Circuits organisés par des agences traditionnelles en Namibie
by Poppea
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Je désire partir en Namibie en septembre ou octobre 2020
Hélas je ne suis pas arrivée a convaincre d'ami(e)s pour de m'accompagner dans ce voyage 😕
Je me tourne donc vers des circuits organisés par des agences traditionnelles notamment
nouvelles frontières qui propose un circuit très complet " Pays Himba, dunes et réserves de Namibie" a un tarif raisonnable car surtout en camp
Quelqu'un a t il fait ce circuit récemment et qu'en pensez vous ?
Merci pour vos futurs réponses
Bonjour,
Je viens de lire votre message pour la Namibie. Hier, j'en ai posté un aussi, voir ci-dessous.
En cas d'intérêt, nous pouvons en parler.
Bien cordialement.
Gino
Mon e-mail : gino80078@outlook.fr
Message du blog J'ai l'intention de visiter la Namibie de fin septembre/octobre 2020, pendant 2-3 semaines, et je voudrais rejoindre un groupe de 2 à 5 personnes. Je peux aussi être flexible sur les dates. J'ai 72 ans, très actif et en bonne santé. Je fais régulièrement du trekking et de la randonnée en montagne. Je suis d'origine italienne, vivant en France depuis de nombreuses années et parlant également anglais, espagnol et allemand. j'ai déjà visité de nombreux pays à travers le monde. J'aime cuisiner, lire, écouter la musique, rencontrer des gens de différentes ethnies…. serait heureux de recevoir toute proposition et/ou conseils. Merci d'avance Gino
Message du blog J'ai l'intention de visiter la Namibie de fin septembre/octobre 2020, pendant 2-3 semaines, et je voudrais rejoindre un groupe de 2 à 5 personnes. Je peux aussi être flexible sur les dates. J'ai 72 ans, très actif et en bonne santé. Je fais régulièrement du trekking et de la randonnée en montagne. Je suis d'origine italienne, vivant en France depuis de nombreuses années et parlant également anglais, espagnol et allemand. j'ai déjà visité de nombreux pays à travers le monde. J'aime cuisiner, lire, écouter la musique, rencontrer des gens de différentes ethnies…. serait heureux de recevoir toute proposition et/ou conseils. Merci d'avance Gino
Ginoldl
Bonjour Gino
Merci d'avoir participé a ma recherche de renseignements Les réponses ne sont pas si nombreuses !!!!
J'aime aussi énormément voyager surtout en petit groupe au plus près de la nature mais avec un minimum de confort
Je pars habituellement avec des amis mais pour ce projet personne ne veut me suivre😕
J'hésite donc a faire ce voyage sans mes repères habituels
La formule proposée par Nouvelle frontière est intéressante , maximum 16 participants circuit me semble t il complet allant jusqu'aux chutes d'Epupa
Logements en petits hotels , lodges et camping
Avez vous progressé dans vos recherches ?,
Vous pouvez toujours voir ce tour opérateur hélas pas de commentaires par les membres de VF sur ce séjour organisé, je pense qu'ils partent plus en indépendants et en autotour
Bien a vous
Françoise
Bonsoir François,
Merci pour votre mail. En principe, j’organise moi-même les voyages mes, l’Afrique, à part le Kenya, je ne connais pas bien. J’ai un ami qui connaît le Botswana, et qui se trouve actuellement en Nouvelle Zélande. Il pourrait être aussi intéressé. Nous avons un peu de temps devant nous. Je vais regarder ce qui propose NF. Avez-vous le lien?
En principe, je dois partir le 03 mars, et pour 2 mois, pour la Chine, Thailand et Sumatra. Mais avec ce « coronavirus »???
J’habite dans la région lyonnaise mais, jusqu’à fin février, je suis chez ma fille à Antibes.
On reste en contact.
Cordialement.
Gino
Ginoldl
Bonjour Gino,
Comme vous avez donné votre adresse mail sur votre 1er message
je vous propose de continuer a parler de notre recherche par ce biais
Qu'en pensez vous ?
L'intitulé du circuit sur NF est : " Pays Himba, dunes et réserves de Namibie" 17 jours/14 nuits
Françoise
Bonsoir Françoise,
Pas de souci. J'ai simplement l'habitude de mettre mon adresse. Mail.
J'ai regardé un peu le circuit sur NF, voici mon avis:
-J'ai l'habitude d'organiser moi-même mes voyages de A à Z; seul, avec des compagnons ou rejoindre des groupes. Je passe très rarement par une agence.
- de plus, la Namibie se prêtes beaucoup plus au self-drive et au tourisme individuel pourquoi ne pas tenter l’experience ?
La visite de parc comme Etosha dans un bus ou camion safari ce n’est pas le top, quand on voyage en self-drive on profite beaucoup plus de l’observation de la faune, prendre plus de temps pour la découverte, etc.
D'après les différents blogs, la Namibie est un pays sécurisant et, si on se présente dans un petit village, on peut dialoguer plus facilement avec les tribus que si on arrive avec un bus!? La préparation du voyage est déjà une découverte du pays et c’est aussi un plaisir.
J'ai mis aussi un blog sur le Routard et je viens de recevoir une proposition, mais pour déc. (voir ci-dessous).
Si cela peut vous intéresser, vous pouvez le contacter sur le forum du Routard.
J'attends de vos nouvelle. Passez une agréable soirée.
Gino
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Road trip en déc 2020? (envoyé par newwateur)Posté le 26/01/2020 bonjour Gino, merci pour ton msg :) les 3 groupes de avril, août et oct sont complets. mais j'aimerais bien profiter des vacances scolaires locales en déc pour repartir. Du 1er au 21 environ. On rentrerait ensuite ensemble en Europe pour les fêtes. Le bon côté : il fait chaud et les journées sont longues donc on peut profiter des soirées au coin du feu et le camping est plus agréable. C'est la basse saison donc le logement est moins cher. J'ai reçu d'autres msg ces derniers jours. Je vais leur poser la question aussi. Si ça te tente, tu me dis? Ds le cas où on arrive à former un groupe, j'aurai besoin de vos num de tél. Pour créer un groupe whatsapp. Plus facile pour communiquer. Tu peux me donner le tien? à bientôt de tes nouvelles :) et bon dimanche! Eudes
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Road trip en déc 2020? (envoyé par newwateur)Posté le 26/01/2020 bonjour Gino, merci pour ton msg :) les 3 groupes de avril, août et oct sont complets. mais j'aimerais bien profiter des vacances scolaires locales en déc pour repartir. Du 1er au 21 environ. On rentrerait ensuite ensemble en Europe pour les fêtes. Le bon côté : il fait chaud et les journées sont longues donc on peut profiter des soirées au coin du feu et le camping est plus agréable. C'est la basse saison donc le logement est moins cher. J'ai reçu d'autres msg ces derniers jours. Je vais leur poser la question aussi. Si ça te tente, tu me dis? Ds le cas où on arrive à former un groupe, j'aurai besoin de vos num de tél. Pour créer un groupe whatsapp. Plus facile pour communiquer. Tu peux me donner le tien? à bientôt de tes nouvelles :) et bon dimanche! Eudes
Ginoldl
Bonjour, depuis quelques mois je "rêve" de visiter la Namibie. J'ai l'habitude de voyager, souvent seule, mais pour cette destination il me semble plus indiqué de voyager à plusieurs !
Je suis plutôt allergique aux voyages organisés, et j'ai vu votre conversation...
Je suis de Toulouse et pour ma part, je pourrai voyager en octobre 2020.
Éventuellement...
Bonne journée à vous !
Lyane
Bonjour Lyane,
En effet je suis en contact avec Gino au sujet d'un éventuel voyage en Namibie
Je ne suis pas habituée a partir seule mais avec un groupe d'amis , le plus souvent possible en indépendants, avec guide et chauffeur( ce qui est recommandé voir obligatoire pour certaines destinations ) le tout planifié depuis une agence soit française soit locale
C'est donc une première pour moi d'envisager ce "self-drive" avec des personnes inconnues ( pour le moments ) mais animés par l'envie de découvrir ce pays en tout autonomie
Personnellement le mois d'octobre me convient parfaitement Quand a la durée tout dépendra du circuit envisagé
Restons en contact
Bonne fin de journée
Amicalement
Françoise
Bonsoir Lyane,
Merci pour votre voyage. Ça commence à être intéressant. Nous sommes déjà 4 à vouloir partir en Namibie en Octobre.
Je vais abandonner l'idée de Eudes (celui qui propose un circuit avec son 4X4 en déc. 2020).
Nous allons essayer de regrouper un max d'infos et voir comment s'organiser.
Pour moi, l'idéal serait qu'on puisse former un groupe mixte 2 Mr et 2-3 dames. ( un groupe de 4-5 personnes). J'ai déjà récupéré pas mal d'infos sur un circuit de 2 semaines en Namibie ou 3 semaines ci on veut visiter aussi le Botswana.
Si vous avez des idées/propositions, on pourra es partager.
bonne soirée.
Gino.
Ginoldl
Popea , Gino,
Merci pour vos réponses...
D'après les diverses infos des blogs et autres un séjour de 3 semaines juste en Namibie serait sympa. Je dois dire que j'avais proposé à un ami avec qui j'avais déjà voyagé de louer un 4x4 avec tente sur le toit, mais il ne peut pas se libérer. C'est le genre de voyage que j'apprécie ! En liberté pour flâner, aller voir au bout de la route ce qu'il y a... Certes moins complet et moins documenté souvent que les circuits organisés mais tellement plus enthousiasmants !!!
Un petit groupe mixte me convient. C'est à priori plus sympa.
Et conduire dans ces paysages un grand plaisir😉
Je pars aux US pour un mois, mais à mon retour, je peux reprendre contact avec vous.
Une rencontre préalable pour se connaître et...si on se convient (!!!) on met sur pied un circuit ?!
A suivre donc et à bientôt 🤗
Bonsoir Lyane,
C'est vrais que l'idéale ce serait de parti à 4 et louer 2 4X4 avec tente sur le toit. C'est le plus intéressant et le plus vivant; mais il faut d'abord voir le coût et ensuite le confort.
Pour moi ce n'est pas un problème.
En principe, je dois aussi partir du 03 mars jusqu'au 28 avril, pour la Chine, Thaïlande et Sumatra.
Tout est remis en cause avec ce virus; à voir.
Bonne soirée.
Gino
Ginoldl
Bonjour! C'était juste une possibilité, effectivement, il faut voir les avantages, inconvénients...et prix.
Il semble que l'Asie soit compliquée en ce moment, mais peut-être pourras -tu partir tout de même!
A bientôt
Lyane
Bonjour Poppea, Gino, Lyane. Je suis Belge, je m’appelle Christine et j’ai 65 ans. Je me suis intéressée à votre échange de messages car comme vous je n’ai pas pu convaincre mon amie pour la Namibie. Après maintes recherches, hourra, je découvre Voyage forum et je m’inscris. Depuis que ma fille a pris son envol, je voyage seule et je ne suis pas fan du « tout organisé ». Alors, voilà, pourrais-je éventuellement me joindre à vous pour vivre cette nouvelle expérience ? Grandeur et nature, partage, aventure et bonne humeur 😀. Déjà merci pour votre réponse.
Christine.
Voici mon adresse mail : casamangue@gmail.com
Christine
Bonjour Christine,
Ravie de faire votre connaissance
Comme vous avez pu le lire nous sommes en pleine recherche
Il faut construire le circuit voir la durée, le mode d'hébergement, faire une simulation de ce que ça coutera etc etc
Je pense que Gino a l'habitude de concevoir ce genre de projet Lyanes aussi me semble t il
Pour ma part ce serait une première en totale autonomie
J'ai fais plusieurs voyages en indépendant avec mes amis Nous organisions les trajets et ensuite confions le projet a une agence parfois locale ou du genre Marco Vasco qui traitait ensuite nos demandes
Je suis allée de cette façons en Birmanie, Chine, Laos, Cambodge, Inde Pérou , Bali et tout c'est toujours très bien passé
Je ne suis pas spécialement fan des TO
Donc bien venue
A très vite dans les discutions avec Lyanes et Gino
Françoise
Bonsoir Christine,
Pour ce qui me concerne, je serais ravi de t'avoir avec nous.
Il faudrait, peut-être, réfléchir et envisager de louer 1 seul 4X4, pour être tous ensemble, et dormir dans des lodges. Bagages + tentes, ça risque de faire trop!?
J'ai déjà récupéré pas mal d'infos sur la Namibie et des circuits intéressant.
Il faudrait qu'on puisse re retrouver quelque part, en mai, pour dialoguer et apporter nos idées.
Comme précisé, je vais partir du 03/03 au 28/04. Je vais éviter la Chine et faire uniquement la Thaïlande et Sumatra.
mon adresse est: gino80078@outlook.fr
Bon WE
Gino
Ginoldl
Bonsoir Françoise. Super et merci. Alors faisons-leur confiance pour établir le projet. Personnellement, j’ai souvent construit mes circuits moi-même, même si cela demande beaucoup de temps et d’énergie. Je suis cependant partie quelques fois avec des TO (Thaïlande, Turquie, Pérou, Chine..). Avec un groupe d’amis à Cuba. Accompagnée de ma fille et par nos propres moyens nous avons entre autres sillonné l’Andalousie, le Monténégro, la Syrie (avec chauffeur), le Guatemala (avec chauffeur) la Crète. Seule, je suis notamment allée au Portugal, au Maroc (taxi collectif, - pas toujours facile quand il n’y a que des hommes et la barrière de la langue - et le train), dernièrement au Liban ...
La période suggérée pour la Namibie me convient et qu’importe la durée.
Je suis vraiment emballée par ce projet qui, j’espère, pourra voir le jour, en fonction des différents paramètres comme tu l’as souligné.
Encore merci et belle soirée.
Christine
Bonjour Gino. Désolée pour ma réponse un chouïa tardive, suite à un appel téléphonique quand j’allais le faire. Comme toi, j’ai trouvé pas mal de renseignements et il y a quelques sites intéressants que j’ai épinglés dans ma rubrique voyage sur Pinterest. Les lire, c’est déjà voyager un peu. Sur l’un d’eux, il est mentionné qu’il est préférable de réserver les logements longtemps à l’avance. Nous pourrons en discuter ensemble, comme tu le suggères. Il y a effectivement pas mal de choses auxquelles il faut penser.
Nous pourrions également communiquer via l’application Zoom et chacun peut intervenir à son gré. Ce n’est pas mal, je l’ai déjà fait.
Je viens d’entendre aux infos que les belges rapatriés de Chine arriveront ce soir. Tu fais bien de modifier ta destination, c’est plus prudent.
Belle journée pluvieuse (du moins en Belgique).
Je viens d’entendre aux infos que les belges rapatriés de Chine arriveront ce soir. Tu fais bien de modifier ta destination, c’est plus prudent.
Belle journée pluvieuse (du moins en Belgique).
Christine
Bonjour Christine,
Je crois que nous sommes sur "la même longueur d'ondes".
Passez, même avec la pluie, un agréable dimanche.
Je me trouve à Antibes et il fait beau et ensoleillé.
Gino
Ginoldl
Bonjour Gino Lyane et Christine
Tout ça commence à prendre une tournure sympathique
Pour le moment nous sommes 4 et semble t il sur la meme longueur d'ondes 😉
Effectivement un seul véhicule serait plus convivial
La Namibie a du succès et je me demande si ce n'est pas un peu juste pour se mettre a chercher en Mai des hébergements ainsi que des billets d'avions a prix raisonnables !!!
Qu'en pensez vous ?????
J'ai jeté un coup d'œil sur les compagnies et Lufthansa à me semble t il le temps de vol le plus rapide ( entre 12 et 15 h ) avec une seule escale
Utiliser la messagerie de groupe zoom serais effectivement pratique
Coté météo beau soleil dans le Bordelais et température agréable 😎
Bonne fin de journée a tous
Françoise
Bonsoir la belle équipe. Il me semble aussi plus raisonnable de fixer la durée, les dates de départ/retour au plus tôt et envisager l’achat des billets d’avion. J’ai également consulté les prix sur le site Misterfly.com et l’option Lufthansa est à retenir. J’ai lu plusieurs carnets de voyage et tous recommandent de s’y prendre à l’avance (voire même un an !). Je vous laisse réfléchir et vous souhaite une belle soirée.
Christine
Bonsoir tout le monde,
En ce qui concerne ZOOM, il y a plusieurs applications; laquelle utilisez-vous?
Personnellement je pense que mai serait suffisant pour réserver les vols pour octobre.
Il s'agit de billets "non remboursable", donc il faut être sûre des dates.
Si on veut avoir des prix intéressant, il faudrait partir entre le 29/09 et le 01/10; retour 3 semaines après.
Bonne soirée à vous.
