Je prévois avec mon conjoint un voyage en Chine en mars 2011. Compte tenu de la barrière linguistique, plusieurs amis qui sont allés en Chine m'ont conseillé d'y aller en voyage organisé. Or, nous ne sommes pas du tout type "voyage touristique organisé". Je cherche un guide privé ou une agence permettant d'être avec un guide privé. Avez-vous des suggestions?? Nous arriverons du Vietnam, dons commencerons par le sud. Nous sommes sportifs(Tekking)😊
Merci!
Voyager est un Triple plaisir: l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir! Ika Chase
Pourquoi s'imposer un guide? Non, c'est tout à fait faisable sans parler le chinois. Nous avons passé un moi dans le sud cet été. Aucun problème.
A+
Olivier
En effet, pourquoi s'imposer un guide ? Des amis m'avaient dit la même chose, mais n'aimant pas plus que toi les voyages organisés, j'ai quand même décidé de me débrouiller toute seule (enfin à 2 avec mon mari) et nous nous en sommes très bien sorti.
Un conseil, va dans des auberges de jeunesse où le personnel parle anglais, ça aide déjà beaucoup !
Pour te donner une idée, voici mon carnet de voyage : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2931670;#2931670
N'hésites pas si tu as des questions.
Vos commentaires m'ont convaincue!!:) Nous n'en sommes pas à notre premier voyage (j'ai fait un trek au Népal l'an dernier seule et nous avons parcouru l'europe(je sais l'europe c'est tout de même facile)) et j'ai acheté le Lonely Planet sur la Chine et ca aide beaucoup. De plus, j'avais l'intention de dormir en auberge jeunesse, puisque de toute façon, nous ne passons pas beaucoup de temps à notre hotel, profitant au maximum du temps dont nous disposons dans chaque ville/village! Pour les déplacements, compte tenu que nous voulons pas mal parcourir de distance, que me suggérez vous? Train de nuit, avion, bus? Quel est votre expérience à ce sujet? Je voulais faire la montagne Jaune et Tiger Leaping gorges. En mars, est-ce ok selon vous? Nous étions supposés aller en Chine en octobre de cette année, mais j'ai du subir une chirurgie et nous avons jusqu'à la fin avril pour prendre nos vacances... alors nous avons 5 semaines et compte tenu que je voulais également aller faire un petit tour au Cambodge-Vietnam je me disais que Mars serait un bon compromis. Qu'en pensez-vous?
Merci!!
Anne, Trois-Rivières (Québec)
Voyager est un Triple plaisir: l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir! Ika Chase
Je t'ai déjà donné le lien vers mon carnet de voyage, qui te donnera pas mal d'infos.
Nous avons passé 18 jorus en Chine, c'est court... Donc nous avons fait des choix. Avec plus de jours sur le même circuit je serais resté un jour de plus à Pekin, 1 ou 2 jours de plus à Xi'an, idem pour le Huangshan (Montagnes jaunes).
Les auberges de jeunesses en Chines sont très bien, tout le confort d'un hotel (nous avions à chaque fois une chambre double avec salle de bain privée) mais avec en plus l'ambiance de l'auberge de jeunesse.
Nous avions reservé la première à Pekin avant de partir, et ensuite dans chaque auberge de jeunesse on leur demndait de nous reserver la suivante. Du coup, à Hangzhou, on s'est retrouvé à être les seuls touristes occidentaux, les autres étaient chinois, c'était super sympa !
Le personnel parlait à chaque fois anglais, et nous notait sur des papiers chaque matin les lieux où nous voulions aller, en chinois. Ca nous a bien aidé. Ils nous ont aussi noté des phrases entières comme par exemple "bonjour je voudrais 2 billets de bus pour telle ville", et grace à ça c'était très pratique à la gare routière !
Pour les déplacements, nous avons pris l'avion, le train de nuit, le bus... En fonction des distances et des destinations, tu trouveras plus d'infos à ce sujet dans mon carnet de voyage.
La Montagne Jaune (Huangshan) est franchement magnifique. Prevoyez plusieurs jours sur place. Dans mon carnet de voyage je décrit ce que j'y ai fait, et je donne aussi le lien vers une discussion qui lui est consacrée, je te conseille d'y jeter un coup d'oeil.
En mars, d'après ce que j'ai compris, il fait encore froid... J'y étais en septembre, donc pas plus d'info pour la saison...
Comme je le disais au début, la Chine est un pays immense. A vous de voir ce que vous souhaitez découvrir dans ce pays, de voir combien de temps vous voulez rester à chaque endroit, pour vous faire une ebauche de planning...
Pour info, le Lonely Planet est très bien pour le Huangshan. Pour le reste du pays, je ne sais pas.
Bref, je te laisse lire les différents carnets de voyages sur la Chine, et les messages de certains membres (marathon, mariecurry, seniorch, lahaut...) et n'hésites pas ensuite si tu as des questions plus précises pour l'organisation de ton voyage.
J'ai voyage plusieurs fois en Chine, seule, sans probleme.
Les gens sont tres sympa
Au nord de Sapa vous allez au sud du Yunnan ou vous trouverez des paysages splendides avec des nombreuses minorites (yangshui, Yuan Yuan) et de nombreux marches , inoubliables !!!!
Tres facile de voyager en bus meme si on ne connait pas le chinois.
Passez quelques temps au sud du Yunnan, c'est un de mes plus beau voyage !!
Bien sur le nord du Yunnan est egalement tres beau avec Shangrila a la frontiere Tibetaine.
La meilleure facon de voyager et si on veut rencontrer les gens du pays , c'est sans guide.
Sorry, avec mon Ipad, je ne trouve pas les accents ..
Bon voyage, vous vous souviendrez de ces lieux et ces gens superbes...
tout comme cet ami precedemment a dit, Yunnan et plutot sud Yunnan, dont Shuhe, Lijiang, Shangrila, Dali seront innoubliable pour un exploreur, on a 56 minorites en chine, et a Yunnan, on trouvera 53 de ceux la, culturellement on aura de son propre experiences emouvantes. Un plateau avec altitude pas tres critique mais tous les beautes et agreable atmosphere, Yunnan, est quang meme 2000m plus proche a ciel.
et un autre endroit a conseiller de vous voir,c'est Guoliang village, HeNan, Chine. je suis un chinois, ca m'etouffe pas les geants metropolis Shanghai, Pekin ou Guangzhou mais no plus me regarde pas, et meme, on dirais un Pekinois ou Cantonais est souvent peu different d'un Newyorkais ou Tokyois. quand on va dans un village, une region profonde, on verra peut-etre moindre de riche, de metro, mais on touchera des traditions, des vieux beautes, des gens pures.
Guoliang a tout ca, en plus, il a un miracle de roche, une route impressionate creusee dans les falaises des montagnes TAIHANG.c'est que des gens simples peuvent faire ce genre de miracle.un autre miracle est:pendant 10 ans d'etre visite par les gens, les gens de Guoliang n'avait pas change beaucoup a une mentalite marchandisee comme plein d'autre gens plus malin qu'eux, une chambre propre, salle de l'eau, wifi, l'eau mineral au robinet, tarifiera sans distinction de personnel de 30rmb a 80rmb donc 3 euro a 9 euro par nuit.
j'avais envie d'installer a Yunnan comme actuel que je suis a Lijiang deja, et en mon odyssee du nord chine a Yunnan, en passant Guoliang,2 semaines j'ai vecu la bas et difficile de repartir a Yunnan pour la raison de l'aimer.
je vous conseille donc jeter un coup d'oeuil, et vous souhaite, avoir aussi de innoubliable belle souvenir.
Je reviens d'un circuit "Majestueux Yang Tsé avec Nouvelles Frontières.
Nous avons un guide chinois National francophone, le seul reproche c'est que normalement il est censé savoir le temps qu'il fait (les prévisions météo sont connues 12 jours à l'avance) , pour la visite de la Grande Muraille, il ne nous a rien prévenu, on l'a visitée sous une pluie battante , glaciale, et même de la neige et tout ça pas suffisamment vêtus , beaucoup d'enrhumés. Par contre l'après midi plus sec, on a visité les tombeaux des Ming moins intéressants, il aurait pu permuter les visites; ( il doit nous emmener à la fabrique des vases cloisonnées - commissions n'est ce pas )
A Chongqing, nous avons logé dans un hôtel ( Hoitak) qui n'a pas du tout les 3 étoiles promises par Nouvelles Frontières.
Sur la croisière Yang Tsé, la guide locale n'est pas francophone, le national a dû traduire; heureusement que le bateau MS Fortune ( presque une épave) énoncé pour le circuit a été remplacé par un autre un peu plus présentable.
A Beijing, Les Hutong ne sont plus authentiques, transformés en cantines pour des troupeaux de touristes avec des plats insipides -Arnaques
Les guides nous font visiter les sites à toute vitesse pour avoir le max de temps pour les achats (commissions), si on n'achète pas ou peu, ils sont moins avenants.
Voilà mes constats sur les guides en Chine.
houla... merci Bouvier, j'ai une amie qui revient d'un voyage organisé en Chine. Elle est contente de l'avoir fait ainsi, car elle dit que c'est une façcon de voir le plus de chose en un minimum de temps(on a pas 6 mois de vacances après tout!) Toutefois, comme toi elle me mentionne que c'est bien souvent une arnaque a touriste, puisque le guide les a ammené a maintes reprises dans des boutiques pour de longue période de temps. Toutefois, elle a fait la montagne jaune sans guide et me dit que c'est faisable d'y aller en solo. Je compte pour le moment m'organiser moi même. Remarque je ne pars qu'en mars, j'ai encore le temps de changer d'idée!!:)))😉
Merci!
🙂
Voyager est un Triple plaisir: l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir! Ika Chase
En effet, en chine le risque de rencontrer ce genre d'organisation est très possible, même en passant par de grosses agences françaises connues, car elles font appel à des prestataires chinois bien entendu...
De nombreux guides et agences de voyages chinoises comme l'a mentionné bouvier, font passer les visites touristiques après les traditionnels passages dans les boutiques...Qui leur rapporte des commissions bien entendu...
J'ai moi même fait l'expérience désagréable de ces visites guidées "chinoises". Car en fait c'est la vision chinoise des visites guidées, les chinois aiment acheter des souvenirs et achètent à peu près tout et n'importe quoi...Les agences mettent donc en place des "tours" peu chers mais truffés "d'attrappes touristes" : porcelaine, tapis, soie, spécialités alimentaires, pose "photos"...j'en passe et des meilleures....
C'est très désagréable pour nous occidentaux de tomber dans ce genre de tours...
C'est pour cela que le choix de l'agence/guide est important, vous devez demander les détails des visites, connaitre l'agence etc... Nouvelles frontières par exemple ne peut ignorer que les tours qu'elle propose soient ainsi faits.
Bonjour,
Je viens de lire votre article, étant à la recherche d'un circuit organisé, j'avais repéré celui que vous avez fait. Malgré les déboires cités, est ce que vous me le conseilleriez quand même ? La croisière vaut-elle le coût dans les deux sens du terme (qualité visuelle et prix) ? merci pour vos informations qui me seront précieuses.
Cordialement.
à la lecture de vos avis je suis un peu inquiète car je pars dans un mois en Chine avec mon mari et nous avons prévu deux semaines de voyage dont une avec un guide....! je vous dirai ce que cela a donné😛
cependant nous allons être vigilants sur les "pauses boutiques"!!!
Je voyage toujours seule et sans guide et c'est vraiment sans probleme je dirais au contraire on a beaucoup plus de contact avec les gens du pays. Bon voyage!!!
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We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I could really use your help to finalize our trip to Japan.
We’re heading there for three weeks with my partner, starting November 10th. Our plan was to visit Tokyo, Kyoto, and a few stops in between (nothing too original so far…).
However, we’re more into nature and hiking, so even though we do want to explore Tokyo and Kyoto, we’d like to maximize nature stops between the two. Initially, we’d considered places like Kamikochi, but I understand it’s not accessible this late in the season.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula
Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather
Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara)
Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Takayama: 3 days
Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport)
Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night
Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me
Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay
Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo)
Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kawaguchiko: 1 night
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Koya-san: 1 night
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights
Takayama: 3 nights
Kanazawa: 3 nights
Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points:
I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets.
I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted.
I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing
Day 2 to 4: Beijing
Day 5: Datong
Day 6 & 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11: Luoyang
Day 12: Dengfeng
flight
Day 13 & 14: Chongqing
flight
Day 15 & 16: Lijiang
Day 17: Dali
Day 18: Kunming
Day 19: Jianshui
Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang
Day 22: Travel via Guilin
Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo
Day 25: Guilin
Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie
flight
Day 28 & 29: Shanghai
Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently:
1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think?
2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority?
Thanks so much in advance for your help.
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026:
Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris).
This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome.
Thanks so much!
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns.
A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old).
Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there.
We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!!
Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights
Forbidden City
Great Wall of China
Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights
Terracotta Army
Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights
Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding
Wenshu Yuan Temple
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27)
Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet).
Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba.
Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals.
Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen.
Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28)
Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities:
Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms)
Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum.
Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
Activities:
Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go.
Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house).
Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts.
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Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3)
Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto:
Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara:
Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine.
Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4)
Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle.
Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle.
Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6)
Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).