Circuit de Santiago du Chili à Buenos Aires en février-mars 2011
by MaguyGau
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Mon mari et moi avons 60 ans et sommes habitués aux périples de 5-6 semaines. Nous sommes bons marcheurs. Nous partons pour la Patagonie mi-février 2011 pour 5 semaines. Pourrions-nous avoir quelques avis sur notre programme :
Arrivée à Santiago le matin (nous connaissons déjà cette ville !) - Bus de nuit pour Puerto Montt
1ère semaine : autour de Puerto Montt (Lac todos los Santos-Ensenada : 2-3 j- Ile Chiloé : 3 j) Est-il préférable de louer une voiture à Chiloé ou les transports en bus sont-ils suffisants ? Nous comptons nous baser à Castro.
4 j : Navimag de Puerto Montt à Puerto Natales (arrivée à Puerto Natales vers 12 h) - Formalités pour les jours suivants...
2-3 j : Torres del Paine (nous comptons aller vers le Glacier Grey et faire la Vallée Francès en couchant au Lodge Paine Grande
1 j : Puerto Natales - Ushuaia (transport bus)
1 j : Ushuaia : Parc National de la Terre de Feu
4 j : croisière Mare-Australis (notre "petite" ou "grosse folie" !) - Départ Ushuaia - Arrivée Punta Arenas - avec un bus le soir de l'arrivée pour Puerto Natales
1 j : Puerto-Natales - El Calafate (transport bus)
2 j : El Calafate - Glacier Perito Moreno 1 des 2 jours
1 j : El Calafate - El Chalten
2 j : El Chalten - La laguna de los Très - La Laguna Torre
1 j : El Chalten - Los Antiguos
1 j : Los Antiguos
1 j : transport vers Puerto Madryn (même en l'absence des baleines ?)
1 j - Puerto Madryn
Voyage vers Buenos Aires et fin du voyage
Ce programme vous semble-t-il réalisable du point de vue logistique (déroulement, temps de transport, etc) ? (Bien sûr la météo peut en décider autrement !) - Toute suggestion serait la bienvenue.
Merci
Maguy
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http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
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Bonjour
J'ai voyagé six mois au Chili et en Argentine en 2005-2006. À partir de Puerto Montt mon trajet fut semblable au vôtre avec la coisière avec Navimag jusqu'à Puerto Natales, puis descente vers Ushuaia en bus et remontée vers El Calafate (il n'est pas nécessaire de repasser par Punta Arenas et Puerto Natales).
Peut-être que les sections de mon blogue sur le Chili et l'Argentine pourraient vous être utiles dans la préparation de votre voyage.
Voilà
Bonne préparation.
Jacques
J'ai voyagé six mois au Chili et en Argentine en 2005-2006. À partir de Puerto Montt mon trajet fut semblable au vôtre avec la coisière avec Navimag jusqu'à Puerto Natales, puis descente vers Ushuaia en bus et remontée vers El Calafate (il n'est pas nécessaire de repasser par Punta Arenas et Puerto Natales).
Peut-être que les sections de mon blogue sur le Chili et l'Argentine pourraient vous être utiles dans la préparation de votre voyage.
Voilà
Bonne préparation.
Jacques
« Certains pensent qu'ils font un voyage, en fait, c'est le voyage qui vous fait ou vous défait. » (Nicolas Bouvier, L'usage du monde)
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Bonjour Jacques et merci pour ce petit mot
J'ai consulté votre blog et félicitations : c'est EXTRA !
D'abord, il m'a permis de me remémorer notre voyage de 6 semaines effectué il y a un an : Pérou (Lima, Ballestas, Arequipa, Colca, Cuzco, Puno, Lac Titicaca), Bolivie (Copacabana, La Paz, Sucre, Potosi, Salar de Uyuni), Nord de l'Argentine (Humahuaca, Salta, Iguazu, Rosario, Cordoba, Mendoza) et finalement Santiago du Chili.
Actuellement, nous projetons ce voyage en Patagonie de 5-6 semaines et je suis dans la phase 1 : je me délecte dans la préparation du planning... J'ai pris plaisir à consulter les lieux que vous avez visités...
Restera la phase 2 : la réalisation (encore un rêve pour le moment !) ; puis la phase 3: "une trace des meilleurs souvenirs" que ce soit sous forme de blog, de vidéos ou encore d'albums-photos... Mieux vaut donc être à la retraite : ces différentes occupations me prennent facilement 6 mois au total (voyage compris !), pas à temps complet bien sûr !😉
Petite observation : vous êtes du Saguenay ? Une bien belle région canadienne où l'on savoure une délicieuse tourte aux myrtilles !!!
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Bon prochain voyage au nord de l'Argentine !!!
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http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
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Merci pour vos bons mots.
Je vous souhaite de passer d'aussi bons moments que ceux que j'ai vécus dans cette partie du monde.
Jacques
Je vous souhaite de passer d'aussi bons moments que ceux que j'ai vécus dans cette partie du monde.
Jacques
« Certains pensent qu'ils font un voyage, en fait, c'est le voyage qui vous fait ou vous défait. » (Nicolas Bouvier, L'usage du monde)
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bonjour, nous avons lu avec beaucoup d'intérêt votre futur circuit sur le chili et argentine. Nous sommes exactement, en train de préparer pratiquement le même itinéraire, et également sur 5à6 semaines. Etant novice dans ce genre de préparation pouvez vous m'indiquer si vous avez déjà réservé votre billet d'avion, et si oui sur quelle compagnie, et à quel prix ? Pour ce qui concerne la période que vous avez choisie :pensez vous que mi février, est une période "plus chaude", que janvier ? Merci pour votre réponse.
vero
Bonjour,
Je rentre juste d'un merveilleux voyage de près de 6 semaines en Patagonie. Précision : notre voyage a débuté mi-février, donc pratiquement à la fin des vacances des Chiliens, donc pas de problème pour les hôtels, les transports...
Réservations : L'avion, Navimag et la croisière Australis (Cap Horn) en août.
Pour le budget, nous avons misé sur 100 euros environ par jour à 2 (sachant que nous optons pour la chambre individuelle, soit environ 30 euros par nuit, que les bus sont relativement chers et que nous mangeons 1 fois par jour au restau). Il reste à payer aussi les entrées dans les parcs qui sont relativement élevées... Pour le programme : Nous avons pris un vol multi-directions avec Nouvelles Frontières : Depuis Roissy : Arrivée à Santiago - Départ de Buenos Aires (1000 euros/personne)De Santiago (1 seule journée car nous connaissions déjà), bus de nuit avec Tur Bus au Terminal Alemada : de Santiago à Puerto Montt (bus cama : 43000 pesos pour 12 h de trajet)Direction Castro (bus 5000 pesos/1) - Hôtel Mirador : 18000 la chambre matrimoniale - Nous sommes restés 4 nuits - Nous avons assisté à un festival;; visité Achao et le Parc National...Direction Puerto Varas : Hôtel Ellenhaus : 19500 la matrimoniale (2 nuits + 1) - De Puerto Varas : 1er jour : bus pour Petrohue et bateau pour le superbe Lac de Tous les Saints : 44000 pesos AR/2 De Puerto Varas : 2e et 3e jour : location d'une voiture pour 2 j (27000) - Tour du Lac Llanquihue par Frutilar jusqu'à Ensenada, puis vallée de Cochamo et estuaire de Reloncavi - (Nuit à l'Hospedaje Edicar de Cochamo : 17000) - Puis retour à Puerto Varas pour une 3e nuit.Navimag : le départ devait avoir lieu le vendredi et a été reporté au samedi... Nous avons été prévenus le lundi précédent. Nous avions fait les réservations en août... Très, très bien... Arrivée à Puerto Natales le mardi... Hôtel Geminis : 14000 Torres del Paine : en raison du décalage de Navimag et d'une réservation sur Ushuaia, nous avons abandonné notre projet de trek de 2 j dans le parc, mais avons pris un "full day" le mercredi : 18000/1 le bus + entrée du parc 15000/1 - Super car météo extra : du soleil pour voir les Torres Transport Puerto Natales-Ushuaia : jeudi départ 7 h - Arrivée 19 h - Bus Pacheco (68000 pesos/2) - A Ushuaia (Argentine) : Hôtel Haush (notre chambre était nulle) : 360 pesos argentinsParc Tierra del Fuego le vendredi : entrée 60/1 - Bus pour le parc : 65/1Croisière Australis - Notre folie - départ le samedi d'Ushuaia - Arrivée : le mardi à Punta Arenas au Chili - Très bien... mais chère... Le mardi soir, bus pour Puerta Natales au Chili - Bus Pacheco : 8000 pesos chiliens - Hôtel Geminis : 14000El Calafate : le mercredi - Bus Puerto Natales-El Calafate : 30000/2 - Argentine : Bus El Calafate-Perito Moreno : 100/2 - Entrée du parc : 200/2 - Hôtel Calafate : 240 Bus El Calafate-El Chalten le jeudi après-midi : 150/2 - Hôtel à El Chalten : La Cima : 150/nuit - 3 nuits - 2 treks très beaux sous le soleil : Laguna Torres et Fitz Roy La Ruta 40 - le dimanche - Bus "el Chalten" : de 9h à 22 h : 490/2 - Route intéressante - Alberque Padilla : 200 (propre, c'est tout !) - Los Antiguos : moyen et de la pluie - donc le lundi après-midi : bus La Union pour comodoro Rivadavia : 194/2 - suivi d'un bus de nuit pour Puerto Madryn (prix non noté)Puerto Madryn : Hôtel El Gualicho pour 2 nuits : très bien (230 la nuit) - Nous avons loué des vélos 1 japrès nous sommes partis vers Cordoba où nous étions attendus (5 j) puis avons terminé par Buenos Aires : 2 1/2 j - Hôtel Carlos Gardel (TB) - 160/nuitJe pense avoir répondu (longuement) à vos questions - Nous avons un blog et vous pouvez nous contacter. Les Gauchet en vadrouille... Patagonie(il suffit sous GOOGLE de saisir : GAUCHET PATAGONIE
Réservations : L'avion, Navimag et la croisière Australis (Cap Horn) en août.
Pour le budget, nous avons misé sur 100 euros environ par jour à 2 (sachant que nous optons pour la chambre individuelle, soit environ 30 euros par nuit, que les bus sont relativement chers et que nous mangeons 1 fois par jour au restau). Il reste à payer aussi les entrées dans les parcs qui sont relativement élevées... Pour le programme : Nous avons pris un vol multi-directions avec Nouvelles Frontières : Depuis Roissy : Arrivée à Santiago - Départ de Buenos Aires (1000 euros/personne)De Santiago (1 seule journée car nous connaissions déjà), bus de nuit avec Tur Bus au Terminal Alemada : de Santiago à Puerto Montt (bus cama : 43000 pesos pour 12 h de trajet)Direction Castro (bus 5000 pesos/1) - Hôtel Mirador : 18000 la chambre matrimoniale - Nous sommes restés 4 nuits - Nous avons assisté à un festival;; visité Achao et le Parc National...Direction Puerto Varas : Hôtel Ellenhaus : 19500 la matrimoniale (2 nuits + 1) - De Puerto Varas : 1er jour : bus pour Petrohue et bateau pour le superbe Lac de Tous les Saints : 44000 pesos AR/2 De Puerto Varas : 2e et 3e jour : location d'une voiture pour 2 j (27000) - Tour du Lac Llanquihue par Frutilar jusqu'à Ensenada, puis vallée de Cochamo et estuaire de Reloncavi - (Nuit à l'Hospedaje Edicar de Cochamo : 17000) - Puis retour à Puerto Varas pour une 3e nuit.Navimag : le départ devait avoir lieu le vendredi et a été reporté au samedi... Nous avons été prévenus le lundi précédent. Nous avions fait les réservations en août... Très, très bien... Arrivée à Puerto Natales le mardi... Hôtel Geminis : 14000 Torres del Paine : en raison du décalage de Navimag et d'une réservation sur Ushuaia, nous avons abandonné notre projet de trek de 2 j dans le parc, mais avons pris un "full day" le mercredi : 18000/1 le bus + entrée du parc 15000/1 - Super car météo extra : du soleil pour voir les Torres Transport Puerto Natales-Ushuaia : jeudi départ 7 h - Arrivée 19 h - Bus Pacheco (68000 pesos/2) - A Ushuaia (Argentine) : Hôtel Haush (notre chambre était nulle) : 360 pesos argentinsParc Tierra del Fuego le vendredi : entrée 60/1 - Bus pour le parc : 65/1Croisière Australis - Notre folie - départ le samedi d'Ushuaia - Arrivée : le mardi à Punta Arenas au Chili - Très bien... mais chère... Le mardi soir, bus pour Puerta Natales au Chili - Bus Pacheco : 8000 pesos chiliens - Hôtel Geminis : 14000El Calafate : le mercredi - Bus Puerto Natales-El Calafate : 30000/2 - Argentine : Bus El Calafate-Perito Moreno : 100/2 - Entrée du parc : 200/2 - Hôtel Calafate : 240 Bus El Calafate-El Chalten le jeudi après-midi : 150/2 - Hôtel à El Chalten : La Cima : 150/nuit - 3 nuits - 2 treks très beaux sous le soleil : Laguna Torres et Fitz Roy La Ruta 40 - le dimanche - Bus "el Chalten" : de 9h à 22 h : 490/2 - Route intéressante - Alberque Padilla : 200 (propre, c'est tout !) - Los Antiguos : moyen et de la pluie - donc le lundi après-midi : bus La Union pour comodoro Rivadavia : 194/2 - suivi d'un bus de nuit pour Puerto Madryn (prix non noté)Puerto Madryn : Hôtel El Gualicho pour 2 nuits : très bien (230 la nuit) - Nous avons loué des vélos 1 japrès nous sommes partis vers Cordoba où nous étions attendus (5 j) puis avons terminé par Buenos Aires : 2 1/2 j - Hôtel Carlos Gardel (TB) - 160/nuitJe pense avoir répondu (longuement) à vos questions - Nous avons un blog et vous pouvez nous contacter. Les Gauchet en vadrouille... Patagonie(il suffit sous GOOGLE de saisir : GAUCHET PATAGONIE
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Bonsoir,
Vous m'avez comblé par votre récit, et particulièrement par tous les détails de prix, de transport . et surtout vous me semblez d'être en très grande forme. Juste une petite question concernant votre croisière Australis, , avec départ d'Ushuaia , sur Punta Arenas au Chili, vous avez trouvé cher ce trajet, qu'entendez vous par cher ? Encore mille merci . 😏
vero
Bonjour,
La croisière Australis est revenue à 2005 Euros pour nous 2 et pour 4 jours (les prix sont donnés en $ US), soit le prix de nos billets d'avion AR. Naturellement c'est très bien à bord (bar open, excellente nourriture et vin à volonté, cabine extra : on avait opté pour la cabine à 2 la moins chère, mais on a été surclassés, tant mieux !), naturellement on passe le Cap Horn (ou on y va suivant le temps), on utilise 3 autres fois le zodiac : glaciers, île Wulaia, et surtout Isla Magdalena (avec les pingouins). Mais cela reste cher... et grève un peu le budget.
