Voyage en train en Italie
by Cladoyon
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour, j'ai un questionnement... nous irons en Italie en mai prochain, pour 3 semaines nous louons des appartements avec le site homelidays. Nous arriverons à Rome pour 3 nuits. et par la suite passerons une semaine au sud de la toscane. à Sarteano. Nous pensions à louer une voiture pour la Toscane. par la suite direction Luca( car nous n'aimons pas habiter les grandes villes mais irons à partir de Luca visiter Florence et les alentours. Aurons nous besoin de la voiture ou bien on peux facilement voyager en train pour de petite distances? nous voulons pas la suite passer 3 à 4 jours au Cinq terre. et direction Venise 3 nuits pour le retour à Montréal. On ne sait pas encore dans quelle ville ont ira entre cinq terre et venise.
si vous avec suggestion n'hésitez pas mais la question première est si nous devons louer une voiture pour tous le voyage ou seulement en toscane. merci et au plaisir de vous lire
et par la suite passerons une semaine au sud de la toscane. à Sarteano. Nous pensions à louer une voiture pour la Toscane. par la suite direction Luca( car nous n'aimons pas habiter les grandes villes mais irons à partir de Luca visiter Florence et les alentours. Aurons nous besoin de la voiture ou bien on peux facilement voyager en train pour de petite distances?
Bonsoir, J'ai un peu de peine à suivre le déroulement de votre itinéraire, allez vous à Lucca et Florence pendant votre semaine à Sarteano ou après ?, le tout étant en Toscane.
Si vous restez une semaine à Sarteano, je pense qu'une voiture est indispensable , mais où allez vous la prendre?
Ensuite si vous voulez aller de Lucca à Florence, le train me parait plus simple, vous n'aurez pas de problème de stationnement. Mais je n'ai peut être pas bien compris votre planning.
Bonsoir, J'ai un peu de peine à suivre le déroulement de votre itinéraire, allez vous à Lucca et Florence pendant votre semaine à Sarteano ou après ?, le tout étant en Toscane.
Si vous restez une semaine à Sarteano, je pense qu'une voiture est indispensable , mais où allez vous la prendre?
Ensuite si vous voulez aller de Lucca à Florence, le train me parait plus simple, vous n'aurez pas de problème de stationnement. Mais je n'ai peut être pas bien compris votre planning.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
et par la suite passerons une semaine au sud de la toscane. à Sarteano. Nous pensions à louer une voiture pour la Toscane. par la suite direction Luca( car nous n'aimons pas habiter les grandes villes mais irons à partir de Luca visiter Florence et les alentours. Aurons nous besoin de la voiture ou bien on peux facilement voyager en train pour de petite distances?
Bonsoir, J'ai un peu de peine à suivre le déroulement de votre itinéraire, allez vous à Lucca et Florence pendant votre semaine à Sarteano ou après ?, le tout étant en Toscane.
Si vous restez une semaine à Sarteano, je pense qu'une voiture est indispensable , mais où allez vous la prendre?
Ensuite si vous voulez aller de Lucca à Florence, le train me parait plus simple, vous n'aurez pas de problème de stationnement. Mais je n'ai peut être pas bien compris votre planning.
Bonsoir, J'ai un peu de peine à suivre le déroulement de votre itinéraire, allez vous à Lucca et Florence pendant votre semaine à Sarteano ou après ?, le tout étant en Toscane.
Si vous restez une semaine à Sarteano, je pense qu'une voiture est indispensable , mais où allez vous la prendre?
Ensuite si vous voulez aller de Lucca à Florence, le train me parait plus simple, vous n'aurez pas de problème de stationnement. Mais je n'ai peut être pas bien compris votre planning.
merci de bien vouloir m'aider. En fait nous arriverons à Rome et resterons 3 nuits. visite à pied. Location de la voiture après nos 3 nuits. (n veux trouver une location un peu à l'extérieur de la grande ville pour éviter le stress de la circulation.)pour nous rendre à Sarteano. et rester 7 nuits, garder la voiture pour les visites alentours. Par la suite nous pensions , soit prendre le train ou garder la voiture pour Luca? notre itinéraire n'est pas encore précisé, après ces 10 jours. On aimerais voir les Cinq terre et Venise pour boucler notre voyage, mais entre cinq terre et Venise on ne sait pas encore.
Oui, je crois que votre idée est bonne. Pour savourer la campagne toscane une voiture est indispensable. Après le problème est où rendre votre voiture. Il faut voir quels sont les frais si vous la rendez dans une ville différente. S'il n'y a pas trop de frais, pourquoi ne pas la rendre à Lucca effectivement. Ensuite visite de Florence par le train. Entre les Cinque Terre et Venise, le problème est le choix!!!Tout dépend du temps dont vous disposez, et de comment vous comptez vous déplacer. à nouveau voiture ou train? Personnellement sur cet itinéraire mes préférences iraient à un arrêt à Bergame ou à Vérone, voire Bologne.( les 3!! si vous avez le temps) De nouveau c'est très personnel, je n'aime pas Milan, je trouve que c'est une ville quelconque où il y a certes des monuments remarquables mais la ville manque d'unité et de charme.mais je sais que cette ville a aussi ses défenseurs. De gustibus non disputandum....
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
merci de bien vouloir m'aider. En fait nous arriverons à Rome et resterons 3 nuits. visite à pied. Location de la voiture après nos 3 nuits. (n veux trouver une location un peu à l'extérieur de la grande ville pour éviter le stress de la circulation.)pour nous rendre à Sarteano. et rester 7 nuits, garder la voiture pour les visites alentours. Par la suite nous pensions , soit prendre le train ou garder la voiture pour Luca? notre itinéraire n'est pas encore précisé, après ces 10 jours. On aimerais voir les Cinq terre et Venise pour boucler notre voyage, mais entre cinq terre et Venise on ne sait pas encore.
Plusieurs remarques :
à voir comment équilibrer les jours entre Rome et Sarteano, peut-être 5 jours à chaque lieu, pour avoir un peu plus de temps à Rome, ça dépend de vos goûts et si la location à Sarteano est obligatoirement pour 7 jours...
on pourrait prendre un train direct Rome-Chiusi; à Chiusi, il y a au moins Hertz et Europcar apparemment pour louer une voiture.
garder la voiture pour visiter la Toscane depuis Sarteano; depuis Sarteano, il n'y a pas un bus toutes les 15 min qui va à Chiusi...
on peut ensuite rendre la voiture à Chiusi et y reprendre le train pour aller à Lucca (changement de train à Florence); on peut aller à Lucca en voiture, mais choisir de préférence un hôtel avec parking juste en dehors de la muraille.
on peut aller en train de Lucca à La Spezia (Cinqueterre), en changeant à Pise ou à Viareggio
on peut aller en train de Lucca à Venise, en changeant à Florence où il vaut la peine de séjourner au moins 2-3 jours...
on peut faire la plupart de ces trajets en trains régionaux en achetant les billets sur place aux distributeurs, pour le train Florence-Venise, c'est un train rapide, il serait mieux d'acheter le billet assez rapidement pour avoir un meilleur prix, par exemple déjà à la gare de Rome en arrivant
si vous arrivez à Rome et rentrez en avion depuis Venise, il faut vérifier en cas de location de voiture, le coût supplémentaire pour frais d'abandon (drop off), si voiture prise à Rome ou à Chiusi et rendue à Venise, ça peut vite chiffrer...
Plusieurs remarques :
à voir comment équilibrer les jours entre Rome et Sarteano, peut-être 5 jours à chaque lieu, pour avoir un peu plus de temps à Rome, ça dépend de vos goûts et si la location à Sarteano est obligatoirement pour 7 jours...
on pourrait prendre un train direct Rome-Chiusi; à Chiusi, il y a au moins Hertz et Europcar apparemment pour louer une voiture.
garder la voiture pour visiter la Toscane depuis Sarteano; depuis Sarteano, il n'y a pas un bus toutes les 15 min qui va à Chiusi...
on peut ensuite rendre la voiture à Chiusi et y reprendre le train pour aller à Lucca (changement de train à Florence); on peut aller à Lucca en voiture, mais choisir de préférence un hôtel avec parking juste en dehors de la muraille.
on peut aller en train de Lucca à La Spezia (Cinqueterre), en changeant à Pise ou à Viareggio
on peut aller en train de Lucca à Venise, en changeant à Florence où il vaut la peine de séjourner au moins 2-3 jours...
on peut faire la plupart de ces trajets en trains régionaux en achetant les billets sur place aux distributeurs, pour le train Florence-Venise, c'est un train rapide, il serait mieux d'acheter le billet assez rapidement pour avoir un meilleur prix, par exemple déjà à la gare de Rome en arrivant
si vous arrivez à Rome et rentrez en avion depuis Venise, il faut vérifier en cas de location de voiture, le coût supplémentaire pour frais d'abandon (drop off), si voiture prise à Rome ou à Chiusi et rendue à Venise, ça peut vite chiffrer...
Mathilde
merci, j'avais justement regardé Bergame qui semble une ville très charmante. mais on train vous pensez que c'est possible ?
Bonjour, oui bien sûr que c'est possible. Je ne sais pas si vous êtes familière de l'Europe, mais le train est un moyen de transport beaucoup plus développé ici qu'en Amérique du Nord. Vous pouvez aller sur le site de www. trenitalia.com et faire des simulations. Si l'italien est un problème, il y a une version anglaise. Quand vous faites une simulation faites attention d'être sur "altri treni" et non "le frecce", car le frecce" c'est le TGV et il ne dessert pas toutes les gares.
Bonjour, oui bien sûr que c'est possible. Je ne sais pas si vous êtes familière de l'Europe, mais le train est un moyen de transport beaucoup plus développé ici qu'en Amérique du Nord. Vous pouvez aller sur le site de www. trenitalia.com et faire des simulations. Si l'italien est un problème, il y a une version anglaise. Quand vous faites une simulation faites attention d'être sur "altri treni" et non "le frecce", car le frecce" c'est le TGV et il ne dessert pas toutes les gares.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
1/ si vous passez 7 jours à sarteano , vous pouvez très bien aller à florence à partir de là ( une heure d'autoroute )
2/ je ne sais pas comment vous définissez une grande ville , mais lucca est une agglomération de 150.000 habitants qui appartient à la grande conurbation qui va de florence à la spezia en passant par pise et livourne et qui compte plus de 2 millions d'habitants
3/ 3-4 jours dans les 5 terres , à moins que vous ayez un but sportif ( faire des randonnées ) , ça me parait long ( et disproportionné avec seulement 3 jours à rome ) ; les villages des 5 terres , quand vous en avez vu un vous les avez tous vus , et le plus beau des 5 terre c'est le panorama vu de la route , ce que vous ne pouvez faire sans voiture
4/ faire un détour par bergame pour aller des 5 terres à venise ne me parait pas justifié , il y a entre les 2 en faisant à peu près la route directe des villes bien plus intéressantes comme bologne , padoue , ferrare , mantoue
5/ quant à comparer milan et bergame ça n'a aucun sens , un seul quartier intéressants de milan ( entre autres : quartier du duomo , quartier de brera , quartier des navigli , les 2 plus beaux quartiers futuristes , plusieurs quartiers d'architecture liberty , monza , ) est bien plus intéressant et plus grand à lui seul que la ville haute de bergame , la seule partie présentant un intérêt touristique
Un détail, c'est marqué "Tutti i treni" en fait.
Pour Bergamo, il faut l'envisager après Florence. Le train fait Florence-Milan et un autre train fait Milan-Bergamo.
Ensuite, trains Bergamo-Brescia et Brescia-Venise.
A Bergamo, le train arrive dans la partie nouvelle de la ville, on peut monter à pied une grande rue (sûrement en bus aussi) pour aller y prendre un funiculaire pour monter ensuite à Bergamo Alto, la vieille ville, qui est la partie la plus intéressante à visiter.
Pour Bergamo, il faut l'envisager après Florence. Le train fait Florence-Milan et un autre train fait Milan-Bergamo.
Ensuite, trains Bergamo-Brescia et Brescia-Venise.
A Bergamo, le train arrive dans la partie nouvelle de la ville, on peut monter à pied une grande rue (sûrement en bus aussi) pour aller y prendre un funiculaire pour monter ensuite à Bergamo Alto, la vieille ville, qui est la partie la plus intéressante à visiter.
Mathilde
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Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)





