Quelqu un aurait il une experience personnelle de cet endroit? Merci
Ashram d'Osho à Pune en Inde
by Breizhoo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a Tous,
J ai une amie qui s est vu offrir, par un de ses amis, un voyage a l Ashram d Osho.
J ai regarde un peu leur site http://www.osho.com/index.cfm?Language=French
et s en suis reste un peu perplexe....tout le monde en robe rouge ou blanche, messes collectives, test VIH a l entree....🤪.euh je ne sais quoi penser!!!!
Les peu d infos que j ai trouve sur VF, ne sont pas pour me rassurer (lavage de cerveau, orgies romaines????).Difficile de faire le tri entre la realite et les "on dit que..."
Quelqu un aurait il une experience personnelle de cet endroit? Merci
Quelqu un aurait il une experience personnelle de cet endroit? Merci
"Allons-y, puisque le jour se leve encore...!"
Surly LHT Deluxe...je l'aurai un jour, je l'aurai!!!
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
hello!!😉
Je ne connais pas vraiment bien l'Ashram d'Osho en Inde, J'ai 2 amies qui y sont restées des années, au moins dix ans je crois. c'est des gens qui se voient pour méditer de différentes façon (chant, rires, cris,
musique indienne et sons etc......) Lors d'un voyage au Mexique que j'ai fait avec la soeur d'une de ces filles, nous sommes allées dans un centre Osho avec une fille Mexicaine chez qui on crêchait, et on s'est assise en tailleur, ils ont fait des sons de musique indienne et on faisait des ÔM et ça nous a bien détendu. Personne n'était en robe rouge... Je sais que le siège c'est justement l'Ashram en inde, et peut-être que là-bas ils sont vêtus plus spécialement..
Es-tu sûre qu'ils font des test HIV à l'entrée???ça c'est quand-même bizare!!! 🤪En tout cas dans le centre au Mexique rien a signaler!!! Je sais qu'il y a des centres un peu partout dans le monde. Tu peux trouver des livres sur Osho, ce monsieur est mort et les gens continus de méditer selon sont enseignement.
Voili voilou, j'espère t'avoir aidé un chtit peu!
Tu peux me répondre à mon adresse:
🙂
carine.blanc@hotmail.com
salut,
pour ce qui des lavages cerveaux et d orgies.... je ne sais pas!!!!
En revanche en ce qui concerne le test VIH, oui j en suis sur puisque ils le disent tres clairement et sans detour, sur leur site:
"Pour entrer au Club Méditation et bénéficier de ces facilités, vous devez vous inscrire au Centre d´Accueil "Welcome Center" et procéder sur place à un test de séropositivité négative."
On ne peut pas etre plus clair!!!!!😮
"Pour entrer au Club Méditation et bénéficier de ces facilités, vous devez vous inscrire au Centre d´Accueil "Welcome Center" et procéder sur place à un test de séropositivité négative."
On ne peut pas etre plus clair!!!!!😮
"Allons-y, puisque le jour se leve encore...!"
Surly LHT Deluxe...je l'aurai un jour, je l'aurai!!!
J'suis pas allée voir le site...j'suis allée que 2 fois dans ce centre au Mexique et y'avait ni prise de sang ni rien de tout ça, c'était juste de la méditation et du yoga, après je ne sais pas ce qui se passe en Inde, les 2 filles que je connais qui y sont allées ne m'ont rien dit dans les détails alors je ne sais pas... Elles ont pas l'ai atteintes, mais avec les ''ont pas l'air '' on ne peut jamais vraiment être sûre!!!
J'espère que tout ira bien, va voir pour trouver des bouquins??
Je suis allée visiter cet ashram il y a 3 ans, (ils organisent des visites guidées) et effectivement, il y a un test si tu souhaites faire des stages, l'ensemble m'a paru très sectaire, uniformes, rites, et surtout une boite à fric...Tout y est a vendre ou acheter....Très franchement, je déconseillerais d'y rester....D'ailleurs les stages sont très chers et n'attirent en majorité que des occidentaux...
Merci pour toutes les reponses....au vu des reflexions sur VF, mon amie a laisse tomber l idee d aller labas et je crois que c est une bonne chose...🙂
merci a tous!
"Allons-y, puisque le jour se leve encore...!"
Surly LHT Deluxe...je l'aurai un jour, je l'aurai!!!
Bonjour,
je m'appelle Stéphane. Concernant l'ashram d'Osho, je peus te renseigner avec précision étant donné que j'y ai séjourné 3 mois l'année passée. Tout dabord j'ai découvert Osho en lisant certains de ses livres. Je n'ai absolument pas d'antécédants "spirituel" si je puis dire exepté l'attrait pour certaine technique de bien être, et c'est tout à fait par hasard que je suis tombé sur ces bouquins. Ce qui m'a plu dans ses discours c'est un point de vue sur le monde qui partirait de soi, de la réjouissance, de la relaxation, de la conscience de vivre! Ce qu'il dit est simple et en même temps on peus percevoir que c'est assez essentiel, et ce que je trouve bien c'est qu'il s'inspire de différentes techniques existantes comme le tantra, le zen, le tao, le boudhisme etc.....
Bref, pour en revenir à l'ashram j'avais décidé avant mon voyage en Inde de séjourner dans celui-ci, mais exactement comme toi je fus un peus éffrayé en voyant la description du lieu sur le site Osho.com. Tout ces gens habillé en robe rouge, et puis cela ne me paraissait pas très sérieux. Je décidai donc ne pas y aller! finalement lors de mon séjour au Rhadjastan je rencontrai quelqun qui me dit beaucoup de bien de l'endroit. Je pris alors la décision de m'y rendre. Et finalement je vécu une très belle expérience! Par rapport aux robes rouges, une fois que tu acceptes ce principe ce n'est pas plus particulier que de porter un costume cravate. C'est une façon de mettre tout le monde au même niveau, de plus tu ne dois pas la porter lors des activités du soir. Il faut savoir que cet endroit est magnifique, qu'il possède une très belle piscine, qu'il y a énormément d'activités et puis surtout il y a moyen d'aborder différentes formes de méditations, et ca c'est génial! Ils proposent un nombre incroyable de groupes thérapeutiques. Alors par rapport au sexe, franchement cela fait partie de l'imagerie du lieu, cela devait être le cas dans les années 80. Il est vrai que l'atmosphère est sensuelle, la danse est très présente par exemple et il y a qu'il y a moyen d'expérimenter certaines choses. Mais cela dépend de chacun. Sinon il est clair qu'il y a des gens plus excéssif, mais pas plus qu'autre part finalement. Alors par rapport au lavage de cerveau il ne faut vraiment pas s'inquiéter, rien n'est imposer dans cet endroit, même si bien entendu on te propose une vision du monde. Les gens qui vont la proviennent du monde entier et n'ont pas un profil particulier. Tu peus très bien passer ta journée à la piscine et jouer au tennis comme vivre une véritable expérience de transformation. Voila, donc il ne faut vraiment pas avoir peur. Par contre il est possible que ce genre d'atmosphère ne te conviens pas. Je penses quand même qu'il faut avoir envie d'aller à la rencontre de son enseignement pour aller la bas, ou en tout cas être curieux de découvrir son univers. C'est un bisness aussi, ce qui choque certaine personnes. Mais je peus te dire que j'y ai passé du bon temps, et que c'est un superbe endroit pour se retrouver. Good Luck
merci d avoir pris le tps de me repondre. Ce voyage n etait pas pour moi, et la personne concernee a laisse tomber l idee d y aller. Mais ton descriptif servira certainement a d autres personnes. Merci.
bye
"Allons-y, puisque le jour se leve encore...!"
Surly LHT Deluxe...je l'aurai un jour, je l'aurai!!!
J'écris ce texte pour ceux qui regardent comme je l'ai fait aujourd'hui ce que pensent les personnes qui y sont allés
je suis allé dans cet Ashram en 1996. Dans ce lieu Vous pouvez pratiquer une recherche personnelle en toute sécurité c'est pourquoi au départ il y a une prise de sang pour faire une recherche VIH et Hépatite C.La robe rouge la journée est pour donner une homogénité au groupe La blanche c'est le soir pour écouter les discours d'Osho sur un écran télé ce n'est pas obligatoire et comme il parle en anglais je n'y suis jamais allé en un mois. Pas de lavage de cerveau. Pas d'orgies. Des stages divers à un prix raisonnable pour la qualité (air conditionnée, batiments impécables, eau potable partout, nourriture saine végétarienne lavée à l'eau potable) Tout cela a un prix et en 96 je me sentais en sécurité sanitaire. Le logement est à votre choix en dehors de l'ashram. Vous achetez une carte à points et chaque matin on vous la poinçonne pour entrer manger et pour les activités en dehors des méditations. Bien qu'il n'y avait pas d'orgies romaines ou pas je garde un très bon souvenir de ce séjour et vous pouvez y aller sans crainte et en partir quand vous le désirez car personne ne vous prend en charge. Bon voyage
JR36
Dans ce lieu Vous pouvez pratiquer une recherche personnelle en toute sécurité c'est pourquoi au départ il y a une prise de sang pour faire une recherche VIH et Hépatite C.
Excuse moi, mais j'ai peut-être raté quelque chose mais franchement je ne vois pas le rapport ?! C'est pas un peu exagéré ? Comprends pas 😕
Excuse moi, mais j'ai peut-être raté quelque chose mais franchement je ne vois pas le rapport ?! C'est pas un peu exagéré ? Comprends pas 😕
Bonjour,
j'ai donc fréquenté l'ashram pendant 3 mois, ce qui fut une expérience fantastique. Alors, c'est vrai que ce test VIH est quelque chose de très discutable. C'est je dirais l'élément qui m'a procuré un certain malaise. Cela date de l'époque de l'apparition du sida, et Osho qui était vivant à cette époque à eut une réaction assez paranoiaque par rapport à cette maladie, et c'est suite à cela que le test est apparu. Il faut dire qu'en ce temps l'exploration sexuelle était très répendue dans l'ashram, ce qui n'est plus le cas aujourd'hui, bien qu'il y a encore une atmosphère sensuelle évidente. Personellement je ne suis pas d'accord avec cela, c'est une forme d'exclusion arbitraire inacceptable. Mais sinon, c'est un endroit formidable!
Je n'étais pas rentré dans les détails mais le Gouvernement Indien n'avait laissé Bagwan revenir à Pune que sous certaines conditions.........c'est pourquoi un changement radical avait été fait Pas de sexe Pas de sida ce qui coïncidait avec l'âge de Bagwan d'où les visites organisées et le test Donc l'exclusion qui peut vous choquer était obligatoire. C'est un peu trop compliquer à expliquer pour quelqu'un qui ne connaîtrait pas l'histoire de Rasjnet Bagwan Osho.
Il y a pas grande chose à dire sauf que OSHO est une secte - c'est pas moi qui le dit c'est l'assemblée nationale: http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/rap-enq/r2468.asp - plus bas dans le rapport vous trouverez OSHO section Mouvements sectaires de 50 à 500 adeptes.
Si vous voulez voir plus sur leur gourou, voici un lien: http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/fr/Osho
Autre lien qui peut vous intéresser (pdf): http://www.prevensectes.com/rajneesh.pdf
Pour tirer une conclusion, oui des enseignements OSHO sont bien. On parle de choses qui peuvent être belles , mais c'est tout simplement une simple base pour manipuler. Certes, ils ont une vision qui peut interpeler et libre à chacun d'y adhérer ou pas. La plupart des théories sont tirées de plusieurs concepts et religions (on trouve aussi les bases du Bouddisme, etc..).
Libre à chaque personne d'y aller et de voir, mais au moins soyez au courant ou vous mettez les pieds avant de "vous perdre dans cet univers"...
Si vous voulez voir plus sur leur gourou, voici un lien: http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/fr/Osho
Autre lien qui peut vous intéresser (pdf): http://www.prevensectes.com/rajneesh.pdf
Pour tirer une conclusion, oui des enseignements OSHO sont bien. On parle de choses qui peuvent être belles , mais c'est tout simplement une simple base pour manipuler. Certes, ils ont une vision qui peut interpeler et libre à chacun d'y adhérer ou pas. La plupart des théories sont tirées de plusieurs concepts et religions (on trouve aussi les bases du Bouddisme, etc..).
Libre à chaque personne d'y aller et de voir, mais au moins soyez au courant ou vous mettez les pieds avant de "vous perdre dans cet univers"...
Bonjour,
j'aprécie le caractère du message, dans le sens ou il met en avant un point de vue négatif sur l'ashram, tout en reconnaissant des qualités possibles. Alors d'abord, il faut reprendre à zéro. Moi j'ai pris connaissance d'Osho, par les publications reprenant ces discours. C'est quelqu'un qui a sut prendre à gauche et à droite, mélanger toutes sortes de pensées orientales et occidentales. Et ce qu'il raconte est très vivant, très enthousiasment : mais finalement il a reprit des choses qui existait déjà. La première question qu'il faut poser est celle d'une recherche de spiritualité. Qu'est ce que la spiritualité? Ce n'est pas partir sur une autre planète et être hors de la réalité, ni s'enfermer dans des dogmes verrouillé. C'est de trouver des moyens de se libérer des chaînes qui nous empêchent d'être en contact avec nous-mêmes, et avec le monde. C'est essayer de retrouver le sens de l'intuition et de la relation. Alors pour ça, des méthodes ont existés de tout temps dans toutes les sociétés et formes de religions. C'est par exemple la méditation, qui existait même en occident. Il y a une différence entre un véritable lavage de cerveau, qui existe dans certains groupes sectaires, et l'enseignement d'une technique de transformation. L'ashram d'Osho est une sorte de club med de la méditation, c'est aussi un endroit ou on danse tout le temps. Voila, moi ce qui me rend dingue c'est la critique systématique de quelque chose que l'on rejette de toute façon au départ. Par exemple, j'aime beaucoup le jazz, mais il y a des genres dans le jazz, et des morceaux que je n'aime pas du tout; quelqu'un qui n'aime pas le jazz au départ, aura tendance à tout mettre dans le même sac. C'est comme dire que la marijuana c'est la même chose que l'héroine. Il y a aussi ceux qui fonctionnent avec la raison, qui ne peuvent pas comprendre un seul instant, ce qu'est la recherche de spiritualité; car justement cela demande une forme de lacher prise qui fait appel à d'autre fonctionnement que la raison. Alors moi, je suis père de famille, artiste et professeur et j'ai une vie absolument normale. Je suis tout à fait daccord de pouvoir critiquer un lieu comme l'ashram d'Osho; ainsi que lui-même pour certains aspects, je peux tout à fait comprendre que certains considère cela comme une secte (tout le monde est habillé en robe rouge, on danse tout le temps, il y a une époque apparemment qui était un peu barée...), et je ne sais même pas si j'y retournerai un jour, par contre c'est un endroit ou j'ai passé un moment absolument fantastique. Alors que l'on arrête de prendre les gens pour des débiles, la majorité est responsable, et même dans des moments de fragilité est capable de faire la différence entre un guas qui raconte qu'il faut croire dans les extra-terestres et l'Hasram d'Osho.
Wow, mais quelle haine 😮 Il faut rester zen... 🙂 et aussi, ne pas me faire dire ce que j'ai pas dit. Et non pas non plus insinuer que je prends les gens pour des débiles. Je pensais qu'un professeur pourrait avoir un autre discours que celui que vous employez.
Primo, j'apporte des informations qui sont disponibles sur le site de l'Assemblée nationale. Donc insinuer que c'est moi qui a mis OSHO dans la liste des sectes, c'est tout a fait erroné. Deuxièmement, vous parlez de la méditation et du bénéfice de la méditation. Très bien, je vois pas en quoi j'ai dis le contraire.
Si vous avez un problème avec le fait que OSHO est considérée secte en France, il faut s'en prendre à l'agence de lute contre les sectes de l'État Français du coup et a toutes les associations qui font le même travail.
Ce qui me gêne en plus, c'est que vous ne tenez pas compte dans votre argumentaire de la détresse d'une famille qui se retrouve coupée d'un enfant - même majeur - qui lui a décidé de rompre avec sa famille pour vivre dans un centre OSHO. Pour moi c'est du vécu.
Certes, vous dites que les gens ne sont pas dupes et de plus vous vous donnez comme exemple "père de famille, artiste et professeur" pour crédibiliser cette organisation - entre nous, les scientologues le font aussi - mais malheureusement, la plupart des gens qui sont en quête de spiritualité et d'une alternative à la société que l'on nous propose sont souvent très intelligents et même brillants. Mais comme par hasard, eux aussi peuvent se trouver "coincés" pendant des années dans cet espace privé ou il font en gros un travail "d'évangélisation" pour le compte de la secte. Vous allez me servir qu'ils sont majeurs et que c'est leur choix. C'est exact, mais au moins ceux qui veulent cette expérience, doivent le savoir dés le début et comprendre ou ils mettent les pieds. Encore une fois, je fais juste un travail d'information.
Aussi n'essayez pas de ridiculiser mes dires en disant que OSHO est secte dans la vision de certains juste parce que, je vous cite: " tout le monde est habillé en robe rouge et on danse tout le temps..." . Si c'était pour ca j'aurais peut-être dit aussi que la Gay Pride est une secte. Vous savez aussi bien que moi que si des groupes de spécialistes déterminent qu'une organisation est sectaire, c'est pas pour la danse ni pour leur "costumes"...
Et dernier point, le message initial parlait du test HIV avant d'entrer dans le centre. Expliquez cela en termes simples pour les gens. Moi je vous traduit ce qu'il est écrit sur le site OSHO à vous d'en tirer les conclusions:
"L'approche de OSHO concernant le HIV est très inhabituelle. Dés le début de l'épidémie, avant que cela était même prouvé qu'il s'agissait d'un virus transmissible, OSHO était certain que le HIV était plus qu'une maladie banale. Il avait le potentiel d'être une pandémie majeure. Son approche a été dés le début de faire des tests régulièrement et d'appliquer le meilleures mesures scientifiques pour que les relations sexuelles soient protégées. L'approche de OSHO concernant le sexe est aussi inhabituelle."
source, leur site officiel : http://www.osho.com/...medresort.cfm#memo16
En anglais: "Osho's approach to Aids is very unusual. From the beginning of the epidemic, before it was even sure that it was of viral origin, Osho was clear that AIDS was more than just "another disease."It had the potential to be a major pandemic. His guidance from those earliest days was to be tested regularly, and to apply all the best scientific measures for safer sex. The Osho approach to sex is also unusual. "
Par ailleurs, expliquez aussi a Maroesja Perizonius pourquoi elle a trouvé qu'on attendais d'elle qu'elle ait des rapports sexuels à partir de 13 ans quand sa mère l'a amenée dans un centre OSHO - voir le documentaire " La mère, l'enfant et le gourou" en version Française ou "Child of the commune" version anglaise. Ce documentaire est passé sur Arte d'ailleurs.
Sur ce, je ne veux pas entrer dans le jeu des répliques, c'est pas le but de mon message et de plus je pressente ici ma vision personnelle qui par ailleurs est documentée des 2 cotés - je lis des livres OSHO et je trouve une partie de tout ce qu'il est écrit très bien. Le résultat en fin de course, malheureusement, a été destructeur pour plein de gens et il me semble normal de le dire. Vouloir me ridiculiser est pas trop digne et il me semble, est même un peu manipulateur 😛
PS: Je fais partie d'aucune association de lute contre les sectes et de plus j'ai des amis qui vivent dans des centres OSHO.
Primo, j'apporte des informations qui sont disponibles sur le site de l'Assemblée nationale. Donc insinuer que c'est moi qui a mis OSHO dans la liste des sectes, c'est tout a fait erroné. Deuxièmement, vous parlez de la méditation et du bénéfice de la méditation. Très bien, je vois pas en quoi j'ai dis le contraire.
Si vous avez un problème avec le fait que OSHO est considérée secte en France, il faut s'en prendre à l'agence de lute contre les sectes de l'État Français du coup et a toutes les associations qui font le même travail.
Ce qui me gêne en plus, c'est que vous ne tenez pas compte dans votre argumentaire de la détresse d'une famille qui se retrouve coupée d'un enfant - même majeur - qui lui a décidé de rompre avec sa famille pour vivre dans un centre OSHO. Pour moi c'est du vécu.
Certes, vous dites que les gens ne sont pas dupes et de plus vous vous donnez comme exemple "père de famille, artiste et professeur" pour crédibiliser cette organisation - entre nous, les scientologues le font aussi - mais malheureusement, la plupart des gens qui sont en quête de spiritualité et d'une alternative à la société que l'on nous propose sont souvent très intelligents et même brillants. Mais comme par hasard, eux aussi peuvent se trouver "coincés" pendant des années dans cet espace privé ou il font en gros un travail "d'évangélisation" pour le compte de la secte. Vous allez me servir qu'ils sont majeurs et que c'est leur choix. C'est exact, mais au moins ceux qui veulent cette expérience, doivent le savoir dés le début et comprendre ou ils mettent les pieds. Encore une fois, je fais juste un travail d'information.
Aussi n'essayez pas de ridiculiser mes dires en disant que OSHO est secte dans la vision de certains juste parce que, je vous cite: " tout le monde est habillé en robe rouge et on danse tout le temps..." . Si c'était pour ca j'aurais peut-être dit aussi que la Gay Pride est une secte. Vous savez aussi bien que moi que si des groupes de spécialistes déterminent qu'une organisation est sectaire, c'est pas pour la danse ni pour leur "costumes"...
Et dernier point, le message initial parlait du test HIV avant d'entrer dans le centre. Expliquez cela en termes simples pour les gens. Moi je vous traduit ce qu'il est écrit sur le site OSHO à vous d'en tirer les conclusions:
"L'approche de OSHO concernant le HIV est très inhabituelle. Dés le début de l'épidémie, avant que cela était même prouvé qu'il s'agissait d'un virus transmissible, OSHO était certain que le HIV était plus qu'une maladie banale. Il avait le potentiel d'être une pandémie majeure. Son approche a été dés le début de faire des tests régulièrement et d'appliquer le meilleures mesures scientifiques pour que les relations sexuelles soient protégées. L'approche de OSHO concernant le sexe est aussi inhabituelle."
source, leur site officiel : http://www.osho.com/...medresort.cfm#memo16
En anglais: "Osho's approach to Aids is very unusual. From the beginning of the epidemic, before it was even sure that it was of viral origin, Osho was clear that AIDS was more than just "another disease."It had the potential to be a major pandemic. His guidance from those earliest days was to be tested regularly, and to apply all the best scientific measures for safer sex. The Osho approach to sex is also unusual. "
Par ailleurs, expliquez aussi a Maroesja Perizonius pourquoi elle a trouvé qu'on attendais d'elle qu'elle ait des rapports sexuels à partir de 13 ans quand sa mère l'a amenée dans un centre OSHO - voir le documentaire " La mère, l'enfant et le gourou" en version Française ou "Child of the commune" version anglaise. Ce documentaire est passé sur Arte d'ailleurs.
Sur ce, je ne veux pas entrer dans le jeu des répliques, c'est pas le but de mon message et de plus je pressente ici ma vision personnelle qui par ailleurs est documentée des 2 cotés - je lis des livres OSHO et je trouve une partie de tout ce qu'il est écrit très bien. Le résultat en fin de course, malheureusement, a été destructeur pour plein de gens et il me semble normal de le dire. Vouloir me ridiculiser est pas trop digne et il me semble, est même un peu manipulateur 😛
PS: Je fais partie d'aucune association de lute contre les sectes et de plus j'ai des amis qui vivent dans des centres OSHO.
Je tiens à m'excuser!
j'ai été maladroit, et par contre lorsque je parlais de prendre les gens pour des débiles, je ne m'adressais pas à vous en particulier. J'ai été réactif, alors que finalement vous n'avez fais que citer des faits et mettre en garde les gens; ce qui est très bien. Je pense qu'actuellement l'ashram d'Osho est plus un centre (spirituel) de vacance qu'un véritable ashram. Moi ce que j'ai fais, c'est de participer un groupe et d'expérimenter les différentes méditations. Ce n'est plus comme à l'époque, ou les gens quittaient tout pour venir se retirer du monde, cela existe encore, mais c'est moins fréquent. Et puis cela coûte assez cher en fait. 😕 Bon sans rancune!
Stéphane
je suis amusé de lire le mot "haine" et le conseil de rester "Zen" car ce qui a été dit sur l'Ashram d'Osho par des personnes qui ont séjourné dans cet Ashram (ce qui est mon cas)devraient vous interesser car c'est un vécu d'une personne qui est restée 3mois Il est reparti sans avoir subi de pression ni de tentative de lui prendre son patrimoine comme dans certaines sectes dangereuses.
La France a mis OSHO dans les sectes. Ce n'est pas l'Ashran d'Osho à Pune en Inde mais ce que des individus qui se réclament d'Osho ont créé en France. Je ne connais pas ces ou ce centre. Par contre j'en ai visité un au Népal près de Khatmandou en 96 c'était un trés beau lieu de stages mais il n'y avait personne lors de mon passage. Ce n'était donc pas un lieu où on enferme les gens pour les plumer.
Vous parlez d'un cas de d'adulte qui a choisi de rompre avec la vie traditionnelle pour vivre dites-vous dans un centre Osho
Si vous pensez que ce centre exerce une pression sur cette personne et qu'elle n'est plus libre de partir comme nous avons lu des exemples dans certaines sectes il faut donner l'adresse de cette"secte" pour protéger les futurs candidats.
En France le bien être est un tavail et pour gagner de l'argent il faut un logo et Osho en est un. Certains animateurs font un bon travail et d'autres pas c'est à chacun d'entre nous de choisir.
Revenons à l'Ashran d'Osho à Pune en Inde
En 1996 j'y ai séjourné un mois
Par rapport à l'Inde j'ai été impressionné par l'hygiène et la qualité des installation.
J'ai accepté la prise de sang car ce contrôle IVH et la visite du centre par le public étaient imposés par l'Etat.
La tenue orange pour tous me semblait naturel dans un centre de méditation
Un système de carte avec des points me laissait faire ce que je voulais. Ce n'étais pas donné pour l'inde mais la qualité n'était pas celle que l'on trouvait en inde à cette époque.
J'ai suivi un stage de massage (j'étais spécialiste avant de partir)
Pour dormir il fallait prendre une chambre à l'extérieur du centre donc rentrer volontairement chaque matin
Je n'ai subi aucune pression aucun endoctrinement et je compte y retourner pour voir l'évolution
Il est possible que les choses aient changé
Donc je ne vois pas en dehors du fait que les prestations ne sont pas données pourquoi je déconseillerai ce centre pour quelqu'un qui veut faire un travail en toute idépendance sur lui même
JR
cher crommyon, je veux dire quelques mots par rapport a ta conversation avec dayavasant au sujet d ' osho.
Je ne te connais pas, je ne te jugerai pas même si je te connaissais. Mais je veux simplement te dire que tu est dans l’ignorance tout simplement, tu juges quelque chose que tu ne connais pas. As-tu déjà vécu, pratiquer une méditation d'osho ( dynamique, kundalini...). Tu est comme un enfant devant un plat qu'il trouve pas bon, alors qu'il n'y a pas encore goûté.
Pratique, ouvre ton coeur. Et contact moi avec l’expérience vécu.
Namaste
Je ne te connais pas, je ne te jugerai pas même si je te connaissais. Mais je veux simplement te dire que tu est dans l’ignorance tout simplement, tu juges quelque chose que tu ne connais pas. As-tu déjà vécu, pratiquer une méditation d'osho ( dynamique, kundalini...). Tu est comme un enfant devant un plat qu'il trouve pas bon, alors qu'il n'y a pas encore goûté.
Pratique, ouvre ton coeur. Et contact moi avec l’expérience vécu.
Namaste
Entièrement d'accord avec vous.
J'ai remarqué qu'aucune personne ayant séjourné chez Osho Pune n'a témoigné de pratiques contraignantes cherchant à le priver de sa liberté physique ou psychique:
Le fait de dormir en dehors du centre permet à chacun de revenir au centre chaque matin ou pas.
Le système de carte à points permet tout au long de la journée de choisir son emploi du temps et ses dépenses(en dehors des stages facultatifs)
Les méditations dynamiques sont gratuites et ont lieu plusieurs fois par jour dans un lieu qui peut accueillir plusieurs centaines de personnes avec une sonorisation parfaite. Chaque méditation comporte plusieurs phases limitées par un gong. L'idée originale d'Osho c'est que l'on ne peut pas passer de la vie à l'état de méditation sans une phase intermédiaire où le corps s'exprime librement et individuellement. Le travail est personnel aucune intervention de qui que ce soit(sauf du gong qui détermine les phases)
Tout se pratique dans un lieu d'une propreté digne des Suisses Allemandes qui étaient au comité directeur du centre en 96.
Mais celà un prix et c'est pourquoi le titre de "Club Mèd de la Méditation" n'est pas péjoratif.
Maintenant tout celà ne peut fonctionner qu'avec une équipe bien organisée et militante. J'avais fait un ami français qui participait au travail de cette équipe(il était comptable) durant ses congés comme d'autres anciens adèptes d'Osho. Ils existaient des permanents. Il me semble qu'ils partageaient entre eux un idéal secret que la vie économique du centre leur permettait d'entretenir dans le temps. Mais la encore je n'ai détecté aucune contrainte
Pour faire vivre une grande communité la robe rouge n'a rien d'inquiétant et pas plus que le soir pour faire revivre à l'aide de K7 télé Osho une robe blanche pour ceux qui veulent l'écouter
Reste la prise de sang là je l'ai déjà expliqué: l'Ashram de Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh et pour finir Osho a eu une vie mouvementée et des objectifs qui ont évolué avec le temps et l'époque. A vous de faire des recherches on trouve tout sur internet
Après son retour mouvementé des USA il n'a pu revenir à Pune que sur certaines conditions: Entre autre en denant des garantis comme un centre ouvert chaque matin à la visite du public qui le désire(moyennant le paiement d'une entrée) et une prise de sang pour garantir que l'Ashram ne serait pas un centre de probagation du SIDA en Inde. Le grand maître du Tantrisme avec l'âge était devenu Zen et déjà en 96 il n'y avait plus d'initiation tantriques comme aux premiers jours dans les cabanes du bord du fleuve!
Donc vous pouvez si vous le désirez aller voir par vous même l'évolution de ce centre j'espère que comme moi même en 96 vous en raménerez une expérience personnelle enrichissante
cher jr 36, merci pour ces conseils, cela me sera utile car j'envisage cette première expérience l'année prochaine.
Mais pour être honnête avec toi, j'ai un peu la boule au ventre a y partir seul...Mais j'en ai tellement envie....
Toi qui pratique les méditations d'osho, connais tu le centre espace healing à coté de Montélimar, j'y ai fais quelques groupes sympa et d'ailleurs je vais y passer le réveillon du jour de l'an.
As tu une adresse mail, on pourrait partager quelques mots.
Salutations.
Seb
Toi qui pratique les méditations d'osho, connais tu le centre espace healing à coté de Montélimar, j'y ai fais quelques groupes sympa et d'ailleurs je vais y passer le réveillon du jour de l'an.
As tu une adresse mail, on pourrait partager quelques mots.
Salutations.
Seb
Bonjour à tous,
Je pratique la méditation bouddhiste (Vipassana et Zen) depuis 7 ans. J'ai fait quelques week-ends de méditation tantrique avec cet enseignant en France. Dans le cadre de mon tour tour du monde sur 2 ans (voir mon blog ici), j'envisage de passer 1 ou 2 semaines dans l'ashram d'Osho à Pune en février ou mars 2015 (comme l'a fait récemment un autre "tourdumondiste"), mais je me pose quelques questions (je trouve que sur le site de l'ashram d'Osho les réponses ne sont pas très claires, idem sur ce site indépendant français) : - quelle est la durée minimale d'un séjour dans cet ashram ? peut-on y aller 3-4 jours ou une semaine seulement ? - quel est le coût minimum d'un séjour d'une semaine ? (cours + hébergement) peut-on aller là-bas avec un budget "routard" (dans le cadre d'un tour du monde on ne peut pas faire trop de folies côté budget) ; j'ai lu quelque part sur internet que cet ashram est assez luxueux et que c'est une sorte de "Club Med de la méditation"... vrai ou faux ? - quels sont les échos récents que vous en avez eu ? - est-ce qu'on y fait surtout de la méditation tantrique (= à 2) ou bien est-ce que c'est une des méditations parmi d'autres qu'on peut choisir ?
Merci ! 🙂 Frédéric
Je pratique la méditation bouddhiste (Vipassana et Zen) depuis 7 ans. J'ai fait quelques week-ends de méditation tantrique avec cet enseignant en France. Dans le cadre de mon tour tour du monde sur 2 ans (voir mon blog ici), j'envisage de passer 1 ou 2 semaines dans l'ashram d'Osho à Pune en février ou mars 2015 (comme l'a fait récemment un autre "tourdumondiste"), mais je me pose quelques questions (je trouve que sur le site de l'ashram d'Osho les réponses ne sont pas très claires, idem sur ce site indépendant français) : - quelle est la durée minimale d'un séjour dans cet ashram ? peut-on y aller 3-4 jours ou une semaine seulement ? - quel est le coût minimum d'un séjour d'une semaine ? (cours + hébergement) peut-on aller là-bas avec un budget "routard" (dans le cadre d'un tour du monde on ne peut pas faire trop de folies côté budget) ; j'ai lu quelque part sur internet que cet ashram est assez luxueux et que c'est une sorte de "Club Med de la méditation"... vrai ou faux ? - quels sont les échos récents que vous en avez eu ? - est-ce qu'on y fait surtout de la méditation tantrique (= à 2) ou bien est-ce que c'est une des méditations parmi d'autres qu'on peut choisir ?
Merci ! 🙂 Frédéric
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Bonjour,
Mon passage dans l'Ashram d'Osho à Pune date de 96 et nous sommes en 2014
Déterminer une durée à priori de 1 ou 2 semaines me paraît ou trop long ou trop court.
je vais vous d'écrire ce que j'ai vécu
A l'arrivée vous passez un test HIV c'était pour faire plaisir au gouvernement indien qui surveillait le retour d'Osho à Pune et qui se souvenait des barbus chevelus qui construisaient des huttes près du fleuve qui pratiquaient le tantrisme pas seulement sous la forme de méditation et "fumaient" de l'herbe.
Ceci dit on vous donne une carte qui vous permet d'entrer et de participer à des activités gratuites( en particulier aux séances de méditation dynamique) et d'autres payantes(stages diverses). Vous achetez des bons qui vous permettront de manger, d'aller à la piscine jouer au tennis............
.On ne dormait pas dans l'Ashram cela me semblait très important pour ma liberté. Donc c'est à vous selon votre budget de choisir l'hôtel qui vous convient.
Pour les dépenses vous pouvez rester sans dépenser grand chose, mais vous serez tenté par des stages qui ne sont pas donnés sans exagération cependant et de très bonnes qualités
Je suis resté au moins 4 ou 5 semaines en suivant quelques stages bien choisis et j'étais très content mais le tantrisme que j'étais venu cherché n'était plus dispensé. Il ma semblé qu'il y avait un ashram dans l'ashram constitué par des permanents d'anciens permanents pour qui l'ashram était le moyen de vivre leur spiritualité(à l'ancienne) tout en soignant leurs finances mais je n'ai aucune preuve de ce que j'avance
Pour 96 j'ai trouvé une hygiène qui ne correspondait pas au reste de lInde et une organisation parfaite. La direction était assurée par des suisses allemandes.
Osho, en 70, enseignait les pratiques sexuelles tantriques, sur le bord du fleuve. Le temps a passé , l'âge et les ennuis aux USA il est revenu à Pune il était devenu Zen comme l'exigeait le gouvernement indien J'aimais bien ses livres Son Ashram vaut une visite vous y trouverez ses livres des CD pour les méditations et vous pourrez vous recharger car 10 mois d'Asie ça fatigue
J'espère que j'ai répondu à vos questions et je reste à votre disposition. Pendant mon dernier voyage en Inde en 2011 j'ai exploré les sources du Gange Haridwar Richikech Daramsala et Manali en 6 semaines Je ne vois pas Kathmandou dans votre projet c'est dommage . Les Philippines c'est super La Malaisie Singapour c'est très moderne. Pour l'Amérique du sud les portugais et les espagnols étaient des colonisateurs sanguinaires ils ont donné peu de valeur à la vie et il faut être très prudent
cordialement
JR
Bonjour, et merci pour cette réponse très intéressante !
J'aimerais avoir aussi des témoignages de personnes qui y ont séjourné plus récemment, car les choses peuvent avoir beaucoup changé en 18 ans...
Encore merci 🙂
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Hello,
We’ve already traveled to India twice before, but only for two-week stretches (2013, a loop from Mumbai including Hampi, and in 2019, Tamil Nadu). This time, we’re leaving at the end of October for nearly three months of travel—something completely new for us! We’ll arrive in Delhi and depart from Bangalore. Our goal is to explore Northern India and then head down to Kerala, taking a maximum of one flight and prioritizing trains.
Traveling for this long should let us plan longer stops to slow down the pace and fully enjoy our trip...
What are the places you’ve loved with this in mind? I’ve already thought of Gokarna... Do you have any other suggestions, especially in Northern India? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Traveling for this long should let us plan longer stops to slow down the pace and fully enjoy our trip...
What are the places you’ve loved with this in mind? I’ve already thought of Gokarna... Do you have any other suggestions, especially in Northern India? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi,
I’m looking for an organized tour in Northern India that goes through Agra (of course!) over about twenty days, prioritizing 2-day stops given the long distances or flights.
So far, my search has led me to these tours:
Intimate Rajasthan + Ganges Valley
Intimate Rajasthan and Goa
Confidential Rajasthan + Goa circuit
The number of kilometers is still pretty overwhelming and a bit scary.
Thanks for your feedback!
bcricri14
Hi there! 🙂
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for 23 days in January 2027—there are four of us—and we’ll wrap up the trip with 5 days in Mumbai. Our itinerary is coming together, but what do you think? (We can’t change the dates since our flights are already booked.)
We still have one night to slot in, and I’ve tentatively planned it in Tangalle, though it was a bit random. Would it make more sense to place it at a different stop? Or is there an intermediate stop I might be missing?
I’ve got accommodations sorted everywhere except Mumbai—it’s a nightmare (either way too expensive or really dodgy). By default, we’ve spotted the Residency Hotel Fort, but 70 € a night (with a discount) for a hotel that doesn’t offer anything special in India?!
Thanks so much for your help!


We’re heading to Sri Lanka for 23 days in January 2027—there are four of us—and we’ll wrap up the trip with 5 days in Mumbai. Our itinerary is coming together, but what do you think? (We can’t change the dates since our flights are already booked.)
We still have one night to slot in, and I’ve tentatively planned it in Tangalle, though it was a bit random. Would it make more sense to place it at a different stop? Or is there an intermediate stop I might be missing?
I’ve got accommodations sorted everywhere except Mumbai—it’s a nightmare (either way too expensive or really dodgy). By default, we’ve spotted the Residency Hotel Fort, but 70 € a night (with a discount) for a hotel that doesn’t offer anything special in India?!
Thanks so much for your help!


Practical tips from my 105 days of erratic wandering in India
Day 1 (10/10/2006): arrived in Mumbai around noon. Bus No. 338 5 Rs + 5 Rs (bag) 20' to Andheri station. Train 6 Rs to Dadar. Train 41 Rs to Lonavla 2h30 Hotel Chandralok 500 Rs **
Day 2: bike rental 7 Rs/h (too expensive, normal price 2-3 Rs/h) visit to the caves of Bhaja and Karla.
Day 3: train 28 Rs to Pune 1h20 Hotel National 416 Rs *
Day 4: train 141 Rs (with reservation) to Satara 2h45 Hotel Sagar 364 Rs **
Day 5: bus 110 Rs to Pandharpur 4h Hotel Aishwarya 450 Rs ***
Day 6: bike rental 2 Rs/h
Day 7: bus 125 Rs to Ahmadnagar 4h20 Hotel Parijat 250 Rs *
Day 8: train 151 Rs (!ticket for a mini 600 km trip!) to Jalgaon 5h30 Hotel Plaza 200 Rs **
Day 9: round-trip bus 38 Rs to Ajanta 1h30 + shuttle 6 Rs 5' Site entrance 250 Rs
Day 10: train 47 Rs to Khandwa 3h + bus 40 Rs to Omkareshwar 2h Ganesh G.H. 150 Rs *
Day 11 to 13: Omkareshwar
Day 14: bus 35 Rs to Maheshwar 2h45 Akashdeep Rest House 200 Rs **
Day 15: bus 8 Rs to Dhamnod 20' bus 20 Rs to crossroads 14 km from Mandu 1h40 bus 9 Rs to Mandu 20' Ram Mandir Dharamshala 100 Rs + 5 Rs for hot water *
Day 16: bike rental 3 Rs/h
Day 17: bus 50 Rs to Indore 4h Hotel Neelam 209 Rs
Day 18 to 20: Indore + round-trip bus 30 Rs to Ujjain 1h45
Day 21: train 82 Rs to Bhopal 5h30 Hotel Ranjeet 358 Rs *
Day 22: train 10 Rs to Sanchi 1h20 Jaiswal Lodge 200 Rs + 15 Rs for hot water! *
Day 23 and 24: visit to Sanchi + bike rental to visit the caves of Udayagiri
Day 25: train 69 Rs to Jhansi 5h + tempo 5 Rs to bus station + tempo 10 Rs + 5 Rs (bag) to Orccha 25' Sri Mahant G.H. 200 Rs **
Day 26 and 27: bike rental + train 20 Rs to Datia 30' + bemo 6 Rs to city center. Return bus 15 Rs 1h15
Day 28: bus 100 Rs to Khajuraho 4h Yogi Lodge 150 Rs **
Day 29: bike rental 30 Rs/day to visit the temples
Day 30: bus 70 Rs to Satna 4h + train 56 Rs to Jabalpur 3h Hotel Banjara 350 Rs **
Day 31: bike rental 2 Rs/h and visit to the Marble Rocks (50 km round trip)
Day 32: bus 50 Rs to Mandla 3h Hotel Satyam 250 Rs ** Round-trip bus 15 Rs to Ramnagar 1h15
Day 33: bus 60 Rs to Dindori 4h + bus 45 Rs to Amarkantak 3h (hellish road) Sarvodya Lodge 250 Rs °
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Day 35: bus 25 Rs to Pendra Road 1h30 + train 120 Rs + 109 Rs (reservation) to Nagpur 8h Hotel Grand 257 Rs **
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Day 38: train 141 Rs + 125 Rs to Hyderabad 10h Hotel 3 Castles 200 Rs ° + Hotel Suhail 200 Rs °
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Day 43: 60 Rs to Vijayawada 4h15 Hotel Sindhuri 275 Rs **
Day 44: round-trip bus 21 Rs to Amaravati 2h
Day 45: train 98 Rs to Visakhapatnam 7h30! (normally 6h) Hotel Sri Sampath Residency 250 Rs **
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Day 63: 60 Rs to Bishnupur 5h Hotel Monalisa 200 Rs *
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Day 65: bus 20 Rs to Bankura 1h30 bus 20 Rs to Durgapur 1h15 bus 28 Rs to Bolpur 2h15 Hotel Nisa 150 Rs *
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Hello everyone,
we got back from our trip to Kashmir and Ladakh three weeks ago.
We spent 4 weeks there, including one in Kashmir.
We’re really happy with our stay in Srinagar and Sonamarg. The Kashmiris gave us a very warm welcome and seemed pleased to see tourists who weren’t Indian. In fact, over the 4 days we spent in Srinagar, we only saw 4 people who looked European... Srinagar is stunning with its lakes and the lively Mughal gardens. No trouble getting around, whether by shikara, rickshaw, taxi, or on foot. The houseboats are gorgeous, unfortunately controlled by consortiums. We took a taxi to Sonamarg (20 €).
Sonamarg (two nights) and its glacier are easy to explore, either on horseback or on foot, but it’s becoming a leisure spot for Indians. To get to Ladakh afterward, we opted for a private taxi (quite expensive at 100 €, but the road is long). Since we’re a couple, it allowed us to stop whenever we wanted... and the route is beautiful all the way to Lamayuru, with our first snow-covered pass under snow when we crossed around May 21st. Then we stopped in Mulbek and Kargil before arriving in Lamayuru (three nights). We took another taxi to Alchi (26 €), spent one night there, and took the local bus at around 8 AM to Leh (3 €, a comfortable one-hour ride). We arrived in Leh around 9:30 AM, and Gyatsel from Tsarap Guesthouse came to pick us up with our backpacks. His guesthouse is located 500 meters from the market square in Leh, in a quiet little alley with no traffic. We highly recommend it because Gyatsel is invaluable for arranging taxis and organizing off-agency circuits...
His accommodation is super comfortable, and he cooks with vegetables from his garden. His wife also helps out... It’s Gyatsel’s mother who tends the garden. Through him, we arranged permits for the Nubra Valley up to Turtuk, then the Pangong and Tso Moriri lakes (we didn’t do the latter due to snow overnight!). We also crossed the Changtang (magnificent) to reach Thiksey, Stakna, Hemis, and returned to Leh. Six days in a private taxi (400 €). Since the roads were clear, we headed to Zanskar for 5 days in a shared taxi (28 € round trip for both of us). The route from Leh to Zangla follows the Zanskar gorges (impressive!).
We discovered Padum, Pibiting, Karsha, and Puktal, which you can reach via a small 7 km road and a 45-minute walk to finish, plus the sacred summit on the way to Manali.
Back in Leh, we extended our permit to visit the Aryan Valley by taxi (round trip, two days, 90 €). We spent our last two days resting in Leh—the altitude is really tiring...
I’m sharing these taxi prices as a guide for a couple. Accommodation ranged from 12 € in Leh to 30 € at Pangong Lake (the most expensive), but averaged around 15-17 € per night.
We’re not trekkers, but we love walks, discovery, and meeting people along the way. It was an amazing trip, and we even discovered a very old monastery a few kilometers before Lamayuru, where a monk took us—timeless...
I’m sharing these details because it’s hard to find precise information about Kashmir.
Sonamarg (two nights) and its glacier are easy to explore, either on horseback or on foot, but it’s becoming a leisure spot for Indians. To get to Ladakh afterward, we opted for a private taxi (quite expensive at 100 €, but the road is long). Since we’re a couple, it allowed us to stop whenever we wanted... and the route is beautiful all the way to Lamayuru, with our first snow-covered pass under snow when we crossed around May 21st. Then we stopped in Mulbek and Kargil before arriving in Lamayuru (three nights). We took another taxi to Alchi (26 €), spent one night there, and took the local bus at around 8 AM to Leh (3 €, a comfortable one-hour ride). We arrived in Leh around 9:30 AM, and Gyatsel from Tsarap Guesthouse came to pick us up with our backpacks. His guesthouse is located 500 meters from the market square in Leh, in a quiet little alley with no traffic. We highly recommend it because Gyatsel is invaluable for arranging taxis and organizing off-agency circuits...
His accommodation is super comfortable, and he cooks with vegetables from his garden. His wife also helps out... It’s Gyatsel’s mother who tends the garden. Through him, we arranged permits for the Nubra Valley up to Turtuk, then the Pangong and Tso Moriri lakes (we didn’t do the latter due to snow overnight!). We also crossed the Changtang (magnificent) to reach Thiksey, Stakna, Hemis, and returned to Leh. Six days in a private taxi (400 €). Since the roads were clear, we headed to Zanskar for 5 days in a shared taxi (28 € round trip for both of us). The route from Leh to Zangla follows the Zanskar gorges (impressive!).
We discovered Padum, Pibiting, Karsha, and Puktal, which you can reach via a small 7 km road and a 45-minute walk to finish, plus the sacred summit on the way to Manali.
Back in Leh, we extended our permit to visit the Aryan Valley by taxi (round trip, two days, 90 €). We spent our last two days resting in Leh—the altitude is really tiring...
I’m sharing these taxi prices as a guide for a couple. Accommodation ranged from 12 € in Leh to 30 € at Pangong Lake (the most expensive), but averaged around 15-17 € per night.
We’re not trekkers, but we love walks, discovery, and meeting people along the way. It was an amazing trip, and we even discovered a very old monastery a few kilometers before Lamayuru, where a monk took us—timeless...
I’m sharing these details because it’s hard to find precise information about Kashmir.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
Hi there. I’d like to know about accommodation options for unguided hikers. I see there are campsites—are the tents already set up, or do we need to bring our own? Same question for sleeping bags—ours are a bit tight, I think (comfort temp 0°C). Are blankets provided? I’m picturing a camp where everything’s taken care of, including meals, but I’m worried I might be mistaken...
Thanks in advance
Hello, we’re planning a trip to Kerala, in South India, in January/February 2027. We’ve chosen our cities but we’re looking for a French-speaking driver to take us from one city to another: Kochi - Athirappily - Munnar - Kumarakom - Marari - Kochi.
If you have any leads, please don’t hesitate.
Best regards
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Assam and I’d like to know what type of electrical adapter I need—is it M or D, or both?
Thanks
Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
I travel like you do—train, bus, tuk-tuk, and sometimes taxi. Ride-hailing apps like PickMe and other VTCs are mostly in big cities.
For the mountain train, due to severe flooding, service was interrupted on the line between Kandy and Ella. Check ahead, because reservations for this train are very complicated, if not impossible.
For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
For reservations you can’t skip, it’s the beach stays you’ll want to secure.
Hi there,
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
It seems there’s a ferry from Nagapattinam to Jaffna in India. Has anyone here taken this ferry before? My main question is how to get to Nagapattinam—by train, bus? And from which town further south, of course.
Thanks, friends!
Gaston
Gaston
Hi there.
We’re spending a month in Sri Lanka in March, and we’ll have one week left after leaving Polonnaruwa.
We’re torn between spending it in the Jaffna region or on the east coast between Batticaloa and Trincomalee.
We’re divers, so the east coast appeals to us for snorkeling, beaches, and lagoons—but it seems like late March might not be the best time for that coast. What do you think?
As for Jaffna, the culture of the region, its more authentic feel since it’s less touristy, and the offshore islands all appeal to us too—but it seems far from the rest of the country and harder to access.
We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks, Marie
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to Sri Lanka as a couple, and while planning the trip, we found plenty of info on the itinerary, places to see, and transportation, but much fewer clear reports on the actual budget to expect once there. Yet, that was an important point for us because we like to plan ahead a little before traveling.
So, we took the time to break down our complete budget after the trip. In our case, we spent around **930 € per person** for 2 weeks, being careful without depriving ourselves, mixing guesthouses, more comfortable hotels, quite a few activities, and even a private driver for part of the stay.
What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea, we’ve put everything together on our blog with our experience, a detailed breakdown of expenses, and practical info on money while there, withdrawals, and tipping:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-sri-lanka-pour-un-voyage-de-2-semaines/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
Hey fellow travelers,
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
* * *
In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!




