Budget pour trois semaines au Brésil?
by Patou13190
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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A tout les amoureux du Brésil.... J'aurai aimé savoir quel budget il me faudrait par personne pour un voyage de 3 semaines au Brésil en Septembre.
Sachant que nous serons 2, voulons des logements cheap, et vouons voir les villes suivantes: rio paraty sao paulo les chutes d'iguaçu vol intérieur direction salvador de bahia recife les iles de fernando de noronha.
Je ne connais pas du tout le Brésil et j'ai un peu du mal à me redre compte des distances.Vous pensez que c'est faisable ou pas? Est-que c'est trop ambitieux?
Y-a-t'il des endroits dans mon périple sans grand intérêt?
N'hésitez pas à me donner des infos et des astuces; Je suis preneuse de tout ce qui pourra m'aider!!!!
patou
🙂patou,
Pour RIO, je peux avoir un appartement pas chère.100 euros/mois
3 chambres salles de bains cuisine salon.
rue de Lapa.un peu plus loing que Flamengo Mètro: GLORIA.déja une étudiante
est locataire d'une chambre.
Sao Paulo ;rien à voir.vie nocturne seulement...
Paraty oui mais 1 jour .
Salvador de Bahia .oui.Pelourinho (centre historique)et Barra.
voir CANAIMA (forumvoyage)
RECIFE:voir Jackybean(forumvoyage)
chutes d'iguaçu;voir www.cvc.com.br Agence de voyage Brésilien départ de Sao Paulo
ou RIO hotel/petit déjeuner/1/2 pension prise en charge à l'aéroport+escursions.
en réais!
pour un mois nous pensons 1500/2000euros.
Bonne vacances.
Madmax
Salut,
je te propose d'aller faire un tour sur mon blog j'y ai mis une page budget, nous sommes passés à Rio, Paraty, Sao Paulo, nous étions descendus jusqu'à Curitiba pour rejoindre Foz Do Iguaçu en bus.
entre Rio et Paraty compagnie de bus Costa Verde climatisé confortable
sinon nous on a pris la compagnie Colitur à partir de Angra Dos Reis (on venait d'Ouro-Preto)
et pour connaitre tous les bus, horaires et tarifs depuis Sao Paulo aller sur le site:
passagem-em-domicilio.com.br
pour les lignes aérienne intérieur compagnie GOL ou TAM
Bonne recherche, cordialement Pascale escapade.bresilienne.over-blog.com
Bonne recherche, cordialement Pascale escapade.bresilienne.over-blog.com
soleya ka leve pou tout moun
le bresil est un pays relativement cher
regardes pour faire toutes ses destinations" les pass aeriens"
il y a plusieurs années, c'etait interressant, le billet te donnait le droit a tte les escales sur 15j, maintenat je crois que ce n'est plus que 2 ou 3, renseignes toi
sao paulo c'est moche, tu peux passer
rio ns etions ds un hotel sympa et pas cher ds un bon quartier, tu peux tres bien aller en bus depuis l'aeroport et te deplacer en bus ou metro ds rio et a pieds bien sur.
de là tu peux aller a foz d'iguazu en bus en faisant des escales si tu le veux..
salvador, j'y suis allée il y a tres longtemps, sur la place du pelourinho tu as(avais)l'ecole hoteliere, je ne sais pas si elle exsiste tj, quel repas mes amis!!!😏
recife et ollinda( plus tranquile)
pour les adresses d'hotels et les bus je les ais mis ds mon blog
a+
mag
http://sudam.canalblog.com (nos voyages en amerique du sud)
http://egyptenliberte.canalblog.com
la vie est chère au brésil! nous sommes allés au paraguay 3 semaines, et une visite à rio; 😠quelle surprise, les prix sont élevés;mais les chutes d'igazu, un régal pour les yeux (déjà vu 2 fois) on ne s'en lasse pas;😎
désolée, je ne peux pas te dire exactement ton budget, mais il faut savoir que c'est cher au brésil!!
bon voyage
Merci pour toutes vos réponses. Si je regroupe toutes vos infos un tel voyage va me côuter entre 4000 et 4500 euros!!! Effectivement le Brésil est cher
Mais il paraît que quand on aime on compte pas... à voir si je pourrais me permettre de ne pas compter..
patou
Bonsoir,
J'irai au brésil en février pour visiter, mais surtout pour acheter des vêtements, chaussures, sacs, bijoux, cabelos et divers... Alors j'ai besoin de votre aide pour pouvoir faire des courses à bon prix. Connaissez-vous un bon hôtel, pas trop cher, dans un bon quartier, sans danger, à Rio de Janeiro? Est-il vrai qu'à Sao Paulo, les vêtements coutent moins chers qu'à RIO?
Merci de me répondre !
Maria01
J'irai au brésil en février pour visiter, mais surtout pour acheter des vêtements, chaussures, sacs, bijoux, cabelos et divers... Alors j'ai besoin de votre aide pour pouvoir faire des courses à bon prix. Connaissez-vous un bon hôtel, pas trop cher, dans un bon quartier, sans danger, à Rio de Janeiro? Est-il vrai qu'à Sao Paulo, les vêtements coutent moins chers qu'à RIO?
Merci de me répondre !
Maria01
vas en Chine, ca sera encore moins cher........
bonjour
pour les fringues, je ne peux te repondre, c'est un sujet qui ne m'interesse pas du tout, mais je peux te dire que la qualité n'est pas terrible ou bien il faut y mettre le prix.je me souviens d'une paire de chaussure qui m'a fait 1 semaine, a mon 1er voyage au bresil
pour l'hotel, ns sommes allés a rio au Vitoria, dont tu trouveras l'adress ds mon blog bresil/argentine, bien situé, pres d'un metro en face du musee et pas cher
a+
mag
http://sudam.canalblog.com (nos voyages en amerique du sud)
http://egyptenliberte.canalblog.com
😉Maria,
Une question que je connais bien.
pour les achats nous avons RIO SUD shopping center à Copacabana.le mème à Botafogo.
Problème les prix sont chères.
je dirige les routards rua Santa Clara n°75 ou 12 étages de boutiques vous attende.
robes, sacs, bijoux, jeans.ect...bonne qualité, souvent des artistes Brésiliennes s'habillent
la.
Hotels bon marché.Flamengo .bus .Métro (Catète, Largo do Machedo)
hotel UNICO rua Buarque de Macedo 54 tel:2205-86-96
Dimanche :feira hippie praça Général Osorio Ipanèma (le meilleur)
tout les soir fin de l'av. Atlantica 18h/ 24h bijoux maillots de bain ect.....
Plus d'informations ?
MADMAX09
Salut ! 🙂
Pour loger à Rio, je te conseille le quartier de Copacabana. Plage toute proche évidement, et facilité de transports avec les bus et le métro (station Siquera Campos). Pour ce qui est de la sécurité, il ne faut pas s'en faire une montagne. Rio n'est pas forcément plus dangereuse qu'une autre grande métropole. Il faut juste faire attention, respecter les règle sde bases sans tomber dans la parano. 😉
Stef
Pour loger à Rio, je te conseille le quartier de Copacabana. Plage toute proche évidement, et facilité de transports avec les bus et le métro (station Siquera Campos). Pour ce qui est de la sécurité, il ne faut pas s'en faire une montagne. Rio n'est pas forcément plus dangereuse qu'une autre grande métropole. Il faut juste faire attention, respecter les règle sde bases sans tomber dans la parano. 😉
Stef
Marseille, ma ville
Rio de Janeiro 2008 & 2011
Cyclades 2016
Salut,
c'est vrai le Brésil est cher, surtout les vols intérieurs. Mais si tu arrives par une Cie brésilienne (TAM, ou Varig, mais je te déconseille Varig car en liquidation), tu peux avoir un pass pour qques vols intérieurs à un prix forfaitaire.
Pour Fernando de Noronha, je te le recommande, c'est vraiment super, mais tu devras acheter tes billets sur place (départ à Recife ou Natal par la Cie Trip qui a le monopole : voetrip.com.br) le billet coûte dans les 900-1000 reais (300euros A/R) + une taxe journalière à payer (c'est un parc naturel): 10 euros par jour, dégressive. le nombre de touristes admis sur l'île est limité (à la capacité hôtelière) les hôtels et pousada sont assez chers ( tu ne trouveras pas en dessous de 50 euros même pour les plus modestes).
recife: 1/2 journée suffit amplement. Autour de Recife, vois plutôt Olinda au nord et Porto de Galinhas au sud. São Paulo: d'accord avec les autres réponses qu'il n'y a pas trop d'intérêt touristique Iguaçu: sublime.
Les distances sont très grandes. Les vols sont souvent en retard, avec bcp de connexion. Par ex. pas de vol direct d'Iguaçu à Salvador, puisque tu sembles vouloir faire ça. Connexion à SP, durée totale avec l'attente, probablement 5 heures (1h Iguazu-SP; 2h30 SP-Salvador + l'attente. prix au min. 400 euros a/r). vol Rio recife: 2h50 ; au min. 300 euros a/r. avec décalage horaire.
A Rio, contrairement à un autre membre, je te déconseille Copacabana (quartier un peu vieux, années 60s, bruyant, bcp de putes le soir, un peu craignos), va plutôt à Ipanema si tu veux une belle plage et un environnement plus chic et plus sécurisé ou à Flamengo ou Gloria, plus populaire, plus petit budget et justement moins craignos (à condition de ne pas exhiber sa richesse; c'est là où je reste en général quand je vais à Rio).
On peut trouver des petites pousadas correctes pour des prix abordables (à partir de 20 euros) mais ce n'est pas le grand luxe. Un peu plus cher à Rio.
Globalement, je trouve que 3 semaines c'est peu pour tout ce que tu veux faire. La première fois que je suis venu ici, je suis resté 1 mois et je n'ai fait que Rio, Paraty, Ilha Grande, Petropolis et les villes historiques du Minas (Ouro Preto, Tirandentes, qui sont vraiment à ne pas louper), le tout uniquement en bus.
Pour Fernando de Noronha, je te le recommande, c'est vraiment super, mais tu devras acheter tes billets sur place (départ à Recife ou Natal par la Cie Trip qui a le monopole : voetrip.com.br) le billet coûte dans les 900-1000 reais (300euros A/R) + une taxe journalière à payer (c'est un parc naturel): 10 euros par jour, dégressive. le nombre de touristes admis sur l'île est limité (à la capacité hôtelière) les hôtels et pousada sont assez chers ( tu ne trouveras pas en dessous de 50 euros même pour les plus modestes).
recife: 1/2 journée suffit amplement. Autour de Recife, vois plutôt Olinda au nord et Porto de Galinhas au sud. São Paulo: d'accord avec les autres réponses qu'il n'y a pas trop d'intérêt touristique Iguaçu: sublime.
Les distances sont très grandes. Les vols sont souvent en retard, avec bcp de connexion. Par ex. pas de vol direct d'Iguaçu à Salvador, puisque tu sembles vouloir faire ça. Connexion à SP, durée totale avec l'attente, probablement 5 heures (1h Iguazu-SP; 2h30 SP-Salvador + l'attente. prix au min. 400 euros a/r). vol Rio recife: 2h50 ; au min. 300 euros a/r. avec décalage horaire.
A Rio, contrairement à un autre membre, je te déconseille Copacabana (quartier un peu vieux, années 60s, bruyant, bcp de putes le soir, un peu craignos), va plutôt à Ipanema si tu veux une belle plage et un environnement plus chic et plus sécurisé ou à Flamengo ou Gloria, plus populaire, plus petit budget et justement moins craignos (à condition de ne pas exhiber sa richesse; c'est là où je reste en général quand je vais à Rio).
On peut trouver des petites pousadas correctes pour des prix abordables (à partir de 20 euros) mais ce n'est pas le grand luxe. Un peu plus cher à Rio.
Globalement, je trouve que 3 semaines c'est peu pour tout ce que tu veux faire. La première fois que je suis venu ici, je suis resté 1 mois et je n'ai fait que Rio, Paraty, Ilha Grande, Petropolis et les villes historiques du Minas (Ouro Preto, Tirandentes, qui sont vraiment à ne pas louper), le tout uniquement en bus.
4000- 4500 euros???????🤪 Non, quand même, heureusement...Il faut garder en tête que le salaire minimum tourne autour de 80 euros. Donc, oui, le Brésil est cher pour un pays d'Amérique du Sud, certes, et on ne mange pas pour 50 cts d'euros comme en Bolivie ou au Pérou (en Bolivie, pour 30 euros la nuit, tu as accès à des hôtels de charme...). Mais j'ai souvent mangé à volonté et très correctement pour 3 euros (les "commercial" dans les rodizio...).
De là à claquer une somme pareille en trois semaines! Cela sera valable si tu t'offres des folies!
Merci Madmax et aussi Stadium pour vos informations.
Madmax, Si je veux effectuer ce voyage, c'est surtout pour faire les shoppings, car en fait, j'ai une boutique de vêtements. Alors il faut bien que je puisse étudier ce projet de voyage pour voir si ça sera rentable ou pas. La chine ne m'intéresse pas trop avec leurs chinoiseries qui ne mettent pas du temps. Je veux une marchandise de qualité, mais à bon prix. C'est la raison pour laquelle j'envisage d'aller au Bresil, mais avec toutes les informations que je reçois, je me demotive du jour en jour sur ce voyage.
Vraiment je compte beaucoup sur vos conseils. A très bientôt!
Maria
Madmax, Si je veux effectuer ce voyage, c'est surtout pour faire les shoppings, car en fait, j'ai une boutique de vêtements. Alors il faut bien que je puisse étudier ce projet de voyage pour voir si ça sera rentable ou pas. La chine ne m'intéresse pas trop avec leurs chinoiseries qui ne mettent pas du temps. Je veux une marchandise de qualité, mais à bon prix. C'est la raison pour laquelle j'envisage d'aller au Bresil, mais avec toutes les informations que je reçois, je me demotive du jour en jour sur ce voyage.
Vraiment je compte beaucoup sur vos conseils. A très bientôt!
Maria
Maria,
voyons les choses autrement.
demander les usines de vètements.
voir le Consulat de France principalement la chambre du commerce .
elle donnera des adresses et une invitation pour les visites.
av.Présidente Antonio Carlos 58 RIO DE JANEIRO;
www.ambafrance.org.br
tél:39-74-66-99
toujours parler de votre projet avec le Président.qui vous donnera une orientation.
MADMAX09
Bonjour.
Je vais passer 1 mois au Brésil. Je serai logé chez les parents d'une amie, qui me fera visiter le coin. Elle est de Curitiba. Cependant, je ne me vois pas me faire entretenir tout un mois. C'est pourquoi j'aimerais avoir une estimation du budget qu'il me faudrait.
Des sorties sur Sao Paulo sont prévues, notemment une exposition de manga (type Japan Expo), et d'autres visites touristiques (surprises... ^^). Pour mes dépenses personnelles (billets d'entrée, nourriture, sorties diverses, souvenirs), je compte prévoir 150 à 200€. Celà est-il suffisant? Mais pour participer aux frais de la vie sur place, je n'ai pas d'ordre d'idée.
Merci déavance pour vos réponses. Merineos
Je vais passer 1 mois au Brésil. Je serai logé chez les parents d'une amie, qui me fera visiter le coin. Elle est de Curitiba. Cependant, je ne me vois pas me faire entretenir tout un mois. C'est pourquoi j'aimerais avoir une estimation du budget qu'il me faudrait.
Des sorties sur Sao Paulo sont prévues, notemment une exposition de manga (type Japan Expo), et d'autres visites touristiques (surprises... ^^). Pour mes dépenses personnelles (billets d'entrée, nourriture, sorties diverses, souvenirs), je compte prévoir 150 à 200€. Celà est-il suffisant? Mais pour participer aux frais de la vie sur place, je n'ai pas d'ordre d'idée.
Merci déavance pour vos réponses. Merineos
Difficile d'établir le budget de quelqu'un d'autre...
Surtout sans savoir jusqu'à quel point tu ne veux pas te faire entretenir ni si tu espères voir autre chose que Curitiba (ville sympa mais dommage en 1 mois de ne rien voir d'autres...)
Au niveau bouffe, si tu prends 1 repas par jour en dehors de chez ton amie (sans faire d'extra, resto au kilo), je pense que tu t'en sortirai avec 300 à 450 reais (100 à 150 €) pour le mois.
Après, reste les "a cotés": transport urbain, hotel et transport si tu veux passer quelques jour à Florianopolis, inviter ton amie et ses parents un jour au resto, sorties, souvenirs...
A la sortie, 150 à 200€ me semble une fourchette assez basse.
Sinon, pour rebondir sur les vêtements/chaussures au Brésil, je trouve au contraire que le rapport qualité/prix est excellent... La situation a beaucoup changée ces dernières années. L'industrie brésilienne, comme tout le monde, a souffert de la concurrence asiatique sur les entrées de gamme et elle s'est resserée sur le moyen/haut de gamme. Adieu l'époque ou on partait avec 1 t-shirt et 1 jeans et ou on achetait des vêtements quand les anciens etaient sales... Ca n'empêche que si les bas de gamme sont les mêmes (tarif et qualité 'made in china') qu'en France, les gammes moyennes ont un rapport qualité prix excellent. Au niveau fringue, fuir C&A, Carrefour... et ne pas hésiter a rentrer dans de petites boutiques ou on trouve des merveilles de "l'industria brasileira" (chemises, costumes, sous vetements féminins...) Au niveau chaussures, des marques comme westcoast (www.westcoast.com.br), Azaleia (www.hotsiteazaleia.com.br), Olympikus (www.olympikus.com.br) ou encore Rider, Rainha, Havainas offrent un rapport qualité/prix excellent.
Après, reste les "a cotés": transport urbain, hotel et transport si tu veux passer quelques jour à Florianopolis, inviter ton amie et ses parents un jour au resto, sorties, souvenirs...
A la sortie, 150 à 200€ me semble une fourchette assez basse.
Sinon, pour rebondir sur les vêtements/chaussures au Brésil, je trouve au contraire que le rapport qualité/prix est excellent... La situation a beaucoup changée ces dernières années. L'industrie brésilienne, comme tout le monde, a souffert de la concurrence asiatique sur les entrées de gamme et elle s'est resserée sur le moyen/haut de gamme. Adieu l'époque ou on partait avec 1 t-shirt et 1 jeans et ou on achetait des vêtements quand les anciens etaient sales... Ca n'empêche que si les bas de gamme sont les mêmes (tarif et qualité 'made in china') qu'en France, les gammes moyennes ont un rapport qualité prix excellent. Au niveau fringue, fuir C&A, Carrefour... et ne pas hésiter a rentrer dans de petites boutiques ou on trouve des merveilles de "l'industria brasileira" (chemises, costumes, sous vetements féminins...) Au niveau chaussures, des marques comme westcoast (www.westcoast.com.br), Azaleia (www.hotsiteazaleia.com.br), Olympikus (www.olympikus.com.br) ou encore Rider, Rainha, Havainas offrent un rapport qualité/prix excellent.
Ok merco pour ta réponse.
Donc selon toi, si je prends 300 à 400€ pour le mois, ça devrait être pas trop mal?
Je pense que nous allons bouger sur Sao Paulo et les environs.
Le souci, c'est que je ne sais pas trop ce qu'elle compte m'emmener voir, ni ce qu'il y a sur place.
Merci en tout cas à toi.
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Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!



