Asie du Sud-Est: le port de l'uniforme pour l'école...
by Aroimak
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'ai entendu dire que les eleves allaient bientot ne plus avoir d'uniforme dans les ecoles ou les universites, si cela peut paraitre demoder chez nous, je trouvais au contraire que c'etait une bonne chose et qu'ils/elles avaient une certaine classe..
encore un exemple de l'Occident qui frappe aux portes de l'Asie ? 🙁
encore un exemple de l'Occident qui frappe aux portes de l'Asie ?
Pourquoi un exemple de l'Occident à chaque fois?
Que les élèves portent un uniforme, cela pouvait provenir de l'Occident, maintenant que l'on propose de ne plus en porter, ça vient encore de l'Occident?
Cela dit, je préfère que les collégiennes vietnamiennes gardent leur tunique blanche raffinée
Pourquoi un exemple de l'Occident à chaque fois?
Que les élèves portent un uniforme, cela pouvait provenir de l'Occident, maintenant que l'on propose de ne plus en porter, ça vient encore de l'Occident?
Cela dit, je préfère que les collégiennes vietnamiennes gardent leur tunique blanche raffinée
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Tu vois qu'au bout du compte nous sommes d'accord😄;
Ce que je voulais dire par la, c'est qu'on laisse passer de nous une image de liberte qui est reprise "puissance 10" par la Thailande en tout premier (mais aussi par les autres pays d'Asie evidement), ce fut pour la nouriturre, on voit ce que ca donne chez les ados 🙁, pour les biens de consomations(entre autre les portables) et maintenant dans un des domaines qui ne devraient pas changer (c'est ce que je pense moi ), l'education, je pense que cet uniforme les trempe dans le jus de la vie active, leur montre une certaine regidite qui en plus laisse une tres bonne image general aux yeux exterieurs, si on retir cet uniforme, je pense qu'une partie est encore perdu......
entre autre les portables
T'es sur que les portables viennent de l'Occident?
La France était loin derrière il y a 5 ans... Internet aussi... La France vient seulement de rattraper son retard
T'es sur que les portables viennent de l'Occident?
La France était loin derrière il y a 5 ans... Internet aussi... La France vient seulement de rattraper son retard
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
c'est une facon de penser.... les chiffres sont toujours facilement manipulables.... moi, je ne parle que de ce que j'ai vu depuis quelques temps, apres on peut toujours voir de plusieurs manieres mais en dehors de MBK je n'avais jamais vu autant de shops pour les portables depuis ces 2 dernieres annees et ce n'est sans doute pas pour rien !
chacun veut le dernier modele avec bientot le telephone qui fait les glaces et le soda 😏 en plus du reste
Mais ne nous ecartons pas trop du sujet, voyons un peu ce que pensent nos autres foromistes de ce fameux uniforme .
chacun veut le dernier modele avec bientot le telephone qui fait les glaces et le soda 😏 en plus du reste
Mais ne nous ecartons pas trop du sujet, voyons un peu ce que pensent nos autres foromistes de ce fameux uniforme .
ce que pensent nos autres foromistes de ce fameux uniforme
L'uniforme c'est le symbole de la discipline?
C'est utile dans l'armée, dans les écoles et peut-être aussi dans les usines.
L'armée vietnamienne n'avait pas d'uniforme pendant leur guerre d'indépendance.
Dans les écoles, on n'a pas besoin d'uniforme pour être discipliné.
Dans les usines, eh ben, c'est pour ne pas salir ses propres vêtements!
Mais l'uniforme ça relève peut-être aussi une forme d'idéologie selon laquelle, on coupe les têtes qui dépassent🙂
L'uniforme c'est le symbole de la discipline?
C'est utile dans l'armée, dans les écoles et peut-être aussi dans les usines.
L'armée vietnamienne n'avait pas d'uniforme pendant leur guerre d'indépendance.
Dans les écoles, on n'a pas besoin d'uniforme pour être discipliné.
Dans les usines, eh ben, c'est pour ne pas salir ses propres vêtements!
Mais l'uniforme ça relève peut-être aussi une forme d'idéologie selon laquelle, on coupe les têtes qui dépassent🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
J'ai entendu dire que ....
d’ou tiens tu tes sources pour le post que tu as initié ?
mon avis : l’uniforme a pour avantage de mettre a niveau toutes les classes sociales, exemple : les avocats, les gondoles noires a Venise, ect… pas de signe apparent de richesse, signe d’appartenance a un collège, une université, un groupe, en Occident a l’heure actuelle un gamin qui rentre a l’école est « catalogué » a la valeur de ses vêtements de marque, si tu n’a pas les dernières N..E a la mode, tu est un misérable la discipline : c’est se mettre au garde a vous a la montée du drapeau, c’est se lever quand un prof rentre en classe, 2 choses différentes
d’ou tiens tu tes sources pour le post que tu as initié ?
mon avis : l’uniforme a pour avantage de mettre a niveau toutes les classes sociales, exemple : les avocats, les gondoles noires a Venise, ect… pas de signe apparent de richesse, signe d’appartenance a un collège, une université, un groupe, en Occident a l’heure actuelle un gamin qui rentre a l’école est « catalogué » a la valeur de ses vêtements de marque, si tu n’a pas les dernières N..E a la mode, tu est un misérable la discipline : c’est se mettre au garde a vous a la montée du drapeau, c’est se lever quand un prof rentre en classe, 2 choses différentes
dans un des domaines qui ne devraient pas changer (c'est ce que je pense moi ), l'education
Tu penses que l'éducation en Thaïlande ne devrait pas changer? De toute évidence tu n'as pas d'enfant inscrit dans une école publique en Thaïlande! 😉 Le niveau est catastrophique et il est urgent que l'état s'occupe de ce problème.
Quand à la question sur l'uniforme à l'école, il y a du pour et du contre. Mais ce qui m'intéresserait c'est de savoir d'où tu tiens cette info.
Tu penses que l'éducation en Thaïlande ne devrait pas changer? De toute évidence tu n'as pas d'enfant inscrit dans une école publique en Thaïlande! 😉 Le niveau est catastrophique et il est urgent que l'état s'occupe de ce problème.
Quand à la question sur l'uniforme à l'école, il y a du pour et du contre. Mais ce qui m'intéresserait c'est de savoir d'où tu tiens cette info.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
J'ai été étudiant 6 mois en Thailande, et j'ai porté l'uniforme de l'université tous les jours., donc je m'y connais un peu.
Tout d'abord, les étudiants sont très fiers de porter l'uniforme, ça montre qu'ils sont étudiants, et ils portent les couleurs de leur université
l'unifiorme coute très peu cher, et tout le monde a le même (ou presque), donc pas de différence sociale, et tout le monde trouve ça très bien
les profs sont très stricts avec l'uniforme, et plus ça va, plus les juppes de ces demoiselles sont courtes. L'uniforme ressemble bien souvent à une tenue de soirée.....j'ai vu une prof sortir de ses gonds car une de mes camarades avait le bouton du col ouvert et une juppe très très courte...
le port de l'uniforme est relax : les garcons peuvent porter un jean, des sandales, la seule exigence est le port de la chemise blanche. Pour les filles en revanche, c'est beaucoup plus strict, et la juppe est obligtoire, ainsi que la chemise. De plus, les filles doivent porter les boutons (gravés aux couleurs de l'école), la broche de l'école, et la ceinture de l'école.
Voila, l'uniforme est donc encré dans la vie Thai, et les étudiants eux-mêmes trouvent ça très bien. Les Thai sont très très "fashion", ils adorent la mode. Au moins, à l'école, ils ne se soucient pas de ça, et ceux qui sont moins aisés sont considérés comme les autres (enfin en apparence).
J'espère vous avoir un peu éclairé.....
Voila, l'uniforme est donc encré dans la vie Thai, et les étudiants eux-mêmes trouvent ça très bien. Les Thai sont très très "fashion", ils adorent la mode. Au moins, à l'école, ils ne se soucient pas de ça, et ceux qui sont moins aisés sont considérés comme les autres (enfin en apparence).
J'espère vous avoir un peu éclairé.....
Le niveau est catastrophique et il est urgent que l'état s'occupe de ce problème.
Il est connu que les thais adorent l'uniforme .et en plus c'est une tres bonne chose .les tenues de rigueur, la discipline et les belles apparences sont inversement proportionnelles au niveau qui est plus que lamentable.cette ecole publique est une grande plaisanterie c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire . Pour le gouvernement il n'y a surement pas urgence car tout ca est bien voulu pour des raisons qui semblent evidentes.
Il est connu que les thais adorent l'uniforme .et en plus c'est une tres bonne chose .les tenues de rigueur, la discipline et les belles apparences sont inversement proportionnelles au niveau qui est plus que lamentable.cette ecole publique est une grande plaisanterie c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire . Pour le gouvernement il n'y a surement pas urgence car tout ca est bien voulu pour des raisons qui semblent evidentes.
D'abord ne pas confondre THAI et ASE!
Au Cambodge, l'uniforme est source de DISCRIMINATION en effet toutes les familles ne peuvent en acheter un et...l'enfant ne va pas à l'ecole souvent pour cette raison! Certaines ecoles l'ont compris et l'uniforme n'y est pas pratiqué...Il n'y a pas differenciation sociale car il s'agit de zone pauvres et tout le monde l'est!...L'important n'est il pas d'apprendre quelques soient les guenilles! Le levé des couleurs nationales LUI ne coute rien et est pratiqué partout...pas en Occident que je sache! ...Et tant mieux de mon point de vue! BY
Roger
dommage si cela est vrai. J'ai toujours admiré cette façon de faire porter l'uniforme au écoliers et étudiants. Ainsi pas de jalousie et de racket ... pas de blouson de telle ou telle marque qui donne envie à celui que ne peut pas se le payer de se le procurer par d'autres moyens .... vécu récemment par le fils d'une de mes amies (8 ans). S'il est vrai que l'achat de l'uniforme est souvent très difficile par certaines familles qui économisent pendant plusieurs mois pour pouvoir les offrir à leurs enfants et est aussi un facteur d'égalité, pas de signe distinctif entre riches et pauvres, le vêtement gomme toute les différences (apparentes, bien sûr).
C'est une chose qui devrait être remise à l'ordre du jour dans nos pays occidentaux et cela résoudrait plus d'un problème.
Tu veux qu'ils chantent:MARECHAL NOUS VOILA....?Apres tout c'est IN!!!Desolé je suis demodé et pas à l'actuelle sauce occidentale!...Aujourd'hui la conscience d'appartenance devrait etre mondiale et non nationale...Chaque jours les difficultes des uns et des autres (qui ne sont neanmoins pas les memes) le prouvent...Attends un petit rechauffement planetaire et tu vas voir ce qu'il va devenir le chao praya!...et le delta du mekong!... attends, j'enregistre ce post, il va etre censure...remarque today peut etre pas!)...Bon je vais voir Fortini! By😉
Roger
salut!
C'est une chose qui devrait être remise à l'ordre du jour dans nos pays occidentaux et cela résoudrait plus d'un problème.
L'adolescence ce construit dans les differences, et les moutons dans l'uniformité...A quoi servent les voyages sinon a ouvrir les "esprits"?...NOSTALGIE QUAND TU NOUS TIENS!!!😮BY
C'est une chose qui devrait être remise à l'ordre du jour dans nos pays occidentaux et cela résoudrait plus d'un problème.
L'adolescence ce construit dans les differences, et les moutons dans l'uniformité...A quoi servent les voyages sinon a ouvrir les "esprits"?...NOSTALGIE QUAND TU NOUS TIENS!!!😮BY
Roger
L'adolescence ce construit dans les differences, et les moutons dans l'uniformité...
C'est tellement vrai! Mais le problème c'est qu'il y a au moins autant de moutons en occident qu'en Asie alors que les uniformes ont disparu de la plupart des écoles publiques en europe de l'ouest...
C'est tellement vrai! Mais le problème c'est qu'il y a au moins autant de moutons en occident qu'en Asie alors que les uniformes ont disparu de la plupart des écoles publiques en europe de l'ouest...
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
les uniformes ont disparu de la plupart des écoles publiques en europe de l'ouest...
débat intéressant, mais qui demande a être moins trancher je crois que ne la fait roger ; car si de l'"uniformité vient l'ennui", je ne pense pas m'être ennuyé et pourtant j'ai porté la blouse jusquen 4ème il me semble, ce n'était ni triste, ni rébarbatif !
je ne crois pas qu'il faille traiter le sujet sur l'uniforme sujet d"uniformité " mais plutôt sujet d'égalité de traitement devant l'enseignement et absence d'étalage ! maintenant chacun pense la sienne et cela fait partie des sujets dit "politique", ou nous allons avoir autant d'avis que d'internautes, c'est comme l'équipe de france de foot, "nous sommes tous selectionneur" 😏😏😏
débat intéressant, mais qui demande a être moins trancher je crois que ne la fait roger ; car si de l'"uniformité vient l'ennui", je ne pense pas m'être ennuyé et pourtant j'ai porté la blouse jusquen 4ème il me semble, ce n'était ni triste, ni rébarbatif !
je ne crois pas qu'il faille traiter le sujet sur l'uniforme sujet d"uniformité " mais plutôt sujet d'égalité de traitement devant l'enseignement et absence d'étalage ! maintenant chacun pense la sienne et cela fait partie des sujets dit "politique", ou nous allons avoir autant d'avis que d'internautes, c'est comme l'équipe de france de foot, "nous sommes tous selectionneur" 😏😏😏
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En effet l'habit fais pas le moine ni l'uniforme le mouton... je reste assez partagé sur le sujet, j'aurai pas aimé moi-même devoir porter un uniforme mais je trouve assez sympa de voir les écoliers en uniforme en Asie ou ailleurs...n'y voyez pas de mauvaises intentions, je reste pour la liberté de choix en ce domaine. Mais c'est marrant de voir ce vieux débat ressurgir, je me souviens même qu'en France on en avait reparlé il n'y a pas si longtemps et qu'on opposait les mêmes arguments entre la liberté individuelle et l'indifférienciation des classes sociales 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
C'est vrai alors si en plus tu habilles les moutons on ne fera plus la difference avec les boeufs!...OUI chaque jour je me le dis que les jeunes ne sont pas formes à l'esprit d'initiative, à la critique positive...ou plus simplement à l'analyse, la synthese...et encore à la fraternité et au respect des differences y comprises!Et ne parlons pas de l'imagination qui est la source de toutes les creativités y comprise les scientifiques!...BY
Roger
salut olivier,
nous avons écrit en même temps !!
sauf que moi je peux parler de cela, l'ayant porté .............
c'est comme le service militaire, je l'ai fait, et j'en ai été content, et je regrette sa disparition et avant de lire 36 000 posts dessus j'explique :
sortant d'une famille " fils de medecin " allant au lycée, l'armée ( 1972, parachutiste) ) m'a ouvert les yeux sur la société dans laquelle je vivais, je croyais qu'a 18 ans, tout le monde aller en classe au lycée et a l'université, non que j'ai été élevé dans du coton, mais quand tu vas au lycée, tu ne connais pas le monde extérieur ! aussi j'ai été surpris d'abord de constater que des camarades travaillaient depuis l'age de 14 ans, que certains avaient de la peine a lire et a écrire, que certains vivaient dans des tours "infernales" ( la télé n'était pas ce qu'elle est aujourd'hui) donc l'armée ma permis de m'engager dans des combats personnel pour aider ceux qui n'avait pas eu a chance que j'ai eu, d'avoir des parents présents et qui me permettait d'accéder aux études ; voila, c'est tout simple !!
nous avons écrit en même temps !!
sauf que moi je peux parler de cela, l'ayant porté .............
c'est comme le service militaire, je l'ai fait, et j'en ai été content, et je regrette sa disparition et avant de lire 36 000 posts dessus j'explique :
sortant d'une famille " fils de medecin " allant au lycée, l'armée ( 1972, parachutiste) ) m'a ouvert les yeux sur la société dans laquelle je vivais, je croyais qu'a 18 ans, tout le monde aller en classe au lycée et a l'université, non que j'ai été élevé dans du coton, mais quand tu vas au lycée, tu ne connais pas le monde extérieur ! aussi j'ai été surpris d'abord de constater que des camarades travaillaient depuis l'age de 14 ans, que certains avaient de la peine a lire et a écrire, que certains vivaient dans des tours "infernales" ( la télé n'était pas ce qu'elle est aujourd'hui) donc l'armée ma permis de m'engager dans des combats personnel pour aider ceux qui n'avait pas eu a chance que j'ai eu, d'avoir des parents présents et qui me permettait d'accéder aux études ; voila, c'est tout simple !!
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j'ai porté la blouse jusquen 4ème il me semble
Comme mon grand-père...😛😉
Perso ça m'est égal que mes enfants portent un uniforme ou non. D'autant plus que je n'en ai pas (d'enfants)! Il y a du pour et du contre et je trouve les arguments valables dans un sens comme dans l'autre.
Comme mon grand-père...😛😉
Perso ça m'est égal que mes enfants portent un uniforme ou non. D'autant plus que je n'en ai pas (d'enfants)! Il y a du pour et du contre et je trouve les arguments valables dans un sens comme dans l'autre.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
La blouse de l'epoque, c'etait parce que la machine à laver n'etait pas encore generalisée, c'etait dans un souci d'hygiene et pas d'indifferenciation sociale! D'ailleurs c'etait qoui ce concept de sociologue à l'epoque le concept n'existait pas et les socio debutaient leurs carrieres aux USA!...Attention les gars aux vieillissements, gardons nos neurones! HIHI!
Roger
chaque jour je me le dis que les jeunes ne sont pas formes à l'esprit d'initiative, à la critique positive...ou plus simplement à l'analyse, la synthese...
Je partage ton opinion mais je pense que malheureusement ce n'est pas qu'une question d'age, certains "vieux" n'ayant rien à leur envier.
Je partage ton opinion mais je pense que malheureusement ce n'est pas qu'une question d'age, certains "vieux" n'ayant rien à leur envier.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Je comprends Vincent, et comme Similan je suis partagé sur le sujet donc ne comptez pas sur moi pour trancher, j'y vois du pour et du contre, cela dépend plus du contexte....mais j'ai pas eu besoin d'aller a l'armée (je suis même assez content d'avoir esquivé, la forêt noire ou j'etais destiné ne m'emballait pas vraiment contrairement a la marine ou aux chasseurs alpins) pour voir que des gens bossaient a l'age de 14 ans et que l'illétrisme n'a pas disparu ... j'ai fait des études mais j'ai toujours travaillé pour me les payer, mes parents étant trop "pauvres" pour me les payer mais trop "riches" pour j'obtienne une bourse 🤪
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
alors ça, c'est un coup bas qui va te couter quelques singha, lorsqu'on se verra a phuket
Ok, je le reconnaît. Mais attention, l'abus d'alccol est dangereux, surtout à partir d'un certain age...😛😉
Ok, je le reconnaît. Mais attention, l'abus d'alccol est dangereux, surtout à partir d'un certain age...😛😉
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
j'ai toujours travaillé pour me les payer
c'est tout a ton honneur !!!!!!! et je dois dire que "petit singe " tu me plais de plus en plus 😏😏 quand a l'uniforme, je ne peux que dire ce que j'ai vécu, est un bien ou non, je ne sais ! pour moi ce fut un bien, pour les autres peut être que non .......
c'est tout a ton honneur !!!!!!! et je dois dire que "petit singe " tu me plais de plus en plus 😏😏 quand a l'uniforme, je ne peux que dire ce que j'ai vécu, est un bien ou non, je ne sais ! pour moi ce fut un bien, pour les autres peut être que non .......
trouver son chemin personnel a travers le chemin initiatique du voyage
Aujourd'hui la conscience d'appartenance devrait etre mondiale et non nationale
oui c'est vrai . DEVRAIT etre . mais allez leur dire aux Asiatiques et a leur dirigeant, aux Chinois et a tous les pays du sud est Asiatique si leur vision des choses est la meme. et aux pays Africains qui sont en train de se faire colonniser par les chinois.est ce aussi une vision erronnee de dire que les tibetains sont en train de disparaitre car eux aussi avait la sagesse de dire ce qu'il AURAIT du etre .
oui c'est vrai . DEVRAIT etre . mais allez leur dire aux Asiatiques et a leur dirigeant, aux Chinois et a tous les pays du sud est Asiatique si leur vision des choses est la meme. et aux pays Africains qui sont en train de se faire colonniser par les chinois.est ce aussi une vision erronnee de dire que les tibetains sont en train de disparaitre car eux aussi avait la sagesse de dire ce qu'il AURAIT du etre .
ha ! ha ! je comprends maintenant d'où te viens ce goût de la blouse et du tablier !!
comment as tu deviner ?????????? crois que certains vont comprendre ???????? ah ah ah !! j'ai oublié de te dire qu'au français j'ai gravi la montagne jusqu'au dernier degré !
comment as tu deviner ?????????? crois que certains vont comprendre ???????? ah ah ah !! j'ai oublié de te dire qu'au français j'ai gravi la montagne jusqu'au dernier degré !
trouver son chemin personnel a travers le chemin initiatique du voyage
"chaque jour je me le dis que les jeunes ne sont pas formes à l'esprit d'initiative, à la critique positive...ou plus simplement à l'analyse, la synthese...et encore à la fraternité et au respect des differences y comprises!Et ne parlons pas de l'imagination qui est la source de toutes les creativités y comprise les scientifiques"
Paroles de vieux ronchon, pas d'accord du tout, je suis au contraire bluffée par la réelle maturité et l'approche de beaucoup de jeunes sur des sujets bien récurrents (racisme, politique, vision de la vie et de leur vie). Les enfants n'ont que faire des différences, c'est leur environnement et l'âge qui les changent malheureusement. L'imagination est affaire de sensibilité, ça ne s'apprend pas, ça se développe question de contexte.
Paroles de vieux ronchon, pas d'accord du tout, je suis au contraire bluffée par la réelle maturité et l'approche de beaucoup de jeunes sur des sujets bien récurrents (racisme, politique, vision de la vie et de leur vie). Les enfants n'ont que faire des différences, c'est leur environnement et l'âge qui les changent malheureusement. L'imagination est affaire de sensibilité, ça ne s'apprend pas, ça se développe question de contexte.
Lau
Ce n'est pas une critique des jeunes mais de ceux qui veulent les embrigadés (quelque soit la forme);Pour le reste cite nous tes sources:
l'imagination est affaire de sensibilité ca ne s'apprend pas!
La sensibilité cela se developpe aussi, tous les enseignants d'arts plastiques, de musique ...te le diront...Il s'agit là des disciplines les plus parlantes...mais toutes developpent la sensibilité et donc l'imagination!Mais c'est vrai qu'il y a en meme temps que l'uniforme des tendances au genetique en ce moment!
l'imagination est affaire de sensibilité ca ne s'apprend pas!
La sensibilité cela se developpe aussi, tous les enseignants d'arts plastiques, de musique ...te le diront...Il s'agit là des disciplines les plus parlantes...mais toutes developpent la sensibilité et donc l'imagination!Mais c'est vrai qu'il y a en meme temps que l'uniforme des tendances au genetique en ce moment!
Roger
Finalement, après tous ces post, tu ne nous as toujours pas cité tes sources...
En tout cas, pour Singapour, qui me semble-t-il, se trouve en Asie du sud est, pas question de supprimer l'uniforme ni dans les écoles publiques, ni dans les privées. Ici, le seul uniforme qui ait été récemment débattu est celui de ...la "singapore girl", c'est à dire l'hôtesse de l'air de la Singapore Airline. Statu quo jusqu'à nouvel avis; elle ne changera pas! Cela dit, pour "couper court" (si j'ose dire...) aux tenues déplacées de nombreuses demoiselles, certains parents du lycée français (dont je ne fais pas partie) ont demandé le port de l'uniforme...refusé pour le moment. Diable! L'Asie influencerait-elle l'Occident sur le territoire de Singapour?😉 D'ailleurs, l'uniforme ici est clairement un héritage anglais...Et oui! L'opposition Occident / Asie en matière d'uniforme me semble inexacte...les anglais ont un uniforme à l'école jusqu'en high school, toujours aujourd'hui. Peut-être faut-il lancer un nouveau débat:l'Asie du sud est doit-elle soutenir la Grande Bretagne pour résister à l'Occident en matière d'uniforme à l'école?😉😉 Je ne sais pas si je vais réussir à m'endormir sans les réponses de VF!
En tout cas, pour Singapour, qui me semble-t-il, se trouve en Asie du sud est, pas question de supprimer l'uniforme ni dans les écoles publiques, ni dans les privées. Ici, le seul uniforme qui ait été récemment débattu est celui de ...la "singapore girl", c'est à dire l'hôtesse de l'air de la Singapore Airline. Statu quo jusqu'à nouvel avis; elle ne changera pas! Cela dit, pour "couper court" (si j'ose dire...) aux tenues déplacées de nombreuses demoiselles, certains parents du lycée français (dont je ne fais pas partie) ont demandé le port de l'uniforme...refusé pour le moment. Diable! L'Asie influencerait-elle l'Occident sur le territoire de Singapour?😉 D'ailleurs, l'uniforme ici est clairement un héritage anglais...Et oui! L'opposition Occident / Asie en matière d'uniforme me semble inexacte...les anglais ont un uniforme à l'école jusqu'en high school, toujours aujourd'hui. Peut-être faut-il lancer un nouveau débat:l'Asie du sud est doit-elle soutenir la Grande Bretagne pour résister à l'Occident en matière d'uniforme à l'école?😉😉 Je ne sais pas si je vais réussir à m'endormir sans les réponses de VF!
Anne, Singapour
Finalement, après tous ces post, tu ne nous as toujours pas cité tes sources...
Il doit faire un maximum pour essayer de se rappeller
😉😄😏
Il doit faire un maximum pour essayer de se rappeller
😉😄😏
dommage si cela est vrai. J'ai toujours admiré cette façon de faire porter l'uniforme au écoliers et étudiants. Ainsi pas de jalousie et de racket ... pas de blouson de telle ou telle marque qui donne envie à celui que ne peut pas se le payer de se le procurer par d'autres moyens .... vécu récemment par le fils d'une de mes amies (8 ans). S'il est vrai que l'achat de l'uniforme est souvent très difficile par certaines familles qui économisent pendant plusieurs mois pour pouvoir les offrir à leurs enfants et est aussi un facteur d'égalité, pas de signe distinctif entre riches et pauvres, le vêtement gomme toute les différences (apparentes, bien sûr).
C'est une chose qui devrait être remise à l'ordre du jour dans nos pays occidentaux et cela résoudrait plus d'un problème.
Tout a fait d'accord avec toi 🙂🙂
Tout a fait d'accord avec toi 🙂🙂
Simplement dans le Gavroche que je recois mon cher Dragon bouillant ....😏
P.S: ca reponds par la meme occasion a Genetet !
Bouillant ? 😮non, Mais encore 2 mois avant de rétrouver mes copines pattayennes et bankokaises (pas de reflétions svp 😇) alors ceci explique cela
wanpra : << c'est manon des sources!>>
Que veux tu c’est wanpra qui m’avais insinué un affreux doute 😄
P.S: ca reponds par la meme occasion a Genetet !
Bouillant ? 😮non, Mais encore 2 mois avant de rétrouver mes copines pattayennes et bankokaises (pas de reflétions svp 😇) alors ceci explique cela
wanpra : << c'est manon des sources!>>
Que veux tu c’est wanpra qui m’avais insinué un affreux doute 😄
J'ai entendu dire que les eleves allaient bientot ne plus avoir d'uniforme dans les ecoles ou les universites, si cela peut paraitre demoder chez nous, je trouvais au contraire que c'etait une bonne chose et qu'ils/elles avaient une certaine classe..
encore un exemple de l'Occident qui frappe aux portes de l'Asie ? 🙁
si ca pouvait revenir en france, ce sera pas plus mal
si ca pouvait revenir en france, ce sera pas plus mal
pour parler de choses aussi intéressante, ton signalement dit que tu es expat au viet nam !
cela fait longtemps ? tu t'adaptes bien?
tu as trouvé du boulot facilement ?
je ne suis pas des RG, mais la vie des gens m'intéresse !
amicalement du plus beau des pays, j'ai dit l'ile de beauté 😏😏😏
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pour parler de choses aussi intéressante, ton signalement dit que tu es expat au viet nam !
cela fait longtemps ? tu t'adaptes bien?
tu as trouvé du boulot facilement ?
je ne suis pas des RG, mais la vie des gens m'intéresse !
amicalement du plus beau des pays, j'ai dit l'ile de beauté 😏😏😏
j'entame mon 7e mois et ca va
enfin, parfois starbuck's, macdo, UGC me manquent mais bon...
heureusement que l'asie c'est grand 🙂
ahhhh tu as raison la corse, c'est de la bombe...
et sinon, ici l'uniforme est d'autant plus une realite que la pauvrete est toujours existante pour beaucoup
l'uniforme efface donc cela le temps des etudes, redonne de la dignite aussi et surtout instaure comme disaient d'autres avant moi dans ce topic de la discipline
et enfin c'est toujours un spectacle unique la sortie des ecoles
une foule d'enfants habilles en bleu et blanc pour les garcons, en ao dai pour les filles
j'entame mon 7e mois et ca va
enfin, parfois starbuck's, macdo, UGC me manquent mais bon...
heureusement que l'asie c'est grand 🙂
ahhhh tu as raison la corse, c'est de la bombe...
et sinon, ici l'uniforme est d'autant plus une realite que la pauvrete est toujours existante pour beaucoup
l'uniforme efface donc cela le temps des etudes, redonne de la dignite aussi et surtout instaure comme disaient d'autres avant moi dans ce topic de la discipline
et enfin c'est toujours un spectacle unique la sortie des ecoles
une foule d'enfants habilles en bleu et blanc pour les garcons, en ao dai pour les filles
je connais ce système depuis longtemps, car je visite et découvre l'asie depuis que tu es né ( cela ne me rajeunit pas beaucoup), mais je me sens toujours d'attaque pour de nouveau voyage
vas tu revenir en france pour y travailler ? ne penses tu pas que vas être décaler ?
tu sais le "mal jaune " je l'ai contracté à mon premier voyage en 1980 ...
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La réponse est positive c'est vrai, et elle ne sort pas de ma bouche, mais de celle de tous mes "camarades" étudiants Thai de Bangkok.
Je pense que le débat n'a pas trop de sens car après tout l'important est que les étudiants (qui sont quand même les premiers concernés !!!) trouvent ça bien.
Et si on regarde en France, les étudiants des grandes écoles créent par eux-mêmes des polos ou T-shirts avec le logo de l'école. Les étudiants sont fiers de le faire, et c'est là l'important !!
Je pense que le débat n'a pas trop de sens car après tout l'important est que les étudiants (qui sont quand même les premiers concernés !!!) trouvent ça bien.
Et si on regarde en France, les étudiants des grandes écoles créent par eux-mêmes des polos ou T-shirts avec le logo de l'école. Les étudiants sont fiers de le faire, et c'est là l'important !!
j'entame mon 7e mois et ca va
Félicitations c'est une bonne nouvelle ça . 😉
Félicitations c'est une bonne nouvelle ça . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
tu vois Marco, rien n'est impossible !!
au viet nam, les hommes peuvent enfanter 😏😏😏😏
si je n'avais pas eu ma fille, je serai parti, car quel plaisir d'avoir un enfant sans l'épouse acariatre à coté 😏😏
je blague, car mon épouse est extra 😏et je n'ai aucune envie d'en changer même pour une plus jeune 😏😏😏 surtout pour une plus jeune 😏😏
je blague, car mon épouse est extra 😏et je n'ai aucune envie d'en changer même pour une plus jeune 😏😏😏 surtout pour une plus jeune 😏😏
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tu vois Marco, rien n'est impossible !!
au viet nam, les hommes peuvent enfanter 😏😏😏😏
Hé oui on ne sera jamais au bout de nos surprises, quelle époque .😉
Hé oui on ne sera jamais au bout de nos surprises, quelle époque .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Ca manque de photos dans ce post !!
Voila une photo de 2 amis Thai portant l'uniforme réservé aux grandes occasions de l'université Sripatum à Bangkok. Pour l'histoire, Pom (le garçon), est très fier de le porter car il vient d'un village très pauvre au Sud du pays, et pour lui ça représente beaucoup de choses de porter l'uniforme d'une grande université privée de Bangkok.

Pour celle-ci, ce sont des étudiants étrangers qui étaient avec moi, et qui portent l'uniforme quotidien de l'université (la cravate n'étant que pour les grandes occasions).

Voila une photo de 2 amis Thai portant l'uniforme réservé aux grandes occasions de l'université Sripatum à Bangkok. Pour l'histoire, Pom (le garçon), est très fier de le porter car il vient d'un village très pauvre au Sud du pays, et pour lui ça représente beaucoup de choses de porter l'uniforme d'une grande université privée de Bangkok.

Pour celle-ci, ce sont des étudiants étrangers qui étaient avec moi, et qui portent l'uniforme quotidien de l'université (la cravate n'étant que pour les grandes occasions).

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Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
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Thanks in advance for your tips!
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Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
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Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!