Parceque hier j'ai été un peu au LA Café,
- je suis monté en haut : 150p
- 3 bierres classique + 1 à une fille : 440p
- 2 parties de billards : 50p
- Encore une serviette chaude : 20p
J'en suis à 660p, tout ça pour 4 bierres et 2 malheureuse partie de billard.
660 c'est déja 10% du salaire mensuel !
Deplus hier, dans le centre Robinson ça consommé et pas qu'un peu !
Bcp avaient des iphones (du moins autant qu'en france)
Une vendeuse de 7 11 ne va pas boire des bières au LA Cafe, par exemple.
Elle bouffe du riz et du poisson séché 6 jours sur 7 ( ou du gras de porc pour changer)
Et son Iphone est une copie chinoise ...
Enfin, les malls de la capitale ne sont pas du tout représentatifs du niveau de vie des gens. C'est la sortie hebdomadaire dans un environnement avec air conditionné....
Les philippins n'ont pas les moyens d'aller au LA CAFE, ni de faire les activités que nous faisons là bas. Pose leur la question, tu aura la réponse...
En règle générale, ils se retrouvent chez les uns les autres pour faire des petites bouffes ensemble, suivis d'un videoke. Ils ne vont que trés rarement au resto et encore moins dans les bars où la san mig est à 70 pesos !!! S'ils vont dans les mall, c'est pour se balader et regarder les vitrines (ils n'achetent rien dans les mall, c'est trop cher).
Il y a bien une caste qui a de l'argent mais c'est trés loin d'être représentatif de la majorité de la population.
A priori, ton séjour se déroule mieux et je suis vraiment content pour toi 🙂
Enjoy !!! 🙂
La vie, c'est ce qui arrive quand on a prévu de faire autre chose...
La classe socio-économique A ( les " riches" ) , est composée des ménages qui ont un revenu net de plus de 2,100,000 Php par an. ils représentent 0,3% de la population.
Les classes B et C, la classe moyenne, a un revenu annuel par ménage de 260,000 pesos à 2,099,000 pesos. Ils sont 19,5% des ménages des Philippines. Le revenu médian est de 500,000 Php à peu près, et plus de 50% de ces ménages tirent la partie de leurs revenus qui leur permet d' être membres de la classe moyenne, d' un ou plusieurs membres de la famille qui travaillent à l'étranger et envoient de l'argent chaque mois.
La classe D est formée des ménages avec un revenu de moins de 260,000 Php par an, qui ne sont pas en situation de " pauvreté" ( il y a un ensemble de critères pour définir cette notion : habitation en dur, possession de certains objets comme TV, etc...)
C'est la classe la plus représentée, 55% de la population.
Enfin la classe E, ce sont les " vrais pauvres" qui ne sont pas sûrs de manger tous les jours. 25% de la population.
Il s'agit bien des revenus PAR MENAGE, et un ménage aux Philippines , c'est entre 5 et 10 personnes, au moins!!!
On est loin des bières du LA CAFE, du mall ROBINSON et des IPHONE à tire-larigot...
Manille et surtout MAKATI , ce n'est pas du tout représentatif des Philippines.
Exact, l'image d'une classe de super riches ultra minoritaire et du reste de la population très pauvre n'est plus la réalité à Manille (en province ça reste assez vrai). Il y a eu l’émergence d'une classe moyenne assez importante qui sans vivre dans le luxe peut quand même se payer quelques extra, avoir un niveau de vie convenable et un peu de loisirs. Ce sont eux qui font tourner la consommation dans les malls, les chaines de restauration, les voitures neuves d'entrée de gamme ... etc Les salaires chez les jeunes cadres sont dans la fourchette 20 000 - 60 000 pesos, parfois plus et ces ménages là ne font pas 10 personnes.
D'ailleurs pour info le salaire minimum légal à Manille est autour de 8000 pesos/mois et non 6000.
D'ailleurs pour info le salaire minimum légal à Manille est autour de 8000 pesos/mois et non 6000.
salaire minimum qui est trés peu appliqué....mon ami Hoost
Une helper à Manilla ou Cebu gagne 2000 Php/2500 php par mois nourrie logée corvéable à souhait dimanches compris, sauf pour aller à la messe.
Une infirmière diplomée : 8000 php par mois
les3/4 des sales women dans les malls like mall of ASIA gagnent moins de 5000 php/mois et leur patron ne payent pas leur income taxes au BIR !
Beaucoup dans les iles ne mangent même pas du riz style ganador ;....mais du corn que j appelle dog food inmangeable et quelques poissons séchés qui puent..... expérience et source véridique.
personnelle ..... a lot dans les petits villages hors de la route des touristes lambda......80% du territoire ;j'y passe un mois à dormir sur la nate et le plancher en bambou;, j essaye dy appoerter du plus!....un autre mois en backpaquer de luxe!😉
je situerai Getehem la classe pauvre E , digne et travailleuse plus de 8h par jour 7/7 j à plus de 40% de la population
Le simple foreigner dépense mini 2000 php/j........presque un salaire mensuel /jour pour 40% de la pop.
Baong va plus loin pour donner ton impression sur le niveau de vie aux Philippines , pays ou nous sommes trés riche!
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salaire minimum qui est trés peu appliqué....mon ami Hoost
Non il est quand même assez largement respecté à Manille mais bien sûr uniquement dans les emplois déclarés. Ce qui n'inclue pas comme tu le mentionnes les yayas, tricyle driver et autres. Et puis toutes les entreprises qui ne déclarent pas leurs employés.... Il y a aussi plein de combines du style "salary déductions" pour le réduire.
Comme je le disais la situation à Manille où il y a maintenant une vraie classe moyenne et le reste des Philippines n'ont rien à voir. 8000 pour une infirmière mais où? Le salaire minimum est défini par régions, dans certaines régions ça tombe à moins de 5000. Il y a aussi toutes les situations de semi esclavagisme comme dans les grandes haciendas à Negros ...
A côté de ça un jeune avec un master d'une bonne université à Manille peut gagner 30 000 et plus.
Non ce n'est pas respecté à Manila......sauf may be par les entreprises internationales ou nationales pas.....dans les commerces, restaurants........tout est ouvert.....premier arrivé premier servit!
beaucoup moins de 8000php !!!!!😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
fait un sondage Manila compris .....................et puis de Negros à Cebu dans 80% du terrtoire sans entrprises .....le plus gros entrepreneur étant le marché local....les vendeuses de marché gagnent moins de 2000 php /mois.
Le Filipin s"assoit sur les lois salariales.....il ne les connait pas!!!!
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Je ne sais pas quelles sont tes sources mais bon je connais quand même un peu la situation à Manille pour avoir employé des philippins dans le commerce justement. Et puis j'ai pas mal d'amis qui ont des boutiques/restaurants et quelques uns des entreprises un peu plus grosses ... A Manille (ailleurs j'en sais rien) La majorité des entreprises un tant soit peu sérieuses le respectent.
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exact pour les gens dipomés???qoique faux pour les infirmieres.....oui certaines gagnent moins de 5000 php et pourtant ont suivi un cursus pas facile......j''ai pu consulter les bouquins de cours , incluant de la biochimie!
En gros c 'est comme un iceberg 80% en dessous des lois sociales et salariales.
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Toi tu es Européen pas Philippin! grande différence ......Une waitress à 5000 php, une helper super qualifiée, gentille serviable, jolie a plus de 3000php avec des années d'expérience?😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉 Mon assertion est REALITE chez vous peut etre pas mais dans une famille native des Philippines stricte vérité!!!!!!
Ami Getehem et Hoost ne revez pas....les exemples cités sont réels des amis et relations trés proches , demandez le salaire des filles dans les resorts, pas une ne gagne 5000 php!!!
2000/2500 avec expérience souvent de 15ans!
De, plus, il n ya pasun foregner propriétaire de resort qui paye ses employés 5000 php mais elles sont souvent nourries mais non logées!
Ma moitié est super compétente helper depuis 15 ans sur Cebu , son salaire a oscillé depuis 7ans ans en changeant de famille!! de 2000à 3000 php
faire la cuisine;le ménage, garder les enfants, soigner les vieux meme la nuit;implanter une canule avec tous les problemes sanitaires que cela représente , se lever 3 fois par nuit! Elle a remplacé pour ce travail pendant un an , une infirmiere payée 5000 php pour faire ce boulot avec deux mos de formation !!
Ce sondage , je peux vous le prouver .........................
plus de cent personnes dans un premier temps!!
Vous vous travaillez aux phil ;la tete un peu dans le guidon ;moi j"ai le temps la bas et croyez que je n ai pas l habitude de dire des conneries et surtout de les véhiculer!!!!!!!
L'infirmiere est une de mes amies aussi !
Je connais hyper bien les rémunérations de ces personnes que je côtoies depuis 7 ans et ce que je dépense pour pallier!
Je parle de personnes travaillant en milieu philippin du nord au sud des philippines hors entreprise de plus de 5 salariés ce qui doit représenter plus de 70% du tissu commercial et CHR des Philippines.
Une vendeuse chez Robinson ou au mall of Asia ne gagne pas 5000 php/mois;Manila compris
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vieille pharmacienne de Manille......il y en a beaucoup aux philippines de vieilles pharmaciennes génreuses???....peut etre partit avecc la caisse....ou marre de driver la vieille!!! .meme en France les pharmaciens sont des Harpagons....on dit des épiciers!LOL
pas réputés pour leur générosité!
chocha chocha!
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Pas du tout. Je connais très bien cette charmante vieille dame.
Si son chauffeur - surpayé d'après tes dires- est parti, c'est simplement pour une remarque de travers qu' il n'a pas appréciée et qui l'a offensé dans son honneur ( enfin...sa fierté mal placée).
Si son salaire avait été si mirobolant par rapport à ses collègues, il aurait sans doute réfléchi à deux fois.
NB. Je ne suis pas à Manille et je paye le mien 8000 pesos x 13 mois, et cela n'a rien d'excessif par rapport à la norme, crois-moi.
je t'assure que non, je connais nombres de helpers parties sur Manila.travailler chez des Philippins pas une ne gagne 5000php/mois...... et les reflexions des vieilles , un jour on n'en peut plus......quelque soit le prix..... d'ailleurs, je pars me dévouer en voir une que 'j'aime bien et aussi trés classe et pourtant les réflexions ça fuse de temps en temps et pas besoin de le, demande, ça part au quart de tour parfois...on peut se vexer... et tout lacher ....pauvre homme!
Je n'ai pas dit qu'il était surpayé mais lui nétait pas au salaire d'une helper ou waitress!
Une helper n est pas considérée comme un driver même apres plus de 15 ans de loyaux services en étant bien sur tout rapport.....ni une waitress bien en dessous des 8000 php dont on parle......levée à 5 heures couchée à 22 heures......
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Donc toutes en dessous du salaire minima de 8000 php , dont on parle et plus pres de 2500/3000php.....waitress , femme de chambre, employé de restauration et resort, que le propriétaire soir Philippin ou Foreigner;
Les sales women en mall moins de 8000 php aussi , plutot entre 5000/6000 php
On est d'accord;Manila compris saufffffffffffff.......................;; exception
Ce qui est trés bas et fort mal payé pour conclure à 1000php prés!
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Les sales women en mall moins de 8000 php aussi , plutot entre 5000/6000 php
Non, elle sont payées au salaire minimum légal soit un peu plus de 8000 pesos/mois à Manille pour un plein temps, moins pour des temps partiels. Comme tous les salariés d'entreprises un tant soi peu sérieuses.
Pour vous aider et/ou vous départager, voici les statistiques officielles:
http://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/rtwpb.html
Les salaires minimum étant donnés par région, cliquez sur la région de votre choix. On peut s'apercevoir que les salaires sur Manille (NCR National Capital Region) sont 30% plus élevé qu'en province (389 pesos par jour, soit environ 8.000 pesos/mois)
La réalité du terrain serait-elle différente ?
Les amis, je ne suis pas faché, mais entre théorie e pratique toujours un lambda conséquent!
no probléme et bonne soirée
Je rajoute Getehem mon ami que tu payes bien avec un 13 eme mois::Awwwwwwwwww tout à ton honneur!
les Philippins doivent te prendre pour le père noel même en France dans la distri ;le père Noel du 13"eme mois est inconnu!!
mais pour notre ami, il est une réalité de constater que nous dépensons lors de vacances aux philippines en un ou deux jour ce que gagne 4/10 Philippins en 1 mois. 😐😐😐😐😐
Je ne suis ni révolutionnaire LOL;ni gauchiste caviar!
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par ce quil puait lalcool ... tu crois qua 22h30 jallais changer de taxi ... Jai une amie philippinne elle veut meme pas y entrer dans le taxi ... elle dit jeepney safer than taxi ... de plus il sest pas arrete, je saute en marche ?
pour le debat sur les salaires mon amie est jeune enseignante elle gagne 8000 pesos et elle vit dans un endroit sordide. Les Philippines c'est le tiers monde quand meme ... je suis a Baguio, et bien que je ne sois jamais alle a Rio de Janeiro ca me rappelle les images des favelas ...
J aime beaucoup les femmes philippines (les hommes beaucoup moins) mais pour l'instant je reste sur ma faim ...
Vous pouvez dire ce que vous voulez, critiquer, etc ... c'est mon ressentie ... j'ecris moins de livres que vous a en juger par la longueur des messages et la derive du debat ...
sur ceux je vais manger, je ne me connecterais plus avant 2 - 3 jours donc excusez moi si je vous repond pas ...
non je fais pas ma chochotte simplement je ne saute pas d'un taxi en marche a 22h dans une ville de 11 millions d'habitants que je ne connais pas puisque j'y viens pour la premiere fois.
Bonjour
Apres 1 nuit à Khao Sok je souhaite trouver un package 2 Jours 1 nuit sur le lac.
Après avoir beaucoup lu, je décide de "casser la tirelire" et nous offrir un tour Privé surtout pour éviter les bains de foule.
Mais en contactant plusieurs opérators, on me propose des "private tours" très chers (env 700 €) mais dans les détails les bateaux ne peuvent que partir de l'embarcadère à 10h du mat comme tous les autres. (Moi j'espérais partir très tôt). Le programme du matin est le même pour tt le monde aussi (privé ou non). On nous dépose à Midi à notre hotel flottant (j'avais choisi le Phupha waree). Après midi libre (baignade ou kayak devant l'hotel. On resort en bateau pour le coucher de soleil 1h. Et le matin on quitte l'hotel à 8h pour être à l'embarcadere à 9h30 max FIN du voyage
Donc en fait on paye cher un Private tour pour faire la mm chose que tt le monde et en mm temps.
Ou alors je suis mal tombé dans mes recherches.
J'ai contacté Panida Ladi très populaire sur les forums . On s'était mis d'accord sur un circuit privé qui collait a ma demande (départ de l'embarcadere à 8h00....., circuit très personalisé). On s'est mis d'accord sur le circuit et le prix, m'a demandé un virement par wise pour un acompte de 30%, a confirmé la réception de l'acompte . Puis 30mn plus tard m'a envoyé un message pour me dire qu'elle annulait tout car il lui était impossible de faire le tour demandé, et m'a promis le remboursement rapide de mon acompte.
J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
Bonjour,
Je voulais avoir des informations sur le télépherique et le pont , je vois pleins d'options differentes ..
Combien de temps prévoir pour faire ces 2 activités ? Si on arrive vers 16h as t'on le temps de visiter sans courir?
Merci
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