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http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Bonsoir, en effet cette croisière sublime a une contrepartie argent sublime également..J'ai suite à ces informations surfer sur le net, et j'ai eu qqes réponses sur le prix d'une croisière, par une agence : Latitud Argentina, son correspondant : Jean Baptiste Vannier, qui nous propose du 14 au 17/04/2012 , départs Ushuaia/Cap Horn/arrivée Punta Arenas sur le Stella Australis (mis en service en décembre 2010) une cabine B : 899 USdollars soit 640 euros/personne. Le prix comprenant : la pension complète avec open bar, les excursions, débarquements et conférences avec guides naturalistes multilingues (sous réserve le français) . Qu'en pensez vous ?Auriez vous des informations sur Latitud Argentina ? Cette personne nous proposant "pour notre confort" de mettre à disposition leur compte bancaire en France pour un paiement par virement. Leur site : www.latitud-argentina.com. Si vous avez une connaissance à B.A. peut être que cette agence est connue? Peut être à vous lire bientôt. Amicalement . 😏
vero
Pour les réservations, nous sommes passés directement par NAVIMAG pour la première navigation et par CRUCEROS AUSTRALIS pour la croisière. La compagnie possède le Stella et le Via... La différence de prix me semble provenir du fait qu'en avril, c'est la basse saison et qu'en début mars, c'était la haute saison... (attention : en basse saison, les jours sont déjà plus courts et les pingouins risquent d'avoir quitté l'île Magdalena...)
Je ne connais pas les agences dont vous me parlez... Je n'ai eu aucun problème en traitant directement...
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
bonjour, encore merci pour la rapidité de votre réponse. Nous allons contacter directement comme vous l'avez fait NAVIMAG tout d'abord et CRUCEROS AUSTRALIS pour la croisière. Nous pensons finaliser ce circuit , courant juillet/août . Amicalement .
vero
Bonsoir, à notre tour nous préparons notre futur voyage en Patagonie et bien évidemment nous projetons la croisière sur le Via ou le Mare Australis. Le budget de ce voyage étant conséquent, nous aimerions bien choisir les cabines les moins chères, mais, avant de nous décider, nous sommes soucieux du confort de ces cabines. Qu'est-ce qui justifie la différence de prix (bruits des machines, tangage, visibilité) ? Si vous avez des conseils pour nous permettre de nous pas regretter cette économie, nous sommes preneurs.
tres chouette le chili et les gens sont tres sympas
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a bientot
venez le visiter sur mon site
www.cyrarno.com
vous y trouverez la cuisine , le shopping, pablo neruda, les paysages, les fleurs les animaux du chili
a bientot
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Bonjour,
Pour notre croisière sur Via Australis du 5 au 8 mars 2011 :Nous avions d'abord choisi le départ d'Ushuaia (3 nuits) beaucoup moins cher que le départ de Punta Arenas (4 nuits)Nous avions réservé la cabine la moins chère à savoir B, déjà 1328$ en haute saison.Tout a été payé avec accusé de réception en janvier. A notre grande et heureuse surprise, nous avons été surclassés en cabine A (n° 214), normalement à 1863$. On n'a pas demandé pourquoi... On en a profité... On a vu des passagers aller vers les cabines inférieures... Mais nous n'avons aucun renseignement sur le confort ou autre qui motiverait cette énorme différence de prix. La nôtre était super (telle qu'elle est sur le plan)... De toutes façons, dans la journée (repas, free bar, sorties en mer, c'est identique).
Voilà pour les renseignements que je peux apporter...
Voilà pour les renseignements que je peux apporter...
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
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After this, we're also planning to explore northern Santiago. I'll post about that part once I have a clearer idea of the route.
What do you think of this itinerary? Is it doable in 17 days? Thanks in advance for your tips and recommendations. martine
Hi everyone! So happy to be back on this forum—it’s packed with such useful info! 🙂 My husband and I are planning a 2.5-week self-drive trip to Colombia at the end of the year, including some domestic flights. My first question is: is it possible, easy, and safe to do a road trip in Colombia?
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks






