Visa Chine/Col irkhestam
by Cilou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Pour aller en chine par le col d'irkhestam est-il préférable de faire son visa en france, a bishkek ou peut-on le faire sur place (il me semblait avoir vu la réponse quelquepart mais je ne la trouve plus .merci
vu l endroit, il faut un visa avant d arriver a la frontiere. A faire a Bishkek (si il y a une ambassade ? cf. forum LonelyPlanet), ou encore mieux avant de partir...
Raphael
Photos Yemen, Asie Centrale, Patagonie, Inde... : http://photog-raph.site.voila.fr/
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Hello
Est ce que tu as des écho de voyageur (crédible) qui sont passer par ce col ? et que les démarches sont vraiment simplifier (plus d"agence ni de personnes qui t'attende) ???
Philo
Est ce que tu as des écho de voyageur (crédible) qui sont passer par ce col ? et que les démarches sont vraiment simplifier (plus d"agence ni de personnes qui t'attende) ???
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
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Hello Philobate,
decidemment tu t interesses a ce col... comme dit il y a un post dédié a ces cols sur thorntree !!
j aurai des infos de premiere main d ici 1 ou 2 mois en allant verifier sur place 😉
Mais effectivement, pas besoibn de passer par une agence : ily *aurait* un bus hebdomadaire a 50 USD, mais personne ne l a pris (annule pendant epidemie de SRAS) ; sinon, taxi ou stop (changer a la frontiere), ca revient pas trop cher, mais certaines personnes non averties ont mis plusieurs jours a traverser (horaires a la con opur les pauses repas, se renseigner avant de passer !! La route est parfois en mauvais etat si il a plut (j ai vu des photos...).
decidemment tu t interesses a ce col... comme dit il y a un post dédié a ces cols sur thorntree !!
j aurai des infos de premiere main d ici 1 ou 2 mois en allant verifier sur place 😉
Mais effectivement, pas besoibn de passer par une agence : ily *aurait* un bus hebdomadaire a 50 USD, mais personne ne l a pris (annule pendant epidemie de SRAS) ; sinon, taxi ou stop (changer a la frontiere), ca revient pas trop cher, mais certaines personnes non averties ont mis plusieurs jours a traverser (horaires a la con opur les pauses repas, se renseigner avant de passer !! La route est parfois en mauvais etat si il a plut (j ai vu des photos...).
Raphael
Photos Yemen, Asie Centrale, Patagonie, Inde... : http://photog-raph.site.voila.fr/
Photos "1 an en Chine" : http://raphb.dotphoto.com
Photos "1 an en Chine" : http://raphb.dotphoto.com
Bas c'est a dire que j'ai pas trop le choix je suis un peut obliger de passer par la ...
J'attand t'est nouvelles fraiches par ce que sur les forum tous lemonde peut dire n'importe quoi, et je prefert avoir des infos de personnes qui donnent des infos régulière et vérifiables...
Pour le Lp sa reste qu'un guide et au niveau de cette p******de frontière les infos d'un guide ne me suffisent pas .... trop aléatoire (quoi que je sent que sa restera aléatoir ..)
Aufaite c'est quoi cet infosur le SRAS il n'as pas du tous toucher la région ...
Philo
J'attand t'est nouvelles fraiches par ce que sur les forum tous lemonde peut dire n'importe quoi, et je prefert avoir des infos de personnes qui donnent des infos régulière et vérifiables...
Pour le Lp sa reste qu'un guide et au niveau de cette p******de frontière les infos d'un guide ne me suffisent pas .... trop aléatoire (quoi que je sent que sa restera aléatoir ..)
Aufaite c'est quoi cet infosur le SRAS il n'as pas du tous toucher la région ...
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Pour aller en chine par le col d'irkhestam est-il préférable de faire son visa en france, a bishkek ou peut-on le faire sur place
Deux conseils pour le prix d'un : Si tu ne sais pas où dormir à Bishkek, une adresse : la "South Guesthouse Bishkek" ( c'est un type qui a transformé son appart HLM en dortoir pour backpackers ). C'est 3 $ la nuit ( tu peux te servir de la cuisine mais on ne sert pas de repas ) Dans la salle à manger il y a un gros cahier avec les tuyaux des voyageurs qui sont passés par là ( visas, passage des frontières d'Asie Centrale etc ) J' y ai rencontré un Français le mois dernier qui a fait faire son visa chinois par une agence situé avenue Jibek Jolu je crois. L'adresse exacte de l'agence et tous les renseignements sur le visa sont inscrit dans ce cahier.
Le site de la SGH est un peu "funky". Essaye ces liens, si tu as un message d'erreur, fait "Précédente", puis "Suivante" avec ton navigateur ( I.Explorer )
http://www.geocities.com/south_gh/1.htm http://www.geocities.com/south_gh/2.htm http://www.geocities.com/south_gh/3.htm http://www.geocities.com/south_gh/4.htm http://www.geocities.com/south_gh/6.htm
Pour se rendre à la guesthouse, suivre les indications sur le site. Y aller en transport en commun plutôt qu'en taxi ou alors s'arrêter avant et faire un peu de marche à pied. La guesthouse n'est pas déclarée et Nanchan ne tient pas trop à ce qu'on lui fasse de la publicité ( en dehors du milieu "routard" )
Elle est pas belle la vie ? Merci Askar
“I'm sure tourists would leave Somalia alive and I'm hopeful they wouldn't be kidnapped. At least, we would try to make sure they were not kidnapped, although it can happen.”
Somalia's minister of tourism Abdi Jimale Osman.
Sur le site de la guesthouse :
1 ) clique sur un des liens ci-dessus. ( Normalement une nouvelle fenêtre s'ouvre, un message d'erreur apparait, tu cliques OK, et tu obtiens une page blanche - tu ne peux pas faire "Précédente ou "Suivante" puisque c'est une nouvelle page ) donc >
2) modifie l'URL dans la barre d'adresse. Par exemple, replace "1" par "2" dans http://www.geocities.com/south_gh/1.htm. Clique "OK" ou tape "Entrée" : - Non, encore une page blanche !!
3) Pas grave, clique sur "Précédente" et normalement ça devrait marcher.
“I'm sure tourists would leave Somalia alive and I'm hopeful they wouldn't be kidnapped. At least, we would try to make sure they were not kidnapped, although it can happen.”
Somalia's minister of tourism Abdi Jimale Osman.
😠 C'est le bordel ce forum je trouve pas le post ...,
j'ai beaux faire une recherche sur Irkestam pass je me retrouve avec des messages sur les USA 🤪
M'enfou que sa soit un voyageur, une voyageuse une aventurière, un mouton un cheval, mais je veut des infos fiable et vérifiable par ce que si tu te retrouve au pied de la passe et que tu peut pas passé tu as l'aire un peut c**
Si je me souvient bien Bullfr, tu passe par les deux c'est sa (l'autre étant Tal....), pour la Irkestam pass tu vas faire comment et pour Tag...., tu vas faire comment ?
Philo
j'ai beaux faire une recherche sur Irkestam pass je me retrouve avec des messages sur les USA 🤪
M'enfou que sa soit un voyageur, une voyageuse une aventurière, un mouton un cheval, mais je veut des infos fiable et vérifiable par ce que si tu te retrouve au pied de la passe et que tu peut pas passé tu as l'aire un peut c**
Si je me souvient bien Bullfr, tu passe par les deux c'est sa (l'autre étant Tal....), pour la Irkestam pass tu vas faire comment et pour Tag...., tu vas faire comment ?
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
“I'm sure tourists would leave Somalia alive and I'm hopeful they wouldn't be kidnapped. At least, we would try to make sure they were not kidnapped, although it can happen.”
Somalia's minister of tourism Abdi Jimale Osman.
Ds le LP, il y a 3 pages dediees au passage du col de Torugart... et a mon avis ils y sont passes !!
Apres renseignement aupres des agences, tout depend de ou tu pars et de combien de personnes constituent le groupe : il faut environ 100 Euros par personne pour un groupe de 3 a partir de Naryn (cotes KG et Chine). Possibilite de stop à TashRabat. Il faut en general arranger le passage a peu pres 1 semaine a l avance. Certaines agences te demandent des infos pour des permis, d autres disent qu il n en faut pas...
Je pense qu on avisera sur place : qusnd on sera a Karakol, si on voit que les agences font trop chier pour Torugart, on ira nous meme a TashRabat (caravanserail ds la monmtagne pres de la frontiere), et apres on prendra la route Naryn-Kazarman-JalalAbad, afin de passer en Chine aller-retour par Irkeshtam en taxi/stop. encore 1 semaine avant le depart, j arrive plus a bosser...
Apres renseignement aupres des agences, tout depend de ou tu pars et de combien de personnes constituent le groupe : il faut environ 100 Euros par personne pour un groupe de 3 a partir de Naryn (cotes KG et Chine). Possibilite de stop à TashRabat. Il faut en general arranger le passage a peu pres 1 semaine a l avance. Certaines agences te demandent des infos pour des permis, d autres disent qu il n en faut pas...
Je pense qu on avisera sur place : qusnd on sera a Karakol, si on voit que les agences font trop chier pour Torugart, on ira nous meme a TashRabat (caravanserail ds la monmtagne pres de la frontiere), et apres on prendra la route Naryn-Kazarman-JalalAbad, afin de passer en Chine aller-retour par Irkeshtam en taxi/stop. encore 1 semaine avant le depart, j arrive plus a bosser...
Raphael
Photos Yemen, Asie Centrale, Patagonie, Inde... : http://photog-raph.site.voila.fr/
Photos "1 an en Chine" : http://raphb.dotphoto.com
Photos "1 an en Chine" : http://raphb.dotphoto.com
Ha non sa pour la Torugart, je sait bien qu'ils y sont passer, y'as pas de soucit la dessus c'est sur l'autre ou je me pose des questions ...
Ha savoir qu'elle est la réalité entre ce que eux disent et ce que des voyageurs ont vue et vecus ...
Je suis aller voir le message, la ok c'est enfin plus la galère (j'attand ton témoignage bullfr !!!) Vous partez a combien ?
Philo
Ha savoir qu'elle est la réalité entre ce que eux disent et ce que des voyageurs ont vue et vecus ...
Je suis aller voir le message, la ok c'est enfin plus la galère (j'attand ton témoignage bullfr !!!) Vous partez a combien ?
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
ok, de toute facon je ferai un p tit post avec les details, ou peut etre carrement un site avec des photos... on verra si j ai le temps !!
On part à 2 pour 8 semaines, et un 3eme larron sera avec nous le 1er mois(de Bishkek a Kashgar, apres y se debrouillera pour repasser la frontiere)
On part à 2 pour 8 semaines, et un 3eme larron sera avec nous le 1er mois(de Bishkek a Kashgar, apres y se debrouillera pour repasser la frontiere)
Raphael
Photos Yemen, Asie Centrale, Patagonie, Inde... : http://photog-raph.site.voila.fr/
Photos "1 an en Chine" : http://raphb.dotphoto.com
Photos "1 an en Chine" : http://raphb.dotphoto.com
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Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.