Tout d'abord je me présente rapidos. Je m'appelle Benoît et je fais actuellement un tour du monde avec ma femme. Nous voyageons en auto-stop la plupart du temps et en avion au minimum. Nous avons quitté la France il y a trois mois et maintenant nous sommes en Inde. Vous pouvez retrouver toutes nos aventures sur www.lesvoyageursfous.com ou sur notre blog www.lesvoyageursfous.over-blog.com.
Nous allons ensuite au Népal début Mars. Nous comptons y passer environ un mois puis aller en Chine, et donc traverser le Tibet. Malheureusement le Tibet fait partie intégrante de la Chine donc pour y rentrer il faut un visa chinois mais en plus il faut passer par une agence de voyage. Nous avions abandonné l'idée avant de commencer notre tour du monde mais deux autres Français nous ont convaincus par leur expérience d'y aller:
http://tourdumonde2010.free.fr/...dm/?p=3015#more-3015
Si je ne me trompe pas, le moyen le plus facile pour réaliser cette partie de notre voyage est de demander le visa chinois directement à l'ambassade à Katmandou. Puis nous devrons trouver tous pleins de copains pour constituer un groupe et réduire les frais de l'agence de voyage.
Je cite l'ambassade de Chine en Inde:
"It is advised that foreigners wishing to visit Tibet may go to other parts of China or Chinese Embassy in Nepal first, and then join a package tour after certain procedures of approval."
ou l'ambassade de Chine au Népal:
"Please apply to the Tibet Tourism Bureau (TTB) through travel agencies for travel permit, and then apply for Group Visa to enter Tibet with the Notification of Visa Application issued by TTB"
1) Est ce que je raconte n'importe quoi? Certains me critiqueront peut être et m'orienteront à lire les précédents messages à ce sujet mais je l'ai déjà fait et ce n'est pas facile de trouver un message récent avec les mêmes conditions de voyage. Par ailleurs je vous marque ce que j'ai compris de tout ce que j'ai lu et demander aux ambassades. Si je n'ai pas fait d'erreurs tant mieux.
2) Avez-vous déjà vécu récemment la même expérience et dans les mêmes conditions. (du Népal à la Chine, sans véhicule personnel) Avez-vous bien aimé? Combien avez-vous dépensé au total au Tibet?
3) Est ce qu'il y aurait des personnes intéressées pour constituer un groupe dans trois mois environ? (je m'y prend à l'avance donc même si vous pourriez l'être mais que vous n'êtes pas sûr on peut échanger nos coordonnées et voir le moment voulu si nos dates coïncident)
4) Connaissez-vous des agences de voyage à Katmandou avec un bon rapport qualité/prix? Comment puis-je les contacter?
Si je ne me trompe pas, le moyen le plus facile pour réaliser cette partie de notre voyage est de demander le visa chinois directement à l'ambassade à Katmandou. Puis nous devrons trouver tous pleins de copains pour constituer un groupe et réduire les frais de l'agence de voyage.
on n'arrete pas de répeter que pour aller au tibet, il faut passer par une agence qui obtiendra un visa de groupe et pour pouvoir continuer en chine (hors tibet) il faut faire transformer sur place le visa groupe en visa individuel
Je ne crois pas que l'on soit obligé de passer par une agence pour obtenir le visa.
D'ailleurs j'ai contacté une agence de voyage et elle m'a répondu:
"Foreigners who plan to travel in Tibet must get the Tibet travel permit and directed by a travel agency. All kinds of people can get Tibet permit through a travel agency except diplomats, journalists, and government officials who should travel to Tibet under the arrangement of the Foreign Affairs Office of Tibet Government. I need copies of your passports and Chinese visas to apply for the permit. Since you are coming from Kathmandu, I will provide the necessary invitation letter so that you can apply for your China visa in Nepal."
Sinon je me rappelle avoir lu un message concernant le visa de groupe mais je pensais que c'était n'importe quoi car sur mon formulaire de demande de visa je ne vois marquer nulle part visa individuelle ou de groupe et je n'en ai d'ailleurs jamais entendu parler pour aucun de mes précédents visas (ou je ne m'en rappelle pas).
Qu'est ce que ça signifie exactement? Après tout je voyage avec ma femme donc nous sommes un groupe donc avons-nous quand même besoin de le transformer par la suite en individuel?
Où peut-on le transformer exactement? En sortant du Tibet ou au Tibet.
Je suis à Katmandou en ce moment et je suis en train de faire le nécessaire pour partir dans 10 jours à Lhassa.
Tout d'abord il faut vraiment passer par une agence et le visa + autorisation Tibet demande 7 jours ( Délai spécial pour les Français. )
Ensuite les groupes sont constitués quasiment chaque semaine donc pas besoin de chercher.
Après recherche j'ai trouvé l'une des agences qui est à la base des départs, c'est à dire que cela évite les intermédiaires. Donc si tu veux je te donne son adresse en courrier privé pour pas que l'on pense que c'est de la pub cachée.
Tout d'abord il faut vraiment passer par une agence et le visa + autorisation Tibet demande 7 jours ( Délai spécial pour les Français. )
J'étais arrivé un dimanche, j'ai donné les passeports en arrivant, je les ai récupéré le lendemain soir et suis parti le surlendemain.
Mais c'était il y a trois ans, ça a pu effectivement changé depuis.
Tout d'abord il faut vraiment passer par une agence et le visa + autorisation Tibet demande 7 jours ( Délai spécial pour les Français. )
J'étais arrivé un dimanche, j'ai donné les passeports en arrivant, je les ai récupéré le lendemain soir et suis parti le surlendemain.
Mais c'était il y a trois ans, ça a pu effectivement changé depuis.
Oui cela a changé il ya quelque mois en raison de la position de la France sur le Tibet et les droits de l'homme en Chine. La chine en représailles a durcit sa position à l'encontre des Français qui souhaitent se rendre au Tibet.
Mais la loi Chinoise sur l'immigration doit changer en Mars, donc à suivre.
Je ne crois pas que l'on soit obligé de passer par une agence pour obtenir le visa.
Si, depuis Katmandou, c'est obligatoire, tu auras un visa de groupe + le permis (un groupe peut être composé d'une seule personne mais dans ce cas, tu paies seul la jeep + le guide qui sont indispensables). Sinon, tu peux faire faire un visa chinois à Katmandou, prendre un vol KTM - Chengdu puis organiser un trip au Tibet depuis Chengdu. L'avantage, c'est que depuis Chengdu, tu peux tenter d'y aller sans le permis et tout le toutim.
Bonjour,
Je pars au Népal en février prochain. J'ai l'intention d aller au Tibet . Ton adresse d'agence à KTM m'intéresse !!! Quel prix est raisonnable selon toi ? Visa, permis, transport ? Merci d'avance
Xialin
Je commence à m'informer sur les possibiltés d'entrer au Tibet pour avril ou mai 2013. J'ai lu ton message qui date un peu ! mais bon ! pourrais-tu me donner le nom et l'adresse de cette agence dont tu parles, s'il te plaît ? Comment s'est passé ton voyage au Tibet ? Dans quelle zone as tu été ?
Merci d'avance. Carole.
L'impulsion du voyage est l'un des plus encourageants symptômes de la vie.
les conditions d entrees au tibet varient d annees en annees!
Les messages de 2011 ne te seront d aucunes utulites pour 2013...
en 2011, les conditions d entres via le nepal s etaient deja considerablement durcies, en 2012 (EN CE MOMENT QUOI) c est tres tres rigide en raison notemment des tensions au kham et des futurs changemebts politiques en vue a pekin pour octobre (changement de president, du secretaire general du parti et election d un nouveau soviet supreme)
il ya per ex l obligation de constituer un groupe de 5 personnse du meme pays, la suspension de la delivrence des permis pour les expats etc...
en 2013 une fois la tension passee, on suppose que toutes ces mesures tomberont et que la situation reviendra a ce qu elle etait avant les JO...mais encore une fois il est impossible de prevoir.
meme les agences sont incapables de faire des plans d une semaine sur l autre tant la legislation change rapidement...
le meilleur conseil est de te renseigner lorsque tu sera a katmandu et de prevoir un plan b...par ex prendre l avion jusqu a HK d ou tu pourras continuer sans problemes
Bonjour et merci, mais je ne comprends pas l'intérêt d'aller à Hong-kong pour obtenir un visa tibétain ou former un groupe ?
J'aimerai avoir des adresses d'agences de trekking à Katmandou, pour anticiper les treks, même si je sais bien que sur place tout peut changer d'un jour à l'autre, c'est ça aussi le voyage et heureusement !
Merci d'avance. Carole.
L'impulsion du voyage est l'un des plus encourageants symptômes de la vie.
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I’m heading to Laos next spring, but I have a question about the Thai arrival/departure form. I’ll be flying PAR-BKK, then taking the train to Laos (so exiting Thailand), and later re-entering Thailand by train to catch my return flight. Do I need to fill out two forms in this case?
Hi there,
I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
Can I get a TPD (Temporary Admission Document)?
Will I need a KBis extract or a power of attorney?!?
Thanks for your help.
Worst case, I can add my personal name as a co-owner on the registration, but that would be a real shame!
Hi,
I’m bringing Seresta, an anxiolytic (tranquilizer) from the benzodiazepine family,
to help me sleep.
I’ll have the prescription with me.
Will this be a problem at customs, and do I need to declare it?
Same question for antibiotics?
Thanks a bunch!
Hi,
I’m writing to ask for some info—I’ve heard that you **must** have travel insurance to land in Zanzibar.
What’s the process, and which insurance should I get?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Seb
Hi there,
I’m a French citizen living in Switzerland, and I set up an RV LLC in Montana, USA. Through that, I was able to register 3 vehicles (an RV, a Jeep, and a Harley) with Montana plates.
I’d like to spend 3 months in Mexico, but it seems complicated—maybe even impossible—to cross the border from the US with all 3 vehicles.
Can anyone give me some advice?
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April.
My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date.
Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast!
Cheers,
Bruno.
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident.
I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia.
For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France?
Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
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There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted.
Is this real or just a hoax?
Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient?
Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
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On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
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I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
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Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
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I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
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Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival?
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Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
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Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
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From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
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Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
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I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay.
If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand,
do I need to submit a new TDAC application?
Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
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My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window.
The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days.
2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date.
If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period.
In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th.
The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
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hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
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