref pour résumer on peut dire sans trop se tromper que dans les pays du tiers monde les gens sont plus souriants plus communicatifs, plus aptes à s'amuser à faire la fête sans pour autant pouvoir prétendre qu'ils sont réellement plus heureux.
Tout à fait d'accord et ça reste valable pour tout un chacun dans n'importe quelle contrée; comme je l'ai dit d'ailleurs que ce soit un sentiment de bonheur ou de simple bien-être nul ne peut se mettre à la place d'un autre pour dire ce qu'il ressent..
ton opposition musulman/catho est grotesque,
D'abord je ne voulais pas opposer cathos et musulmans mais plutot gens du tiers monde en général qu'ils soient chrétiens bouddhistes hindous ou animistes ou un mélange de ces religions et musulmans en général...l'exemple je te l'accorde n'est pas bien choisi pour l'Afrique sud Saharienne...L'influence de l'Islam n'est (à mon avis )pas la même suivant les pays. Le Mali j'y suis allé et on sait s'amuser et faire la fête l'Islam n'y est pas aussi contraignant qu'en Arabie saoudite..
Mais tout ça cache souvent un désespoir et une misère très grande ... il faut pour cela creuser et discuter un peu ... une bonne majorité souhaite émigrer quitte à prendre tous les risques, la solidarité certes bien réelle cache aussi souvent un ras le bol devant cette obligation sociale de partage ... obliger de donner à tonton machin qu'on ne peut pas blairer, obliger d'inviter tata truc qui est une vraie ....
Tout à fait d'accord aussi sur ce sujet de même qu'il existe des gens en France qui voudraient faire leur vie ailleurs au soleil ils ne sont certes pas motivés par les mêmes raisons ( matérielles) mais leur démarche relevant du fantasme est à peu près identique. Pour ce qui concerne l'aspect solidarité, vie plus où moins communautaire, plus "collective" que dans nos contrées, effectivement ça se paie par une liberté individuelle plus restreinte, liberté qui à mon avis était moins revendiqué il y a quelques décennies...La "conscience individuelle" se développe aussi en Afrique..
Bref, c'est bien plus compliqué que ça en l'air lorsque l'on voyage un peu superficiellement (ce qui n'est pas une critique, on est là aussi pour prendre du bon temps), le concept de dépression existe peu ... mais est pourtant bien réel ... ce qui est par contre vrai, c'est que les suicides sont bien plus nombreux en occident que dans les pays en développement ... peut être que c'est culturel, peut être que le fait de devoir se battre tous les jours pour ramener 5 euros prend du temps et occupe l'esprit ... je ne sais pas
La dépression en tant que maladie avec tous ses symptômes n'est pas très répandue dans les pays du tiers monde et j'attribue ( ce n'est que mon avis) ce phénomène au développement moins important de la conscience individuelle par opposition à ce quej'appelle "l'inconscient" réservoir interne du psychisme où l'on puise nos ressources et qui est une aide pour faire face aux évènements extérieurs.. ça peut paraitre confus mais pour l'illustrer mon propos je prendrais comme exemple la chanson de Nougaro: "Amstrong" : Armstrong, je ne suis pas noir Je suis blanc de peau Quand on veut chanter l'espoir Quel manque de pot Oui, j'ai beau voir le ciel, l'oiseau Rien rien rien ne luit là-haut Les anges... zéro Je suis blanc de peau En ajoutant : Le " la-haut" c'est l"inconscient"... en langage psychologique
Bref pour résumer on peut dire sans trop se tromper que dans les pays du tiers monde les gens sont plus souriants plus communicatifs, plus aptes à s'amuser à faire la fête sans pour autant pouvoir prétendre qu'ils sont réellement plus heureux.
Une remarque: j'avais dit qu'ils ( les gens du tiers monde) semblaient plus "aptes"au bonheur sans affirmer qu'ils étaient plus heureux..
Pour le "problème" du "monde musulman" je devrais peut-être revoir ma copie..
Une remarque: j'avais dit qu'ils ( les gens du tiers monde) semblaient plus "aptes"au bonheur sans affirmer qu'ils étaient plus heureux..
Pour le "problème" du "monde musulman" je devrais peut-être revoir ma copie..
Le truc c'est qu'il n'existe pas de "monde musulman", la "culture" est bien souvent beaucoup plus proche entre deux voisins de religion différente (exemple un burkinabé musulman avec un togolais chrétien) qu'entre deux co-religieux séparés par 10000 km (exemple un philippin musulman avec un mauritanien musulman)... en tous cas c'est mon avis
D'autre part la perception que nous avons des gens du tiers monde (quel tiers monde ?) n'est elle pas fatalement altérée par ce que nous représentons pour eux à savoir je pense (pas partout, pas tout le temps on est d'accord) une sorte de réussite à laquelle ils aimeraient accéder ... un "pauvre" d'un pays pauvre voyageant dans un autre pays pauvre perçoit il la même joie de vivre que "nous", est il aussi bien accueilli ?
Le truc c'est qu'il n'existe pas de "monde musulman", la "culture" est bien souvent beaucoup plus proche entre deux voisins de religion différente (exemple un burkinabé musulman avec un togolais chrétien) qu'entre deux co-religieux séparés par 10000 km (exemple un philippin musulman avec un mauritanien musulman)... en tous cas c'est mon avis
D'autre part la perception que nous avons des gens du tiers monde (quel tiers monde ?) n'est elle pas fatalement altérée par ce que nous représentons pour eux à savoir je pense (pas partout, pas tout le temps on est d'accord) une sorte de réussite à laquelle ils aimeraient accéder ... un "pauvre" d'un pays pauvre voyageant dans un autre pays pauvre perçoit il la même joie de vivre que "nous", est il aussi bien accueilli ?
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"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
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Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
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Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
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Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
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(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?
A few years ago, I went with a group of friends to lend a hand at a small rural school near Thiès, Senegal.
It was a relaxed but hardworking atmosphere—hands in the mortar, laughter, exchanges, and everything that a COOPERATION project can bring.
Today, the little project is flying on its own.
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?