Argentine seul: budget nécessaire de 1200 euros par mois
by Atlante
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Hola !
Pour ceux qui viennent en Argentine, le budget est a la hausse, seul et etranger vous payez plus cher hotel, essence, les entrees dans les lieux touristiques, les circuits, l avion mieux vaut pas y penser.
Hebergement, a BA minimum 300 E par mois
Si vous voyagez, chambre 20 E ou plus selon le lieu et l affluence de tourisme.
La nourriture reste raisonable et pas encore taxee pour les etrangers, 5 E ou +.
Tour Iguazu 200 E, si vous le faites par vous meme, c est a peu pres equivalent.
Comptez globalement, entre les repas, l hebergement, les transports, visites, sorties et le quotidien 40 E par jour, minimum.
Je donne cette precision parce que les guides sont errones et les sirenes de VF, vous donnent l illusion d une vie pas chere; certes, pour nous, accessible, mais ne croyez pas que vous allez voyager comme en Asie ou en Inde.
J en vois plus d un qui galere !
Pour votre info, je suis en Argentine, j'y ai deja passe 26 jours, et j'ai depense 510 $, soit seulement 400 euros ...
Partez en voyageur, je dis bien en voyageur pour ne pas dire touriste, à Paris, à Rome ou à Londres et vous verrez combien cela coûte.... Et n'oubliez jamais que l'on ne part pas en voyage pour faire des économies sur la couenne de gens beaucoup plus pauvres que nous.
blondin
Bonsoir,
Euh... Nous avons quitté l'argentine le 1 novembre dernier avec moins de 1000 euros de dépense mensuelle pour une famille de 4 personnes en autonomie complète. Ce budget comprend gasoil, nourriture, musée, visites, etc... Je veux bien qu'il y ai de l'inflation mais cela parait très exagéré.
ESPACLA http://espacla.chez-alice.fr
Euh... Nous avons quitté l'argentine le 1 novembre dernier avec moins de 1000 euros de dépense mensuelle pour une famille de 4 personnes en autonomie complète. Ce budget comprend gasoil, nourriture, musée, visites, etc... Je veux bien qu'il y ai de l'inflation mais cela parait très exagéré.
ESPACLA http://espacla.chez-alice.fr
Espacla
🙂Inflation assurément ... j'étais en argentine il y a 1 mois et force de constater que c'est un réalité .... ... mais on est encore bien loin des standards français... on s'oriente plus sur un rééquilibre avec les prix du coté chiliens ... de plus il est possible ... je dis bien possible de trouver des prix raisonnables ... pour vivre avec 400 euros par mois c'est encore faisable mais tout dépend .... du caractère de voyageur ... ou du complet touriste !!... c'est pas les mêmes !!! m^me si au final pour les locaux c'est parfois identique...
A titre d'info j'avais à BA chbre double pour 30 pesos en plein microcentro ... alors que j'étais seul ... donc faisable... sauf si tu te cantonnes au infos des guides et j'en connais un ... de guide.... qui ferait bien de se remettre en question .... 2006-2007 actualisé laissez moi rire !!!...mais bcp de gens ont déjà compris à quel guide je faisait allusion !
En conclusion, les discussions, les sourires et la politesse sont encore efficaces sur cette planète .... heureusement !
A titre d'info j'avais à BA chbre double pour 30 pesos en plein microcentro ... alors que j'étais seul ... donc faisable... sauf si tu te cantonnes au infos des guides et j'en connais un ... de guide.... qui ferait bien de se remettre en question .... 2006-2007 actualisé laissez moi rire !!!...mais bcp de gens ont déjà compris à quel guide je faisait allusion !
En conclusion, les discussions, les sourires et la politesse sont encore efficaces sur cette planète .... heureusement !
Si jeunesse savait et si vieillesse pouvait...!
Alors voila.
Je suis en ce moment meme au terminal de bus d esquel, en patagonie, en attendant mon bus pour comodoro rivadavia qui part dans deux heures et demi. Et mon premier mois, je l ai passe seul pour 500 euros. Et la en environ trois semaines de patagonie j ai depense la meme chose et bientot ce sera plus. J explique les raisons. Effectivement les prix des guides sont errones. Mais de TOUS LES GUIDES sans exception !!! Routard, Petit Fute, Lonely Planet... Bref... Alors effectivement c est facile de pas depenser beaucoup en allant dans des petits boui boui pas cher et en dormant dans des hotels un peu pourris. Effectivement cuisiner soit meme ou avoir une tente c est facile. C est clair qu on peut vivre avec 4 pesonnes pour mille euros par mois avec des enfants. Mais y a quand meme plusieurs choses a voir. la patagonie coute cher, encore plus vers bariloche, encore plus en temporada alta et ce pour deux raisons. La premiere c est que tout est complet ou presque. Donc se permettre de voyager son sac sur le dos un peu comme le vent a cette periode signifie se payer des nuits a 100 pesos et s en trouver heureux. La seconde chose c est que pendant cette temporata alta les prix doublent voire plus. Exemple : l hotel ou j etais a bariloche m a coute 150 pesos par nuit. Parce que l auberge de jeunesse ou j avais reserve, ne me voyant pas arrive, ont donne le lit a quelqu un d autre et se sont retrouvees comme toutes, pleines. Ensuite, l hotel ou j etais coute 150 pesos la nuit en saison haute. Pour une chambre simple. Et 70 pesos et saison basse. Voila deja ca c est dit. ensuite. Si vous aimez manger des super panchos, des samdwichs de milanesa et des empanadas tous les oirs, c est cool. Mais y un moment ou si on aime bien manger, ca suffit plus, et alors on cherche un peu meilleur. Solution : un resto normal. Enfin avec de la viande, des truites pour la region des lacs, et des pates aussi. Avec l eau, sans vin, compter 20 pesos par personne. Cuisiner, c est cool. Encore faut il trouver un endroit ou c est possible de cuisiner. A esquel j ai passe deux nuits dans une auberge ou on ne pouvait pas cuisiner... Ca fait pas plaisir. apres. Voyager seul coute de toutes facons plus cher. Exemple. La nuit a 150 pesos, partagee, aurait coutee 90 pesos par personne. Louer une voiture, tout seul, c est inenvisageable. Et ca c est une regle. Apres si on peut se faire inviter c est cool. Mais se faire inviter par des gens de la region des lacs chez eux, oubliez. Ensuite, tres facile par contre d e rencontrer des gens ailleurs dans un bar ou dans lka rue ou dans un parc ou dans une auberge de jeunesse et d aller ensuite dormir chez ses nouveaux amis. Mais les argentins et les gens de tous les pays du monde verront d un tres mauvais oeil les gens, a fortiori les gringos, demandant l hospitalite. En bolivie il parait que c est different. A ver... dormir en camping, pour un voyage de 6 mois pour moi c est pas possible. Les campings sont toujours loins des lieux, des centres. Faire du stop ca marche pas mal, mais la encore ca depend des endroits. Donc, le bus quasiment tout le temps s impose. Et les argentins sont extremements genereux. Sortez avec des argentins et ils vous offriront a boire, c est un fait. Donc il faut aussi le leur rendre un peu. C est pas un probleme, mais ca s ajoute. derniere chose. Les prix speciaux. Allez a la peninsula valdes. Prouvez que vous etes d ici et vopus paierez 10 pesos. Sinon, si vous etes d europe, ca sera 35 pesos non negociables.
Le probleme qui se pose, et je m y casse les dents, c est l inflation en argentine. Parce qu avant la crise, un peso vallait un dollar. En 2001 crise. Et depuis le peso a perdu 70 % de sa valeur. Mais les gens gagnent plus chaque annee, et les prix grimpent tres vite. L argentine n est pas un pays pauvre. Quasiment aussi riche que le chili. Mais quand meme pas tant en fait.
Effectivement on peut tres vite etre surpris de ce qu on trouvera...
Derniere objection pour les gens qui pont pas depense beaucoup avec des enfants. Exemple. Location d une voiture pour 700 kilometres, d une polo par exemple, 100 a 150 pesos la journee. pour 4 personnes. Pris d un billet de bus en smi cama pour la meme distance : 75 pesos environ. Multiplie par 4 : 300 pesos. Donc le calcul est vite fait. Voyager a 4 ce n est pas depenser 4 fois l argent d une personne... Enfin, ca c est ce qu il me semble...
Je suis en ce moment meme au terminal de bus d esquel, en patagonie, en attendant mon bus pour comodoro rivadavia qui part dans deux heures et demi. Et mon premier mois, je l ai passe seul pour 500 euros. Et la en environ trois semaines de patagonie j ai depense la meme chose et bientot ce sera plus. J explique les raisons. Effectivement les prix des guides sont errones. Mais de TOUS LES GUIDES sans exception !!! Routard, Petit Fute, Lonely Planet... Bref... Alors effectivement c est facile de pas depenser beaucoup en allant dans des petits boui boui pas cher et en dormant dans des hotels un peu pourris. Effectivement cuisiner soit meme ou avoir une tente c est facile. C est clair qu on peut vivre avec 4 pesonnes pour mille euros par mois avec des enfants. Mais y a quand meme plusieurs choses a voir. la patagonie coute cher, encore plus vers bariloche, encore plus en temporada alta et ce pour deux raisons. La premiere c est que tout est complet ou presque. Donc se permettre de voyager son sac sur le dos un peu comme le vent a cette periode signifie se payer des nuits a 100 pesos et s en trouver heureux. La seconde chose c est que pendant cette temporata alta les prix doublent voire plus. Exemple : l hotel ou j etais a bariloche m a coute 150 pesos par nuit. Parce que l auberge de jeunesse ou j avais reserve, ne me voyant pas arrive, ont donne le lit a quelqu un d autre et se sont retrouvees comme toutes, pleines. Ensuite, l hotel ou j etais coute 150 pesos la nuit en saison haute. Pour une chambre simple. Et 70 pesos et saison basse. Voila deja ca c est dit. ensuite. Si vous aimez manger des super panchos, des samdwichs de milanesa et des empanadas tous les oirs, c est cool. Mais y un moment ou si on aime bien manger, ca suffit plus, et alors on cherche un peu meilleur. Solution : un resto normal. Enfin avec de la viande, des truites pour la region des lacs, et des pates aussi. Avec l eau, sans vin, compter 20 pesos par personne. Cuisiner, c est cool. Encore faut il trouver un endroit ou c est possible de cuisiner. A esquel j ai passe deux nuits dans une auberge ou on ne pouvait pas cuisiner... Ca fait pas plaisir. apres. Voyager seul coute de toutes facons plus cher. Exemple. La nuit a 150 pesos, partagee, aurait coutee 90 pesos par personne. Louer une voiture, tout seul, c est inenvisageable. Et ca c est une regle. Apres si on peut se faire inviter c est cool. Mais se faire inviter par des gens de la region des lacs chez eux, oubliez. Ensuite, tres facile par contre d e rencontrer des gens ailleurs dans un bar ou dans lka rue ou dans un parc ou dans une auberge de jeunesse et d aller ensuite dormir chez ses nouveaux amis. Mais les argentins et les gens de tous les pays du monde verront d un tres mauvais oeil les gens, a fortiori les gringos, demandant l hospitalite. En bolivie il parait que c est different. A ver... dormir en camping, pour un voyage de 6 mois pour moi c est pas possible. Les campings sont toujours loins des lieux, des centres. Faire du stop ca marche pas mal, mais la encore ca depend des endroits. Donc, le bus quasiment tout le temps s impose. Et les argentins sont extremements genereux. Sortez avec des argentins et ils vous offriront a boire, c est un fait. Donc il faut aussi le leur rendre un peu. C est pas un probleme, mais ca s ajoute. derniere chose. Les prix speciaux. Allez a la peninsula valdes. Prouvez que vous etes d ici et vopus paierez 10 pesos. Sinon, si vous etes d europe, ca sera 35 pesos non negociables.
Le probleme qui se pose, et je m y casse les dents, c est l inflation en argentine. Parce qu avant la crise, un peso vallait un dollar. En 2001 crise. Et depuis le peso a perdu 70 % de sa valeur. Mais les gens gagnent plus chaque annee, et les prix grimpent tres vite. L argentine n est pas un pays pauvre. Quasiment aussi riche que le chili. Mais quand meme pas tant en fait.
Effectivement on peut tres vite etre surpris de ce qu on trouvera...
Derniere objection pour les gens qui pont pas depense beaucoup avec des enfants. Exemple. Location d une voiture pour 700 kilometres, d une polo par exemple, 100 a 150 pesos la journee. pour 4 personnes. Pris d un billet de bus en smi cama pour la meme distance : 75 pesos environ. Multiplie par 4 : 300 pesos. Donc le calcul est vite fait. Voyager a 4 ce n est pas depenser 4 fois l argent d une personne... Enfin, ca c est ce qu il me semble...
Cool vos infos😉!
J espere un jour mettre les pieds en Argentine.C est toujours un plaisir de lire les recits de vos voyages...
A plus Lexa😎
J espere un jour mettre les pieds en Argentine.C est toujours un plaisir de lire les recits de vos voyages...
A plus Lexa😎
pas tout a fait d accord sur tout
essence se paye le double, l entree sur les sites entre 20 et 300 pour cent exact, ca fait 43 jours en Argrntine a deux moyenne depense journaliere pour 2 56/8 euros MOYENNE en ayant fait le sud qui est beaucoup plus cher, dedans on s est pris 2-3 bastons comme la ruta 40, et, tango a B A a B A CHAMBRE DOUBLE A MOINS DE 80 PESOS SANS probleme entre la plazza 25 des mayo et 9 de JULIO
CELUI OU CELLE QUI VIENT EN AM d SUD CROYANT AVOIR LES PRIX DE L INDE SE MET LE DOIGT DANS L OEIL, mais il ne faut exagerer dans l autre sens non plus
essence se paye le double, l entree sur les sites entre 20 et 300 pour cent exact, ca fait 43 jours en Argrntine a deux moyenne depense journaliere pour 2 56/8 euros MOYENNE en ayant fait le sud qui est beaucoup plus cher, dedans on s est pris 2-3 bastons comme la ruta 40, et, tango a B A a B A CHAMBRE DOUBLE A MOINS DE 80 PESOS SANS probleme entre la plazza 25 des mayo et 9 de JULIO
CELUI OU CELLE QUI VIENT EN AM d SUD CROYANT AVOIR LES PRIX DE L INDE SE MET LE DOIGT DANS L OEIL, mais il ne faut exagerer dans l autre sens non plus
ne marchez jamais sur le chemin tracé
il ne te méne que là ou d'autres sont déjà allés
jps
🙂C com il à dit lui ....."zimzoum" c'est clair net et précis rien à ajouter ....et je précise pour ceux que ça intéresse l'hotel à 30/35 pesos à BA dans le microcentro .... je viens de retrouver la carte c'est "Viamonte" rue du même nom.... à proximité d'un autre hotel préconisé par un "certain guide" mais plus chère ...
Viamonte : chambres correctes ... cuisine équipée et possible sur palier .. TV dans la chambre.... Calme ...laverie ... terrasse avec fils à linge.... toilette sur palier mais propre .... linge de toilette... et le patron parle un peu de français ... un peu !!
Le quartier est sûr de journée ... la nuit il semblerait que qq toXicos et prostituées trainent à proximité du parc en face mais c'est pas non plus la zone ;;;
Idéal après de longues heures de bus ... et pas trop loin de la gare routière ... en taxi 2 pesos ou bus qd même !
Viamonte : chambres correctes ... cuisine équipée et possible sur palier .. TV dans la chambre.... Calme ...laverie ... terrasse avec fils à linge.... toilette sur palier mais propre .... linge de toilette... et le patron parle un peu de français ... un peu !!
Le quartier est sûr de journée ... la nuit il semblerait que qq toXicos et prostituées trainent à proximité du parc en face mais c'est pas non plus la zone ;;;
Idéal après de longues heures de bus ... et pas trop loin de la gare routière ... en taxi 2 pesos ou bus qd même !
Si jeunesse savait et si vieillesse pouvait...!
EN GENERAL A COTE DES HOTELS INDIQUES DANS LES GUIDES IL Y A TOUJOURS D AUTRES HOTELS ET IL FUT FAIRE LE TRI, ET ON TROUVE TOUJOURS AUSSI BIEN SINON MIEUX
ne marchez jamais sur le chemin tracé
il ne te méne que là ou d'autres sont déjà allés
jps
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If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
Everything You Need to Know About Argentina’s Currency Exchange Maze (2026 Edition)
Hi fellow travelers,
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé





