Adrien
Cherche bon plan pour un voyage de route en Patagonie
by Adblack
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
🙂On vien d'acheter un "vehicule habitable" a Salta, on part en direction d'Ushuaia par l'Arg, puis on va remonter vers le nord entre chili et Arg. Si vous connaisser des petits coins de paradis on est preneur. Que ce soit pour des treks, des baignades tranquiles (a la "Adam et Eve"), des spots pleine nature ou autres...
Merci de nous donner des pistes....
Et si vous le voulez venez nous retrouver, ya de la place ...
Merci bcp..😉
Adrien
Adrien
Le voyage forme la jeunesse , alors restons jeune....
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Excellente idée..
Des bons plans : jette un oeil sur notre site dans la partie terrestre de www.hylas.ws : tu y trouveras une foule de petits coins de rêve.. Difficile autrement, Chili et Argentine transpirent de beauté..
Amusez vous bien.. et si vous croisez notre Skargo, faite nous signe car on sera dans la région de MENDOZA d'ici peu..
Belle route,
Fab sur www.hylas.ws
PS il ressemble à Koi, votre ''vehicule habitable'' ?
www.hylas.ws
""POURQUOI VOYAGEZ-VOUS ?
POUR TROUVER CEUX QUI SAVENT ENCORE VIVRE EN PAIX""
Super,
Belle et bonne idée, la promenade s'annonce géniale. Tu peux aller faire un tour sur notre site http://espacla.chez-alice.fr qui décrit un peu nos sentiments sur ce coin de paradis terrestre. N'hésite pas si tu as des questions.
Tchao
ESPACLA
Belle et bonne idée, la promenade s'annonce géniale. Tu peux aller faire un tour sur notre site http://espacla.chez-alice.fr qui décrit un peu nos sentiments sur ce coin de paradis terrestre. N'hésite pas si tu as des questions.
Tchao
ESPACLA
Espacla
WAOW!!!😮 votre site est vraiment de toute beauté...ca donne tellement le goût de tout laisser ici pour partir...c'est complètement fou...
En plus avec autant de détails et de précisions c'est vriament génial...je suis bien contente d'en avoir fait la connaissance!!🙂
Merci!!
Emmanuelle
on ne va jamias aussi loin que lorsqu'on ne sait pas ou l'on va!!--christophe colomb-
Hummm.. j'en suis toute chose.. de ton gentil mot sur la qualité de notre site..
Mais crois moi.. c'est aussi la face cachée du voyage.. et cela représente beaucoup d'heures de travail, un tel site..
Aussi !
Je rajoute ton petit mot sur notre livre d'or.. d'ici qq heures..
http://www.hylas.ws/Terrestre/livre_dor.htm
Ciao ciao
Fab
www.hylas.ws
""POURQUOI VOYAGEZ-VOUS ?
POUR TROUVER CEUX QUI SAVENT ENCORE VIVRE EN PAIX""
Salut! J'ai un peu de temps apres la route alors je reviens sur le forum... Dites-moi, sans etre indiscret, avez-vous une bonne experience de la conduite sur piste surtout en cc?Je ne veux pas passer pour un rabat-joie mais ici la route c'est vraiment penible et dangereux. Sans avoir consulte leur site j'ai l'impression que les Skargo sont des habitues de longue date, ca fait la difference, il faudrait qu'ils vous passent leurs trucs pour voyager sans trop de risques. Personnellement je roule enormement ici et je connais une bonne partie des routes mais je suis toujours en etat de vigileance absolue et donc creve en fin d'etape; pour exemple, le ripio est un piege et le pire est qu'on s'y habitue et qu'on augmente sans s'en rendre compte son rythme jusqu'a la vitesse critique, chaque annee je ne sais combien de touristes en location se mettent sur le toit a Valdes...( Herge doit avoir les stats). Les longues rectas asfaltadas sont presque pires parce qu'elles se terminent presque toujours par des virages qui ferment et qu'on aborde a grande vitesse (en tout cas trop rapidement)... Dans le Sud( ma region) il faut compter avec le vent! Mes amis d'Esquel disent qu'a Leleque les camions se retournent!!! (Leleque c'est entre El Bolson et Esquel, dans le fief de la famille Benetton..), je fais cette route tres souvent' je ne me suis jamais retourne mais enfin...La route 3 entre Puerto Santa Cruz et Commodoro Rivadavia c'est quelque chose aussi!!! Chaque car, chaque camion vous fait faire un ecart impressionnant...Pensez aux animaux errants, chevres, moutons, chevaux, vaches, autruches, guanacos, chiens et SURTOUT aux enfants ou meme aux adultes qui jouent au foot sur les terre-plein des autoroutes, qui font du velo a contre-sens, qui taversent etc.. Pensez aussi qu'ici la visibilite est totalement differente et surtout l'appreciation des distances: des phares qui semblent tres proches sont parfois a des kms!!! Nous avons fait l'experience 50 fois avec mon fils: on ne se sentait pas pour doubler, on comptait et en realite le camion que nous pensions tres proche passait 1 minute plus tard!!! Apres on doute de tout. Pensez aussi en l'incivilite des Argentins et en ll'application plus que legere du code de la route. Pensez aussi qu'au cas de pepin vous aurez rarement raison!!!... Si vous voulez plus de renseignements, joignez moi en prive, ne croyez pas que je suis parano, et faites un beau voyage.
blondin
Salut,
Perso nous avons passé 12 mois à vadrouiller en amérique du sud avec notre camping car sans etre des "pros" de la conduite et encore moins du voyage puisqu'il s'agissait de notre premier grand voyage. Un minimum de prudence (ne jamais rouler de nuit, ne pas déballer son matos, ....) et de bon sens et ça roule. C'est vrai que les routes ne sont pas toujours au standard européen loin sans faut mais si on roule pas comme un kamikaze ça se passe bien.
Tchao
Perso nous avons passé 12 mois à vadrouiller en amérique du sud avec notre camping car sans etre des "pros" de la conduite et encore moins du voyage puisqu'il s'agissait de notre premier grand voyage. Un minimum de prudence (ne jamais rouler de nuit, ne pas déballer son matos, ....) et de bon sens et ça roule. C'est vrai que les routes ne sont pas toujours au standard européen loin sans faut mais si on roule pas comme un kamikaze ça se passe bien.
Tchao
Espacla
Je suis bien d'accord avec vous qu'il ne faut pas dramatiser et que la plupart du temps les choses se passent a peu pres bien (a ppart les quelques galeres inherentes a tout long voyage). Mais il vaut quand meme mieux prevenir que guerir, tout le monde ne sait pas a priori s'auto-evaluer, connaitre ses limites et sa reactivite, encore moins celle des autres. Par exemple, partir avec des enfants n'est jamais un acte neutre ou indifferent, c'est un engagement de soi mais aussi d'autrui, il faut donc bien evaluer les risques et, i9l me semble que c'est un peu le role de ce type de forums que d'apporter quelques bribes d'experience, desinteressees de surcroit, impartiales et qui ne tombent pas dans l'angelisme, la fuite en avant, le rien-ne-peut-nous-arriver-c'est-normal-on-est-francais. Ciao, c'est bien de voyager comme vous faites.
blondin
comme beaucoup de choses sur cette bonne vieille terre, le ripio s apprend en pratiquant le ripio. A bien des egards, c est semblable a une bonne couche de neige fraiche. en resume, anticipation, douceur et attention.
J en profite pour saluer bien bas nos amis de espacla et de skargo.
Laurent
J en profite pour saluer bien bas nos amis de espacla et de skargo.
Laurent
www.aquandes.be
parce qu´un jour il faut arrèter de rêver et sortir les plans du tiroir (Amyr Klink)
parce qu´un jour il faut arrèter de rêver et sortir les plans du tiroir (Amyr Klink)
Coucou les amis,
On espere que tout se passe au mieux dans l'autre hemisphère et que vous faites de beaux reves avec Lucie. Bonne continuation ! Tchao à bientot
ESPACLA
On espere que tout se passe au mieux dans l'autre hemisphère et que vous faites de beaux reves avec Lucie. Bonne continuation ! Tchao à bientot
ESPACLA
Espacla
Salut tout le monde, merci pour toutes ses infos!!!
Qu'elle surprise tant de reponse ( faut dire que sa fais deja qques jours que se message est en ligne!!et que moi je n'y ait pas mis les pieds...) merci a tous, aux fille pour leurs patience et leur site carrement interesant, et a toi blondin qui nous met direct dans le bain.
En tout cas je prend note, nous sommes partis il y a qque jours et donc on as pris en main l'engin (qui n'est qu'un fourgon merco MB 180 D) et pour le moment tout ce passe bien on va essayer de passer un max par la "Routa 40" quite a faire qques detours, et a rouler a 30km/h voir moins .
Tout vas pour le mieux et deja qques anecdotes mais et surtout une question:
Cette route 40 entre barriloche, Perritto et Calafate est-elle praticable et les carte sont -elle fiable???
Voila en tout cas mille merci et a trés vite .
Adrien
Adrien
Le voyage forme la jeunesse , alors restons jeune....
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Allez, j'avoue, depuis 3 ans je me la fais la route 40! Cette annee, de Humahuaca a Rio Gallegos en 3 troncons avec ma brave partner. 3mois sur la route 35000kms au compteur (ben oui, de temps a autre je reviens faire un bisou a la famille a Buenos...ca fait du kmtrage sup...et, a chaque fois, je ne peux pas m'empecher de visiter ce qu'il y a au milieu: les sierras de Cordoba, la Pampa, les mesetas qui me bouleversent et en plus je n'ai pas pu resister a remonter par la route 3, celle de la cote.) Bon, il n'est pas interdit de tricher un peu, exemple pour se rendre a Esquel on peut suivre la 40 avec le fameux passage de Leleque mais on peut aussi emprunter la 71 a partir d'Epuyen direction Cholila et camper par ex pres du lago verde ou du Menendez ou du Futalaufquen, la route est plus dure mais tres transitable. Pareil a partir de Esquel: soit la 20 jusqu'a Rio Mayo ( tres bonne) soit la 40 en ripio et Alto Rio Senguer...En fait c'est a partir de la que l'on entre dans le no man's land avec un petit retour a la civilisation du cote de Perito Moreno (la ville, bien sur, pas le Parc ni le glacier homonymes) et Los Antiguos puis un grnd plongeon dans un ocean de solitude qui vous renvoie dans des mondes perdus, des temps oublies, des tectoniques de la nature et de l'ame. J'arrete sinon on en a jusqu'a demain; en bref, oui c'est tres transitable a condition d'etre attentif et de respecter certaines regles: recharger le combustible des qu'on croise une station, acheter 1 ou 2 bidons supplementaires ( on les offrira genereusement a la gomeria de El Chalten ou on ne manquera pas de faire une petite etape de revision generale, apres normalement on n'en a plus besoin et l'essence dans le coffre ca sent pas bon!!), ne pas rouler de nuit, ne pas presumer de ses forces ni de celles de son vehicule, J'utilise les guides YPF qui mentionnent de maniere fiable leurs propres stations, les guides ACA, les cartes Pirelli et Firestone, l'un des meilleurs est le guide vert (local) Patagonie du nord, Patagonie du sud (2 bouquins), on ne les trouve qu'ici, ( guia verde patagonia norte etc... Bisous, suerte, n'hesitez pas a me contacter direct, je rentre en France demain mais c'est pour la bonne cause: passer les fetes avec mes enfants. A bientot, je serai surement fe retour avant que vous n'ayez termine.
blondin
Cool, merci blondin .
Deja 1000km parcourut et les premiers ennuis technique aussi, mais tout ce passe pour le mieux ...
Merci bien pour les plans !
A tout ceux que ca tente il suffit d'une mise de depart, d'un peu de temps et d'un minimum d'espingouin et ca roule !!! Si vous vouler des rensegnements y a pas de souci, demander seulement!
Chauu, un abrazo a tous les routards et aux autres . Suerte! Ad
A tout ceux que ca tente il suffit d'une mise de depart, d'un peu de temps et d'un minimum d'espingouin et ca roule !!! Si vous vouler des rensegnements y a pas de souci, demander seulement!
Chauu, un abrazo a tous les routards et aux autres . Suerte! Ad
Le voyage forme la jeunesse , alors restons jeune....
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Salut,
comment va le voyage ? je vis a Puerto Varas, c est un coin superbe et il y a pleins de petits villages perdu par ici, qui vous plairont surement
hasta luego Nico
comment va le voyage ? je vis a Puerto Varas, c est un coin superbe et il y a pleins de petits villages perdu par ici, qui vous plairont surement
hasta luego Nico
QUAND ON AIME, IL FAUT SAVOIR , DANSER, CHANTER, CUISINER, TRAVAILLER...QUAND ON AIME IL FAUT VOYAGER.
B. CENDRAR ( DESOLE SI JE L AI UN PEU TRANSFORMEE ). CARPE DIEM.
ce serait bien d´envoyer une photo de la bète, qu´on se reconnaisse si on se croise
Laurent
Laurent
www.aquandes.be
parce qu´un jour il faut arrèter de rêver et sortir les plans du tiroir (Amyr Klink)
parce qu´un jour il faut arrèter de rêver et sortir les plans du tiroir (Amyr Klink)
Salut depuis la France...J'espere que les incidents n'ont pas ete trop graves. Ce qui souffre le plus en general ce sont les trains roulants...A propos en lisant le post de Nicolin de Puerto Varas, il me vient a l'esprit que l'on ne peut pas passer la frontiere quand on est proprietaire du vehicule dans lequel on se deplace si on n'est pas argentin ou titulaire du DNI. Cette annee pour aller au Chili j'ai du mettre la voiture au nom d'un ami ( intime, vous vous en doutez!!!) qui a signe devant escribano un papier m'autorisant à utiliser l'auto en tout lieu et en tout pays. Et ce papier on me l'a demande a la frontiere de Rio Turbio! Cela dit, apres, personne ne m'a fait d'histoires, au contraire, les douaniers et gendarmes argentins et chiliens ont ete tres sympas. petit clin d'oeil: porter un maillot de Zidane, c'est toujours bien vu. Chauuuuu.
blondin
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So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
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Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri