Des cyclocampeurs sur la route du Sahara marocain et Mauritanie?
by BOB72
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
On est deux cyclos-campeurs sur la route du Sahara occidental (ou marocain) se dirigeant vers la Mauritanie et Sénégal.
Y-a t'il d'autre cyclos sur cette route actuellement ?
C'est juste par curiosité. Depuis le début de notre parcours, nous avons rencontré un couple de Belges en route autour du monde pour 2 an avec qui nous avons cheminé au Maroc 12 j et un cyclo béninois à Agadir. Il faisait la route seul et à réalisé la performance de traverser entièrement le désert du Mali au Maroc en passant par la Mauritanie, soit 2 200 km avec vent favorable du tout ! Un exploit -c'est déjà par trop facile avec vent favorable - , mais là !!
Pour remettre les pendules à l'heure par rap. port au matraquage médiatique de début octobre et sur ce qui s'est passé en Algérie, je précise que nous circulons en toute sécurité au Maroc et nous sommes pas les seuls. Nous croisons de nombreux touristes étrangers ou français qui circulent aussi sereinement que nous.
Je suis surpris du nombre d'annulation de séjour au Maroc. J'ai le sentiment qu'une psychose paranoïaque s'est installée chez nous, bien loin de la réalité que nous vivons ici. Es-ton vraiment en sécurité en France avec tout ça ?
Devrait-on vivre reclus à cause de quelques barbares félés du ciboulot ?
Bruno
Bravo pour la performance et merci pour vos constatations ...En Mai j'ai croisé sur cette route un cycliste qui disait aller sur Tombouctou 😎
Hannah
Hannah
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Attendez de dépasser Boujdour et vous verrez , il y a peu être des touristes aujourd'hui, mais il y a une quinzaine nous n'avons vu personne, même très peu de camions locaux sur cette route hormi des militaires.
marcel
Salut Pat ,
Je me suis trompée sur la date, horreur , c'était en Février 2014 😎😎😎 il ne fait pas bon vieillir ....
Mais de toute façon il ne me semblait pas bien équipé pour faire ce trajet , qui l'a vu ? Allemand, un chapeau de cuir sur la tête, croisé vers El Ouatia mi Février .
J'espère qu'il est arrivé mais ça m'a paru un peu farfelu .
Toutes mes excuses pour cette erreur de date
Je me suis trompée sur la date, horreur , c'était en Février 2014 😎😎😎 il ne fait pas bon vieillir ....
Mais de toute façon il ne me semblait pas bien équipé pour faire ce trajet , qui l'a vu ? Allemand, un chapeau de cuir sur la tête, croisé vers El Ouatia mi Février .
J'espère qu'il est arrivé mais ça m'a paru un peu farfelu .
Toutes mes excuses pour cette erreur de date
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Bonjour,
Ok, mais ça ne réponds pas à ma question de savoir s'il y a des cyclistes sur cette route actuellement. C'est évident que plus on descend vers le sud du Sahara marocain, il y a de moins en moins de véhicule. C'est un peu normal, non ?
C'était déjà comme ça en 2012 lorsque je suis passé par là.
slt, si tu viens à thionck essyl cette année, la piste n'a pas beaucoup changé !! @+ patrick
😎 😄 😎
Salut bruno,
Je suis actuellement en Mauritanie et j'en ai croisé oui...Je ne donnerais pas plus d'info sur qui ils sont ni ou et quel jour je les ai vu sur un forum public mais tu n'es pas seul...
Les politiques et médias diabolisent la région depuis 2008...Comme pour l'Iran....
Tu peux me croire que c'est largement plus risqué de pédaler en banlieu parisienne ou marseillaise qu'en Mauritanie...
Les températures commencent à baisser en plus..Bonne route
Les politiques et médias diabolisent la région depuis 2008...Comme pour l'Iran....
Tu peux me croire que c'est largement plus risqué de pédaler en banlieu parisienne ou marseillaise qu'en Mauritanie...
Les températures commencent à baisser en plus..Bonne route
Bonjour
lorsque je suis descendu de chez moi à Bamako en 2002 j'ai rencontré seulement un cyclo voyageur dans tout mon parcours.
Il ne faut pas être parano mais ne pas chercher le feu non plus.
Bonne route
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Salam Hanna,
La date ne change rien........... Février ou mai 2014, les seuls Français possiblement présents à Tombouctou ne pouvaient être que militaires ! Et encore.................... En octobre 2014, idem. Ensuite, traverser la Mauritanie en vélo n'est pas très compliqué, pas plus que le Sahara Marocain, sous réserve d'être en bonne forme physique. Le trajet Bir Gandouz/Nouakchott est goudronné et assez fréquenté. Pour le chapeau de cuir du Teuton, je préfère ne rien dire............... @+
La date ne change rien........... Février ou mai 2014, les seuls Français possiblement présents à Tombouctou ne pouvaient être que militaires ! Et encore.................... En octobre 2014, idem. Ensuite, traverser la Mauritanie en vélo n'est pas très compliqué, pas plus que le Sahara Marocain, sous réserve d'être en bonne forme physique. Le trajet Bir Gandouz/Nouakchott est goudronné et assez fréquenté. Pour le chapeau de cuir du Teuton, je préfère ne rien dire............... @+
Excuse moi , mais je ne comprends pas ta réponse .
En effet il m'a semblé bizarre en Février que quelqu'un aille en vélo à Tombouctou , au regard de ce que signale toi même .
Quand au chapeau ????? bon, l'humour belge je n'ai jamais bien compris, mais là ?
Quelques explications , merci.
Hannah
En effet il m'a semblé bizarre en Février que quelqu'un aille en vélo à Tombouctou , au regard de ce que signale toi même .
Quand au chapeau ????? bon, l'humour belge je n'ai jamais bien compris, mais là ?
Quelques explications , merci.
Hannah
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Ce que je veux dire, c'est que depuis janvier 2013 (début de l'intervention de l'armée Française au Mali) et jusqu'à ce jour, je ne pense pas qu'un Français ou un autre occidental puisse être allé à Tombouctou, sans y laisser sa peau.
Seuls les militaires peuvent y séjournent très irrégulièrement.
Donc, que ton Teuton t'affirme vouloir y aller en février ou mai 2014, peut importe la date.
C'est la preuve d'un manque flagrant de préparation, voire d'une énorme méconnaissance du contexte géopolitique de la région.
Aucun touriste ne fréquente le nord et le nord-est du Mali depuis janvier 2013, ni à Taoudéni, ni à Goundam, ni à Gao, ni à Kidal, ni à Tombouctou, car c'est une zone de guerre, d'ailleurs hier encore un soldat Français y a trouvé la mort !
Pour le chapeau en cuir ?
Il me semblait qu'un couvre-chef plus léger, genre chéche, était plus adapté aux fortes chaleurs qu'il s'apprêtait à affronter, qu'il parte en février ou en mai 😛
Bises.
Ouf , j'ai compris .Donc on est sur la même longueur d'onde . Le dit teuton m'a bien dit aller à Tombouctou, et j'ai objecté que ça me paraissait impossible vu la situation .....
D'autre part , il était vraiment habillé comme un mec qui se balade dans le coin , pas le style a avoir préparé un minimum le voyage , l'histoire du chapeau étant significative, plus un vieux cyclo, mais peut être a t'il réussi 😉
Dans la série cycliste , en Aragon , j'ai rencontré un cycliste Français qui randonnait depuis 11 ans avec un très vieux vélo et ...un âne . En fait il faisait la route depuis très longtemps, les balkans , la Grèce etc .. Seul problème le passage du bourricot aux frontières , papiers de santé . 😎
Il y a donc de tout sur les routes, même des inconscients qui pensent aller à Tombouctou en pleine guerre .
Salut , et vive les innocents le monde leur appartiens 😎
Hannah
D'autre part , il était vraiment habillé comme un mec qui se balade dans le coin , pas le style a avoir préparé un minimum le voyage , l'histoire du chapeau étant significative, plus un vieux cyclo, mais peut être a t'il réussi 😉
Dans la série cycliste , en Aragon , j'ai rencontré un cycliste Français qui randonnait depuis 11 ans avec un très vieux vélo et ...un âne . En fait il faisait la route depuis très longtemps, les balkans , la Grèce etc .. Seul problème le passage du bourricot aux frontières , papiers de santé . 😎
Il y a donc de tout sur les routes, même des inconscients qui pensent aller à Tombouctou en pleine guerre .
Salut , et vive les innocents le monde leur appartiens 😎
Hannah
Que se vuelva la tortilla
en effet , il ne faut quand même pas tenter le diable 😎
Que se vuelva la tortilla
bonjour tous les deux,
je ne suis pas concerné par le trajet à vélo au sahara occidental entre autre mais je partage votre avis sur la "frilosité" française dans les pays arabes. j'y ai vécu, j'y suis très souvent, j'y ai de nombreux amis locaux, et jamais je n'ai ressenti la moindre inquiétude ce qui n'est pas le cas en France. pour ma part je pense que l'on pas moins en sécurité en mauritanie ou au sahara occidental que dans certains coins en france. mais non je m'égare. en france non plus ce n'est pas dangereux, ce qui est dangereux c'est la surinformation qui fait penser à l'insécurité partout. profitez bien, il y a des coins merveilleux vers BOUJDOUR DAKHLA et ensuite en Mauritanie ou au Sénégal. le monde est merveilleux on l'oublie trop souvent pour ne retenir que les dérisoires jobards qui sévissent dans quelques coins. bonne continuation à tous les deux et si je vous croise en fin décembre je vous saluerai avec plaisir jean claude
je ne suis pas concerné par le trajet à vélo au sahara occidental entre autre mais je partage votre avis sur la "frilosité" française dans les pays arabes. j'y ai vécu, j'y suis très souvent, j'y ai de nombreux amis locaux, et jamais je n'ai ressenti la moindre inquiétude ce qui n'est pas le cas en France. pour ma part je pense que l'on pas moins en sécurité en mauritanie ou au sahara occidental que dans certains coins en france. mais non je m'égare. en france non plus ce n'est pas dangereux, ce qui est dangereux c'est la surinformation qui fait penser à l'insécurité partout. profitez bien, il y a des coins merveilleux vers BOUJDOUR DAKHLA et ensuite en Mauritanie ou au Sénégal. le monde est merveilleux on l'oublie trop souvent pour ne retenir que les dérisoires jobards qui sévissent dans quelques coins. bonne continuation à tous les deux et si je vous croise en fin décembre je vous saluerai avec plaisir jean claude
jiceel
Bonjour,
Entièrement d'accord avec toi.
Au plaisir de se voir sur la route.
C'est bien possible car cà m'est arrivé hier à Bignona où quelqu'un nous accoste et nous demande si nous étions sur V.F.COM. On a dit oui mais avec les pseudos je ne voyais pas qui c'était. Aujourd'hui je reçois un message :"on s'est vu hier à Bignona".
En fait nous avions échangé sur VF ...et on s'est rencontré, c'est formidable !
Bruno
J'ai été trop rapide dans ma réponse, je n'avais pas vu qu tu es d'OUSSOUYE;
On y va demain matin et on crèche à l'auberge du routard chez Gouho.
Je suis sûr que tu connais. Si tu veux on peux boire une bière ensemble demain soir, pourquoi pas. On sera pas là la journée mais à partir de 19h certainement.
Bruno
salut les gars, j'en serais super content, sauf que je n'y suis pas encore cette année, hélas.
les difficultés administratives font que nous ne partons d'ici que le 11 donc pas avant la fin d'année à Oussouye.
si vous partez vers le cap vous verrez à oukout (premier village en sortant d'oussouye, après l'embranchement de majak, sur la gauche, notre maison en construction.
on se verra un peu plus tard si vous restez dans notre belle region jusqu'en fin d'année.
bravo d'être arrivés jusque là.
et bonne continuation.
je connais bien sûr votre gîte.
jean claude
jean claude
jiceel
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What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance






