Cool ! Pas de problème, on ira cueillir des fleurs et chasser les suricates ensemble !
Normalement j'aurai vu plein de suricates près de oudtshoorn, mais pourquoi pas continuer sur ma lancée.
Si on cueille les fleurs, il n'en restera plus pour que les autres puissent les apprécier. Tu tut, pas de cueillette, juste de magnifiques photos à prendre.
Il faudra juste que tu me donnes tes dates pour que je sache quand prévoir d'être la-bas. C'est ça la flexibilité!!!
J'avais noté pour Boulwai, j'ai bien fait gaffe de caler mes dates au moins 1 an après le passage de sa horde...
Alors là, je crais que ses prochains objectifs ne soient justement le botswana et ses parcs. Fais gaffe!
C'est génial, car je me demandais une fois à Prince albert, s'il faudrait que je prenne la même route pour rentrer.
J'ai vu sur google map que la boucle complète( outdshoorn, prince albert, klaarstroom, de rust, outdshoorn) peut être faite en 3h20 sans les arrêts, ce qui veut dire que je peux prévoir juste une journée pour cela en prenant mon temps.
Avec 3 nuits à outdshoorn cela serait suffisant: 1 journée pour les congo caves et le parc de suricates, l'autre pour la boucle. Je pourrais aller voir les autruches, le jour de notre arrivée.
Y -a-t-il autre chose que j'aurais oublié?
Aurais-tu un hébergement à me recommander? J'en avais repérer un tenu par des français.
J'ai décrit cette étape dans mon dernier carnet. Il n'est pas nécessaire d'avoir un 4X4 surtout dans le sens Oudtshoorn-Sommet.
Je vais jeter un coup d'oeil à ton dernier carnet.
Es-tu sure que même en hiver il ne faut pas de 4x4 pour le swaterberg pass et la descente vers Prince albert?
Pour le moment, j'envisage 2 circuits:
-le premier qui part de johannesburg, traverse le Lesotho, sani pass enneigé j'espère, puis remonte de durban, vers st lucia, swaziland et kruger pour revenir vers johannesburg. (+ou- 15 jours)
- le 2ème qui partirait de cape town (incursion jusqu'à oudtshoorn, retour sur cape town, et direction le KTP, avec passage par le riemvasmaak, petit tour en Namibie (fish river, sesriem) puis redescente vers le namaqualand en fleur j'espère, en passant par richtersveld, et retour vers cape town pour prendre l'avion. (environ +ou- 15 jours)
J'ai fini par accepter l'idée qu'il va falloir faire 2 voyages. snif!
Ps Boul: je continue de parasiter ton post! Sorry!
Sérieusement il faudrait vraiment un manque de bol pour y avoir de la neige...
Une grosse pluie c'est plus plausible mais normalement, non.
On n'avait pas de 4x4 quand on a fait cette route mais un SUV. On a croisé beaucoup de voitures citadines...et pas une seule en difficulté...
En ce qui concerne Sani Pass, je me souviens avoir lu un bouquin sud af "les pires vacances en afs"...
3 mètres de neige au Lesotho...
Espérer la neige ?
un petit peu seulement...
Espérer un beau ciel clair et ensoleillé ? Oui sans réserves !
Es-tu sure que même en hiver il ne faut pas de 4x4 pour le swaterberg pass et la descente vers Prince albert?
S'il y a une tempête de neige, tu auras besoin d'un bon véhicule mais je ne suis pas sûre qu'il soit très agréable de visiter dans ces conditions...😄
Si le temps est sec, une voiture haute sur roue sera nettement plus confortable pour la descente vers Prince Albert mais tu n'auras pas besoin d'un vrai 4x4.
C'est une piste un peu pentue mais ce n'est pas un champ de cailloux, de rochers ou de sable mou.
Espérer la neige ?
un petit peu seulement...
Espérer un beau ciel clair et ensoleillé ? Oui sans réserves !
Pour le commun des mortels c'est clair .... mais pour Diamina .....
Mdr, mais vraiment mdr! Qu'est-ce qu'on se marre dans ce forum!
Vous les chanceux, vous en profitez chaque année de la neige, moi il faut que je sorte de mon petit ilot pour pouvoir en profiter. c'est vrai, je suis hors norme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ciel ensoleillé avec de la neige par terre c'est super. Et si enprime, j'ai une petite tempête de neige au sani pass, ce serait parfait pour que je puisse jouer dans la neige, puis ensuite comme à bryce canyon à nouveau du soleil pour admirer le paysage.
Lorsque j'aurai fait mon planning dans le détail, s'il faut avancer ou reculer d'un ou 2 jours ton séjour dans le kruger, tu pourrais faire ça pour moi s'il te plait? please, please.
Ehhhhhh, moi je pars avec un sacré désavantage par rapport à vous autres: je n'ai pas encore été touché par la foudre africaine qui rend accroc. Pour le moment, j'ai encore toute ma raison, et tout mon bon sens!
Bon, si je ne prends pas de 4x4 pour la 2ème partie du circuit, alors il faudra que je supprime richtersveld park de mon programme.
Ce serait dommage, non?
Mdr, mais vraiment mdr! Qu'est-ce qu'on se marre dans ce forum!
Et comment ! En plus qu'est-ce qu'on est soigné aux petits oignons !
Tu es bien gâtée, chouchoutée Diamina , c'est chouette ! 😎 😎
Franchement ce forum et cette discussion surtout, c'est une merveille de convivialité (sans découper les syllabes, je précise😛).
Dire qu'il y en a qui ne veulent même pas voir de photo avant de partir, pour avoir la surprise totale ! Ici, ceux-là ne se plairaient pas ! 🏴☠️
Pour le moment, j'ai encore toute ma raison, et tout mon bon sens!
Pour le moment ! 😇
Attention, " la foudre africaine qui rend accroc" ça s'attrape sans bruit, sans qu'on se méfie et tout d'un coup...le coup de bambou qui rend dingue, dingue de cette région ! 🙂
Fais gaffe ! Quoique, plus on est de fous plus on rit, la preuve ici ! 🙂 😄 🙂 😏
Comment se fait-il que tu ne dormes pas, alors qu'il est près de 3h du mat chez toi?
En tout cas tu tombes à pic! Je voudrais savoir si tu aurais dans ta bibliothèque magique, une carte interactive de l'afrique du sud avec les hotels qui s'affichent comme celle de cardbox que j'ai récupérée pour la Namibie, dans l'une de tes réponses, stp?
http://map.namibian.org/
Tu es bien gâtée, chouchoutée Diamina , c'est chouette !
A mon avis, ça doit être mon côté tropical qui les perturbe tous et toutes. Je suis une perturbation ambulante, tu vois, c'est un peu comme les cyclones qui déferlent sur nos côtes chaque année, enfin pas en Martinique forcément, mais dans les environs ( haiti, miami, ......).
Franchement ce forum et cette discussion surtout, c'est une merveille de convivialité (sans découper les syllabes, je précise).
J'adoooooooooooore!!!!!!!!! Boul de gomme a eu une excellente idée de démarrer cette discussion, d'ailleurs, il a disparu depuis quelque temps. C'est bizarre!!! Il n'est pas déjà parti quand même? Pas sans nous narguer quand même?
Attention, " la foudre africaine qui rend accroc" ça s'attrape sans bruit, sans qu'on se méfie et tout d'un coup...le coup de bambou qui rend dingue, dingue de cette région !
C'est donc ça. Je viens de me remettre à lire le carnet d'Attila, pour avoir des idées du grand karoo et du swartberg pass.
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6473955#6473955
Mais elle a raconté les orages silencieux qu'elle a contemplé, c'est donc ça le coup de foudre africain qui rend accroc? AH ouais?
Diamina, je peux déjà quasiment te dire que j'arrive autour du 20 août dans le ktp pour y passer 4 jours, ensuite ce sera probablement 2 nuits à Riemvasmaak et 3 dans le Namaqualand histoire de se poser un peu après un trajet de dingue, mais la tente sur le toit obligeant à ramasser le camp chaque jour, autant changer de coin souvent.
Ne romance pas trop la neige, elle vient souvent avec le vent et ça peut être terrible. Je me wouviens d'une aventure amusante, quoique stressante sur le coup. Nous étions au ski, il neigeait, c'était la purée de pois comme souvent dans ces cas là, j'allais de piquet en piquet en bord de piste bleue, la descente de trop...
Tout d'un coup, plus d'image plus de son, visi à moins de 10m, je ne voyais même plus le piquet suivant, je ralentis en avançant tout doucement vers ce que je supposais être la bonne direction.
QUAND SOUDAIN !!!
Je me casse la gueule en arrière !
Je navancais pas, je reculais😏 , ça fait tout drôle, j'étais en snowboard, en ski, ça m'aurait fait encore plus bizarre.
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Et puis, comme ta date de voyage est encore incertaine, tu pourras peut-être même grimper le Sani Pass puisque les autorités du Kwa-Zulu Natal viennent de décider de le goudronner.🙁
Oh non, ils ne vont pas faire ça!!! Le suivant pourrait être le VZP!🙁
Rahhh ces Chinois....
Mdr, mais vraiment mdr! Qu'est-ce qu'on se marre dans ce forum!
Vous les chanceux, vous en profitez chaque année de la neige, moi il faut que je sorte de mon petit ilot pour pouvoir en profiter. c'est vrai, je suis hors norme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Je plussoie à ce que dit ma compatriote domienne: moi aussi, je voudrais bien me taper un peu de neige. Vous n'imaginez même pas ce que c'est de vivre sans cesse avec du soleil et un ciel bleu!😎
J'adoooooooooooore!!!!!!!!! Boul de gomme a eu une excellente idée de démarrer cette discussion, d'ailleurs, il a disparu depuis quelque temps. C'est bizarre!!! Il n'est pas déjà parti quand même? Pas sans nous narguer quand même?
C'est normal tu lui as pourri son post ... et comme tu squatte sur presque tous les posts d'AFS il ose même pas en ouvrir un autre 😄😏😏😏
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
Ne romance pas trop la neige, elle vient souvent avec le vent et ça peut être terrible.
Je plussoie à ce que dit mon compatriote métropolitain.
La neige: un peu, ça va, beaucoup.... ça peut obliger à rester au Lesotho plus longtemps que prévu 😎
Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
J'adoooooooooooore!!!!!!!!! Boul de gomme a eu une excellente idée de démarrer cette discussion, d'ailleurs, il a disparu depuis quelque temps. C'est bizarre!!! Il n'est pas déjà parti quand même? Pas sans nous narguer quand même?
Nan, je suis encore bien là mais je donne un bon coup de speed avant d'entamer mes maigres petites journées de vacances! Eh oui, je ne suis pas encore parti et j'ai l'impression que c'est déjà fini! En attendant, faut réparer la voiture qui tombe en panne, le chien qui fait des crises d'épilepsie, prépare la communion du ptiot, psychanalyser la tortue qui se prend pour spiderman et accessoirement, bosser un peu... y a pu le temps ma tite dame! 😉
Du coup, va falloir que je me remette un peu en tête mon circuit de voyage, j'ai déjà oublié qqes étapes.
J'adoooooooooooore!!!!!!!!! Boul de gomme a eu une excellente idée de démarrer cette discussion, d'ailleurs, il a disparu depuis quelque temps. C'est bizarre!!! Il n'est pas déjà parti quand même? Pas sans nous narguer quand même?
C'est normal tu lui as pourri son post ... et comme tu squatte sur presque tous les posts d'AFS il ose même pas en ouvrir un autre 😄😏😏😏
Ce n'est pas grave, cela n'émeut pas le Sage que je suis. Et comme le dit le bon vieil adage de nos contrées: "la bave de la sauterelle n'atteint pas la blanche pintade"!🤪😏
Tu peux aussi consulter booking.com en notant le pays de ton choix et le type d'hébergements , de là tu auras une carte avec des centaines de " fanions"
le carnet d'Attila, pour avoir des idées du grand karoo et du swartberg pass.
Tu me croiras ou pas mais depuis que Attila avait quitté le forum à un moment houleux (pub etc) je n'avais plus rien vu de sa composition 😊😊😕
Merci, Diamina d'avoir mis ce lien.
Je viens d'aller jeter un 1er coup d'oeil et je retrouve bien le style de "notre" Attila et ses conseils judicieux; je vais approfondir ! !😉
Boul de gomme
Il fallait y penser ! 🙂 😏🙂🙂
Bonne route virtuelle ! 😉
une carte interactive de l'afrique du sud avec les hotels qui s'affichent comme celle de cardbox que j'ai récupérée pour la Namibie, dans l'une de tes réponses, stp?
http://map.namibian.org/
Sur les cartes de T4A il y les lodges ... qui sont inscrits
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
Que nenni! Je fais une oeuvre d'utilité publique, comme dirait un cetain V...ou: je permet à un post bénéfique à la santé commune de perdurer et d'agir pour la bonne santé mentale des membres.
Accessoirement, je contribue à l'enrichissement informatif du post dans l'hilarité générale.
Bref, je fais ma B.A. quoi!!!!!
et comme tu squatte sur presque tous les posts d'AFS il ose même pas en ouvrir un autre
Squatter! Mais non, j'apporte ma modeste contribution à la vie de posts qui parfois ont été oubliés de leurs initiateurs. C'est un peu comme recueillir un chien à la SPA: tiu fais une B.A. !!!!!
D'ailleurs, si vous pouviez adotpté un animal abandonné.......
J'en étais presqu'arrivée à me demander si on l'avait rêvé. Mais non, Boulwai existe , je l'ai rencontré (par lecture interposée)!!!!!
Je plussoie à ce que dit ma compatriote domienne: moi aussi, je voudrais bien me taper un peu de neige.
C'est quand même bien de se sentir soutenue!!!! ironie, vous avez dit ironie?
Vous n'imaginez même pas ce que c'est de vivre sans cesse avec du soleil et un ciel bleu!
C'est dur, c'est très dur!!! Un peu de pluies rafraichissantes de temps en temps, quelques moustiques porteurs de maladies sympathiques comme la dengue, le chikungunya, la mer et les coups de soleil, bref, la neige ........ c'est comment vous dire, ................. le rêve quoi!
D'ailleurs le taux de suicide chez les habitants des régions chaudes est plus élevé que dans les régions froides ou tempérées!!!!!
Nan, je suis encore bien là mais je donne un bon coup de speed
Fais gaffe de ne pas devoir commencer par une cure de désintoxe!!!!!
le chien qui fait des crises d'épilepsie,
C'est un thème récurrent depuis l'an dernier, et l'euthanasie????
psychanalyser la tortue qui se prend pour spiderman
Dire que Régis trouves que moi je ne fais rien comme personne!!!!! Je pense que tu détiens la palme d'or!
y a pu le temps ma tite dame!
J'apprécie d'autant plus l'inestimable chance d'avoir eu des réponses, venant d'une telle personnalité et je m'incline, que dis-je, je me prosterne devant tant de sacrifices!
Et comme le dit le bon vieil adage de nos contrées
réunionnaises, hein, faut pas confondre (en seul mot, n'est-ce pas Michelle?)
"la bave de la sauterelle n'atteint pas la blanche pintade"
Les sauterelles réunionnaises bavent alors??????
Si on suit la métaphore jusqu'au bout, c'est qui la blanche pintade?????
Je savais bien que je pouvais compter sur toi pour assurer l'aspect scientifique de ma déclaration!!
Et comme je le disais il y a des régions (comme Paris par exemple) où le taux de suicide est inférieur à celui de la Martinique!😏
Farfouille pas trop, on va te retrouver en Tanzanie
Comment ça , en Tanzanie ? Qu'est-ce que vous insinuez là, Monsieur RRrrrr ? 😠
Les cartes que j'ai données n'enverront point Diamina en Tanzanie .
Bien qu'elle pourrait pt'ête avoir envie de pousser une pointe jusque là ! Elle en est bien capable ! 😇
Ne... lui donne pas des idées !😏
Sur les cartes de T4A il y a des lodges
Oui, des centaines et des centaines de B&B et de camps, effectivement.
Le hic, c'est que j'éprouve certaines difficultés avec le maniement de la flèche sur ce site .😊 🤪
Pas toi ? 😊
Petit bonjour de Reunion Island où l'hiver rigoureux sévit depuis qqes semaines. C'est bien pour préparer le voyage mais j'ai le cafard: pas encore parti et l'impression d'être déjà revenu!
En attendant, je m'emmêle un peu les rouleaux pour la panorama road du côté de Blyde River. En effet, ce circuit est tellement banal qu'il en devient brouillon pour moi. Ainsi, en une journée, on aimerait voir le maximum de choses dans le coin comme dab en privilégiant bien sûr les grands classiques: les marmites, les godes, les ronds, les chutes...
Si j'ai bien compris le truc, tout cela se situe au abords du canyon et le circuit représente une boucle.
Donc, nous voilà lundi 28 juillet au départ de Lydenburg à 8h après un petit déj bien consistant (ahhh le breakfast, repas le plus important du matin!) et devant la carte, sous la pression des regards du groupe qui se posent sur ma nuque, je dois prendre la décision (avec l'air de ne pas douter un seul instant) soit de passer par Ohrigstad ou par Sabie et Graskop. A ce moment-là, je m'en sortirais comme un chef en désignant du doigt la meilleure direction que j'ai - siouplé- l'honneur et l'immense humilité de vous demander - siouplé - afin de ne pas passer pour une bourrique aux yeux de mes enfants et mes filleulles! Bien entendu, cela restera entre nous!😊
Voilà donc le topo: départ 8h Lydenburg - chépa quelle route avec pause pipi et pepet (faut évacuer les haricots) - chépa quoi voir dans l'ordre aux abords du canyon et ailleurs- pause casse croûte le midi (ah le casse croûte... repas le plus important du midi!)- encore un peu de visite ou alors route vers notre hébergement du soir à Kampersrus où nous souhaiterions arriver vers 15-16h pour préparer le dîner (ah le dîner... repas le plus important du soir!).
Bref, si vous aviez l'extrême amabilité de transformer mes "chépa" en carosse, ça m'aiderait bien.
Votre dévoué serviteur,
Boulwai 1er, authentique aventurier... dans une autre vie!😎
Mes repects du jour compatriote,
pas d'accord avec ton raisonnement: pour moi, une journée se divise en trois. Tout simplement les trois repas, tous aussi importants les uns que les autres et par souci d'harmonie, il faut qu'il soient tous aussi consistants les uns que les autres. Quand je parle du casse croûte, je veux parler de THE casse croûte!
Diner qu'on peut éventuellement alléger si on a convenablement déjeuner le midi!!!!!
Ceci permet de ne pas trop alourdir la panse, et favorise un sommeil plus réparateur, grâce auquel les pensées sont plus claires le matin!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quedal oui! Ca c'est une légende urbaine, j'ai déjà testé le dîner léger: impossible de trouver le sommeil; je n'ai jamais vu autant de saucissons et de t-bones traverser mon esprit!!! Résultat, un réveil de très mauvaise humeur et une faim à sucer un castor! Non, non, en ce qui me concerne, faut s'endormir avec la panse bien pleine, faut qu'elle se plaque au matelas dès que tu t'allonges, faut que tu te sentes comme le loup avec ses pierres dans le bide au fond de la rivière, et là, je m'endors, serein, confiant et rassuré par le prochain repas!😏
C'est quand même incroyable que tu ramènes tout à la bouffe; il n'y a pas que ça dans la vie Diam'! 😛 Faut aussi penser aux bons vins, 'sky et autres breuvages...😏
C'est quand même incroyable que tu ramènes tout à la bouffe; il n'y a pas que ça dans la vie Diam'!
Ah? j'avais cru comprendre que c'était le sujet principal de ton questionnement. On m'aurait tromper à l'insu de mon plein gré alors?
Faut aussi penser aux bons vins, 'sky et autres breuvages...
Ah ouis, mais là, ce n'est plus mon domaine, c'est celui d'Attila. Mon domaine ce sont les jus de fruits avant fermentation!
La seule exception est notre boisson locale: le rhum! Alors là, je suis toujours d'accord pour un petit apéritif: liqueur à la banane, punch coco, punch cacahuète, punch cacao, etc.........
Une autre exception est le bailey's, liqueur irlandaise pour laquelle je peux dépasser la modération
Bref, tu l'auras compris, les alcools secs, c'est vraiment pas pour moi.
Ainsi le champagne, bof! par contre un kir royal, là ok!
Bon je viens mettre un peu d'ordre dans le sujet, parce que forcement vu que Diamina a répondu c'est devenu le bordel ... on ne parle plus que de bouffe et d'alcool .... D'ailleurs je suis étonné de ne pas voir traîner Attila par ici 😇 😄
Pour en revenir à la question principale, les "chûtes" , qui a cette époque sont souvent des filets d'eau, sont plus belles à voir avec l'éclairage le matin et les Rondavels sont mieux en fin d'après midi !
Donc dans l'ordre :Mac Mac FallsLisbon FallsBerlin FallsGod's Windows (nom largement usurpé)Les Rondavels
classiques: les marmites, les godes, les ronds, les chutes...
Par contre nulle part je n'ai vu de gode ... mais bon chacun son truc 😏
Il faut regarder mais pas sur que vous ayez le temps de pousser jusqu'à Motlatse Canyon
Bonne cogitation
Hors sujet, mais on en a l'habitude c'est quoi un hiver rigoureux à la réunion ?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
Bon je viens mettre un peu d'ordre dans le sujet, parce que forcement vu que Diamina a répondu c'est devenu le bordel ... on ne parle plus que de bouffe et d'alcool .
Un cavalier qui surgit hors de la nuit, court vers l'aventure au galop..........Son nom il le signe de la pointe de l'épée d'un Z QUI VEUT DIRE........
Par contre nulle part je n'ai vu de gode
Fait pas attention Régis, Boul fais des confusions entre godemichet et god's windows. 🤪
Fais pas gaffe, c'est l'excitation du voyage prochain. Après ça va passer.
Régis, tu as oublié les bourke luke potholes....à caser je sais plus trop où dans le circuit (ça commence à être vieux et on n'avait pas fait les cascades (à coup sûr moins belles que celles de la Réunion 😎).
Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
Ah ouis, mais là, ce n'est plus mon domaine, c'est celui d'Attila. Mon domaine ce sont les jus de fruits avant fermentation!
La seule exception est notre boisson locale: le rhum! Alors là, je suis toujours d'accord pour un petit apéritif: liqueur à la banane, punch coco, punch cacahuète, punch cacao, etc.........
Une autre exception est le bailey's, liqueur irlandaise pour laquelle je peux dépasser la modération
Alors tu aimeras l'Amarula !
En cocktail, avec une boule de glace ou seul tout simplement !...
Un dé-li-ce ! Tu m'en diras des nouvelles ! 😉
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I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards