My partner and I are planning a 2-week trip to Goa from late September to early October. It’s sandwiched between a trip to Nepal (September) and our return home to Thailand. We can’t stay longer, but cutting it shorter wouldn’t be worth the effort or flight costs.
I’ve visited several regions of India in the past (between 2000 and 2020) and spent a total of about 4 months there. My only time in Goa was a few days in Palolem in 2007—I didn’t like it. I found the place almost sordid with all the crowds... not at all the India I love.
But I have an Indian friend with 2 or 3 apartments in a residence in North Goa who keeps telling me to visit. I’m tempted. But where should we go? I don’t want to rent from him because it’s expensive (high-end) and I don’t want to feel too dependent on him either.
After 2 days in Panaji (since it’s near GOI), I’ve booked 5 days in Mandrem, which I’ve heard great things about. This’ll let us explore the Arambol area. I’m hesitant to stay there longer—if we don’t like it or get bored after a few days, spending the full 2 weeks there isn’t ideal! I’m thinking of trying South Goa instead, somewhere between Benaulim and Agonda. The downside? All the rumors about the vibe in different spots—loud techno here, jet skis there, "paunchy English tourists" elsewhere, package tours everywhere... not to mention the expected influx of Russians and/or Israelis (I’ve seen this in other parts of India, Thailand, and Vietnam). Plus, accommodation options are way more limited in the south.
Basically, I’m leaning toward Agonda—relaxed but not too quiet or isolated. But there’s so little availability on sites like Booking and Agoda...
Any recent tips or advice from folks who’ve been to Goa lately? I’d really appreciate it, thanks in advance!
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Namasté,
Bien sûr il a des milliers de morts dans le monde liés au COVD 19, bien sûr il y a bien plus de désastres dans les familles touchées par l’infection, mais je voulais juste avoir une pensée pour les Népalais qui subissent la double peine de cette pandémie.
J’ai des relations avec un responsable d’agence de treks à KTM, avec deux accompagnateurs de moyenne ( ?!) montagne et un guide de haute montagne. Pour eux l’avenir est très sombre et leur situation à court terme par le manque de touristes étrangers est quasi dramatique, mais je pense aussi à toutes ces personnes qui en vivent : porteurs, guesthouses, commerces etc etc..
Fait chier !
A++ Le Belu
Bien sûr il a des milliers de morts dans le monde liés au COVD 19, bien sûr il y a bien plus de désastres dans les familles touchées par l’infection, mais je voulais juste avoir une pensée pour les Népalais qui subissent la double peine de cette pandémie.
J’ai des relations avec un responsable d’agence de treks à KTM, avec deux accompagnateurs de moyenne ( ?!) montagne et un guide de haute montagne. Pour eux l’avenir est très sombre et leur situation à court terme par le manque de touristes étrangers est quasi dramatique, mais je pense aussi à toutes ces personnes qui en vivent : porteurs, guesthouses, commerces etc etc..
Fait chier !
A++ Le Belu
De retour d’un premier séjour au Ladakh…je me décide enfin à écrire quelques lignes.
En effet le voyage date déjà de quelques mois, l’été 2019. Mieux vaut tard que jamais…
Beaucoup de montagnards chevronnés sur cette destination (il y a peut être une certaine logique à cela), je dois avouer que je n’entre pas dans cette catégorie… ce qui ne m’empêche pas d’apprécier de grandioses paysages de montagne !! Mes motivations premières pour cette destination étaient donc : la découverte de la région et des ses habitants, bien entendu ; l’Himalaya bien sûr, mais sans forcément penser à faire de grandes marches / de grands escalades ; les monastères bouddhistes, cela va sans dire ; et les routes mythiques, en particulier la route ralliant Leh à Manali qui est bien haut dans ma wish-list depuis un certain nombre d’années…
Avant de rentrer dans le vif du sujet, un grand merci à tous ceux qui ont répondu à mes messages et m’ont aidé à dans ma préparation. Et des very special thanks au grand spécialiste de la destination, Djullé84, qui, m’a grandement aidé dans mon itinéraire, et qui a aussi influé sur le contenu de mon voyage. On en reparlera !
Donc, les grandes lignes de ce voyage ont été : - Leh (inévitablement) et les monastères de la vallée de l’Indus - Le festival de Lamayuru - Le trek de la Markha - Une virée dans la vallée de la Nubra - Le trajet de retour en bus de Leh à Delhi. Pour les déplacements, les transports publics sont privilégiés, autant que possible.
Durée / période : ~3 semaines, fin juin / mi-juillet
Le voyage jusqu'à Leh : vol jusqu’à Delhi sur Lufthansa via Munich (Lufthansa est très concurrentiel vers les destinations asiatiques depuis ma province). Arrivée Delhi peu avant minuit, passage à l’immigration sans problème pour valider mon visa à entrées multiples sur un an obtenu sur internet. Je traîne quelques heures dans l’aéroport puis je m’aperçois qu’il me faut changer de terminal pour prendre mon vol SpiceJet du petit matin. Le terminal 1D est loin, la navette en bus est gratuite en montrant sa carte d’embarquement du vol précédent et sa réservation du vol suivant (à prendre près du pilier 10 accessible par la sortie 4, le monsieur dans la cabane donne le ticket). Heureusement, j’avais été attentif lors de ma réservation et je n’avais pas acheté mon billet avec une CB virtuelle : il faut effectivement montrer la CB avec laquelle on a fait l’achat pour obtenir sa boarding card…(Spicejet) Vol sans histoire, mais… le ciel très couvert ne permet aucun spectacle, c’est une déception car ça aurait pu être pire : le vol n’a pas été annulé… Avion jusqu'à Leh, donc : d'une part en juin, c'est encore tôt dans la saison pour prendre la route ; et d'autre part, la route Delhi-Manali-Leh me paraît très haute pour l'emprunter sans aucune acclimatation, je la réserve pour le retour... Et l'autre possibilité par Amritsar et Srinagar était très tentante, mais d'une part elle exigeait beaucoup de temps, et d'autre part cet itinéraire fait emprunter des trajets qui se situent dans la zone rouge du ministère des affaires étrangères...
Depuis l'aéroport, le taxi pour le centre de Leh coûte 450 Rs (flat price), installation à la GH, réservée sur booking, dans le vieux Leh, entre le terrain de polo et la rue principale.
La 1ère journée se passe au ralenti, sous un ciel couvert, il me faut récupérer du voyage et de la nuit dans l’aéroport de Delhi, et m’acclimater à l’altitude. Premières découvertes de Leh qui au premier abord et sous le ciel gris, n’est pas vraiment enthousiasmante (ça me rassure un peu d’avoir lu quelque part (n’est ce pas, Djullé84) que « chaque journée passée à Leh est une journée de moins passée au Ladakh »…). Ah tous ces toutous en train de roupiller… La première nuit est un peu difficile, mal de tête avec l’altitude… Et les chiens donnent un concert dès le coucher du soleil. Je comprends pourquoi les chiens dormaient dans la journée : à Leh, le chien est un animal nocturne, qui dort le jour et qui passe ses nuits à aboyer… Ah, il y a le chant du muezzin aussi…
Temps pluvieux le matin (et j’apprends qu’il n’y a aucun vol depuis/vers Leh aujourd’hui…), il me faut récupérer des infos pratiques pour organiser la suite du voyage (les jours et heures des bus, en particulier …). Le temps s’arrange, location de scooter l’après midi, je parviens à en obtenir un bien que je n’aie pas pu avoir mon permis de conduire international en temps et en heure. Je vais aller jusqu’à Phyang. Une fois sorti des embouteillages et du bazar de Leh, la ballade permet les premières vues spectaculaires sur les montagnes himalayennes et sur l’Indus. Et les premiers convois militaires à croiser aussi, ils seront omniprésents sur les routes…Et la possibilité de voir de près le 1er monastère ! (mais pas de le visiter à l’heure de mon arrivée) Côté organisation, j’ai pu planifier les choses : dans les prochains jours, ce sera une virée Alchi – Likir – Lamayuru et retour sur Leh : le lendemain je prendrai un premier bus pour Alchi ; mon périple continuera en prenant le bus qui repart pour Leh ; en descendant à la bifurcation pour Likir, je pourrai ensuite monter à pied pour la fin d’après-midi et la nuit à Likir. Le jour suivant je redescendrai à pied à la highway prendre le bus pour Lamayuru, où je resterai deux jours et demi (dont une pleine journée de festival) avant de rentrer en bus pour Leh. J’en repartirai le lendemain pour la vallée de la Markha. Leh sera donc ma plaque tournante, ce qui me permet de m’alléger en demandant à la GH de garder une partie de mes affaires lors de chacune de mes escapades.
(à suivre)
En effet le voyage date déjà de quelques mois, l’été 2019. Mieux vaut tard que jamais…
Beaucoup de montagnards chevronnés sur cette destination (il y a peut être une certaine logique à cela), je dois avouer que je n’entre pas dans cette catégorie… ce qui ne m’empêche pas d’apprécier de grandioses paysages de montagne !! Mes motivations premières pour cette destination étaient donc : la découverte de la région et des ses habitants, bien entendu ; l’Himalaya bien sûr, mais sans forcément penser à faire de grandes marches / de grands escalades ; les monastères bouddhistes, cela va sans dire ; et les routes mythiques, en particulier la route ralliant Leh à Manali qui est bien haut dans ma wish-list depuis un certain nombre d’années…
Avant de rentrer dans le vif du sujet, un grand merci à tous ceux qui ont répondu à mes messages et m’ont aidé à dans ma préparation. Et des very special thanks au grand spécialiste de la destination, Djullé84, qui, m’a grandement aidé dans mon itinéraire, et qui a aussi influé sur le contenu de mon voyage. On en reparlera !
Donc, les grandes lignes de ce voyage ont été : - Leh (inévitablement) et les monastères de la vallée de l’Indus - Le festival de Lamayuru - Le trek de la Markha - Une virée dans la vallée de la Nubra - Le trajet de retour en bus de Leh à Delhi. Pour les déplacements, les transports publics sont privilégiés, autant que possible.
Durée / période : ~3 semaines, fin juin / mi-juillet
Le voyage jusqu'à Leh : vol jusqu’à Delhi sur Lufthansa via Munich (Lufthansa est très concurrentiel vers les destinations asiatiques depuis ma province). Arrivée Delhi peu avant minuit, passage à l’immigration sans problème pour valider mon visa à entrées multiples sur un an obtenu sur internet. Je traîne quelques heures dans l’aéroport puis je m’aperçois qu’il me faut changer de terminal pour prendre mon vol SpiceJet du petit matin. Le terminal 1D est loin, la navette en bus est gratuite en montrant sa carte d’embarquement du vol précédent et sa réservation du vol suivant (à prendre près du pilier 10 accessible par la sortie 4, le monsieur dans la cabane donne le ticket). Heureusement, j’avais été attentif lors de ma réservation et je n’avais pas acheté mon billet avec une CB virtuelle : il faut effectivement montrer la CB avec laquelle on a fait l’achat pour obtenir sa boarding card…(Spicejet) Vol sans histoire, mais… le ciel très couvert ne permet aucun spectacle, c’est une déception car ça aurait pu être pire : le vol n’a pas été annulé… Avion jusqu'à Leh, donc : d'une part en juin, c'est encore tôt dans la saison pour prendre la route ; et d'autre part, la route Delhi-Manali-Leh me paraît très haute pour l'emprunter sans aucune acclimatation, je la réserve pour le retour... Et l'autre possibilité par Amritsar et Srinagar était très tentante, mais d'une part elle exigeait beaucoup de temps, et d'autre part cet itinéraire fait emprunter des trajets qui se situent dans la zone rouge du ministère des affaires étrangères...
Depuis l'aéroport, le taxi pour le centre de Leh coûte 450 Rs (flat price), installation à la GH, réservée sur booking, dans le vieux Leh, entre le terrain de polo et la rue principale.
La 1ère journée se passe au ralenti, sous un ciel couvert, il me faut récupérer du voyage et de la nuit dans l’aéroport de Delhi, et m’acclimater à l’altitude. Premières découvertes de Leh qui au premier abord et sous le ciel gris, n’est pas vraiment enthousiasmante (ça me rassure un peu d’avoir lu quelque part (n’est ce pas, Djullé84) que « chaque journée passée à Leh est une journée de moins passée au Ladakh »…). Ah tous ces toutous en train de roupiller… La première nuit est un peu difficile, mal de tête avec l’altitude… Et les chiens donnent un concert dès le coucher du soleil. Je comprends pourquoi les chiens dormaient dans la journée : à Leh, le chien est un animal nocturne, qui dort le jour et qui passe ses nuits à aboyer… Ah, il y a le chant du muezzin aussi…
Temps pluvieux le matin (et j’apprends qu’il n’y a aucun vol depuis/vers Leh aujourd’hui…), il me faut récupérer des infos pratiques pour organiser la suite du voyage (les jours et heures des bus, en particulier …). Le temps s’arrange, location de scooter l’après midi, je parviens à en obtenir un bien que je n’aie pas pu avoir mon permis de conduire international en temps et en heure. Je vais aller jusqu’à Phyang. Une fois sorti des embouteillages et du bazar de Leh, la ballade permet les premières vues spectaculaires sur les montagnes himalayennes et sur l’Indus. Et les premiers convois militaires à croiser aussi, ils seront omniprésents sur les routes…Et la possibilité de voir de près le 1er monastère ! (mais pas de le visiter à l’heure de mon arrivée) Côté organisation, j’ai pu planifier les choses : dans les prochains jours, ce sera une virée Alchi – Likir – Lamayuru et retour sur Leh : le lendemain je prendrai un premier bus pour Alchi ; mon périple continuera en prenant le bus qui repart pour Leh ; en descendant à la bifurcation pour Likir, je pourrai ensuite monter à pied pour la fin d’après-midi et la nuit à Likir. Le jour suivant je redescendrai à pied à la highway prendre le bus pour Lamayuru, où je resterai deux jours et demi (dont une pleine journée de festival) avant de rentrer en bus pour Leh. J’en repartirai le lendemain pour la vallée de la Markha. Leh sera donc ma plaque tournante, ce qui me permet de m’alléger en demandant à la GH de garder une partie de mes affaires lors de chacune de mes escapades.
(à suivre)
Bonjour à tous,
J'ai l'intention de remonter la vallée de l'Inkhu Khola depuis Bung (lorsque ce sera possible !).
Je voudrais savoir si entre Sibuje et Khote il y a de quoi dormir (lodge ou chez l'habitant).Merci.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Bonjour,
je devais partir en Chine avec mon fils de 22 ans du 1er au 20 avril mais, évidemment, nous nous préparons à annuler (d'autant que c'était dans les régions juste au nord du Hubei). Du coup, nous cherchons à pivoter parce qu'on les attend depuis un moment ces vacances... Nous sommes bien tentés par le Népal. J'ai commencé à regarder les vols, ça semble jouable avec Air India à peu près sur les mêmes dates.
Un gros mois pour tout réorganiser, pas peur...
Sur les formalités, le routard signale qu'on peut télécharger un truc en ligne mais qu'il faut régler à l'arrivée en dollars, le MAE signale qu'on peut aussi passer au consulat. C'est pas très clair de comprendre quelle est la solution la plus facile... Votre avis ?
Concernant le contenu, on est plutôt tournés ambiance, culture, etc. On était au Yunnan l'an dernier et les hautes terres autour de Shangri-Là nous ont bien plût. Nous allons au Sichuan cet été (si...) et nous allons aller aussi sur les contreforts de l'Himalaya. On a fait des marches (20 km) à 3.000m et c'était agréable mais on ne se sent pas à faire une marche de plusieurs jours.
Sur le circuit, si on suppose qu'on arrive le 2 et qu'on repart le 19, ça doit pouvoir faire deux sous-circuits : Un circuit Katmandou-Bandipur Pokhara - Lumbini - Chitwan un circuit dans la vallée de Katmandou (qui semble déjà très riche)
Et, visiblement, coup de bol, on aura l'occasion de vivre le nouvel an ?
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Un gros mois pour tout réorganiser, pas peur...
Sur les formalités, le routard signale qu'on peut télécharger un truc en ligne mais qu'il faut régler à l'arrivée en dollars, le MAE signale qu'on peut aussi passer au consulat. C'est pas très clair de comprendre quelle est la solution la plus facile... Votre avis ?
Concernant le contenu, on est plutôt tournés ambiance, culture, etc. On était au Yunnan l'an dernier et les hautes terres autour de Shangri-Là nous ont bien plût. Nous allons au Sichuan cet été (si...) et nous allons aller aussi sur les contreforts de l'Himalaya. On a fait des marches (20 km) à 3.000m et c'était agréable mais on ne se sent pas à faire une marche de plusieurs jours.
Sur le circuit, si on suppose qu'on arrive le 2 et qu'on repart le 19, ça doit pouvoir faire deux sous-circuits : Un circuit Katmandou-Bandipur Pokhara - Lumbini - Chitwan un circuit dans la vallée de Katmandou (qui semble déjà très riche)
Et, visiblement, coup de bol, on aura l'occasion de vivre le nouvel an ?
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Bonjour,
j'ai 3 semaines de vacances pendant la période de Noel et je souhaiterais me rendre au Nepal (avec mon compagnon). J'aimerai y faire un trek, mais j'ai du mal à me décider...
A Part le Trek de Langtang, en auriez-vous d'autres à me conseiller à faire si possible en autonomie sur la période de fin décembre-début janvier?
Merci🙂
j'ai 3 semaines de vacances pendant la période de Noel et je souhaiterais me rendre au Nepal (avec mon compagnon). J'aimerai y faire un trek, mais j'ai du mal à me décider...
A Part le Trek de Langtang, en auriez-vous d'autres à me conseiller à faire si possible en autonomie sur la période de fin décembre-début janvier?
Merci🙂
J'ai pris une carte sim à 500 rs avant de sortir de l'aéroport de Kochi chez Airtel.
Après un coup de fil à passer 1/2 h plus tard la carte marchait 1/4 h plus tard.
Ils m'ont juste pris une photo avec leur téléphone, photo de mon passeport et de la carte de visite de la hs que j'avais gardé...à la limite si on est déjà allé en Inde une carte de visite de n'importent quel lieu devrait faire.
Bonjour, je viens visiter le nepal avec ma fille de 18 ans.
Ni elle ni moi ne sommes partant pour des treks de plusieurs jours (ballade à la journée autour des villes visitée)
Nous venons 19 jours mais avec l'envie de profiter de shiva ratri au milieu du sejour que nous pensons passer à Kathmandou. ce qui complique pour faire un grand tour.
Je pensais donc passer les Premiers jours à et autour de kathmandou puis partir un peu plus loin.
que faire donc autour de kathmandou?
Pour un tour de 8 jours? le classique Bandipur - pokhara - lumbini - chitwan ?? ce n'est pas beaucoup de route en si peu de temps?
merci de vos conseils
Ni elle ni moi ne sommes partant pour des treks de plusieurs jours (ballade à la journée autour des villes visitée)
Nous venons 19 jours mais avec l'envie de profiter de shiva ratri au milieu du sejour que nous pensons passer à Kathmandou. ce qui complique pour faire un grand tour.
Je pensais donc passer les Premiers jours à et autour de kathmandou puis partir un peu plus loin.
que faire donc autour de kathmandou?
Pour un tour de 8 jours? le classique Bandipur - pokhara - lumbini - chitwan ?? ce n'est pas beaucoup de route en si peu de temps?
merci de vos conseils
Bonjour, après avoir passé un mois au Sri-Lanka, je vais aller au Sud de l'Inde, est ce que des gens l'aurait deja fait en bateau pour avoir un retour d'experience?
merci d'avance
merci d'avance
Bonjour,
Je suis actuellement à Chennai et je voudrais aller visiter les laquedives... Quelqu'un aurait il des infos récentes ?
Merci
Bonjour,
nous avons prévu un voyage en Inde du sud cet été (3 semaines en juillet/début août) et nous souhaiterions savoir s'il y a des liaisons en car de Panjim à Hampi (et retour) tous les jours de la semaine et éventuellement le coût. Merci d'avance pour vos réponses
JCE
nous avons prévu un voyage en Inde du sud cet été (3 semaines en juillet/début août) et nous souhaiterions savoir s'il y a des liaisons en car de Panjim à Hampi (et retour) tous les jours de la semaine et éventuellement le coût. Merci d'avance pour vos réponses
JCE
Bonjour, depuis ma dernière visite en 2006 à Kolkata, les prix semblent avoir fait un sacré bond... Quelqu'un aurait il un plan sympa du côté de Scudder Street? Dans les 1000 max en chambre simple... La salvation Army gh est devenue ruineuse... Un homestay ? Merci
Je construis mon périple entre ces 2 destinations et me voilà bloquée. Help!
6 semaines pour faire ce voyage et après un petit break d’acclimatation vers Gokarna, je remonte lentement en suivant tous les bons conseils du forum de Badami à Indore en une trentaine de jours
De Indore l’idée était de redescendre sur Bombay en passant par Nasik mais entre ces deux villes c’est bien long et je n’y vois pas de points d’intérêt.
Arrivée à Indore ou Ujjain j’ai encore du temps une grosse semaine et je peux m’écarter du chemin. J’aimerais juste éviter de revenir sur mes pas.
Alors si vous avez des conseils à me donner Je vous en remercie d’avance.
Bonjour,
Nous rentrons du Gujarat où nous nous sommes posées 3 jours à Diu, histoire de profiter un peu de la mer... Pas folichon comme expérience, le regard pesant et malsain des mecs sur la plage, le côté désagréable d'être encerclées une fois dans l'eau (et oui, nous les attirions comme un bout de viande attire les mouches), l'impression d'être en train de faire quelque chose d'interdit alors que nous étions en maillot une pièce et assises sur la plage entourées dans nos paréos...
Bref, nous avions prévu les iles ANDAMAN en mars 2020 mais maintenant on s'interroge - Si vous connaissez, dites nous vite comment çà se passe là-bas sur les plages !
A vous lire. Merci d'avance
Quels sont les passages de frontière terrestre possibles actuellement entre la région de Kolkata et le Bangladesh?
Merci.
Hi everyone,
I’ve browsed this forum a lot about Ladakh and haven’t found answers to my questions... so here’s my post.
I’m heading there next July with a friend for a solid ten days of cycling (no e-bikes) in Ladakh. The flight to Leh is booked for both of us and our bikes.
I’ve got my route planned out pretty precisely; the main goal is to climb Umling La, which is currently the world’s highest motorable road at 5,798 m. We’re also planning to tackle 3 or 4 other passes over 5,000 m, including Photila, just next door at a little over 5,500 m.
I’ve read accounts from Europeans saying it’s impossible for foreigners to spend a night in Hanle... that the closest accommodation to the Chinese border would be in Nyoma. What do you think about that?
Also, some say the road between Hanle and Chushul (the one via Tsaga) is off-limits to non-Indians... Is the parallel route, the one via Mahé and Kaksang La (5,400 m), open to foreigners?
Is the road along Pangong Lake (the one through Merak and Man) also off-limits to foreigners?
Thanks for your feedback!
I’ve read accounts from Europeans saying it’s impossible for foreigners to spend a night in Hanle... that the closest accommodation to the Chinese border would be in Nyoma. What do you think about that?
Also, some say the road between Hanle and Chushul (the one via Tsaga) is off-limits to non-Indians... Is the parallel route, the one via Mahé and Kaksang La (5,400 m), open to foreigners?
Is the road along Pangong Lake (the one through Merak and Man) also off-limits to foreigners?
Thanks for your feedback!
Hello everyone,
Here’s a little recap of our 3-week trip to India (retired couple) in January 2024. This is our personal experience and how we felt at the time. This is the 7th time we’ve been to India, and after experiencing public transport day and night—and with age catching up—we opted for a more "chill" pace this time, prioritizing flights and taxis while slightly increasing our accommodation budget. Regarding that accommodation budget (double room), we chose a range between 30 and 40 €, and we didn’t really notice much difference compared to the lower range we used to book on previous trips (between 20 and 30 €). But prices have likely gone up since my last visit in 2018.
So here are some personal tips and opinions, good addresses, and others to avoid. Exchange rate: In January 2024, 100 rupees were worth about 1.12 euros (1 euro = 89 INR at exchange bureaus). To convert rupees to euros: X rupees divided by 89 = X euros. For simplicity, we divided the price in rupees by 100 and added about 10% to get the equivalent in euros.
Our itinerary: Mumbai/Aurangabad (Ellora and Ajanta) / Badami / Hampi / Goa (Agonda) / Mumbai Flight: With British Airways—very (too) short layover in London (2 hours in theory...) for the connection to Mumbai, but a 1-hour delay on the flight from CDG, so we had to rush in London with two shuttles to take and security to clear before reaching the departure gate. We had a 15-minute margin by speeding... same stress on the way back...
Mumbai: On the day we arrived in Mumbai, we took a flight to Aurangabad with Indigo. **Note:** Terminal change for this flight. Free buses connect T2 to T1. The flight was fine, even with a 2-hour delay...
Aurangabad: Accommodation: Hotel JP International (35 €/night): Large, "decorated" room with comfortable bedding. But the hotel is showing its age. The air conditioning is a bit noisy, and the faucets and shower have seen better days... Breakfast is included in the price with a buffet—it’s decent. You just have to ask for toast, jam, and eggs, as it’s mostly an Indian buffet... The rooftop restaurant is okay. The hotel is a bit pricey for what it is... The owner, a bit gruff at first, was helpful and assisted us with taxis for visiting the Ellora and Ajanta sites, as it’s hard to find taxis for those trips on the street—no travel agencies in this area. Restaurant: Le Great Sagar (on the main street): Close to the hotel, good food, and plenty of choices. Exchange: We struggled to exchange euros in Aurangabad. No banks exchange money (we tried five...). Only Thomas Cook does: Jalna Road near the Ramgiri Hotel.
Ellora: A magnificent site 25 km from Aurangabad. **Tip:** Arrive early (by 9 AM max) and visit the Kailasha Temple first—it’s the world’s largest monolithic structure—and it gets much busier later.
Ajanta: About a 2-hour drive. **Great tip for this visit:** Ask your taxi to drop you off at the Ajanta View Point. Not only do you get a beautiful overview of the cliff and caves, but you can also walk down gently to the site. The descent is easy with stairs and paths, and you approach the site with stunning views. Cross the bridge, and you’re there (start from the end, as it’s less crowded: after crossing the bridge and paying at the ticket counter, turn left and go to the far end to begin your visit). The taxi waited for us at the "official" entrance after we finished exploring the caves.
Badami: To get to Badami, we took an early-morning flight from Aurangabad to Hubli with Indigo (scheduled takeoff at 6:20 AM...) to arrive in Hubli in the early afternoon and find a taxi to Badami. We found a taxi quickly at Hubli Airport. About 2.5 hours (3,400 INR). Hotel: KSTDC Hotel Mayura Chalukya (38 €/night): A state-run hotel that’s a bit dated, located 15 minutes from the center but quiet compared to the chaotic main street in Badami. Large room, a bit dark, slightly worn walls, rustic bathroom... The air conditioning is very noisy. The owner was very friendly and helped with transport. The staff was also very nice. The hotel restaurant is decent, which saves you from going back "into town." A bit pricey for the quality, but it’s peaceful... The visit to the sculpted caves is worth it, as is a walk around the lake. The short climb to the top of the hill from the museum is also worth it—you pass through small gorges. A relaxing atmosphere in these places.
Hampi: Trip from Badami to Hampi by taxi (3,500 INR) – 3 hours. Booked through the Badami hotel, as we couldn’t find taxis on the street or at reasonable prices... Accommodation: Thilak Home Stay (33 €/night): Located in Hampi Bazaar, a small guesthouse with 4 rooms. Simple room with two single beds and a nightstand. The owner was very helpful, making our stay easier with services like tuk-tuks for sightseeing, laundry, bus booking to Goa, and a tuk-tuk to Hospet. A bit pricey for the room quality, but recommended for the owner’s kindness. It was hard to find accommodation in Hampi Bazaar through booking platforms, as they all offer places outside the city, several kilometers away—which is a shame. But we realized you can find places directly on-site. **You must stay in Hampi Bazaar**—the atmosphere changes from morning to night (in the evening, around 9 PM, go into the courtyard of the main temple in Hampi Bazaar, which turns into a huge dormitory—it’s impressive...). Restaurant: Archana Roof Restaurant: Small restaurant on the 1st floor overlooking a banana field with the Hampi rocks in the background. Very friendly welcome, quiet, and excellent thalis. The Hampi site is in a magical natural setting among temples, pilgrims, ochre rocks, and rice fields. We did a one-day circuit with a tuk-tuk to visit the main sites (1,500 INR). We also rented a scooter on the other side of the river (to avoid a long detour from Hampi Bazaar) for a day trip around the area. Some places we visited: Anegondi village, Durga Temple, Hanuman Temple (go early—it’s a climb...), Sanapur Lake. The accommodations on the other side of the river, called "Hippie Island," have been completely destroyed.
Goa (Agonda Beach): Trip from Hampi to Agonda: Booked a sleeper bus with two beds! (1,300 INR/person). Departure at 9 PM from Hospet, theoretical arrival at 4 AM (for us, it was 6 AM) in Canacona, then a 20-minute tuk-tuk ride to Agonda. Comfortable bus with real berths, but the many speed bumps made sleep difficult... The train would have been much longer and more complicated to reach Agonda.
Agonda: Accommodation: New Common Home (35 €/night): Business-like welcome. Decent and fairly large room, rustic bathroom. Breakfast included in the price—it was okay. We only booked one night to choose accommodation afterward, right on the beach. But we didn’t account for the Indian national holiday at the end of the week—everything was fully booked... We found Saxony (44 €/night) at the far end of the beach (left when facing the sea), but only for 2 nights—after that, it was reserved... Decent room, average bathroom, but a beautiful terrace facing the sea. Then 2 nights at Agonda Holiday Home Stay (36 €/night), not on the beach: Very average, bathroom in poor condition, almost no view—but it was all that was left... Restaurant: The Rhino for dinner (not on the beach): Excellent tandoori, chicken tikka, and masala. Great value for money. Cool and friendly atmosphere. Agonda is a beautiful, long, quiet, and family-friendly beach for relaxing, with lovely walks to take. Beautiful sunset!
Mumbai: Trip from Agonda to Mumbai: Flight: We chose Vistara because the departure was in the late afternoon, while Indigo offered flights very early or very late. Bad choice... because this Vistara flight leaves from Mopa Airport, at the very north of Goa state. And from Agonda, it’s a 3-hour taxi ride... (3,700 INR...) **Always check which airport your flight leaves from to reach Mumbai!**
Mumbai: Accommodation: Broadway Hotel Bombay (39 €/night): Very well-located hotel in Colaba, on a street perpendicular to the busy main road. Ask for quiet rooms... Friendly, helpful, and accommodating staff. Very small room with a tiny window and little space to put bags or move around... Small but clean bathroom. Mumbai is expensive for accommodation, and cleanliness often leaves something to be desired... Restaurant: Delhi Darbar, very close to the hotel on the main street. Good, clean, not too noisy... and good value for money. Sightseeing: Mumbai is a bustling city, but the traffic is completely chaotic, and the horn often replaces the brake... The architecture is quite unique and worth a look, with some must-see visits: Crawford Market and its surroundings... Null Bazar and Chor Bazar, where poverty and dirt are quite present... Mani Bhavan: Gandhi’s house in Mumbai, with a very special atmosphere... Balbunath Temple, with its religious fervor. The beautiful Jain temple (Walkeshwar Mandir), where the atmosphere is very different from other temples and full of serenity. The Dhobi Ghats, the laundry district—very impressive. For a few hundred rupees, a "guide" will take you through these washhouses and thousands of clothes. Banganga Tank: A basin surrounded by ghats with a village-like (but quite poor) atmosphere, where Indians come to pray. The dabbawallahs: Their departure around 11 AM and the transport by bicycle of hundreds of lunchboxes from Churchgate Station. **Note:** It’s not easy to find them—we almost missed them, as it seems to be disappearing. They’re on the other side of the road where taxis usually drop you off for Churchgate Station, under some trees. They’re recognizable by their white attire and a crowd. Few passersby seemed to know about them... All these visits can be done easily by taking taxis, which are really cheap—**as long as they agree to use the meter.**
So here are some great tips to share, knowing that every trip is unique, and India remains a magnificent, often disconcerting, elusive country that challenges you. It’s unlike any other country we’ve visited but so fascinating... Good luck with your preparations, and if you need more info, don’t hesitate! I really regret that the new 2024/2025 South India GDR only includes Mumbai for Maharashtra and nothing else... and nothing on Karnataka or Goa. These states don’t seem to be selling points for the GDR anymore... Guy
Here’s a little recap of our 3-week trip to India (retired couple) in January 2024. This is our personal experience and how we felt at the time. This is the 7th time we’ve been to India, and after experiencing public transport day and night—and with age catching up—we opted for a more "chill" pace this time, prioritizing flights and taxis while slightly increasing our accommodation budget. Regarding that accommodation budget (double room), we chose a range between 30 and 40 €, and we didn’t really notice much difference compared to the lower range we used to book on previous trips (between 20 and 30 €). But prices have likely gone up since my last visit in 2018.
So here are some personal tips and opinions, good addresses, and others to avoid. Exchange rate: In January 2024, 100 rupees were worth about 1.12 euros (1 euro = 89 INR at exchange bureaus). To convert rupees to euros: X rupees divided by 89 = X euros. For simplicity, we divided the price in rupees by 100 and added about 10% to get the equivalent in euros.
Our itinerary: Mumbai/Aurangabad (Ellora and Ajanta) / Badami / Hampi / Goa (Agonda) / Mumbai Flight: With British Airways—very (too) short layover in London (2 hours in theory...) for the connection to Mumbai, but a 1-hour delay on the flight from CDG, so we had to rush in London with two shuttles to take and security to clear before reaching the departure gate. We had a 15-minute margin by speeding... same stress on the way back...
Mumbai: On the day we arrived in Mumbai, we took a flight to Aurangabad with Indigo. **Note:** Terminal change for this flight. Free buses connect T2 to T1. The flight was fine, even with a 2-hour delay...
Aurangabad: Accommodation: Hotel JP International (35 €/night): Large, "decorated" room with comfortable bedding. But the hotel is showing its age. The air conditioning is a bit noisy, and the faucets and shower have seen better days... Breakfast is included in the price with a buffet—it’s decent. You just have to ask for toast, jam, and eggs, as it’s mostly an Indian buffet... The rooftop restaurant is okay. The hotel is a bit pricey for what it is... The owner, a bit gruff at first, was helpful and assisted us with taxis for visiting the Ellora and Ajanta sites, as it’s hard to find taxis for those trips on the street—no travel agencies in this area. Restaurant: Le Great Sagar (on the main street): Close to the hotel, good food, and plenty of choices. Exchange: We struggled to exchange euros in Aurangabad. No banks exchange money (we tried five...). Only Thomas Cook does: Jalna Road near the Ramgiri Hotel.
Ellora: A magnificent site 25 km from Aurangabad. **Tip:** Arrive early (by 9 AM max) and visit the Kailasha Temple first—it’s the world’s largest monolithic structure—and it gets much busier later.
Ajanta: About a 2-hour drive. **Great tip for this visit:** Ask your taxi to drop you off at the Ajanta View Point. Not only do you get a beautiful overview of the cliff and caves, but you can also walk down gently to the site. The descent is easy with stairs and paths, and you approach the site with stunning views. Cross the bridge, and you’re there (start from the end, as it’s less crowded: after crossing the bridge and paying at the ticket counter, turn left and go to the far end to begin your visit). The taxi waited for us at the "official" entrance after we finished exploring the caves.
Badami: To get to Badami, we took an early-morning flight from Aurangabad to Hubli with Indigo (scheduled takeoff at 6:20 AM...) to arrive in Hubli in the early afternoon and find a taxi to Badami. We found a taxi quickly at Hubli Airport. About 2.5 hours (3,400 INR). Hotel: KSTDC Hotel Mayura Chalukya (38 €/night): A state-run hotel that’s a bit dated, located 15 minutes from the center but quiet compared to the chaotic main street in Badami. Large room, a bit dark, slightly worn walls, rustic bathroom... The air conditioning is very noisy. The owner was very friendly and helped with transport. The staff was also very nice. The hotel restaurant is decent, which saves you from going back "into town." A bit pricey for the quality, but it’s peaceful... The visit to the sculpted caves is worth it, as is a walk around the lake. The short climb to the top of the hill from the museum is also worth it—you pass through small gorges. A relaxing atmosphere in these places.
Hampi: Trip from Badami to Hampi by taxi (3,500 INR) – 3 hours. Booked through the Badami hotel, as we couldn’t find taxis on the street or at reasonable prices... Accommodation: Thilak Home Stay (33 €/night): Located in Hampi Bazaar, a small guesthouse with 4 rooms. Simple room with two single beds and a nightstand. The owner was very helpful, making our stay easier with services like tuk-tuks for sightseeing, laundry, bus booking to Goa, and a tuk-tuk to Hospet. A bit pricey for the room quality, but recommended for the owner’s kindness. It was hard to find accommodation in Hampi Bazaar through booking platforms, as they all offer places outside the city, several kilometers away—which is a shame. But we realized you can find places directly on-site. **You must stay in Hampi Bazaar**—the atmosphere changes from morning to night (in the evening, around 9 PM, go into the courtyard of the main temple in Hampi Bazaar, which turns into a huge dormitory—it’s impressive...). Restaurant: Archana Roof Restaurant: Small restaurant on the 1st floor overlooking a banana field with the Hampi rocks in the background. Very friendly welcome, quiet, and excellent thalis. The Hampi site is in a magical natural setting among temples, pilgrims, ochre rocks, and rice fields. We did a one-day circuit with a tuk-tuk to visit the main sites (1,500 INR). We also rented a scooter on the other side of the river (to avoid a long detour from Hampi Bazaar) for a day trip around the area. Some places we visited: Anegondi village, Durga Temple, Hanuman Temple (go early—it’s a climb...), Sanapur Lake. The accommodations on the other side of the river, called "Hippie Island," have been completely destroyed.
Goa (Agonda Beach): Trip from Hampi to Agonda: Booked a sleeper bus with two beds! (1,300 INR/person). Departure at 9 PM from Hospet, theoretical arrival at 4 AM (for us, it was 6 AM) in Canacona, then a 20-minute tuk-tuk ride to Agonda. Comfortable bus with real berths, but the many speed bumps made sleep difficult... The train would have been much longer and more complicated to reach Agonda.
Agonda: Accommodation: New Common Home (35 €/night): Business-like welcome. Decent and fairly large room, rustic bathroom. Breakfast included in the price—it was okay. We only booked one night to choose accommodation afterward, right on the beach. But we didn’t account for the Indian national holiday at the end of the week—everything was fully booked... We found Saxony (44 €/night) at the far end of the beach (left when facing the sea), but only for 2 nights—after that, it was reserved... Decent room, average bathroom, but a beautiful terrace facing the sea. Then 2 nights at Agonda Holiday Home Stay (36 €/night), not on the beach: Very average, bathroom in poor condition, almost no view—but it was all that was left... Restaurant: The Rhino for dinner (not on the beach): Excellent tandoori, chicken tikka, and masala. Great value for money. Cool and friendly atmosphere. Agonda is a beautiful, long, quiet, and family-friendly beach for relaxing, with lovely walks to take. Beautiful sunset!
Mumbai: Trip from Agonda to Mumbai: Flight: We chose Vistara because the departure was in the late afternoon, while Indigo offered flights very early or very late. Bad choice... because this Vistara flight leaves from Mopa Airport, at the very north of Goa state. And from Agonda, it’s a 3-hour taxi ride... (3,700 INR...) **Always check which airport your flight leaves from to reach Mumbai!**
Mumbai: Accommodation: Broadway Hotel Bombay (39 €/night): Very well-located hotel in Colaba, on a street perpendicular to the busy main road. Ask for quiet rooms... Friendly, helpful, and accommodating staff. Very small room with a tiny window and little space to put bags or move around... Small but clean bathroom. Mumbai is expensive for accommodation, and cleanliness often leaves something to be desired... Restaurant: Delhi Darbar, very close to the hotel on the main street. Good, clean, not too noisy... and good value for money. Sightseeing: Mumbai is a bustling city, but the traffic is completely chaotic, and the horn often replaces the brake... The architecture is quite unique and worth a look, with some must-see visits: Crawford Market and its surroundings... Null Bazar and Chor Bazar, where poverty and dirt are quite present... Mani Bhavan: Gandhi’s house in Mumbai, with a very special atmosphere... Balbunath Temple, with its religious fervor. The beautiful Jain temple (Walkeshwar Mandir), where the atmosphere is very different from other temples and full of serenity. The Dhobi Ghats, the laundry district—very impressive. For a few hundred rupees, a "guide" will take you through these washhouses and thousands of clothes. Banganga Tank: A basin surrounded by ghats with a village-like (but quite poor) atmosphere, where Indians come to pray. The dabbawallahs: Their departure around 11 AM and the transport by bicycle of hundreds of lunchboxes from Churchgate Station. **Note:** It’s not easy to find them—we almost missed them, as it seems to be disappearing. They’re on the other side of the road where taxis usually drop you off for Churchgate Station, under some trees. They’re recognizable by their white attire and a crowd. Few passersby seemed to know about them... All these visits can be done easily by taking taxis, which are really cheap—**as long as they agree to use the meter.**
So here are some great tips to share, knowing that every trip is unique, and India remains a magnificent, often disconcerting, elusive country that challenges you. It’s unlike any other country we’ve visited but so fascinating... Good luck with your preparations, and if you need more info, don’t hesitate! I really regret that the new 2024/2025 South India GDR only includes Mumbai for Maharashtra and nothing else... and nothing on Karnataka or Goa. These states don’t seem to be selling points for the GDR anymore... Guy
Bonsoir
Je pars à New Delhi chez un ami rencontrer lors de précédent voyage en Inde
Il marie son frère et j y suis invitée quel honneur Quel joie pour moi qui adore ce pays
Hors malgré l envellope j aimerais ramener un cadeau de france pour les mariés ainsi que pour mon ami et sa femme et surtout leur petite fille
Ils vivent bien mais ne sont pas fortuné non plus un peu comme moi lol
J aimerais avoir vos avis
Bonne soirée à tous
Bonjour,
Nous avons prévu un voyage en inde de la mi-octobre à mi-novembre. J'ai préparé un circuit et je voulais le valider ici sur le forum. C'est un voyage découverte pour l'essentiel et non pas spirituel de façon particulière:
Jour 1Delhi Jour 2Delhi Jour 3Delhi - Amritsar (Avion) Jour 4Amritsar Jour 5Amritsar - Katmandou (Avion) Jour 6Katmandou Jour 7Katmandou Jour 8 Katmandou - Delhi - Mandawa (Avion + Chauffeur et auto) Jour 9 Mandawa - Bikaner Jour 10Bikaner - Jaisalmer Jour 11Jaisalmer Jour 12 Desert Jour 13Desert - Jodpur Jour 14Jodpur Jour 15Jodpur - Ranakpur Jour 16Ranakpur - Udaipur Jour 17Udaipur Jour 18 Udaipur - Chittogarh - Bundi Jour 19Bundi - Jaipur Jour 20 Jaipur Jour 21Jaipur - fatehpur - agra Jour 22 Agra - Gwalior Jour 23Gwalior - Orchha Jour 24 Orchha - Khajuraho Jour 25 Khajuraho - Varanasi (Avion) Jour 26Varanasi Jour 27 Varanasi - Mumbai (Avion) Jour 28Mumbai Jour 29Mumbai
Le trajet sera fait en auto avec chauffeur
Je me demandais si c'était trop mais en même on voyage souvent à ce rythme. Concernant Katmandou, on pourrait le remplacer par Dharamsala mais on me dit que Katmandou est plus intéressant pour des visites.
J'attends vos commentaires
Jean
Nous avons prévu un voyage en inde de la mi-octobre à mi-novembre. J'ai préparé un circuit et je voulais le valider ici sur le forum. C'est un voyage découverte pour l'essentiel et non pas spirituel de façon particulière:
Jour 1Delhi Jour 2Delhi Jour 3Delhi - Amritsar (Avion) Jour 4Amritsar Jour 5Amritsar - Katmandou (Avion) Jour 6Katmandou Jour 7Katmandou Jour 8 Katmandou - Delhi - Mandawa (Avion + Chauffeur et auto) Jour 9 Mandawa - Bikaner Jour 10Bikaner - Jaisalmer Jour 11Jaisalmer Jour 12 Desert Jour 13Desert - Jodpur Jour 14Jodpur Jour 15Jodpur - Ranakpur Jour 16Ranakpur - Udaipur Jour 17Udaipur Jour 18 Udaipur - Chittogarh - Bundi Jour 19Bundi - Jaipur Jour 20 Jaipur Jour 21Jaipur - fatehpur - agra Jour 22 Agra - Gwalior Jour 23Gwalior - Orchha Jour 24 Orchha - Khajuraho Jour 25 Khajuraho - Varanasi (Avion) Jour 26Varanasi Jour 27 Varanasi - Mumbai (Avion) Jour 28Mumbai Jour 29Mumbai
Le trajet sera fait en auto avec chauffeur
Je me demandais si c'était trop mais en même on voyage souvent à ce rythme. Concernant Katmandou, on pourrait le remplacer par Dharamsala mais on me dit que Katmandou est plus intéressant pour des visites.
J'attends vos commentaires
Jean
Bonjour à tous,
Je prépare mon voyage au Gujarat en mars et suis à la recherche d'hôtel sympa à Junagadh.
J'y serai en pleine holi et préfère donc réserver avec un peu d'avance.
Maxi 2000Rs la nuit, merci de votre aide.
Indianement.
Jérôme
Lors d'un court séjour à Amritsar en Septembre dernier, je n'ai pu résister à l'envie d'aller voir la cérémonie de descente des drapeaux indiens et pakistanais communément appelée "Wagah border ceremony", Wagah étant le nom de la localité pakistanaise qui fait face à celle d'Attari côté indien.
Cette cérémonie martiale a lieu tous les jours en fin d'après-midi et elle est en soi un spectacle absolument unique et qu'il faut voir au moins une fois si vous êtes dans les parages d'Amritsar.
Lors de cette cérémonie toute militaire, les drapeaux des deux pays ennemis sont descendus simultanément selon un protocole particulier et bien huilé.
A cette occasion les militaires des forces de sécurité indiennes et pakistanaises se toisent du regard et adoptent des postures de défi visant à impressionner l'adversaire. Et que dire de leur pas martial qui rendrait ridicule le pas de l'oie d'un défilé de l'armée nord-coréenne !
Ce cérémonial déplace des foules considérables surtout côté indien et donne lieu à des manifestations patriotiques délirantes. Les gradins sont bondés comme dans un stade lors d'une finale de coupe du monde. Plus drôle : un militaire en treillis camouflage "chauffe la salle" encouragent les spectateurs à crier et agiter les drapeaux indiens.
Conseils pratiques : partir d'Amritsar vers 15h30 de manière à être dans les premiers à arriver. Vous doublerez sur la route en chemin des centaines et des centaines de rickshaws bondés dont les passagers brandissent petits et grands drapeaux.
Les étrangers bénéficient d'un traitement de faveur à l'arrivée et sont dirigés par un accès particulier vers les tribunes qui leur sont réservées (les mieux placées avec celles des VIP !)
Dans les gradins, vous serez placés par un militaire (hors de question de demander un autre emplacement...).
Quand la fin de la cérémonie se profile, n'hésitez pas à quitter la tribune en peu en avance pour éviter l'énorme foule qui va sortir peu après. Cela vous permettra de rejoindre votre taxi et quitter les lieux sans avoir à supporter l'immense bouchon qui se forme à la sortie.
Franchement, cette cérémonie vaut le déplacement. Il faut la voir comme un show à la sauce militaire.
Quelques clichés pour illustrer ce propos.
Mi-Septembre, pour notre quatrième voyage en Inde, après le Rajasthan, le Tamil Nadu, Kerala et le Gujarat, nous avons décidé de changer radicalement d’ambiance en nous rendant dans l’Himachal Pradesh dans l’Himalaya indien. Nous avons ciblé plus particulièrement un lieu hors des sentiers battus et méconnu : la vallée de Spiti frontalière du Tibet dont l’altitude avoisine ou dépasse les 4000 mètres…
Quel choc ! Cela n’avait plus rien à voir avec l’Inde que nous connaissions. Ici, nous avons découvert une Inde totalement différente tant sur le plan des paysages, de la population, de l’habitat et bien sur de la religion, le bouddhisme ayant totalement remplacé l’hindouisme…
Nous sommes restés littéralement ébahis devant les paysages grandioses et uniques de la Spiti Valley : montagnes totalement dénudées ou le minéral a pris la place de la végétation (la Spiti valley est classée parmi les « desert mountains»), formations géologiques inouïes provoquées par l’érosion conjuguée aux forces tectoniques gigantesques ayant contribuées à la formation de la chaine himalayenne.
Cette vallée désertique n’en reste pas moins habitée et nous avons traversé ces villages aux maisons à l’architecture tibétaine si particulière. Nous découvrons ainsi les stupas – blancs ou multicolores-, les drapeaux de prière par milliers, les monastères bouddhistes perchés sur le sommet des collines, les yaks, … Nous faisons connaissance avec la population « Spiti » semblable aux Tibétains, du fait de la proximité du Tibet chinois et dont la langue très similaire appartient à la famille tibeto-birmane.
Ce fut aussi notre première expérience de la haute montagne. Vivant au niveau de la mer, notre organisme n’était bien sur pas habitué à des altitudes moyennes de 4000 m et nous appréhendions quelque peu cet aspect de notre voyage. Afin de minimiser au maximum les effets du mal des montagnes, nous avons choisi de partir de Shimla situé à environ 2000 m d’altitude et de nous diriger vers l’est. Cet itinéraire a pour avantage de monter progressivement ce qui laisse le temps à notre organisme de s’habituer. Nous n’avons que très peu ressenti ce mal, juste quelques maux de têtes passagers mais rien d’autre. Si vous envisagez de visiter la vallée de Spiti, cette voie est à conseiller plutôt que celle passant par le nord (Manali puis le col de Rohtang La et celui de Kunzum La à 4590 m) car le changement d’altitude trop rapide sur une courte durée (près de 2000 m de dénivelé en quelques heures !) augmente considérablement le risque de souffrir du mal des montagnes.
En fin de parcours, au nord de la vallée de Spiti et avant de redescendre vers le col de Rohtang La et la ville de Manali, le passage du col de Kunzum La est un moment mémorable du voyage tout comme le trajet sur une piste ressemblant par moment plus au lit d’une rivière qu’à une route carrossable ! Les éboulements sont légion et la piste est très souvent rendue impraticable.
Nous n’avons rencontré que très peu de touristes dont la quasi-totalité est indienne, consistant pour la plupart en groupes de motards voyageant en Royal Enfield.
Pour se rendre dans la vallée de Spiti via Shimla, les étrangers doivent obtenir un permis qui s’obtient soit à Shimla soit à Reckong Peo. Il est plutôt conseillé de se rendre au bureau de Reckong Peo car il y a peu de monde et ils sont équipés d’une webcam qui évite d’avoir à fournir des photos papier. L’obtention de ce permis est supposée être gratuite mais comme on doit impérativement passer par un agent de voyage local pour constituer le dossier, il faut s’acquitter de 400 INR pour sa prestation. Ce permis sera à présenter au check point militaire un peu plus loin sur la route menant à la vallée de Spiti. (vous trouverez toutes les explications en anglais ici : https://devilonwheels.com/inner-line-permits-for-kinnaur-lahaul-spiti-valley/ - Ce site est une mine d’informations pour préparer le voyage dans la région du Kinnaur et la vallée de Spiti.
La meilleure période pour s'y rendre est entre Juillet et Septembre. Dès le début du mois d'Octobre, les premières neiges font leur apparition et la route risque d'être coupée par endroit, notamment au col de Kunzum La. Mi-Septembre, nous avons eu un temps radieux et des températures agréables en journée mais très fraiches la nuit (5° C).
Bonjour à tous,
Je serai en Inde du 24 décembre 2019 au 21 janvier 2020 avec mon conjoint. Nous passerons une quinzaine de jours dans la région du Kerala pour débuter notre aventure. Par la suite, je pensais me rendre dans certaines villes du Rajastan. J'ai fait une découverte en faisant des recherches et la région du Madhya Pradesh me semble vraiment intéressante. Il y a par contre très peu de blog ou d'informations sur ce secteur.
Considérant que nous prendrions un vol de Cochin à Bhiopal et que je veux remonter vers Agra, les villes sur notre parcours seraient les suivantes:
-Bhiopal -Sanchi -Orchha -Shiupuri -Gwalior
Je sais qu'il y a des temples à voir et tout ça. J'aimerais avoir de l'information générale sur cette région. Comment s'y sent-on ? Est-ce facile d'accès pour les déplacements ? Avez-vous des coups de coeur ou des découvertes sur le trajet que j'ai choisi ? Des suggestions d'hébergement ?
Merci de partager avec moi :)
Je serai en Inde du 24 décembre 2019 au 21 janvier 2020 avec mon conjoint. Nous passerons une quinzaine de jours dans la région du Kerala pour débuter notre aventure. Par la suite, je pensais me rendre dans certaines villes du Rajastan. J'ai fait une découverte en faisant des recherches et la région du Madhya Pradesh me semble vraiment intéressante. Il y a par contre très peu de blog ou d'informations sur ce secteur.
Considérant que nous prendrions un vol de Cochin à Bhiopal et que je veux remonter vers Agra, les villes sur notre parcours seraient les suivantes:
-Bhiopal -Sanchi -Orchha -Shiupuri -Gwalior
Je sais qu'il y a des temples à voir et tout ça. J'aimerais avoir de l'information générale sur cette région. Comment s'y sent-on ? Est-ce facile d'accès pour les déplacements ? Avez-vous des coups de coeur ou des découvertes sur le trajet que j'ai choisi ? Des suggestions d'hébergement ?
Merci de partager avec moi :)
Hello tout le monde ,
Des âmes charitables seraient prêtes à partager leur bon plan logement à Rameswaram ? J'y serais d'ici une semaine et je ne me suis pas renseigner sur les bonnes adresses pour y dormir.
Merci pour votre aide !
Des âmes charitables seraient prêtes à partager leur bon plan logement à Rameswaram ? J'y serais d'ici une semaine et je ne me suis pas renseigner sur les bonnes adresses pour y dormir.
Merci pour votre aide !
Bonsoir Bonsoir,
je pars en Inde fin novembre pour un peu plus de trois mois :) ce sera mon deuxième voyage en Asie j'ai déjà été en Thaïlande mais j'ai bien conscience que l'Inde et le Thaïlande sont des pays très différents.
Je me renseigne à fond sur les forums pour trouver un maximum d'informations, et j'essaye aussi surtout de préparer mon budget approximatif pour mon voyage! Au niveau des guest house c'est facile de savoir le montant et de dormir pour pas très cher mais la ou j'ai du mal c'est savoir quels sont les transports à favoriser: par exemple pour aller d'un aéroport à ma guest house c'est mieux si je prends un bus, ou un rickshaw ? Combien coûte une course moyenne en rickshaw car sur pleins de sites il est dit de négocier sa course mais je ne sais même pas les prix de base pour les étrangers...
Sinon pour les longues distances je vais prendre les trains j'ai trouvé comment réserver en ligne à l'avance, mais d'ailleurs est ce que c'est vraiment nécessaire de réserver à l'avance? Les trains fonctionnent bien ou est-ce vraiment chaotique aux niveaux des horaires?
Voilà si quelqu'un est allé en Inde il y a peu de temps et peut m'aider sur les prix des transports, et les transports à favoriser, cela m'aiderait bien, et ce serait très cool de votre part :)
bonne et douce soirée à tout le monde
Eléonore
je pars en Inde fin novembre pour un peu plus de trois mois :) ce sera mon deuxième voyage en Asie j'ai déjà été en Thaïlande mais j'ai bien conscience que l'Inde et le Thaïlande sont des pays très différents.
Je me renseigne à fond sur les forums pour trouver un maximum d'informations, et j'essaye aussi surtout de préparer mon budget approximatif pour mon voyage! Au niveau des guest house c'est facile de savoir le montant et de dormir pour pas très cher mais la ou j'ai du mal c'est savoir quels sont les transports à favoriser: par exemple pour aller d'un aéroport à ma guest house c'est mieux si je prends un bus, ou un rickshaw ? Combien coûte une course moyenne en rickshaw car sur pleins de sites il est dit de négocier sa course mais je ne sais même pas les prix de base pour les étrangers...
Sinon pour les longues distances je vais prendre les trains j'ai trouvé comment réserver en ligne à l'avance, mais d'ailleurs est ce que c'est vraiment nécessaire de réserver à l'avance? Les trains fonctionnent bien ou est-ce vraiment chaotique aux niveaux des horaires?
Voilà si quelqu'un est allé en Inde il y a peu de temps et peut m'aider sur les prix des transports, et les transports à favoriser, cela m'aiderait bien, et ce serait très cool de votre part :)
bonne et douce soirée à tout le monde
Eléonore
Bonjour,
Je prépare mon Xème voyage, (pour janvier/février/mars dans le sud de l'Inde) et comme d'habitude, je cherche entre autre les hotels sur Tripadvisor. Et là depuis 1 mois et demi que je regarde, je suis confrontée pour la 1ère fois à une flambée des prix inimaginable qui m'inquiète un peu. Genre une nuit à 300 ou 400 euros au lieu 25 en temps normal. Je n'ai jamais vu ça sur aucune destination !
La 1ère fois, je me suis dit que c'était un bug du site, mais je vois que cela persiste ! Et même dans les terres, pas seulement en bord de mer.
Est ce que je dois m'inquiéter ? Je ne voudrais pas réserver dans des bouibouis : seuls hotels qui restent abordables dans beaucoup de villes.
Faut-il vraiment réserver pour cette période ?
Merci de votre aide !
Nous souhaitons aller 5 jours à Kolkota.
D'habitude je passe environ 3 nuits ou 4 dans les lieux que je visite.
Pensez vous que 5 jours ce soit trop ?
Bon quelquefois certains lieux font exception comme dans le Kerala où Kumily est devenue ma base dans le sud, ma deuxième maison ...et une petite écolecprès de Kodaikanal aussi.
