Voyage à pied de Paris à Pékin ou Xi'an
by Jcangot
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Je m'appelle Jean-Charles, j'ai 28 ans et, j'ai un projet fou.
Je souhaiterai partir à pied de Paris à Pékin ou Xi'an. Le but est de rencontrer mes amis rencontrés lors de mes différents voyages d'études.
Le voyage se déroulera ainsi de Paris à Hambourg (Allemagne), de Hambourg à Berne (Suisse), de Berne à Istanbul, d'Istanbul à Ashgabat ou Tedjen (au Turkmenistan), et du Turkmenistan à Xi'an ou Pékin en Chine.
Je souhaiterai et compterai le faire à pied sans argent, avec juste des économies pour les visas, assurances et coups durs s'il y en a. La nourriture et le logement se fera par les rencontres avec les gens sur le trajet.
Je souhaiterai partir l'année prochaine en mars ou avril, car je pense que c'est une bonne période pour partir et pour être plus au sud dès que l'hiver approchera.
J'ai quelques questions: Pensez-vous que d'être un homme et voyager en solitaire défavorise la générosité des gens et accroît la peur et la crainte d'aller à ma rencontre? Est-ce bien une bonne idée de voyager seul, car s'il y a un problème, je serai tout seul? Qu'en pensez-vous?
Voilà, je vous souhaite une bonne journée et la réalisation de vos projets.
JC
Bonjour, deux autres livres intéressants dans l'esprit de ton projet
1) le pèlerin d'0rient de Jean-Xavier de Villemagne, seul à travers 10 pays de Paris à Jérusalem en 7 mois, il avait un budget. Le fait d'être seul n'a pas été à la lecture du livre un facteur de peur pour les autres.
2) Un chemin de promesses de Edouard et Mathilde Cortès 6000km à pied et sans argent de Paris à Jérusalem en à peu près 230 jours. Le voyage sans argent en traversant 14 pays semble une très belle épreuve mais qui nécessite manifestement une très forte motovation pour ne pas dire une foi à toute épreuve. Dans ce livre il y entre autre une très belle formule "Le rôle de la raison est de montrer qu'il faut aller plus loin qu'elle" Maurice Blondel. Entretiens ton rêve et il deviendra réalité Luc
Fais-le sans trop écouter car beaucoup te découragerons
Moi je pense que les seuls problèmes avec la population qui serait éventuellement craintive tu peux les avoir en Europe car la peur est entretenue par les médias dans le monde occidental.
Mais y'a qu'un seul moyen de le savoir...
Chacun a des expériences différentes et aborde les gens différemment donc....
Fais-le si c'est ton rêve!
Bonne continuation
Moi je pense que les seuls problèmes avec la population qui serait éventuellement craintive tu peux les avoir en Europe car la peur est entretenue par les médias dans le monde occidental.
Mais y'a qu'un seul moyen de le savoir...
Chacun a des expériences différentes et aborde les gens différemment donc....
Fais-le si c'est ton rêve!
Bonne continuation
Merci de ta réponse.
Bien sur c'est comme dans tout, le plus dure est de franchir le pas.
Je verrai bien avec les gens sur le chemin, le plus dure c'est de se faire accepter nos différences et d'en tirer une expérience de vie.
Cela me fait penser c'est comme à l'école on appréhende d'aller au tableau, au début c'est dure et après ça devient plus facile. Il faut juste vaincre ses peurs.
Je te tiens au courant.
@+ JC
Bien sur c'est comme dans tout, le plus dure est de franchir le pas.
Je verrai bien avec les gens sur le chemin, le plus dure c'est de se faire accepter nos différences et d'en tirer une expérience de vie.
Cela me fait penser c'est comme à l'école on appréhende d'aller au tableau, au début c'est dure et après ça devient plus facile. Il faut juste vaincre ses peurs.
Je te tiens au courant.
@+ JC
Prenez bien votre temps, rien ne presse, imprégnez vous des tomes de bernard olivier puis passez a d'autres lectures.
bien sincèrement,
rené
ps: les Poussins, un couple très sympa a réalisé aussi un périple du Cap au lac de Thibériade, sur 3 ans, superbe, ils font des conférences, voyez leur blog, et essayez de les rencontrer aussi, ils sont formidables: http://www.africatrek.com/weblog/index.php?Africatrek
ps: les Poussins, un couple très sympa a réalisé aussi un périple du Cap au lac de Thibériade, sur 3 ans, superbe, ils font des conférences, voyez leur blog, et essayez de les rencontrer aussi, ils sont formidables: http://www.africatrek.com/weblog/index.php?Africatrek
Bonjour, je répond a votre message car j'aimerais également rejoindre la chine a pieds de france, et après avoir passés quelque heures a chercher sur la toile j'ai lu des messages comme le votre de personnes qui vont ou sont en allé chine de cette façon et cela me conforte dans mon idée d'y arriver même si je n'y connais pas grand chose dans les expéditions.J'ai déjà retenu nombre d'ouvrages à lires sur le sujet et jaimerais avoir plus de renseignement, par exemple j'ai lu que le visa chinois devait etre demandé (depuis fevrier) en france et je m'interroge sur le délai d'obtention et la validité de ce visa; quel est le meilleur itinéraire, le matériel a emporter, y a t il des vaccins ou ce genre de choses a faire o préalable.
Mon but est d'aller à Dengfeng jusqu'au temple shaolin, et un voyage comme ça doit etre bien préparé, je vous serait reconnaissant de m'éclairer si toute fois vous en saviez plus merci.
Bon courage a tous ceux qui désir prendre le large, je pense que rien n'est impossible et que ça a déjà été prouvé.
Bon courage a tous ceux qui désir prendre le large, je pense que rien n'est impossible et que ça a déjà été prouvé.
Visa pour la Chine.
Tu trouveras toutes les informations sur ce site : http://www.action-visas.com/public/?destination=CN&rubrique=visas
merci pour le lien, ça répond tout à fait à mes attentes.
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I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro