Voyage et excursions au Kenya
by ST
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'ai réservé des vacances pour 2 semaines fin Aout au Kenya en balnéaire et j'aurai bien aimé avoir quelques informations pour m'aider à mieux prévoir mon voyages.
Me conseillez vous de prendre des excursions sur place via mon hotel, de les reserver avant mon depart oubien de les prendre aupres d'un beach boy (apparemment moin cher). Si j'opte pour cette derniere solution n'est-ce pas dangeureux (je veux dire par la que j'ai lu des choses qui m'ont un peu fait peur sur le Kenya et j'ai maintenant le sentiments que c'est un pays ou on y est pas du tous en securité).
Et enfin, concernant le via : vaut-il mieux le prendre avant de partir ou à l'aeroport ?
Sandrine.
Les parcs et réserves et les lieux d'excursions accueillent peu de restaurants et hôtels et tous les touristes s’y retrouvent pour se restaurer ou se reposer. Ils se retrouvent aussi sur les lieux des animaux car les guides et chauffeurs les connaissent et se les communiquent par radio, quels que soit l’organisateur de safari. Concernant ces beach boys, essaye de te procurer le maximum d’informations (prix, prestations, …) et décide toi sur place après avoir vu les uns et les autres.
Après avoir utilisé les services de l'agence locale de nouvelles frontières, je sollicite les beach boys (toujours liés à une société) qui sont moins chers d'environ 30 % et en général fiables (c'est leur intérêt).
Sinon, on peut se faire racketter partout ailleurs dans le monde, y compris en France.
Il suffit d'être prudent, comme on doit l'être partout ailleurs (pas d'argent ou bijoux en évidence) et gentiment de dire aux Kenyans qui vous "escortent" que l'on veut tranquillement se balader ou se baigner.
Pour les achats, les Kenyans, quand on n'a pas d'argent sur soi, proposent de vous accompagner jusqu'à la porte de l'hôtel pour se faire payer ou encore attendent le lendemain voire plus.
Oui, je vois. Je suis allée au Senegal il y a 4 ans et c'etait un peu pareil... de toutes façons je verrai bien. C'est sure, c'est un pays d'afrique assez pauvre et pour eux j'imagine qu'on représente tout ce qu'ils n'ont pas.
Qu'entends-tu par les Beach-boys liés à une société ?
Sandrine.
oui, en général ils travaillent pour des agences qui proposent des excursions mais, certains peuvent en proposer parallèlement à ces agences (ceux qui disposent eux même d'un véhicule qui peut transporter des touristes, c'est à dire une petite minorité tout de même, compte tenu du prix inabordable d'un véhicule pour la plupart d'entre eux)
ah, OK. C'est toujours bon à savoir. En fait, il y a une sorte de marché parallele qui est toléré.
Merci pour l'info. De ttes façons vu les prix partiqués pour les excursions à partir de la France je vais attendre de voir ça sur place... 😎 et à moi les vacances... excuse moi, je m'y vois déja...😊
Sandrine.
😠Attention aux beach boys!!!
ils ont tendance à vendre des trucs qui ne tiennent pas la route. Nous avions pris une excursion sur un bateau avec eux. C'était totalement bidon, pas cher, mais ridicule la prestation et l'embarquement à la limite du dangereux. Voilà. Je crois qu'il vaut mieux prendre des excursions avant et marchander le prix c'est possible.
Akuna matata.
emmasch
emmasch
Ok, merci.
C'est sure, il y a aucune garantie. Nous verrons bien sur place. En fait, je trouvais 2 jours de safaris trop cher. C'est pour cette raison que je m'informais sur les eventuelles agences locales qui pouvaient proposer des excursions un peu moins cher que celles des agences de voyages (comme NF aupres de laquelle j'ai réservé mon sejour). Mais si nous avons le moindre doute nous passerons par eux quitte à ne faire qu'une journée de parc (ça sera mieux que rien). Mais ce qui ce passe c'est que les agences de voyages traitent elles-memes avec des agences locales qui sont généralement moins cheres lorsqu'on traite en direct avec eux. C'est plutot ce genre de bons tuyaux que je cherche. Mais je ne me fais pas de soucis, nous restons 2 semaines et la permiere semaine sera consacrée à de la plongée sous marine donc on aura un peu le temps de prospecter et de ce renseigner aupres des clients de l'hotels sur ce qui vaut le coup ou non.
Sandrine.
Bonjour,
Nous avons "fait" le Kenya avec NF, circuit en tente et bivouac.
Les prix peuvent paraitre élévés, mais il faut comparer ce qui est comparable.
Par exemple, notre guide était excellent. Bon français, très bonne connaissance de son pays: histoire, économie, politique, faune et flore et géologie. Nous avons apris plein de choses aussi sur les coutumes kényanes.
En ayant écouté des expériences vécus par d'autres touristes, les "safaris" proposés sous le manteau comporte une grande part de risques, notament sur les connaissances acquises pendant les excursions et sur la rapidité.
Par exemple, nous avons pas hésité à rester longtemp avec un clan de lions, et plus tard avec une famille de guépard.
Certains touristes ont fait massai Mara au pas de course sans avoir apris grand choses.
Alors à toi de voir, si l'économie sur le prix vaut le risque de faire des "économies" sur la prestation.
Sur ce forum, tu trouveras des adresses d'agences locales qui ont une bonne apréciation.
je ne travaille pas pour NF ....juré😉
Bon voyage Akuna matata Thierry
Nous avons "fait" le Kenya avec NF, circuit en tente et bivouac.
Les prix peuvent paraitre élévés, mais il faut comparer ce qui est comparable.
Par exemple, notre guide était excellent. Bon français, très bonne connaissance de son pays: histoire, économie, politique, faune et flore et géologie. Nous avons apris plein de choses aussi sur les coutumes kényanes.
