Pekin-Datong-Pingyao-Xian en train en février 2011
by Philetnat
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'organise actuellement notre circuit de 3 semaines en Chine entre le 15 février et le 4 mars 2011.
Il y a une question que je me pose, elle peut paraitre ridicule mais ......nous comptons prendre le train de nuit à Pékin pour Datong, visiter Datong via le CITS, reprendre le train de nuit pour Pingyao, y rester une nuit et au bout du 2eme jour, reprendre le train pour Xian.
N'est ce pas trop de train? et surtout que fait on de nos bagages à Datong ????Nous partons à 7 avec enfants parents et grand-parents.On ne peut donc pas voyager léger, surtout à cette saison.
Les trains sont ils chauffés? Cette partie de notre séjour m'inquiète!!
Si quelqu'un a des réponses, merci d'avance
la question n'est pas le train mais cé le tempo de votre voyage surtout si tu as des enfants et des personnes agées.
pour les valises, tu les laisses a la consigne a datong
pour les valises, tu les laisses a la consigne a datong
La plus grosse épine que j'avais dans le pied, tu viens de me l'enlever.Merci infiniment, cette consigne à Datong est une bénédiction!!pour le tempo, il n'y a que cette partie la qui est serrée, pour le reste du voyage, nous prenons notre temps....nous reviendrons en Chine s'il le faut mais nous ne voulons pas courir, c'est dailleurs pour cela que nous n'avons pas pris de voyage organisé.
pour ne pas courir il vaut mieux rester la nuit a datong surtout en hiver
froid en general, mais si il y a du soleil en journée c'est frais ou meme un bon temps
J'ai fait en septembre 2009 le trajet que vous mentionnez (avec mon mari, tous 2 âgés de 60 ans) , sauf que nous arrivions de Mongolie.
Datong était notre première étape chinoise : aucun problème en passant par le CITS situé dans la gare même et qui est organisé pour garder nos bagages, nous vendre un circuit très très bien (grottes de Yungang et Monastère suspendu, transport en minibus et repas compris) et nous a réservé notre train de nuit pour Pingyao...
A Pingyao, splendide destination, nous sommes restés 2 jours, donc une nuit à l'hôtel qui nous a réservé notre train de nuit pour le lendemain soir à destination de Xi'An où nous sommes arrivés au petit matin.
De Xi'An (toujours grâce à notre hôtel de Pingyao) nous avions un train de nuit de réservé le soir même pour Pékin (nous ne pouvions prolonger notre séjour à Xi'an en raison des vacances en Chine ; de ce fait les trains à dates ultérieures étaient complets).
Voilà, côté climat ce n'était pas les mêmes dates, mais côté logistique c'est parfaitement faisable.
Margot
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bonsoir,
je sais qu'on peut prendre le train du soir a datong mais le probleme c'est qu'ils sont nombreux et de plus cé en hiver (froid et journée courte)
je sais qu'on peut prendre le train du soir a datong mais le probleme c'est qu'ils sont nombreux et de plus cé en hiver (froid et journée courte)
Toutes ces réponses me rassurent énormément.Quant au climat, je sais bien que malheureusement nous allons avoir froid, mais nous allons dévaliser le stock chez "damart" avant de partir!!! Faut le prendre comme ça, nous n'avons pas eu le choix des dates, mais il parait que la Chine en hiver, c'est très beau!Peut être verrons nous quelques paysages sous la neige ?? nous qui la voyons jamais!😉
Peut être verrons nous quelques paysages sous la neige ?? nous qui la voyons jamais!😉
Bonjour,
N'espérez pas voir de la neige : dans la plus grande partie de la Chine, le climat est très sec en hiver. Il peut neiger, certes, mais alors les transports , notamment routiers et aériens, sont complètement désorganisés, faute de matériel de déneigement suffisant et d'organisation à la hauteur. Et puis une ville sous la neige, c'est très joli le premier jour, mais la neige devient très vite sale, salissante et glissante.
Bonjour,
N'espérez pas voir de la neige : dans la plus grande partie de la Chine, le climat est très sec en hiver. Il peut neiger, certes, mais alors les transports , notamment routiers et aériens, sont complètement désorganisés, faute de matériel de déneigement suffisant et d'organisation à la hauteur. Et puis une ville sous la neige, c'est très joli le premier jour, mais la neige devient très vite sale, salissante et glissante.
donc c'est froid et sec ? avec un peu de chance .... du soleil?
On a souvent du ciel bleu en hiver... surtout si on s'éloigne de la pollution urbaine !
On a souvent du ciel bleu en hiver... surtout si on s'éloigne de la pollution urbaine !
si vous savez patiner allez faire un tour sur le lac gelé du palais d'été à pekin
😉
Ou bien sur le lac Houhai, au nord-ouest de la Cité Interdite. A ne pas rater pour l'ambiance.
voila qui risque de ravir les enfants.J'ose supposer qu'ils louent des patins aux abords des lacs.
Avec des enfants, il "faut" aller à Houhai. Il y a tous les âges sur la glace. Cela me faisait penser irrésistiblement aux tableaux de Brughel; j'y suis allé plusieurs week-ends d'affilée. Bien sûr, on peut louer des patins, 20Y si ma mémoire est bonne, et ils sont tout à fait corrects. L'entrée aux "patinoires" délimitées sur le lac est de l'ordre de 10Y.
Avec des enfants, il "faut" aller à Houhai. Il y a tous les âges sur la glace. Cela me faisait penser irrésistiblement aux tableaux de Brughel; j'y suis allé plusieurs week-ends d'affilée. Bien sûr, on peut louer des patins, 20Y si ma mémoire est bonne, et ils sont tout à fait corrects. L'entrée aux "patinoires" délimitées sur le lac est de l'ordre de 10Y.
oh que oui, fevrier est encore loin mais j'ai vraiment hate d'y être, et préparer le voyage nous met déjà un pied là bas.Nous avons prévu 5 jours à Pékin, j'ai peur que ce soit juste mais je voulais absolument voir les temples suspendus de Datong donc 1 jour de moins à Pékin, mais on ne peut pas tout avoir n'est-ce pas !! et puis 3 semaines dans ce beau pays c'est court mais c'est déja pas mal.
Attention :
cet hiver, j'y suis allé jusqu'au WE du 6-7 février, et quand je suis revenu de vacances de Nouvel An chinois deux semaines plus tard, c'était fini : les températures étaient remontées. Le réchauffement climatique... mes collègues chinois me confirment qu'on patinait bien plus tard en hiver dans leur enfance. Et dites vous bien que le basculement de saison hiver/été (et été/hiver) est toujours très brutal à Beijing.
Donc allez-y dès votre arrivée à Beijing, même si le temps est gris. Evidemment, par grand soleil, c'est beaucoup mieux, mais vous n'aurez peut-être pas le choix. J'y suis allé aussi par temps très maussade et cela vaut le coup quand même.
cet hiver, j'y suis allé jusqu'au WE du 6-7 février, et quand je suis revenu de vacances de Nouvel An chinois deux semaines plus tard, c'était fini : les températures étaient remontées. Le réchauffement climatique... mes collègues chinois me confirment qu'on patinait bien plus tard en hiver dans leur enfance. Et dites vous bien que le basculement de saison hiver/été (et été/hiver) est toujours très brutal à Beijing.
Donc allez-y dès votre arrivée à Beijing, même si le temps est gris. Evidemment, par grand soleil, c'est beaucoup mieux, mais vous n'aurez peut-être pas le choix. J'y suis allé aussi par temps très maussade et cela vaut le coup quand même.
bonjour,
j'aimerai pouvoir me faire une idée des tarifs sur le trajet en train que vous mentionnez... MErci d'avance
j'aimerai pouvoir me faire une idée des tarifs sur le trajet en train que vous mentionnez... MErci d'avance
Tina
243 yuans pour celui de 21h49
A Pingyao, splendide destination, nous sommes restés 2 jours, donc une nuit à l'hôtel qui nous a réservé notre train de nuit pour le lendemain soir à destination de Xi'An où nous sommes arrivés au petit matin.
bonjour,
combien vous a coûté votre billet pour le train de nuit pour Xi'an? combien de temps à duré le voyage? et enfin, la gare de pingyao est-elle la même qu'à l'aller?
merci d'avance pour vos réponses à toutes ces questions ! 🙂
bonjour,
combien vous a coûté votre billet pour le train de nuit pour Xi'an? combien de temps à duré le voyage? et enfin, la gare de pingyao est-elle la même qu'à l'aller?
merci d'avance pour vos réponses à toutes ces questions ! 🙂
A Pingyao, splendide destination, nous sommes restés 2 jours, donc une nuit à l'hôtel qui nous a réservé notre train de nuit pour le lendemain soir à destination de Xi'An où nous sommes arrivés au petit matin.
bonjour,
combien vous a coûté votre billet pour le train de nuit pour Xi'an? combien de temps à duré le voyage? et enfin, la gare de pingyao est-elle la même qu'à l'aller?
merci d'avance pour vos réponses à toutes ces questions ! 🙂
Bonjour,
Pingyao - Xi'an : trois trains de nuit 20:47 07:22 21:38 06:55 00:34 08:43 tarif couchette dure : 83 RMB / mollle 135 RMB (quelques RMB de différence selon les trains) source www.tielu.org
bonjour,
combien vous a coûté votre billet pour le train de nuit pour Xi'an? combien de temps à duré le voyage? et enfin, la gare de pingyao est-elle la même qu'à l'aller?
merci d'avance pour vos réponses à toutes ces questions ! 🙂
Bonjour,
Pingyao - Xi'an : trois trains de nuit 20:47 07:22 21:38 06:55 00:34 08:43 tarif couchette dure : 83 RMB / mollle 135 RMB (quelques RMB de différence selon les trains) source www.tielu.org
Amis voyageurs, bonsoir.
Avec mon épouse nous serons en Chine du 06.09.11 au 06.10.2011 et nous avons en projet le même trajet par le train que vous avez semble t-il réalisé en 2010, auriez vous quelques informations à nous communiquer sur votre expérience ?
D'avance merci.
Toutes nos amitiés, Maryvonne & Bernard
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Philippe
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks