A Dream to Fulfill in Tibet
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MI
Hello,

I’m 64 years old, I love traveling and discovering how other people live. I enjoy walking, and my next goal—something I’ve had in mind for 20 years—is to go to Tibet. I want to walk, but without any competitive aim, just to explore and connect with the people there, whom I adore! Performance isn’t my interest; my only goal is to SHARE and EXCHANGE!!!

I’d like to go from village to village without pushing myself in terms of kilometers or time. My aim is simply to walk, discover new things, and above all, share this richness—discover and share!!

Can anyone give me advice on a simple trip to meet these people I’m so eager to discover?

I’m planning to travel at the end of 2016, but I need information about the best seasons to visit this world that lives in near-complete autarky.

Thanks to all of you,

Mireille
Mireille
MA Marathon Globetrotter ·
Hello,

I'm 64 years old, I love traveling and discovering people who live differently. I enjoy walking and have set myself a new goal, one that's been on my mind for 20 years: to go to Tibet, to walk without any competitive aim, and to discover the people I adore! Without performance—it’s not my interest. My only interest is to SHARE and EXCHANGE!!!

I want to go from village to village without necessarily covering impressive distances or times. My goal is to walk, discover something new, and above all, share this richness—discover and share!!

Who can give me information about a simple trip to meet these people I’m eager to discover?

My trip would be at the end of 2016, but I need info about the best seasons to approach this world that lives in near-complete autarky.

Thank you all,

Mireille

Hello,

Your sources of information seem to be from 20 years ago, or even older (a world in near-complete autarky?). I’d advise you to start by researching the "Tibet Permit."
SI Sitik Veteran ·
The Autonomous Region of Tibet requires obtaining a permit. There’s also the Tibetan areas of Sichuan or Yunnan where you can travel without a permit, but some roads may be closed to tourists by the authorities (don’t ask me why there). This Tibet is already a great introduction to Tibetan culture. However, traveling from village to village usually means taking a bus or a van. The villages are far apart from each other—it’s the mountains. These Tibetan areas have changed a lot in the last five years. Don’t idealize it too much; it’s the end of the world, but it’s connected. A beautiful route from Kangding to Yushu via Tagong. Best done right after the Chinese holidays in October (they end around the 10th) until the end of November. If it’s your first Chinese visa application, you’ll likely only get 30 days. Traveling by vehicle requires patience. It’s not easy unless you speak Chinese or Tibetan. Forget about English—it’s rarely spoken. From Kangding to Yushu, you’ll have time, but you won’t be able to do much more unless you rush. I did part of this route at the end of 2015. I came back enchanted.
MA Marathon Globetrotter ·
There’s also the Tibet region in Sichuan or Yunnan where you can travel without a permit, but some roads may be closed to tourists by the authorities (don’t ask me why, though)

Because there was a skirmish or politically suspicious unrest, and the Chinese authorities don’t want witnesses or information to spread. It happens in the rest of China too.
MI Mireillo ·
No, it’s not because I’ve dreamed of going to Tibet for 20 years that I’m unaware of everything about Tibet and the challenges of exploring it!! I’ve been tracking the requirements, the restrictions, and the best itineraries for 20 years. I’ve been passionate about Tibet forever—it’s only finances that have delayed this dream from coming true!! I know what I want to do, and I also know my limits. Everyone knows the limits of their own ambitions. This site is for helping others, not putting them down.

A little humility—those seasoned travelers who downplay the ambitions of other passionate people.
Mireille
MI Mireillo ·
Thanks for your message!

Once I’ve finalized my plans, I’ll get back to you—you seem to know this part of the world well, and you’re humble enough to share info, unlike those jaded folks who think they know everything, put you down, and don’t help at all because they keep all the tips to themselves.

Total idiots!!

Thanks again, and see you soon!

Mireille
Mireille
SI Sitik Veteran ·
No worries, I’ll give you the info I have. I should mention that I traveled as a couple, without an agency. It can be a bit disorienting at times, but you adapt. The easiest way is to arrive via Chengdu. It’s not such an unpleasant city after all.

Of course, China is far away, but this destination isn’t overly expensive. Once there, I used public transport, buses, and vans—all very affordable. Eating out is cheap too. As for hotels, there’s a wide choice in cities, but fewer options in small towns, depending on the season. They’re never too pricey, though sometimes not very comfortable. If you’re a walker, you’ll manage just fine. Plus, China is a very safe country for tourists.

I was hoping to go back in October, but my husband has a health issue that will keep us in France this year.

Happy planning!
MA Marathon Globetrotter ·
No, it's not because I've dreamed of going to Tibet for 20 years that I'm unaware of everything about Tibet and the challenges of discovering it!! I've been following the requirements, the constraints, and the best routes for 20 years. I've been passionate about Tibet forever—it's only finances that have delayed this dream from coming true!! I know what I want to do, and I also know my limits. Everyone knows the limits of their own ambitions. This site is for helping others, not putting them down.

A little humility—great travelers shouldn’t minimize the ambitions of other passionate people.

Hello,

Duly noted, and my apologies if I hurt you. (Too many forum users show they haven’t bothered to read the information available online.)

As Sitik already mentioned, the population density is very low in Greater Tibet (TAR and adjacent provinces), so the distances between settlements are very long. On foot, you’d need to be very self-sufficient.
KA Kaki73 ·
Hi there, I see you know Tibet well—maybe you could shed some light for me? I’ve had a plan for a month now to travel to Tibet via China, taking the train from Xining to Lhasa. I’m in the process of contacting agencies to get the Tibetan permit, and after that, I’ll be able to apply for the Chinese visa and buy my flight tickets.

I just want to go through an agency to handle my itinerary and then find accommodation on my own (there are two of us). It seems like agencies only offer packages that include lodging. I’m realizing I need to stay very patient and not get discouraged!

How did you do it, and do you have any reliable and affordable agencies to recommend?

Thanks for your reply, Catherine.
MI Mireillo ·
Good evening

I know where to go and what to do, but I haven’t yet figured out how to do it—neither practically nor financially.

I think it’d be better to get this info from people who’ve recently returned and done the same journey you’re planning. For now, I’m still in the rough-estimate stage. If you live near Savoie, there’s a travel festival in Albertville in October, running for three days. There, you’ll meet seasoned travelers who film and/or write about their journeys around the world, with conferences and meet-ups that are super enriching.

There are also a few long-haul travel professionals who respect travelers’ wishes and advise on tailor-made itineraries—far from tourist trails, more about meeting locals and immersing yourself in their daily life, discovering the most beautiful spots both environmentally and humanly. They organize trips with a great mindset; their goal is the enrichment the journey will bring you, not just financial gain for themselves. Plus, the one I met knows Tibet really well—he’s mainly focused on that destination. But he only organizes this expedition once or twice a year. I’ve got his card somewhere, but I need to dig it out!! If your trip is after October, I can grab a business card for you and pass on his details.

I’m not much help yet, but I hope you find the info you need to plan this trip as best as possible. Safe travels…!!🏴‍☠️

Mireille
Mireille
SI Sitik Veteran ·
No, I don’t know Tibet well. What I do know is just a small part, far from the tourist hordes, and it’s the kind you can explore without a permit. For me, there’s no way I’d join a pre-packaged group ready to swallow everything whole and usually rushing around, when Tibet is a place of calm. Tibet isn’t what the media portrays, nor is it just the legend of a land of meditation. While Buddhism is very present everywhere, Tibet is above all a land of vast spaces inhabited by welcoming but sparse populations, nestled between hills that reach nearly 4,000 meters. Life is tough at that altitude. Few residents gathered in scattered villages. Distances are long. You’ve got to love the mountains. Most of all, you need patience and time. A lot of patience. Negotiating with a taxi or a van can take an hour. But when things finally come together, it all happens quickly—like magic, you jump from one taxi to another van or vice versa, depending on the destination. Sorry, but I always travel without an agency. Sometimes with a driver, but never for more than two or three days. Besides, my budget is limited, and I travel on the cheap.
KA Kaki73 ·
Good evening,

I know where to go and what to do, but I haven’t yet figured out how to do it—neither practically nor financially.

I think it’d be better to get this info from people who’ve recently returned and done the same journey you’re planning. For now, I’m still in the rough-estimate stage. If you live near Savoie, there’s the Travel Festival in Albertville in October—it runs for three days. There, you can meet seasoned travelers who film and/or write about their journeys around the world. They hold conferences and meet-ups that are really enriching.

There are also a few long-haul travel professionals who respect travelers’ wishes and advise on tailor-made itineraries—far from tourist trails, more about meeting locals and immersing yourself in their daily life. They also focus on discovering the most beautiful environmental and human experiences. They organize trips with a great mindset; their goal is the enrichment the trip will bring you, not just making money. Plus, the one I met knows Tibet really well—it’s his main destination. But he only organizes this expedition once or twice a year. I have his card somewhere, but I need to dig it out!! If your trip happens after October, I can grab a business card for you and pass on his details.

I’m not much help yet, but I hope you find the info you need to plan this trip as best as possible. Safe travels!…!!🏴‍☠️

Mireille

Hi Mireille, Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Of course, I know about the Grand Bivouac—I’m only 45 minutes from Albertville—but I’m usually traveling around that time. What’s unusual about Tibet is that I’m not used to going through an agency, but this time, I don’t have a choice. I’ve already gotten three responses from agencies in English, and I need to seriously look into them. If this trip happens—and I really hope it does—I’ll be sure to share my experience with you. Catherine.
KA Kaki73 ·
Hi Zoé, thanks so much for replying! I thought it was essential to go through an agency, at least for Lhasa and the surrounding area. Which part did you visit to be able to travel alone—in eastern or western Tibet? How do you communicate with Tibetans?

I usually choose my trips/mountains (I live in the Alps), and I love getting off the beaten path. Since my friend and I will be arriving from China, taking the Xining-Lhasa train, we’re required to get the Tibetan permit for our Chinese visa, and for that, we have to go through an agency, right?

Is it easier to go via Nepal? Best regards, Catherine.
SI Sitik Veteran ·
For the Xining-Lhasa part, it's better to go through China. You absolutely need an agency. One of my virtual acquaintances managed to do Kunming-Deqen-Lhasa-Xining. A fabulous trip but very expensive. She didn’t share the agency’s name since I didn’t ask. Lots of kilometers. According to her account, the Deqen-Lhasa stretch was the most interesting. After that, she took the train to Xining.

I know a bit about the Tibetan parts of Sichuan and Yunnan.

In Xining as well as in Lhasa, you’ll find people who speak English. Otherwise, you just communicate as best you can. A smile often smooths things over.
DA Dalailama Regular ·
Hi, have you been to Tibet?

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