En ayant écouté des expériences vécus par d'autres touristes, les "safaris" proposés sous le manteau comporte une grande part de risques, notament sur les connaissances acquises pendant les excursions et sur la rapidité.
Par exemple, nous avons pas hésité à rester longtemp avec un clan de lions, et plus tard avec une famille de guépard.
Certains touristes ont fait massai Mara au pas de course sans avoir apris grand choses.
Alors à toi de voir, si l'économie sur le prix vaut le risque de faire des "économies" sur la prestation.
Sur ce forum, tu trouveras des adresses d'agences locales qui ont une bonne apréciation.
je ne travaille pas pour NF ....juré😉
Bon voyage Akuna matata Thierry
Partir, pour revenir avec un autre regard.
Bonjour Thierry et merci pour ta réponse.
As tu des bons conseils à me donner : des endroits à ne pas manquer. Et aussi je voudrai savoir si tu as plongée au Kenya parce qu'avec mon mari, nous avons tous les 2 le 1er niveau de plongée et j'aimerai bien faire qq plongées la-bas... en tous cas si je le fais je les acheterai pas NF parce qu'ils ne sont pas trop cher.
Sur ce forum, tu trouveras des adresses d'agences locales qui ont une bonne apréciation.
en connais-tu ?
As tu des bons conseils à me donner : des endroits à ne pas manquer. Et aussi je voudrai savoir si tu as plongée au Kenya parce qu'avec mon mari, nous avons tous les 2 le 1er niveau de plongée et j'aimerai bien faire qq plongées la-bas... en tous cas si je le fais je les acheterai pas NF parce qu'ils ne sont pas trop cher.
Sur ce forum, tu trouveras des adresses d'agences locales qui ont une bonne apréciation.
en connais-tu ?
Sandrine.
Bonjour Sandrine,
Je suis déja allée au Kenya et j'y retourne le 23 juin pour 18 jours..je peux sans problemes partager avec vous ce que je connais de ce pays..y'a qu'à demandé!!!.pour ce qui concerne les excursions je vous conseille très vivement de vous organiser une fois sur place...attention quand vous arriverez à l'hotel vous aurez droit à une réunion afin de vous informer qu'il ne faut surtout pas acheter dehors, et qu'il ne faut surtout pas sortir...que de betise!!!!!..Les gens la-bas sont spontanément gentils et très dévoués...ils sont pauvres, ont besoin d'argent et se pliraient en 4 pour travailler grace à vous...Ils adorent le troc...moi j'ai ramené beaucoup de choses et je n'en ai payé que très peu..il adore les tee-shirt, basket etc...Pour ce qui est des avis que vous pourrez obtenir, je vous conseille de faire un peu le tri...J'ai moi même pausé plein de question et j'avoue que les réponses sont parfois viennent d'une autre planete...une dame critiqué un hotel parce qu'elle n'avait la TV dan sla chamlbre!!! Drole de jugement...voila demandez moi si j'ai oublié des choses...a bientot.
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Bonjour et merci pour ces infos. D'apres vous est-ce risqué de passer directement par un beach-boy oubien vaut-il mieux les agences locales. Ces dernieres sont-elles moins cher que les excursions qui vont m'etre proposées à l'hotel ?
Et que pouvez-vous me conseiller dans les choses "à ne pas ratter". Je n'ai pas envie de passer à coter de qq chose qui vaut vraiment le coup car en principe on ne part jamais 2X au meme endroit.
En tous cas merci de votre gentillesse et j'attends de vos nouvelles.
Sandrine.
re-bonjour Isabelle,
Je vous conseille vivement de vous adresser aux beach boys...de toute facon eux meme vont s'adresser aux agences locales qui ne leur appliqueront pas le "supplément touriste"..Pour le reste il suffit d'un peu de logique, évidement je vous conseille de payer à la fin du service rendu (question de logique, faux pas tendre la perche quand même!!), pour les excursions il faudra faire un peu avec vos gouts mais deja je pense que le tour de ville de monbasa s'impose..par contre ne vous inquiétez pas si le beach boys ne vous fait pas descendre à certain endroit...exemple au marché, ce n'est pas pour vous embeter mais pour votre securité..il ya comme partout des quartiers chauds ou les touristes blanc rappellent trop les anciens colons!!..Pour ce qui est du safari, si vous devez choisir 1 parc, choississez le Masai Mara...c'est magnifique, mais c'est surtout le seul parc où il est autorisé de sortir des sentiers avec le véhicule, ce qui est super important quand un lionceau fait l'embecile avec sa mère à 650 metre de vous!!..la -bas vous pourrez vous rapprocher à 3m;...je le sais ca m'est arrivé!!..Mais attention malheureusement, ce parc est loin de Monbasa donc il faut prévoir au moins 3 jours avec peut-etre un vol enterieur...résultat les prix grimpent!!!...si vous le fait, je vous conseille pour le retour de revenir par le train de nuit Nairobi Monbasa...c'est un train couchette génial...sur le principe il n'a rien d'exceptionnel mais vraiment typique...des que le matin se lève, il traverse des p'tits village ou tout le long des rails des anfants vous souhaitent la bien venu en vous faisant coucou et en espérant recevoir quelques bonbons par la fenetre ...( j'ai oublié de vous dire prévoyez des bonbons... pour les enfants mais aussi pour les singes de l'hotel...ils viendront les manger dan svos mains)...Je vais m'arreter la je vais bloquer les message à moi toute seule à force parler...je reprendrais sur un autre message... si vous avez des questions..
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Bonjour,
Non je ne connais pas d'adresse d'agence locale, puisque nous avons acheter un circuit à NF. l'équipe (guide chauffeur et cuissinier) était de l'agence Polman's safari.
Pour moi, faire les excursions à partir de la côte n'est pas la bonne solution. Il vaut meiux faire un circuit depuis nairobi.
Massai mara est à voire, mais de monbassa, ça fait une trote. Le parc d'amboseli est très bien aussi. par contre d'autres parc, comme la réserve de nakuru sont quasi infaisable depuis la côte.
Pour la plongée, je n'ai fait qu'un qu'un baptème avec l'équi pe de l'île de wasini.
N'hésite pas pour plus d'info
Thierry
Non je ne connais pas d'adresse d'agence locale, puisque nous avons acheter un circuit à NF. l'équipe (guide chauffeur et cuissinier) était de l'agence Polman's safari.
Pour moi, faire les excursions à partir de la côte n'est pas la bonne solution. Il vaut meiux faire un circuit depuis nairobi.
Massai mara est à voire, mais de monbassa, ça fait une trote. Le parc d'amboseli est très bien aussi. par contre d'autres parc, comme la réserve de nakuru sont quasi infaisable depuis la côte.
Pour la plongée, je n'ai fait qu'un qu'un baptème avec l'équi pe de l'île de wasini.
N'hésite pas pour plus d'info
Thierry
Partir, pour revenir avec un autre regard.
salut,
je suis du même avis, il vaut mieux faire un safari depuis nairobi, à mon avis le masai mara et le nord du pays offre ce qu'il y a de mieux. amboseli c'est pas mal, mais tu es cantonné sur les pistes.(hic). la sensation de savane et de liberté en prends un coup. tout le kenya est magnifique, la variété des paysages est superbes, quand les animaux se font rares ( tsavo) les paysages prennent le relais! mais si tu veux voir de la bestioles c'est masai mara qui te comblera. pour la plongée, c'est pas le top, et le bord de mer est vite lassant.sans parlé des hippopos allemands qui ne viennent que pour se dorer et grossir... beurk. au pire le mer rouge s'est 100 fois mieux pour ça.rien que pour ça...!
pour les sociétes, on étaient avec pollman's, tres bien, guide recommandable mais surement tres occupé: antoine kimani.
j'ai vu aussi une société basée à monbasa la somak. pas mal.
voilà .
ciao😉
ha oui!
super important, emmenez tout et n'importe quoi, chaussures, chaussettes, stylos, cahiers, même pas en super état. et sortez des hotels, vous ferez des heureux et un peu de trocs. dans les villages du nord ils portent des tee shirts dont vous ne feriez pas des chiffons!!! mais pitiés : pas de bonbons. ils ont assez de problèmes comme ça! ciao
super important, emmenez tout et n'importe quoi, chaussures, chaussettes, stylos, cahiers, même pas en super état. et sortez des hotels, vous ferez des heureux et un peu de trocs. dans les villages du nord ils portent des tee shirts dont vous ne feriez pas des chiffons!!! mais pitiés : pas de bonbons. ils ont assez de problèmes comme ça! ciao
les excursions sont trés bien dans les hôtels, n'utilisez pas les services des beach boys, rien n'est assuré. Quant à la sécurité, nous revenons du Kenya et ce pour la seconde fois, Malindi et Mombasa, nous nous y sommes promenés seuls, sans aucun probléme, cependant ne sortez pas aprés la nuit tombée. Pour le visa, il est payable à l'aéroport moyennant 40 €
jhjanssens
Djambo,
Concernant les excursions achetées par l'intermédiaire des beach boys, des touristes qui logeaient dans l'hôtel où nous avons fini notre circuit ont eu une mauvaise expériences. Visite à fond de train, guide nul et nourriture à vomir.
Bien sur il ne faut pas en faire une généralité, mais cette méthode comporte des risques et on n'a aucun recours.
Sur la plage nous avons rencontré un beach boys, "capitaine Jimmy" 😎très sympa et qui semble très sérieux.
Par contre sur le marché de Monbassa, je ne comprend pas tes remarques car nous avons fait le marché, et il n'y a pas de risques majeurs (attention au pic pocket...) nous avons aussi visité la vielle ville, pris plusieurs fois les matatu, et nous avons fait des promenades dans plusieurs quartiers sans être inquiétés. le jour, bien évidement😕
On ne peut pas en faire autant à nairobi.🏴☠️
mais c'était en 2003 et cela a peut être changé...
Sur le Massai mara, les chauffeurs se "permettent" de sortir des pistes, mais comme ailleurs cela est interdit. mais c'est vrai que parfois, pour pouvoir approcher les fauves, c'est trop tentant... 😉
Pour les bonbons aux enfants, ....avec modération car ils n'ont pas accès aux soins dentaires...
Pour les singes faire attention quand même avec la nourriture. quand on a affaire à un petit singe, , ça va, mais quand c'est un babouin mâle adulte qui te fonce dessus pour te piquer ta bouffe ( des bananes) ben là ça craint et ça peut mal se passer. tu as plutôt intérêt à lui donner tout de suite🏴☠️🏴☠️
Sinon le Kenya, c'est magique....😛
A+ Akuna matata Thierry
Concernant les excursions achetées par l'intermédiaire des beach boys, des touristes qui logeaient dans l'hôtel où nous avons fini notre circuit ont eu une mauvaise expériences. Visite à fond de train, guide nul et nourriture à vomir.
Bien sur il ne faut pas en faire une généralité, mais cette méthode comporte des risques et on n'a aucun recours.
Sur la plage nous avons rencontré un beach boys, "capitaine Jimmy" 😎très sympa et qui semble très sérieux.
Par contre sur le marché de Monbassa, je ne comprend pas tes remarques car nous avons fait le marché, et il n'y a pas de risques majeurs (attention au pic pocket...) nous avons aussi visité la vielle ville, pris plusieurs fois les matatu, et nous avons fait des promenades dans plusieurs quartiers sans être inquiétés. le jour, bien évidement😕
On ne peut pas en faire autant à nairobi.🏴☠️
mais c'était en 2003 et cela a peut être changé...
Sur le Massai mara, les chauffeurs se "permettent" de sortir des pistes, mais comme ailleurs cela est interdit. mais c'est vrai que parfois, pour pouvoir approcher les fauves, c'est trop tentant... 😉
Pour les bonbons aux enfants, ....avec modération car ils n'ont pas accès aux soins dentaires...
Pour les singes faire attention quand même avec la nourriture. quand on a affaire à un petit singe, , ça va, mais quand c'est un babouin mâle adulte qui te fonce dessus pour te piquer ta bouffe ( des bananes) ben là ça craint et ça peut mal se passer. tu as plutôt intérêt à lui donner tout de suite🏴☠️🏴☠️
Sinon le Kenya, c'est magique....😛
A+ Akuna matata Thierry
Partir, pour revenir avec un autre regard.
...( j'ai oublié de vous dire prévoyez des bonbons... pour les enfants mais aussi pour les singes de l'hotel...ils viendront les manger dan svos mains)...Je vais m'arreter la je vais bloquer les message à moi toute seule à force parler...je reprendrais sur un autre message... si vous avez des questions..
Désolée, mais ce n'est pas une bonne idée de conseiller aux gens d'apporter des bonbons pour les singes!!! Primo ce n'est pas bon pour eux, mais surtout, il est fortement déconseillé, voire interdit de nourrir les animaux et les singes en particulier! Des panneaux autour des lodges indiquent clairement qu'il ne faut pas le faire, et cela se comprend!
Désolée, mais ce n'est pas une bonne idée de conseiller aux gens d'apporter des bonbons pour les singes!!! Primo ce n'est pas bon pour eux, mais surtout, il est fortement déconseillé, voire interdit de nourrir les animaux et les singes en particulier! Des panneaux autour des lodges indiquent clairement qu'il ne faut pas le faire, et cela se comprend!
Bonjour Olivier et merci a tous pour vos nombreuses réponses.
Je suis déjà parti plusieurs fois dans des pays d'afrique et je sais qu'il ne faut pas donner de bonbons aux enfants. En fait, je ne vais pas au Kenya pour faire un safari, mais plutot pour m'impregner du pays (j'adore l'afrique et les africains). J'en profite pour visiter et donc voire qqs animaux mais ce n'est pas le but de mon voyage.
Alors, je verrais bien sur place ce qui vaudra le coup ou pas.
Sandrine.
bonjour Lou,
Je comprends tout à fait votre réaction, mais je ne pas pense avoir conseillé aux gens de gaver les singes...il me semble avoir dis que c'était aussi pour les enfants..Vopus savez très bien, si vous y etes deja allée que de toute facon les singes ne se genent pas pour se servir eux mêmes!!
Quant au fait qu'il y ai des panneaux partout...il y a aussi à longueur de journée des gens et dirigeants, des hotels qui vont déconseillent et parfois de manière virulante, de ne pas aller sur les plages vous adresser aux beach boys, de ne pas faire d'excursions avec eux, de ne pas faire de change, d'achat ou de troc avec eux...
Je crois qu'il faut surtout arreter de trop vider notre sac d'idées negatives...Tout ce que j'ai dis dans mes messages est vrai (enfin pour ce qui concernait mon voyage!!), je l'ai vécu sans aucun problème, et j'y retourne dans deux mois..Merci d'avor pris le temps de me repondre ..au plaisir.
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Je connais très bien le Kenya, j'y suis allée pour la 6ème fois en février!
Pour les Beach Boys, je me prononcerai pas car je ne fais jamais de balnéaire;je n'aime pas la bronzette, je ne fais donc que des safaris...
J'avais bien compris que vous ne parliez pas de "gaver" les singes, mais si tous le monde commence à leur donner des bonbons parceque "ça fait une photo exotique" à montrer en rentrant, cela deviendrait vite infernal!!!😕
Sinon, on peut apporter des stylos, bloc de papier, casquettes, savons, lampes de poche, vêtements, etc
En changeant de parc, on croise bcp de gens et ils apprécient grandement!
Pour ceux qui doivent partir prochainement, vous pouvez leur apporter des bouteilles d'eau, comme déjà dit, car le pays traverse une très dramatique sécheresse...
Bonjour thierry,
Je viens de lire votre réponse avec attention, et il y a quelques points sur le lequel je voudrais revenir, si vous me le permettez...
Je comprends tout à fait votre réaction, mais je ne pas pense avoir conseillé aux gens de gaver les singes...Vous savez très bien, si vous y etes deja allé que de toute facon les singes ne se genent pas pour se servir eux mêmes!!...Par contre je n'ai jamais croisé de gros babouin sur la cote!!!...en safari certainement, mais pas dans les hotels!!
Au sujet des enfants, je trouve un peu hypocrite de considérer qu'il ne faut pas leur donner de bonbon car ils n'ont pas de dentiste..Il n'ont pas de médecin, ni de gastro-antérologue, donc j'en déduit qu'il ne fait pas non plus leur donner à manger et à boire!! Je ne suis pas actionnaire chez Haribo et je n'ai pas la prétention d'amener une valise entière de sucrerie mais seulement 1 ou2 sacs de bonbons...Pour trois semaines je ne trouve pas cela énorme...Un bonbon par enfant, je ne pense pas que cela soit une grande source de risque, ou tout au moins pas aussi importante que le faite de les priver d'un plaisir inconnu et immense que je vois à chaque fois dans leur yeux...La dernière fois je leur ai aussi ramener des cahiers et des crayons que je leur ai remis en mains propres dans une école...ils ont passé la matinée à m'ecrire et m'apprendre la chanson "Djambo Mbwana" que vous devez connaitre...C'est un moment que je n'oublierais jamais!!!
Pour les sorties à Monbasa, je suis très étonnée car nous avons ete face au scénario inverse : descente déconseillée à Monbasa, et sans souci au marché de Nairobi...biensur en faisant attention à pic-pocket comme vous dites... C'est bizarre comme quoi en allant dans le même pays on ne peut pas toujours avoir le même son de cloche..
Pour ce qui concerne les parcs, j'en ai fait quelques un, et je vous confirme qu'au Masai Mara, le responsble et notre guide African Quest, nous a expliqué que les véhicules ne restaient pas sur les sentiers, d'ailleur pendant deux jours de safaris au masai mara nous n'avons suivi les sentiers que très rarement..Et le chauffeur le faisait spontanément sans demande de notre part..Ce qui nous a vallu quelques souvenirs!!
Pour les excursions, je n'ai pas rencontré de problemes et pourtant, nous en avons fait (avec les beach boys): tour de ville, barrière de corail, peche aux gros(très cheres), change de dollars, langouste grillées sur la plage, et vraiment nous n'avons eu aucun probleme, mais j'avoue que nous avons eu des facilités car nous étions un groupe de 8...c'était plus facile pour marchander... Comme vous le dites, il ne faut pas faire une généralité des mauvais exemples que l'on peut lire...Mais ne sont'ils pas ceux que l'on garde en mémoire alors que l'on lit des milliers de bon souvenirs???? Des gens sont aussi lésés par les prestations des hotels sans pour autant avoir de recours possible!! Je crois qu'il faut surtout arreter de trop vider notre sac d'idées negatives...Tout ce que j'ai dis dans mes messages est vrai (enfin cela concernait mon voyage!!), je l'ai vécu sans aucun problème, et j'y retourne dans deux mois.. J'espère ne pas vous avoir froissé avec mes réponses et vous remercie d'avoir pris de votre temps pour me répondre.
Au sujet des enfants, je trouve un peu hypocrite de considérer qu'il ne faut pas leur donner de bonbon car ils n'ont pas de dentiste..Il n'ont pas de médecin, ni de gastro-antérologue, donc j'en déduit qu'il ne fait pas non plus leur donner à manger et à boire!! Je ne suis pas actionnaire chez Haribo et je n'ai pas la prétention d'amener une valise entière de sucrerie mais seulement 1 ou2 sacs de bonbons...Pour trois semaines je ne trouve pas cela énorme...Un bonbon par enfant, je ne pense pas que cela soit une grande source de risque, ou tout au moins pas aussi importante que le faite de les priver d'un plaisir inconnu et immense que je vois à chaque fois dans leur yeux...La dernière fois je leur ai aussi ramener des cahiers et des crayons que je leur ai remis en mains propres dans une école...ils ont passé la matinée à m'ecrire et m'apprendre la chanson "Djambo Mbwana" que vous devez connaitre...C'est un moment que je n'oublierais jamais!!!
Pour les sorties à Monbasa, je suis très étonnée car nous avons ete face au scénario inverse : descente déconseillée à Monbasa, et sans souci au marché de Nairobi...biensur en faisant attention à pic-pocket comme vous dites... C'est bizarre comme quoi en allant dans le même pays on ne peut pas toujours avoir le même son de cloche..
Pour ce qui concerne les parcs, j'en ai fait quelques un, et je vous confirme qu'au Masai Mara, le responsble et notre guide African Quest, nous a expliqué que les véhicules ne restaient pas sur les sentiers, d'ailleur pendant deux jours de safaris au masai mara nous n'avons suivi les sentiers que très rarement..Et le chauffeur le faisait spontanément sans demande de notre part..Ce qui nous a vallu quelques souvenirs!!
Pour les excursions, je n'ai pas rencontré de problemes et pourtant, nous en avons fait (avec les beach boys): tour de ville, barrière de corail, peche aux gros(très cheres), change de dollars, langouste grillées sur la plage, et vraiment nous n'avons eu aucun probleme, mais j'avoue que nous avons eu des facilités car nous étions un groupe de 8...c'était plus facile pour marchander... Comme vous le dites, il ne faut pas faire une généralité des mauvais exemples que l'on peut lire...Mais ne sont'ils pas ceux que l'on garde en mémoire alors que l'on lit des milliers de bon souvenirs???? Des gens sont aussi lésés par les prestations des hotels sans pour autant avoir de recours possible!! Je crois qu'il faut surtout arreter de trop vider notre sac d'idées negatives...Tout ce que j'ai dis dans mes messages est vrai (enfin cela concernait mon voyage!!), je l'ai vécu sans aucun problème, et j'y retourne dans deux mois.. J'espère ne pas vous avoir froissé avec mes réponses et vous remercie d'avoir pris de votre temps pour me répondre.
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
re-bonjour Lou,
Je suis bien d'accord avec vous, tout est relatif, je vous laisse lire, si vous le souhaitez la réponse que je viens de laisser à thierry...
Pour ce qui concerne le balnéaire, vous faite erreur pour la bronzette, être Français ne veut pas dire que nous agissons tous comme de allemands ou des américains qui viennent là pour tester les UV et les bieres locales!!!...le fait de rester sur les cotes vous permet d'aprécier d'autres environnements...Pour avoir fait quelques coins en Safari, la cote Nord et la Cote Sud (tout ceci en évitant la bronzette!!!), je peux vous assurer que j'y ai trouver beaucoup de choses très differentes, et de belles ames, tant en brousse, en montagne, qu'au bord de la mer!!!...
Au plaisir de vous croiser peut-etre un jour dans une case Masai à Naroc..
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Manue, il est vrai que dans le Masai Mara les chauffeurs sortent des pistes pour nous montrer les animaux plus près, mais cette année, ils ont très peur des rangers qui les surveillent!...
A plusieurs reprises, le nôtre nous disait qu'il ne pouvait pas restrer longtemps à cause des rangers, et les autres chauffeurs semblaient avoir la même crainte!
Je n'ai pas d'a priori concernant les gens qui aiment aller à la Côte faire du balnéaire, c'est juste que je n'aime pas la plage!
Quand retournez-vous au Kenya?
Re- coucou Lou,
Je pense que vous avez raison au sujet des chauffeurs il doivent avoir eu des instructions plus qu'importantes...Avec tous les braconniers et surement les touristes qui doivent abuser de leur "désir de découverte", vous avez dû et j'ai aussi rencontré des gens un peu inconscients.. Nous repartons le 23 juin, j'ai hate..je compte les jours même...Merci de ne pas avoir pris mal ce que je vous ai répondu mais je suis un peu agacée de lire certain truc...comme vous je pense...!!...Et pour vous le prochain départ?, , Bientot je vous le souhaite;...j'ai bien compris que vous n'aimiez pas la plage, mais vous devriez essayer de faire une petite halte sur des merveille comme Malindi...c'est vraiment différent mais magnifique.
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Oui, Malindi, ça doit être beau, et Lamu aussi.Vous connaissez?
J'aimerais beaucoup rester en contact avec vous car il me tarde de savoir si la saison des pluies qui arrive va bien se faire...
Si vous n'êtes pas retournée au Kenya depuis un bout de temps, vous allez être effarée de voir comme tout est sec et aride;ce n'est plus le vrai Kenya!
Je ne vais pas me répéter, mais vous pouvez aller lire le post intitulé:"Sécheresse au Kenya"...
Vous passez par quel agence pour vos safaris?
Nous on prend Privat Safaris, mais cette année, c'était hors de prix!😕
Oui, les gens doivent parfois pousser les chauffeurs à aller le plus près possible des animaux, et c'est regrettable, car quand on voit un lion entouré de 15 bus et jeeps, c'est triste je trouve!🤪
je vais lire les documents que vous m'avez conseillé avec beaucoup d'interet..je garderais contact avec vous volontier.
La saison des pluies doit etre attendue avec impatience...Nous devrions y arriver sur la fin..
Déja partie à cette periode nous avions une averse de 15 minute tous les soir vers 18h..
Nous avons l'habitude de partir avec African quest pour ce qui concerne les safaris mais vous avez raison c'est super cher...d'autant que cette année je me suis adressée à un photographe passionné qui propose de servir de "mise en relation" avec les organisation locales..grace à lui un agent d'african quest m'a soumis un programme deux fois plus cher que celui que j'ai demandé en direct!!...Nous verrons donc une fois sur place je crois!! Surtout que nous avons choisi de partir de Monbasa qui comme vous le savez n'est pas le meilleur des départs pour les safaris qui sont éloignés..Ils nous proposent à chaque fois des vols interieur qui gonfle le prix..J'aimerais refaire le mont Kenya, j'en ai gardé un super souvenir...mais comme vous me l'avez dit, le paysage des mes souvenirs si vert et luxuriant à dû etre endomagé par la secheresse..J'espère pouvoir vous raconter tout cela des notre retour le 1 juillet..
Nous avons l'habitude de partir avec African quest pour ce qui concerne les safaris mais vous avez raison c'est super cher...d'autant que cette année je me suis adressée à un photographe passionné qui propose de servir de "mise en relation" avec les organisation locales..grace à lui un agent d'african quest m'a soumis un programme deux fois plus cher que celui que j'ai demandé en direct!!...Nous verrons donc une fois sur place je crois!! Surtout que nous avons choisi de partir de Monbasa qui comme vous le savez n'est pas le meilleur des départs pour les safaris qui sont éloignés..Ils nous proposent à chaque fois des vols interieur qui gonfle le prix..J'aimerais refaire le mont Kenya, j'en ai gardé un super souvenir...mais comme vous me l'avez dit, le paysage des mes souvenirs si vert et luxuriant à dû etre endomagé par la secheresse..J'espère pouvoir vous raconter tout cela des notre retour le 1 juillet..
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
c'est bizarre ou tres recent car il y a 3 semaines on était 4 jours dans le masai mara et on a pas fait beaucoup de piste. on est allé dans tous les recoins possible, et même à pied au bord de la rivière..., le guide parlait parfaitement le français et nous a bien dis qu'il avait le droit.
quand à la fréquentation, y avait pas grand monde, remarque, on partait exactement à l'opposé des autres véhicules au départ . le guide était expérimenté.
il a même fallu lui interdir de sortir à stavo, plus tard, pour qu'il n'est pas d'ennuis! il voulait vraiment nous faire plaisir et je crois qu'il en prenait aussi.un passionné. halalalla!
quel tristesse d'^tre revenu🙁 .
allé salut .
Bonsoir,
je disais bien la même chose que vous mais visiblement des internautes m'ont dit que maintenant les chauffeurs avaient peur de sortir des sentiers..il avaient la crainte des rangers...je suis heureuse que vous me disiez que ce n'est pas tout le temps le cas...je repars le 23 juin et j'ai déja fais le masai mara dans les mêmes conditions que vous...j'aimerais les retrouver cette fois encore
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Djambo,
je n'ai pas pour habitude de rentrer dans des polémiques sur tel ou tel sujet sur ce forum, mais je reste surpris par ta réponse.
Je ne crois pas avoir vidé un sac d'idée négative, comme toi je fais part à d'autre membres de ce forum de MON expérience de voyage au kenya dont je garde un excellent souvenir.
Je ne remet pas en cause tes propos et TON expérience, je te demanderais de respecter la mienne.
A massai mara, le réglement interdit au véhicules de quiter les pistes, mais les chauffeurs le font quand même pour que les touriste puissent voire de près les animaux et les Rangers laissent faire..... on comprendra pourquoi...
A mombassa vraiment aucun problème, je tiens des photos à ta disposition.
Pour les babouins, je confirme: en novembre 2003, toute une famille devant notre chambre à l'hôtel PAPILLON LAGOON REEF (là aussi j'ai des photos et une vidéo). Pas agressifs, sauf quand ils aperçoivent des bananes dans les mains d'un touriste qui a compris à ce moment là, pourquoi il ne faut pas sortir de nouriture du restaurant...
Bon, je ne suis pas froissé, juste étonné du ton de ta réponse, ce n'est pas habituel sur ce forum où chacun apporte sa propre expérience du voyage, son avis et ses sentiments, sans forcément juger de ceux des autres.
sauf Kamiko, sur les post de madagascar
Et puis tu sais, malgrè notre différence d'âge, tu peux me tutoyer😉 C'est aussi un usage en court sur ce forum
Je te souhaite un excellent voyage au kenya😎. Avec ma femme on part à Madagascar dans un mois, ballade, rencontres, descente de rivière en canoë, plongée... vivement le 30 avril😎😏
A+ Thierry
je n'ai pas pour habitude de rentrer dans des polémiques sur tel ou tel sujet sur ce forum, mais je reste surpris par ta réponse.
Je ne crois pas avoir vidé un sac d'idée négative, comme toi je fais part à d'autre membres de ce forum de MON expérience de voyage au kenya dont je garde un excellent souvenir.
Je ne remet pas en cause tes propos et TON expérience, je te demanderais de respecter la mienne.
A massai mara, le réglement interdit au véhicules de quiter les pistes, mais les chauffeurs le font quand même pour que les touriste puissent voire de près les animaux et les Rangers laissent faire..... on comprendra pourquoi...
A mombassa vraiment aucun problème, je tiens des photos à ta disposition.
Pour les babouins, je confirme: en novembre 2003, toute une famille devant notre chambre à l'hôtel PAPILLON LAGOON REEF (là aussi j'ai des photos et une vidéo). Pas agressifs, sauf quand ils aperçoivent des bananes dans les mains d'un touriste qui a compris à ce moment là, pourquoi il ne faut pas sortir de nouriture du restaurant...
Bon, je ne suis pas froissé, juste étonné du ton de ta réponse, ce n'est pas habituel sur ce forum où chacun apporte sa propre expérience du voyage, son avis et ses sentiments, sans forcément juger de ceux des autres.
sauf Kamiko, sur les post de madagascar
Et puis tu sais, malgrè notre différence d'âge, tu peux me tutoyer😉 C'est aussi un usage en court sur ce forum
Je te souhaite un excellent voyage au kenya😎. Avec ma femme on part à Madagascar dans un mois, ballade, rencontres, descente de rivière en canoë, plongée... vivement le 30 avril😎😏
A+ Thierry
Partir, pour revenir avec un autre regard.
bonsoir thierry,
vous avez raison ce forum est un lieu d'échanges de moments de vie, mais ce matin la multitude de message me reprochant toujours la même chose m'a fortement agacée..encore une fois je m'excuse de vous avoir froissé ce n'étais pas intentionnel:!!Pour le tutoment je vous assure votre age (qui m'est inconnu!!!) n'y est pour rien c'est juste une habitude perso..
J'espère que vous vous régalerez à Madagascar, c'est vraiment une destination que je reverais de faire...il me serait agréable d'entendre vos recits des votre retour..le 30 avril sera bientot là..nous devons, de notre coté, patienter jusqu'au 23 juin dur dur!!
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Bonsoir,
Non non, pas froissé du tout, il m'en faut beaucoup plus, j'ai un moral en acier inoxydable 😎
promis, je garde ton adresse dans un coin et quand on revient de Mada je te raconte nos aventures en message privé.
A bientôt
Thierry
ps: mon age est sur mon profil
Non non, pas froissé du tout, il m'en faut beaucoup plus, j'ai un moral en acier inoxydable 😎
promis, je garde ton adresse dans un coin et quand on revient de Mada je te raconte nos aventures en message privé.
A bientôt
Thierry
ps: mon age est sur mon profil
Partir, pour revenir avec un autre regard.
Lou,
Je viens d'obtenir des nouveaux tarifs de l'agence african quest dont je vous ai parlé je crois..Ils sont vraiment intéressant (quand vous passé en direct!!!)...j'ai pourtant demandé un programme en safari privé, et ils sont tout à fait raisonnables..je vous les conseille, peut-etre pour votre prochain départ....
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Merci Manue!
Ont-ils un site que je puisse aller voir?
Oui, cela m'intéresse car je rêve d'y retourner!🙂
Lou,
Le site d'african quest est le suivant :
www.africanquest.co.ke, je vous laisse le mail de du contact que j'ai eus : taradamji@africanquest.co.ke
Nous repartons finalement à 4 aulieu de 2 (à force d'être motivée au fini par motiver les autres!!!), le 26 juin, j'ai hate!!!
Je vous souhaite de pourvoir repartir bientot vous aussi.
Nous repartons finalement à 4 aulieu de 2 (à force d'être motivée au fini par motiver les autres!!!), le 26 juin, j'ai hate!!!
Je vous souhaite de pourvoir repartir bientot vous aussi.
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Merci pour les coordonnées!
Me réjouis d'avoir vos impressions, et que vous puissiez me dire que la pluie est revenue
reverdir le beau Kenya!...
Personnellement, mon expérience avec African Quest a été des plus moyenne ...très décevante ! 😕
Cela ne veut pas dire que c'est une mauvaise agence ...juste que je n'ai pas eu de chance ..;chauffeur lamentable, imprudent, toujours pressé d'en finir et absolument pas francophone du tout du tout . j'avais de suite pris contact avec Tasmeen pour essayer de trouver une solution ..mais je me suis retrouvée face à un mur de mauvaise foi ...du style si si, il parle français ..;et je ne vous l'avais pas vraiment promis de toute façon ( ah bon ! dans l'offre de prix, c'était bien indiqué, chauffeur guide francophone )
Résultat des courses, safari gâché ( et c'était notre voyage de noces en plus ! 😕 )
Donc en résumé, si vous traiter avec African Quest ( en direct car via les conseils judicieux d'un certain photographe de renon, les prix grimpent ), surtout vérifier plusieurs fois les détails avec eux ! Faites vous bien confirmer et reconfirmer les promesses !
Cela ne veut pas dire que c'est une mauvaise agence ...juste que je n'ai pas eu de chance ..;chauffeur lamentable, imprudent, toujours pressé d'en finir et absolument pas francophone du tout du tout . j'avais de suite pris contact avec Tasmeen pour essayer de trouver une solution ..mais je me suis retrouvée face à un mur de mauvaise foi ...du style si si, il parle français ..;et je ne vous l'avais pas vraiment promis de toute façon ( ah bon ! dans l'offre de prix, c'était bien indiqué, chauffeur guide francophone )
Résultat des courses, safari gâché ( et c'était notre voyage de noces en plus ! 😕 )
Donc en résumé, si vous traiter avec African Quest ( en direct car via les conseils judicieux d'un certain photographe de renon, les prix grimpent ), surtout vérifier plusieurs fois les détails avec eux ! Faites vous bien confirmer et reconfirmer les promesses !
Chinook
Bonjour, je suis déja partie avec African quest et visiblement j'ai été plus chanceuse que vous...Nous avons passé une semaine géniale, notre guide se pliait en 4 pour nous...
Pour les coneils du fameux photographe, je suis mille fois d'accord avec vous...c'est hallucinant...Pour le même programme demandé en même temps sans le savoir à la même agence (african quest!!), mais avec une version en directe et une version intermédiaire (le photgraphe)... 🤪Ils ne se sont pas aperçus qu'ils envoyés le devis à une seule et même personne...resultat oh! surprise!!! 300 dollars$ de différence!!!.par personne!!!!.....j'ai trouvé ça hallucinant!!! Pour un photographe qui se veut pleine de bonnes intention..Je vous laisse juge!!😕
Resultat des courses je traite maintenant en direct avec afrcian quest et j'ai eu un super prix pour un safari privé.. Je vous en donnerais le resultat le 10 juillet à notre retour.
Pour les coneils du fameux photographe, je suis mille fois d'accord avec vous...c'est hallucinant...Pour le même programme demandé en même temps sans le savoir à la même agence (african quest!!), mais avec une version en directe et une version intermédiaire (le photgraphe)... 🤪Ils ne se sont pas aperçus qu'ils envoyés le devis à une seule et même personne...resultat oh! surprise!!! 300 dollars$ de différence!!!.par personne!!!!.....j'ai trouvé ça hallucinant!!! Pour un photographe qui se veut pleine de bonnes intention..Je vous laisse juge!!😕
Resultat des courses je traite maintenant en direct avec afrcian quest et j'ai eu un super prix pour un safari privé.. Je vous en donnerais le resultat le 10 juillet à notre retour.
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Chinook et Manue, le photographe en question, c'est André Brunsperger, et son site:
www.kenya-safari.com ?
Ce n'est-hélas-pas demain que je retournerai au Kenya, peut-être dans 2 ans, mais je garde vos conseils!
Gagné 😛
Je compte bien aussi retourner au Kenya dans les prochains années, quoique d'autres pays africains semblent bin attirant ...Afrique du sud, Botswana, Namibie .....
Cette année, ce sera l'Ouganda en septembre . A mon retour, je viendrai faire une petit compte rendu . L'Ouganda est un pays nettement moins touristique que le Kenya, qui semble très varié et finalement ( en dehors du permis gorille ) moins cher que le Kenya et surtout que la Tanzanie qui ont fort augmenté leurs prix ces denières années.
Je compte bien aussi retourner au Kenya dans les prochains années, quoique d'autres pays africains semblent bin attirant ...Afrique du sud, Botswana, Namibie .....
Cette année, ce sera l'Ouganda en septembre . A mon retour, je viendrai faire une petit compte rendu . L'Ouganda est un pays nettement moins touristique que le Kenya, qui semble très varié et finalement ( en dehors du permis gorille ) moins cher que le Kenya et surtout que la Tanzanie qui ont fort augmenté leurs prix ces denières années.
Chinook
Oui, la Namibie m'attire aussi, ainsi que le Botswana, mais je n'aime guère prendre l'avion, même si mon attirance pour voyager est la plus forte, mais bon, ça fait bien 2 heures de vol en plus!😠
Dommage que le photographe en question prenne autant au passage, car son site est une mine de renseignements, et il semble compétent!...
Chinook
Exacte pour le photographe...c'est vrai que son site est bien fait, pour le reste on sait à quoi s'attendre.
Ma soeur (qui a finalement resigné pour le Kenya aussi!) est allée en Afrique du sud, elle est revenue echantée, mais elle m'a bien expliqué c'est un pays d'afrique un peu "a part", visiblement d'après ce que j'ai compris le contact est moins omniprésent avec les population c'est souvent difficile et l'insécurité récurente limite parfois les progression...Mais il faut essayer et juger de ces propres yeux....
Pour ma part j'envisagerai bien madagascar aussi!!...mais bon on va se concentrée sur le kenya d'abord..
hakuna matata, Carpe diem
Manue
Voila, Manue:www.privat-safaris.ch
Et ensuite, il faut cliquer tout en bas à gauche pour avoir la version en français!
entierement d'accord avec vous, quittez les sentiers balisés pour aller à la rencontre des animaux, c'est bien mais quand on est une ribambelle autour d'un lion qui essaie de se reposer, ca devient limite harcelement : le crépitement des appareils photos, les bipbip des camescope.... pauvres betes, sans compter les commentaires peu discrets des touristes.Je préfère de loin prendre mes jumelles et respecter un peu leur intimité comme c'est le cas dans pas mal de parc aussi bien au kenya qu'en tanzanie pour ce qui est des beach boys, gaffe, de plus en plus de somaliens fréquentent les plages j'ai failli me retrouver à poil juste avant de reprendre l'avion pour les autres, si on a vraiment besoin de rien et si on a plus rien😉 a echanger, une poignée de main et un non merci n'ont jamais tué personne
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!