Gino
Ginoldl
Bonsoir le groupe.
Celui que j’utilise est Zoom.us
La version est gratuite mais la durée des visioconférences de groupe est limitée à 40 minutes.
Il y a aussi Skype éventuellement.
Les billets d’avion ne risquent-ils pas d’augmenter si nous attendons le mois de mai ?
Des lors que nous sommes tous d’accord sur la durée et la date de départ rien n’empêche de les acheter plus tôt.
Qu’en pensez-vous ?
Il y a aussi Skype éventuellement.
Les billets d’avion ne risquent-ils pas d’augmenter si nous attendons le mois de mai ?
Des lors que nous sommes tous d’accord sur la durée et la date de départ rien n’empêche de les acheter plus tôt.
Qu’en pensez-vous ?
Christine
Bonjour à vous tous !
Je viens d'arriver en Floride, je vous suis donc de loin ...
Mes impressions 🙂
Si on fait le pari que nous allons à priori nous entendre sur la durée, les conditions et le circuit...on peut tenter le coup de fixer les dates et rechercher les vols
Pour la part, départ fin septembre ou tout tout début octobre me conviendrait, j'ai une contrainte drastique pour les vacances scolaires, mon petit fils est étudiant et seul en France ( Reims), ses parents sont en Polynésie.
Perso je n'ai jamais réservé des vols pour plusieurs personnes séparément...
Savez-vous faire ?
Je rentre le 28 février
A votre avis tout début mars est-ce trop tard ?
D'ici avec le décalage horaire et les contraintes du wifi des logements, ce n'est pas très simple...
Mais je suis à votre écoute et disposée à suivre vos avis😃
Bonne journée et à bientôt !
Lyane
Bonjour le groupe,
Je viens de m'inscrire et télécharger l'app zoom.us, par contre je ne l'ai jamais utilisé auparavant.
En ce qui concerne les billets d'avion, il faudrait faire déjà une recherche des vols. Une fois choisi les dates et les vols, A/R, il faut se mettre tous devant le PC et, en même temps, chacun fait sa réservation avec sa carte de crédit. Cela aussi pour être couvert par l'assurance VISA, Master Card, etc. On peut donc faire les réservations des vols n'importe quand du moment que nous avons accès à internet.
Pour le reste: location voiture, lodge... On pourra voir ensuite. Il y aura un qui paie et se fait rembourser par les autres.
Passez une agréable soirée.
Gino
Ginoldl
Bonjour tout le monde
Je pense qu'avant de prendre les billets il faudrait avoir une idée précise sur le coût du voyage ( logement, location de la voiture , entrée dans les réserves ) auquel s'ajoutera le billet d'avion
Durée du séjour , circuit envisagé et aussi le type d'hébergement
Je pose beaucoup de questions mais je pense que c'est nécessaire avant de s'engager
Qu'en dites vous?
Bonne soirée à tous
Françoise
Bonsoir.
Pour utiliser Zoom il y a un centre d’aide.
https://support.zoom.us/hc/fr/articles/201362413-Comment-programmer-des-réunions
https://support.zoom.us/hc/fr/articles/201362183-Comment-inviter-d-autres-personnes-à-rejoindre-une-réunion-
J’ai été invitée mais je n’ai jamais programmé de réunion. Nous devrions nous en sortir.
Pour utiliser Zoom il y a un centre d’aide.
https://support.zoom.us/hc/fr/articles/201362413-Comment-programmer-des-réunions
https://support.zoom.us/hc/fr/articles/201362183-Comment-inviter-d-autres-personnes-à-rejoindre-une-réunion-
J’ai été invitée mais je n’ai jamais programmé de réunion. Nous devrions nous en sortir.
Christine
Bonsoir à tous.
Voici un site sur lequel on trouve quelques infos intéressantes
https://www.tripinwild.fr/voyage-namibie-carnet-pratique/
La personne mentionne un coup de cœur. j’ai fait une simulation sur Booking (il n’y a pas que Booking bien sûr) - Desert Quiver Camp à Sesriem - et il n’y a déjà plus de disponibilités en octobre.
Je crois que nous allons devoir prendre des décisions au plus tôt.
Voici un site sur lequel on trouve quelques infos intéressantes
https://www.tripinwild.fr/voyage-namibie-carnet-pratique/
La personne mentionne un coup de cœur. j’ai fait une simulation sur Booking (il n’y a pas que Booking bien sûr) - Desert Quiver Camp à Sesriem - et il n’y a déjà plus de disponibilités en octobre.
Je crois que nous allons devoir prendre des décisions au plus tôt.
Christine
Bonjour!
Pourquoi ne pas utiliser par exemple Meltour qui organiserait notre voyage selon nos conditions en particulier de logement. On nous donne des voitures de location, un riad trip et nos nuits en lodges don't réservées si on le souhaite.
Avec notre petit groupe nous aurions un prix intéressant et tout de même la liberté .
Meltour ou autre bien sûr....
Il y a aussi Tourmaline qui a de bons avis, Madiran tours, entre autres
Si nous avions pu nous rencontrer assez tôt et plusieurs jours, mettre sur pied le projet était envisageable, mais dans les conditions actuelles, cela me semble bien compliqué...
Quant aux vols, comme nous ne partons pas de Paris, le billet est souvent plus intéressant en prenant un vol au départ de province, Toulouse dans mon cas, que de prendre un Paris Namibie. En effet ensuite le vol Toulouse Paris avec les bagages revient très cher...
Je pense qu'il en est de même pour Lyon, Bordeaux ou Bruxelles, non ?
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Bonne journée à vous 🙂
Hello tout le monde
Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi C'est le seul moyen pour ne pas galérer et c'est ce que je pensais proposer aujourd'hui
Gino est le seul à avoir parlé de 3 semaines Moi je pencherais pour 2 mais tt dépend du circuit
Voulons nous aller jusqu'à Epupa ou a Fish river canyon ou les 2
La région des chutes d'Epupa est paraît il superbe
Les billets sont moins chers en septembre qu'octobre !
Il faut vite réagir si on veut avoir la chance de réaliser ce futur formidable voyage
À très vite votre ressenti
Françoise
Coucou.
Idéalement, vu le prix du billet d’avion et la durée du vol, trois semaines ne seraient pas trop pour la Namibie, destination lointaine. Ne pas perdre de vue que les distances sont longues. Donc, sur la durée, je rejoins l’avis de Gino.
Voici un extrait copié sur le Forum du Routard concernant Epupa
Nous sommes restées 30 jours en Namibie en juin dernier et sommes allées au sud et au nord. Je peux vous livrer mes impressions qui sont évidemment toutes personnelles!! Contrairement à certains avis du forum, nous avons adoré le sud, les paysages du fish-river, la route le long du fleuve Orange...cela fait certe beaucoup de km mais pour aller à Epupa, cela fait beaucoup de km aussi d'une piste traversée par des lits de rivières tous les 500 m en moyenne, sans difficulté technique mais vous avez quand même intérêt à ralentir si vous ne voulez pas vous retrouver dans le décor!!! Et les chutes ne valent pas le détour, le fleuve Kunene est certe sympa mais encore une fois ce n'est que mon avis, il y a mieux à faire! D'ailleurs, si vous y allez, il faut rester 2 nuits pour vous promener le long du fleuve ou faire une acivité avec le lodge (visite village himba par exemple). Y aller et repartir le lendemain n'a aucun sens. Donc, à refaire, on garderait ces 2 nuits pour les mettre ailleurs! Date de l'expérience : 04/06/2019
Pour moi, le prix du billet est moins cher au départ de Paris avec Lufthansa. L’arrivée est jour +1. Et il faut en tenir compte. Nous devons nous mettre d’accord sur la durée du séjour.
A+ vous lire 🙂
Voici un extrait copié sur le Forum du Routard concernant Epupa
Nous sommes restées 30 jours en Namibie en juin dernier et sommes allées au sud et au nord. Je peux vous livrer mes impressions qui sont évidemment toutes personnelles!! Contrairement à certains avis du forum, nous avons adoré le sud, les paysages du fish-river, la route le long du fleuve Orange...cela fait certe beaucoup de km mais pour aller à Epupa, cela fait beaucoup de km aussi d'une piste traversée par des lits de rivières tous les 500 m en moyenne, sans difficulté technique mais vous avez quand même intérêt à ralentir si vous ne voulez pas vous retrouver dans le décor!!! Et les chutes ne valent pas le détour, le fleuve Kunene est certe sympa mais encore une fois ce n'est que mon avis, il y a mieux à faire! D'ailleurs, si vous y allez, il faut rester 2 nuits pour vous promener le long du fleuve ou faire une acivité avec le lodge (visite village himba par exemple). Y aller et repartir le lendemain n'a aucun sens. Donc, à refaire, on garderait ces 2 nuits pour les mettre ailleurs! Date de l'expérience : 04/06/2019
Pour moi, le prix du billet est moins cher au départ de Paris avec Lufthansa. L’arrivée est jour +1. Et il faut en tenir compte. Nous devons nous mettre d’accord sur la durée du séjour.
A+ vous lire 🙂
Christine
Bonsoir à tous,
Si vous me permettez, je pense que nous devrions exprimer nos souhaits clairement et fixer les priorités. Pour aller plus vite, j'énonce déjà mes "desiderata" quand c'est possible.
1) Date de départ et durée du séjour. L'idéale ce serait 3 semaines; quitte à faire un petit détour pour le Botswana, si possible.
2) organiser le voyage nous même ou partir avec une agence? Nous devrions pouvoir organiser le circuit nous même. Avoir aussi la liberté de décider de rester 1 ou 2 jours de plus dans un endroit qui nous plait.
3) réserver les billets d'avion A/R.
4) Une fois les vols réservés, fixer une date pour nous rencontrer. Avant notre rencontre, chacun doit envoyer aux autres les points qu'elle souhaite aborder.
5) C'est à ce moment que nous allons établir un circuit (modulable) et réserver seulement quelques nuits d'avances. Le reste on le fera sur place au fur et à mesure de nos envies. Personnellement, j'ai toujours trouvé où dormir. Sinon voir ci-dessous.
6) Réserver un 4X4 et, en même temps, louer 2 tentes qu'on utilisera en cas de besoin. On arrivera bien à leurs faire une petite place, quitte à les attacher sur le toit.
Mon souhait c'est de fixer quelque chose de concret et prendre les décisions rapidement.
Passez une agréable soirée et rêvez un peu de ce voyage.
Bises.
Gino
Ginoldl
Bonsoir à tous.
Je réponds au QCM.
1) ok
2) nous-mêmes
3) ok
4) ça dépend où
5) ok
6) je n’aime pas trop les petites bébêtes
Il y a déjà pas mal de temps que j’en rêve 🙂
Belle soirée/nuit
Bises
Il y a déjà pas mal de temps que j’en rêve 🙂
Belle soirée/nuit
Bises
Christine
Bonjour Tout le monde,
Je suis aussi intéressée par un voyage en Namibie de 3 semaines pour la période septembre/octobre mais j'aimerais finir par le Boswana pour voir les chutes Victoria.
Je cherche aussi des compagnons de voyage (max 3, d'ailleurs il y a une section pour ça) car je ne voyage pas en organisé mais plutôt avec mon sac à dos. Mes intérêts sont la rencontre des gens et le trek et voir la nature. J'ai déjà visité plusieurs réserves (Kenya et Tanzanie) et ce n'est pas ma priorité.
Je vois que vous êtes tous bien informé. Je vais suivre votre actualité et voir comment je m'organise. Bonne préparation ! pat
Je suis aussi intéressée par un voyage en Namibie de 3 semaines pour la période septembre/octobre mais j'aimerais finir par le Boswana pour voir les chutes Victoria.
Je cherche aussi des compagnons de voyage (max 3, d'ailleurs il y a une section pour ça) car je ne voyage pas en organisé mais plutôt avec mon sac à dos. Mes intérêts sont la rencontre des gens et le trek et voir la nature. J'ai déjà visité plusieurs réserves (Kenya et Tanzanie) et ce n'est pas ma priorité.
Je vois que vous êtes tous bien informé. Je vais suivre votre actualité et voir comment je m'organise. Bonne préparation ! pat
Bonsoir Gino. Suis tristounette car, excepté moi hier, aucune autre réaction, suite à tes propositions.
Mais je reste confiante.
Belle soirée
Belle soirée
Christine
Bonsoir Christine,
J'ai simplement essayé d'aller... direct au but, sinon on part dans tous les sens.
Bonne soirée.
Gino
gino80078@outlook.fr
Ginoldl
Oui, j’ai bien compris. Ce serait une première pour moi de partager une telle expérience avec des co-voyageurs et je pense m’être un peu trop emballée. En général, j’apprécie que tout s’enchaîne quand un projet peut prendre forme (déformation professionnelle ?) 🙂🙂🙂
Christine
Bonjour !
Dit avec le sourire ...
Je profite des Everglades et des keys et ...Il n'y avait pas d'urgence à vous répondre...
J'ai répondu à un post où il était question de circuit organisé par des agences en Namibie.
Situation simple.
Mes remarques ne sont pas retenues, pas plus que celles de la personne qui a initié la conversation.
Vos avis ont été différents et nous ne sommes plus sur le même projet.
Je vois qu'une troisième personne est dans votre état d'esprit, c'est très bien...
je quitte ce groupe sans scrupules donc !
je vous souhaite une belle aventure
Lyane
Bonjour tout le monde
Je suis a l'origine de toutes ces discutions sur un voyage en Namibie
et j'en suis ravie
Mais voila ce sera sans moi
Je souhaite néanmoins bonne route a ceux a qui cela convient
Françoise
Ps: je viens de voir que Lyane a aussi déclaré forfait !!!!
Y aurait il un manque de compréhension et d'écoute ????
Bonsoir Lyane et Françoise,
Personnellement je regret votre abandon.
C'est vrai que je n'ai pas regardé toutes vos propositions en détail car je suis bien occupé actuellement, et comme ça partait dans tous les sens, j'ai simplement essayé de se recentrer sur des points précis.
C'est regrettable.
Bonne continuation à vous. je vais regarder avec les autres si on peut continuer ou pas.
Agréable soirée à toutes.
Gino
Ginoldl
Bonsoir Pat,
Comme tu a pu le lire, 2 personnes viennent de déclarer forfait. Donc, si t'es encore intéressé, tu peux nous proposer tes idées et désidérata.
Bien à toi.
Gino
Ginoldl
Il m'a semblé avoir affaire à des coucous qui s'installent dans état d' âme et j'en ai déduis que je n'aurai pas davantage le droit à la parole en voyage !
Sans regret ni excuse...
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
Bonjour,
A lire attentivement par tous ceux qui vont partir au Kenya ou en Tanzanie, dans les mois à venir .
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
En nov./ déc. 2022, j’avais fait un safari dans la région et nous avions souffert des températures extrêmes engendrées par le phénomène “El Nino” sur l’océan Indien à cette époque . En plus des T. extrêmes, il peut y avoir des pluies diluviennes , avec crues etc ... qui ont engendré des catastrophes avec victimes .
A prendre en compte (éventuellement ).
Salutations . ...
A lire attentivement par tous ceux qui vont partir au Kenya ou en Tanzanie, dans les mois à venir .
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
En nov./ déc. 2022, j’avais fait un safari dans la région et nous avions souffert des températures extrêmes engendrées par le phénomène “El Nino” sur l’océan Indien à cette époque . En plus des T. extrêmes, il peut y avoir des pluies diluviennes , avec crues etc ... qui ont engendré des catastrophes avec victimes .
A prendre en compte (éventuellement ).
Salutations . ...
Nous revenons de dix jours en Tanzanie. Nous avons eu la chance d’être guidés par Gishaman. Toujours de bonne humeur, bon conducteur et très bon guide. Grâce à lui nous avons eu la chance de voir non seulement les big5 en une journée mais aussi plein d’autres animaux. Il travaille pour l’agence locale Blit Safaris qui a assuré un très bon suivi de notre voyage. À conseiller !
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Dream of standing on the roof of Africa at 5,895 m? I’m looking for 4 people to complete our group for the Kilimanjaro ascent in Tanzania. 📅 September 17–28, 2026 👥 Small group 🥾 Suitable for experienced hikers 🏔️ Goal: Uhuru Peak – 5,895 m 🇹🇿 Local team specialized in Kilimanjaro 🎒 Porters during the ascent 🍽️ Meals and trek organization included 🧗♂️ Trip led by a French state-certified Mountain Leader
September is a great time to attempt the Kilimanjaro ascent. 🔥 Only 4 spots left. The departure is confirmed. No need to be a mountaineer—just be in good shape, love hiking, and want to experience an incredible adventure. 👋 If you’re alone, no problem: you’ll join our small group directly. 📧 Send me a message for the full program, price, and all the details.
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