Adresse fiscale pour voyages longues durées (+1an)
by YvesDeToulon
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour 🙂
je suis un français de 54 ans en pré-retraite et j'ai choisi de voyager pour l'instant.
en tant que rentier, je paye mes impôts et je trouve cela normal.
mon problème est celui-ci:
j'ai tout quitté en france, je ne possède rien.
pour les impôts il me faut, malheureusement, une adresse en france.
je n'aime pas être dépendant de quelqu'un mais cette fois là, j'ai été bloqué... j'ai dû demander à des amis s'ils pouvaient me 'prêter' leur adresse. ils m'ont répondu que oui et, il y a une semaine, j'ai reçu un courrier de leurs part, me disant que leur taxe d'habitation avait augmenté parce que j'étais 'hébergé' chez eux. évidemment j'ai de suite fait un virement pour leur rembourser la somme qu'ils ont payé en plus MAIS, mon problème est que ce n'est absolument pas normal... je ne dois pas cette somme, et eux encore moins bien sûre, puisque je voyage depuis 2 ans.
après plusieurs courriers aux impôts, on tourne en rond, ils se renvoient l’ascenseur sans cesse (le service normal et Le Service des Impôts des Particuliers Non Résidents). apparemment, pas de solution pour mon cas que d'avoir une adresse en france... chose que je ne souhaite pas puisque je n'y suis plus !
j'ai ce problème parce que je passe d'un pays à un autre et que, pour l'instant, je ne suis pas résident d'un pays étranger. par exemple, un ami dans la même situation que moi et qui est déclaré en thaïlande, n'a pas du tout ce problème.
quelqu'un connait-il une autre personne dans le même cas que moi et qui a résolu le problème SANS dépendre d'une adresse 'fictive' et gêner quelqu'un d'autre ? je ne veux surtout pas être 'assisté' mais trouver un moyen officiel, légal et où je me débrouille seul.
merci à tous
bonne journée 😏
yves
slt
je suis entrain effectivement de regarder à faire cela mais .. au costa rica où je suis actuellement
🙂
Bonjour Yves.....c'est Yves
Il me semble que la loi 69-3 article 7 du 3 janvier 1969 est faite pour toi !
c'est celle qui s'applique aux "SDF" en permettant de solliciter un rattachement de commune mais sans aucun justificatif
il faudra (je crois) demander une autorisation a la mairie de ton choix, qui devient ton adresse legale (ou son service social parfois)...ca va les changer des gens du voyage, c'est sur !
Bon courage et bonne route
Yves
Bonjour Yves
je suis moi même dans une situation de voyage et vient de passer 10 mois au mali et 1 an a madagascar pour de l'humanitaire en tant qu'indépendante changeant de lieux d'associations de régions bref pas trés pratique pour le courrier ces deux fois là j'ai des amis qui se sont chargés des courriers car j'avais opté pour un transfert (depuis mon adresse de domicile principal que j'avais encore)
par contre cette fois ci je dois aller en amérique du sud pour plusieurs mois et comme depuis quelques jours j'ai vendu ma maison il me semble que la solution est de passer par le courrier des voyageurs vous trouverez leur site sur internet
www.courrier-du-voyageur.com/
ça laisse une indépendance totale sans avoir besoin de qui que ce soit ils s'occupent aussi des recommandés
Pour ma part j'ai déjà changé mon adresse de courriers réguliers non importants afin qu'ils arrivent chez des amis donc cela laisse peu de courrier vers "courrier du voyageur"
cordialement Mary-jo
je suis moi même dans une situation de voyage et vient de passer 10 mois au mali et 1 an a madagascar pour de l'humanitaire en tant qu'indépendante changeant de lieux d'associations de régions bref pas trés pratique pour le courrier ces deux fois là j'ai des amis qui se sont chargés des courriers car j'avais opté pour un transfert (depuis mon adresse de domicile principal que j'avais encore)
par contre cette fois ci je dois aller en amérique du sud pour plusieurs mois et comme depuis quelques jours j'ai vendu ma maison il me semble que la solution est de passer par le courrier des voyageurs vous trouverez leur site sur internet
www.courrier-du-voyageur.com/
ça laisse une indépendance totale sans avoir besoin de qui que ce soit ils s'occupent aussi des recommandés
Pour ma part j'ai déjà changé mon adresse de courriers réguliers non importants afin qu'ils arrivent chez des amis donc cela laisse peu de courrier vers "courrier du voyageur"
cordialement Mary-jo
J'ai eu le même problème avec mon fils, je l'ai domicilié chez moi et du coup j'ai ma taxe d'habitation qui a augmenté, je n'ai toujours pas pu régler l'histoire avec les impôts et j'ai laisser tomber, je pense que dans ce cas là il faut aller voir le service
des impôts et expliquer le cas il doit bien y avoir des solutions.
Je ne savais pas qu'il fallait absolument une adresse en france quand on s'expatrait.
Je pense que dans ce cas là, il vaut mieux gruger et te faire enregistrer dans un pays quelquonque.
Je pense que dans ce cas là, il vaut mieux gruger et te faire enregistrer dans un pays quelquonque.
Ce n'est pas quand on s'expatrie, dans ce cas on a une adresse fixe c'est seulement quand on part dans un long voyage genre tour du monde. Si on a des biens en France ou des revenus autres il faut bien payer les impôts donc une adresse fiscale en France puisque pas de domicile fixe.
Si on a aucun revenu pas de problème.
Mais au retour en France s'il n'y a pas eu de déclaration pendant plusieurs années il faut justifier, il est préférable de voir
tout ça avant le départ, ou bien faire des déclarations mais en mettant des revenus à Zéro, avec internet maintenant c'est facile.
De ce que je savais, il suffisait de demander un quitus fiscal et pour ceux qui ont des placements en france, les prélevements libératoires s'appliquaient car pour le reste, plus d'impots car on est plus résident fiscal français.
Comme quoi, j'en apprends une.
Comme quoi, j'en apprends une.
bonjour à tous et merci pour vos réponses.
pour le courrier du voyageur, ce n'est pas du tout ce que je cherche puisque je ne reçois plus de courrier. mon problème est juste pour les impôts.
apparemment trop compliqué de régler ce problème de l.étranger, pour instant, j ai tout simplement prévu et mis de côté l.argent qui sera injustement demandé à mes amis pour m.avoir, soit disant, hébergé !!! donc c du vol autorise
Mais tu as encore des ressources financières ( perception de loyers, produits financiers en france? Quand on pars, je me renseigne aussi car j'ai une grande envie de me barrer aussi avec ma compagne, notre avocat nous a conseillé de tout vendre et de clôturer tous nos compte en France.
bonjour à tous et merci pour vos réponses. pour le courrier du voyageur, ce n'est pas du tout ce que je cherche puisque je ne reçois plus de courrier. mon problème est juste pour les impôts. apparemment trop compliqué de régler ce problème de l.étranger, pour instant, j ai tout simplement prévu et mis de côté l.argent qui sera injustement demandé à mes amis pour m.avoir, soit disant, hébergé !!! donc c du vol autorise
bonjour à tous et merci pour vos réponses. pour le courrier du voyageur, ce n'est pas du tout ce que je cherche puisque je ne reçois plus de courrier. mon problème est juste pour les impôts. apparemment trop compliqué de régler ce problème de l.étranger, pour instant, j ai tout simplement prévu et mis de côté l.argent qui sera injustement demandé à mes amis pour m.avoir, soit disant, hébergé !!! donc c du vol autorise
Le mieux c'est tout faire par internet puisque tu peux faire ta déclaration et recevoir ton avis d'imposition sur internet, c'est surtout pour l'année précédant ton départ par exemple cette année c'est pour les impôts 2013, après si tu n'as plus de revenus
en France tu t'en fiches.
Le mieux est quand même d'aller aux impôts et leur demander comment faire pour être en règle car si tu reviens en France il ne faut pas que tu sois embêté.
bonjour à tous
alors oui, j'ai encore des revenus en france puisque je suis en pré-retraite
et oui, je fais tout par internet
MAIS le seul hic, encore une fois, c juste que je suis obligé de me déclarer quelque part en france, chose qui en pratique est fausse puisque en sepembre ça fera 3 ans que je suis en voyage. ET donc, ça fait augmenter les impots locaux de mes amis, sans aucune raison. c ça qui me met un peu en colère !!
donc, g déjà mis de côté l'argent pour leur rembourser le surplus, mais c de l'argent qui part injustement !!!
à part c petit problème tout se règle bien par internet :)
bonjour à tous
être imposé sur mes revenus, ne me dérange pas, c mon devoir comme tout à chacun
mais payer une somme qui n'est absolument pas justifiée, ça me dérange beaucoup.
et oui, avant ce 01/01, je suis allé à mon ambassade, au costa rica, et je me suis fait enregistrer comme français résident à l'étranger. je vais déclarer mes impots au services des français résidents à l'étranger et je vais donner mon numéro d'enregistrement, avec tout cela, ça devrait changer les choses :)
pas besoin d'enregistrement fictif puisque mon cas est réel, j'habite bien à l'étranger MAIS sans être résident pour l'instant, c'est ça qui ne plait pas !!
:)
Pourquoi tu ne liquides pas tout ce que tu as en France? Comme cela tu es tranquille. Et prendre un statut résident dans un pays oú tu n'es plus imposé, c'est possible.
mais c'est exactement ce que j'ai fait il y a bientôt 3 ans, je n'ai absolument plus rien en france. je reçois seulement ma paye, de pré-retraité....
:)
bonne journée à tous
ps: je suis entrain de me faire un trip au nicaragua... je conseille à ceux qui n'ont pas trop d'argent de faire ce pays pas chère du tout et avec, encore, des tribus à voir du côté de Bluefields.... du réel à pas chère !!
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There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale







