"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
Djibouti?
by Misterbean
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
j'ai prévu de partir à djibouti voir des amis l'année prochaine. je voudrais savoir si quelqu'un a des infos sur ce pays. je vous remercie.
ju
"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
SALUT !!
J'y ai vécu 2ans (1966/67) houai, je sais ça ne rajeuni pas !! C'est réputé pour être le coin le plus chaud d'Afrique ou du monde !! Téritoire volcanique, où s'ouvre la grande faille Africaine !! Pays (tout petit) sous protectora Francais et maintenant Américains (depuis la guerre du golfe) Pays qui tourne sur une seule ville (Djibouti) et son port franc !! Géographie= c'est la "corne de l'Afrique", la fin de la mer rouge et le début de l'océan indien !! Population = se sont des Affars et des Issas (les 2 principales tribus) Activités = de la plage, de la plage et encore de la plage (pêche et plongée, magnifique) Et plein d'autre chose sur ça : http://www.djiboutiweb.net/ Le mieux est encore de passer par Googel en tapant : DJIBOUTI Cordialement d'un ancien bidasse de Djibouti
PAPY
J'y ai vécu 2ans (1966/67) houai, je sais ça ne rajeuni pas !! C'est réputé pour être le coin le plus chaud d'Afrique ou du monde !! Téritoire volcanique, où s'ouvre la grande faille Africaine !! Pays (tout petit) sous protectora Francais et maintenant Américains (depuis la guerre du golfe) Pays qui tourne sur une seule ville (Djibouti) et son port franc !! Géographie= c'est la "corne de l'Afrique", la fin de la mer rouge et le début de l'océan indien !! Population = se sont des Affars et des Issas (les 2 principales tribus) Activités = de la plage, de la plage et encore de la plage (pêche et plongée, magnifique) Et plein d'autre chose sur ça : http://www.djiboutiweb.net/ Le mieux est encore de passer par Googel en tapant : DJIBOUTI Cordialement d'un ancien bidasse de Djibouti
PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
c'est gentil de me répondre aussi vite. ce que tu me dis n'est pas super rassurant. mais je ne vais m'arrêter là et prendre d'autres infos avant de me faire une idée définitive.
encore merci
ju
"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
C'est un pays magnifique. J'y suis passé 3 fois ces 10 dernieres années. Ne pas hesitez à dire merde aux Bidasses Français 😠😕🏴☠️
Mon dernier sejour remonte à juin 2006...Hesites pas à poser des questions plus precises. Je te conseils d'y passé entre 3 et 5 jours et de partir sur des pays limitrophes : Yemen, Ethiopie, Erythrée ou + loin...
Bon voyage😉
Mon dernier sejour remonte à juin 2006...Hesites pas à poser des questions plus precises. Je te conseils d'y passé entre 3 et 5 jours et de partir sur des pays limitrophes : Yemen, Ethiopie, Erythrée ou + loin...
Bon voyage😉
Les bidasses français ne sont quand meme pas tous les mêmes et peuvent aussi être des gens sympas 😉.
Pour les infos il y a dejà un autre thème ouvert sur le forum et j'ai déjà répondu dessus.
A+
Séb
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
et bien j'avoue que je ne connais pas du tout. si tu pouvais me dire ce que tu sais de l'histoire du pays, le climat, les gens, les endroits à voir...
merci
ju
"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
Tout d'abord bonjour! j'ais une simple ( pas si simple que ca en fait) question a vous posez! ma petite amie dont je suis éperdument amoureux, par suivre ces parents à djibouti en septembre, après mettre resillié a la laissé partir! je prefaire tentez l'aventure et partir y vivre avec elle pendant 1 ans!
j'aimerais savoir si je en cour pas à la catastrophe, en laissan mon travail. la question est la: est ce que je peux vivre a djibouti avec seulement mon chomage (avoisinant les 800€/mois) je n'ai aucune idée du cout de la vie à djibouti. et j'aimerais etre fixé! sachez juste que je ne marèterais pas a cela et que la suivré par tout les moyens. merci de me repondre au plus vite.
amicalement mathieu
zou639@hotmail.com ==> pour me repondre directement
je vous remercie d'avance! j'attend votre reponce avec impatience
amicalement mathieu
zou639@hotmail.com ==> pour me repondre directement
je vous remercie d'avance! j'attend votre reponce avec impatience
hOUAIII !!
Je ne suis pas une agence matimoniale !! Tes histoires d'amour (ou de cul) ce n'est pas mon probléme ni celui de tous les Forum'istes !! Pose donc ta question dans le genre = comment vivre à Djibouti pour un an avec un chômage de 800€/mois !!!!!!! et comment faire pour y rester 1 an ?? visa ? ou travail ?? insécuritée ?? chaleur ?? etc.. Bon : autre chose (je t'ai un p'ti peu bousculé ?? ce n'est que pour ton bien ) Je suis parti "Bidasse" à Djibouti en 1966 (ça fait bien trop longtemps) et tout y a certainement changés !! Les femmes de Djibouti (à l'époque ) été "cousus" (lévres du sexe coussus) pour garantir la virginitée !! je ne te dit pas de faire comme ça à celle qui te fait courrir au bout de la terre !! mais c'est pour te donner une idée du coin où tu vas !! pas de végétation (ou presque) c'est la corne de l'Afrique et le coin le plus chaud du monde !! une canette de biére vide, au soleil fond en une semaine !! c'est du vécu !! si tu n'as auqu'une activitées a faire ni travail !! reste que la plongée sous marines pour les bidasses de France ou des USA qui sont sur place !! C'est un trés bon coin pour les ruptures amoureuses, des bidasses, qui pense que l'élue de son coeur va l'attendre, jusqu'a son retour ?? j'en ai trop vu dans le malheur pour une lettre de rupture !! (ha !! les salopes) j'en ai bien sur fait partie moi aussi !! c'est la vie !! Ne lui court pas aprés !! c'est le meilleur moyen de la faire fuir plus vite !! Mais ce n'est pas à 61 ans que je vais donner des leçons à un gamin amoureux ?? Je perd les pédalles ? je me sort !! P'être que quelqu'un aura l'obligence de te répondre beaucoup mieu que ça !!
PAPY (qui vient de perdre 40ans en quelques mn)
Je ne suis pas une agence matimoniale !! Tes histoires d'amour (ou de cul) ce n'est pas mon probléme ni celui de tous les Forum'istes !! Pose donc ta question dans le genre = comment vivre à Djibouti pour un an avec un chômage de 800€/mois !!!!!!! et comment faire pour y rester 1 an ?? visa ? ou travail ?? insécuritée ?? chaleur ?? etc.. Bon : autre chose (je t'ai un p'ti peu bousculé ?? ce n'est que pour ton bien ) Je suis parti "Bidasse" à Djibouti en 1966 (ça fait bien trop longtemps) et tout y a certainement changés !! Les femmes de Djibouti (à l'époque ) été "cousus" (lévres du sexe coussus) pour garantir la virginitée !! je ne te dit pas de faire comme ça à celle qui te fait courrir au bout de la terre !! mais c'est pour te donner une idée du coin où tu vas !! pas de végétation (ou presque) c'est la corne de l'Afrique et le coin le plus chaud du monde !! une canette de biére vide, au soleil fond en une semaine !! c'est du vécu !! si tu n'as auqu'une activitées a faire ni travail !! reste que la plongée sous marines pour les bidasses de France ou des USA qui sont sur place !! C'est un trés bon coin pour les ruptures amoureuses, des bidasses, qui pense que l'élue de son coeur va l'attendre, jusqu'a son retour ?? j'en ai trop vu dans le malheur pour une lettre de rupture !! (ha !! les salopes) j'en ai bien sur fait partie moi aussi !! c'est la vie !! Ne lui court pas aprés !! c'est le meilleur moyen de la faire fuir plus vite !! Mais ce n'est pas à 61 ans que je vais donner des leçons à un gamin amoureux ?? Je perd les pédalles ? je me sort !! P'être que quelqu'un aura l'obligence de te répondre beaucoup mieu que ça !!
PAPY (qui vient de perdre 40ans en quelques mn)
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
je ne t'ai pas demander ton avis sur mes histoire d'amour... la seule choses que je veux savoir c'est si c'est possible, j'ais mes diplome en mecanique qui pouron me servir laba... si je fé cet action c'est en parti pour elle! je ne te le cache pas, mais aprés se que tu ma di tu na fait que me donné encore plus envie de la suivre, tu est plus agée que moi, donc je prend pour argent comptant se que tu ma di, mais on ma dit un jour "CARPE DIEM", alors si personne ne me repond franchement, je ferai comme toute personne qui aime l'aventure =========> go vers mon objectif! je me casserais la geule ou pas, je n'en sais rien, personne ne le sais, mais au moins je pourais dire plus tard que j'ais vécu un formidable voyage dans un autre pays...
j'aurais préféré avoir ta reponce sur ce ké la vie a djibouti pour savoir a quoi mattendre! pas de me dire quoi faire, mai si cela depasse tes capacité je nen demande pas plus
Nom:
Sébastien Sexe:
Homme Âge:
33 ans Lieu de résidence:
corne d'afrique, Djibouti
Date et heure locales:
16 juillet 2007, 15:53
Occupation(s):
Passion du voyage, types de voyages préférés, voyages déjà effectués et ceux projetés:
Tout ce qui peut concerner la découverte, la culture et les traditions africaines.
Un gout tres prononcé pour le 4x4 et la mécanique, j'adore les voyages et la rusticité (bivouac et hors piste).
Fermement décidé à venir m'installer pour vivre à Djibouti. Site internet:Dernière visite du site: 8 juillet 2007 à 13:45 Nombre de messages publics: 35 (Afficher les messages de djiboutien) Membre depuis: 16 septembre 2006, 21:29 A voir si tu peu entrer en contact vec lui !! il est sur place !! Pour avoir du travail ?? je te dit NON !! La mécanique, en Afrique, ce sont des virtuoses avec une main d'oeuvre presque gratuite !! tellement le travail n'est pas payé !! Les Militaires ont leurs Mécanos et pour le reste de la population ? main d'oeuvre pratiquement gratuite ! Faire une visu sur le prix du voyage // sur la durrée du séjour (pour un civil) // et le prix de la vie sur place pour s'héberger et se nourir // ce pays est un tas de cailloux, il n'y a rien a y faire ni a trouver, ni a creuser !! si ce n'est sa position géographique pour raison militaire (fin de la mer Rouge et début de l'Océan Indien ), c'est toute la richesse de ce "PAYS" !! Je sais que je parle à un mur !! T'as pris ta décision ?? Je te donne raison de faire comme ça !! abandonner un bon boulot pour partir à l'aventure derriere une nana, avec un p'ti espoir de la retrouver ou de la perdre !! Houaii ! t'es sur la bonne pente pour te casser la gueule tout seul !! Du travail en France = ??? c'est une putain de tombola !! et tu vas quitter un bon boulot pour courrir dans le plus pouri des pays d'Afrique ?? houaii ! t'es un vrai dur !! y a pas mieux que toi !! fait toi un costume de héros (comme l'homme araignée) c'est juste pour ne pas te confondre avec les gens que l'on dit: mormaux !! QUE je parle à un mur (déjà dit) ou que je pisse dans un violon ?? ça sera le même résultat ?? Donc ne demande pas de conseil si tu ne veux pas entendre autre chose que ce que tu veux entendre !! A tchao et bonsoir Ne pas me répondre me ferait le plus grand bien !! Au royaume des sourds les aveugles s ..........
PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
Avec 800 € par mois à Djibouti, si tu essaye de vivre à la " Française" tu vas pas tenir longtemps !! En tout cas, comment tu pourras toucher le chomage en France, si tu vis en Afrique et ne fais rien pour trouver du job en France ?? Il est évident que si tu pars là-bas, l'idéal c'est que tu n'es pas de loyer à payer, ni de bagnolles, ni rien : Et tu gardes tes 800 € pour boire tes bières.
Bon voyage et racontes nous comment ça se termine : On le sait tous, mais cela va nous faire marrer !! Et les parents de Madame ça va ?? Et pourquoi c'est pas elle qui reste avec toi ??
En tout cas n'essaye pas de donner des cours de français : Enfin je parle pour l'écris car même à la Legion, les gars se débrouillent !!! 😉😉
Bon voyage et racontes nous comment ça se termine : On le sait tous, mais cela va nous faire marrer !! Et les parents de Madame ça va ?? Et pourquoi c'est pas elle qui reste avec toi ??
En tout cas n'essaye pas de donner des cours de français : Enfin je parle pour l'écris car même à la Legion, les gars se débrouillent !!! 😉😉
pardon pour mon écrit, je tien tout de meme à précisé que je suis né en espagne, et que je suis en france depuis seulement 6 ans... (ce n'est pas uen escuse en soit)
est ce que la vie labas est vraiment si dure? pour tout vous dire je tombe de haut! je ne suis peut etre pas un "as" en orthographe! mais cela ne fait pas plus ni moins de moi un etre humain! avec des sentiments! c'est donc normal d'avoir envie de partir... Mais si d'après vous c'est peine perdu, seriez vous prêts à laisser partir votre bien aimé sans bouger?
bonjour papy toyota ! tu as raison sur certains points mais pas sur tous
notament : la république de djibouti n'est pas sous protectorat américain !
elle n'a jamais été non plus sous "protectorat francais", c'était tout simplement
un territoire francais d'outre mer (le TFAI) juste avant l'indépendance en 1977.
bien avant ca, c'était la cote francaise des somalis
tu veux parler des afars et des issas ok : les issas sont bien une tribu de l'ethnie
somali, par contre les afars ne sont pas une tribu mais bien une ethnie !!!
ne pas confondre, donc si on parle des ehtnies on parle des afars et des somali ok
😛
notament : la république de djibouti n'est pas sous protectorat américain !
elle n'a jamais été non plus sous "protectorat francais", c'était tout simplement
un territoire francais d'outre mer (le TFAI) juste avant l'indépendance en 1977.
bien avant ca, c'était la cote francaise des somalis
tu veux parler des afars et des issas ok : les issas sont bien une tribu de l'ethnie
somali, par contre les afars ne sont pas une tribu mais bien une ethnie !!!
ne pas confondre, donc si on parle des ehtnies on parle des afars et des somali ok
😛
bonjour mr pneu, bon ton projet est réalisable mais sous certaines conditions
comme dis rodo tu peux vivre avec 800 euros/mois si tu vis pas à la francaise !
dans ce cas ya pas de problèmes, en plus vous pouvez peut etre habiter dans la
famille de ta copine, parce que si tu souhaite louer quelque chose de correct tu vas
claquer ton pactole !
d'ailleurs je suis pas sur que tu puisses palper ton chomdu pendant un an, pendant
quelques mois ca doit passer mais plus ca m'étonnerais
et puis sinon ya moyen de trouver du boulot, l'armée francaise recrute du
personnel civil régulièrement, et dans plusieurs spécialités, que ce soit
administratif ou technique, genre mécanicien ! bien sur il s'agit d'un recrutement
local et le salaire va avec ! assez maigre, mais ca perment de bouffer à l'africaine
pas à la francaise ! addresse toi à la "direction du commissariat" à coté de la base
aérienne francaise
voila, donc tout est possible, mais ya autre chose, j'espère que les beautés somali
ou abysinnes te feront pas tourner la tête !!!! 😏
comme dis rodo tu peux vivre avec 800 euros/mois si tu vis pas à la francaise !
dans ce cas ya pas de problèmes, en plus vous pouvez peut etre habiter dans la
famille de ta copine, parce que si tu souhaite louer quelque chose de correct tu vas
claquer ton pactole !
d'ailleurs je suis pas sur que tu puisses palper ton chomdu pendant un an, pendant
quelques mois ca doit passer mais plus ca m'étonnerais
et puis sinon ya moyen de trouver du boulot, l'armée francaise recrute du
personnel civil régulièrement, et dans plusieurs spécialités, que ce soit
administratif ou technique, genre mécanicien ! bien sur il s'agit d'un recrutement
local et le salaire va avec ! assez maigre, mais ca perment de bouffer à l'africaine
pas à la francaise ! addresse toi à la "direction du commissariat" à coté de la base
aérienne francaise
voila, donc tout est possible, mais ya autre chose, j'espère que les beautés somali
ou abysinnes te feront pas tourner la tête !!!! 😏
je ne compte pas partir dans un pays africain et vivre à la francaise! je ne vis pas à l'espanole en france alors pourquoi ne m'adapterais-je pas?? pour se qui est de l'argent mon chomage peut etre acheminé par mendat, et je me doute bien que il ne me sera pas versé 1 ans... pour le reste je pense avoir sufisament d'argent de coté pour subsité à mes besoin en cas de coup dur.. je me doute bien que je vais revenir a vide^^
l'idéal serai que ca famille méberge le 1er mois que j'ai le temp de me retourné et de voir venir! je suis pret a travaillé ! et en sué! je sui jeune, je le sais, c'est peut etre un andicap! mais c'est aussi se qui fait mon plus gros atou! ( comme di papy! je suis jeune, sour et fou!) je suis pret a tout! ma raison me ratrapera peut etre un jour! mais je compte bien vivre ma vie a pleine dent et avec celle que j'aime!
ca aprait tout beaux tout rose, mais ne vous détrompé pas, je sais bien que la vie labas est pluto rude...
merci de vos conseil!😉
ps: les yeux de l'amour menpeche de regardé ailleur que en direction de ceux de ma bien aimé😇
l'idéal serai que ca famille méberge le 1er mois que j'ai le temp de me retourné et de voir venir! je suis pret a travaillé ! et en sué! je sui jeune, je le sais, c'est peut etre un andicap! mais c'est aussi se qui fait mon plus gros atou! ( comme di papy! je suis jeune, sour et fou!) je suis pret a tout! ma raison me ratrapera peut etre un jour! mais je compte bien vivre ma vie a pleine dent et avec celle que j'aime!
ca aprait tout beaux tout rose, mais ne vous détrompé pas, je sais bien que la vie labas est pluto rude...
merci de vos conseil!😉
ps: les yeux de l'amour menpeche de regardé ailleur que en direction de ceux de ma bien aimé😇
SALUT !!
J'étais militaire à Djibouti 2ans et présent (à Djibouti) pour la guerre des 6 jours en Israël !! (66/67) J'ai débarqué en "côte Francaise des Somalies " et j'ai quitté le coin (TFIA) aprés le changement de nom et l'attentat manqué sur notre président à Djibouti ( Gal. De Gaulle) Soulévement de la population/ arrestation/ mis en couvre-feux de la ville /instalation de grillage et barbelés pour contôler la ville (avec champ de mines)/ expulstion des sans papiers étrangers = Somalie - Ethiopie-Yemen-Grec-etc../ des victimes des deux côtés / M'enfin la guerre quoi ..!! Nous avons tous "touché" la veste de treilli camouflée (uniforme de maintient de l'ordre) avant le débarquement des renforts de Gendarmes Mobiles qui arrivaient de France (ils sont tombés commes des mouches à cause de la chaleur) Ce ne sont pas des racontards !! j'y étais ! (j'étais basé sur l'ilot du héron avec passage à marrée basse, et nous avons construit la 1ere digue avec des chars de combats (modéle Anglais "Centurion" réformés) qui ont servi de fondation pour cette route-digue !! Et tout ça sous protectorat Français ou sous l'appellation que tu voudras !! car a cette époque il n'y avait que des bidasses Français et une p'tite poignée de locau dans l'armée Française ! Et je pouvais prendre ma Kro, sur la terrasse du "palmier en zing " qui a été plastiqué depuis !! Tout à certainement bien changé !! Les Affars et Issas : je les connais bien !! et le pays aussi !! Cordialement (aprés un p'ti tour de mémoire de 40 ans en arrière)
PAPY
J'étais militaire à Djibouti 2ans et présent (à Djibouti) pour la guerre des 6 jours en Israël !! (66/67) J'ai débarqué en "côte Francaise des Somalies " et j'ai quitté le coin (TFIA) aprés le changement de nom et l'attentat manqué sur notre président à Djibouti ( Gal. De Gaulle) Soulévement de la population/ arrestation/ mis en couvre-feux de la ville /instalation de grillage et barbelés pour contôler la ville (avec champ de mines)/ expulstion des sans papiers étrangers = Somalie - Ethiopie-Yemen-Grec-etc../ des victimes des deux côtés / M'enfin la guerre quoi ..!! Nous avons tous "touché" la veste de treilli camouflée (uniforme de maintient de l'ordre) avant le débarquement des renforts de Gendarmes Mobiles qui arrivaient de France (ils sont tombés commes des mouches à cause de la chaleur) Ce ne sont pas des racontards !! j'y étais ! (j'étais basé sur l'ilot du héron avec passage à marrée basse, et nous avons construit la 1ere digue avec des chars de combats (modéle Anglais "Centurion" réformés) qui ont servi de fondation pour cette route-digue !! Et tout ça sous protectorat Français ou sous l'appellation que tu voudras !! car a cette époque il n'y avait que des bidasses Français et une p'tite poignée de locau dans l'armée Française ! Et je pouvais prendre ma Kro, sur la terrasse du "palmier en zing " qui a été plastiqué depuis !! Tout à certainement bien changé !! Les Affars et Issas : je les connais bien !! et le pays aussi !! Cordialement (aprés un p'ti tour de mémoire de 40 ans en arrière)
PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
bien sur je suis sur que tu pourras t'adapter et c'est pour ca que je t'ai répondu
c bien que tu comptes pas uniquement sur tes alloc chomages, et avec une petite
réserve en plus c parfait !
de plus tu as un atout, tu débarques pas tous seul, et ta copine et sa famille te
trouveront un logment correct pour 20000 francs djibouti environ, ceux qui te
disent que la vie est hors de prix sont des militaires francais qui ont jamais vécu
la bas à la "djiboutienne"
et détrompes toi la vie la bas est pas si rude que ca, bien que bcoup de gens
galérent, mais je sais qu'il y a un détachement de la légion étrangère qui recrute
des spécialistes mécaniciens pour entretenir le matériel, je parle bien de civils,
et tu seras payé environ 100000 francs djibouti, c pas énorme mais si tu vis
humblement sans flamber, ca passe j'en suis sur ! ca te laisse 80000 francs pour
vivre une fois le loyer payé
si tu comptes resté environ un an essaye d'obtenir ton visa long séjour avant de
partir, c'est un peu fastidieux de prolonger son visa la bas
@+ pour d'autres conseils
c bien que tu comptes pas uniquement sur tes alloc chomages, et avec une petite
réserve en plus c parfait !
de plus tu as un atout, tu débarques pas tous seul, et ta copine et sa famille te
trouveront un logment correct pour 20000 francs djibouti environ, ceux qui te
disent que la vie est hors de prix sont des militaires francais qui ont jamais vécu
la bas à la "djiboutienne"
et détrompes toi la vie la bas est pas si rude que ca, bien que bcoup de gens
galérent, mais je sais qu'il y a un détachement de la légion étrangère qui recrute
des spécialistes mécaniciens pour entretenir le matériel, je parle bien de civils,
et tu seras payé environ 100000 francs djibouti, c pas énorme mais si tu vis
humblement sans flamber, ca passe j'en suis sur ! ca te laisse 80000 francs pour
vivre une fois le loyer payé
si tu comptes resté environ un an essaye d'obtenir ton visa long séjour avant de
partir, c'est un peu fastidieux de prolonger son visa la bas
@+ pour d'autres conseils
ok tu as pas bluffé, je vois que tu as bien connu le pays, c vrai que djibouti a pas
toujours été aussi "cool" que maintenant, et je l'ai connu qu'à partir de 1997 !
donc j'ai pas les memes "heures de vol" que toi papy !
je suis agréablement surpris par tous les détails que tu donnes....l'ilot du héron je l'ai toujours connu sous le nom de presqu'ile du héron ! et j'ignorai que la route de la digue a été construite sur....des chars de type centurions !!! anglais en plus ! est ce que ces chars arrivaient du somaliland voisin ?
oui tous à bien changé, c vrai que les américains sont maintenant aussi nombreux que les francais, les temps changents.....
salut !!
Hé oui pas tout à fait à la même époque !! Le reste des "Centurions" à été mis à l'eau avec les grands canons de marine de défense de l'ilot !! depuis le bord de l'ilot ( 6 à 8 m de profondeur) certainement encore intact et visible pour un plongeur en apnée, au point Nord de l'ilot !! En service il y avait le M4 et M6 Américain (deux moteur étoiles comme sur les avions) deux jolis moteurs d'avions, mais retour de manoeuvre avec un ou les deux en pannes !! (vieux modéles des années 40/50) L ' AMX 13 = aussi un moteur fait pour un avion, mais jugé trop lourd pour un avion se retrouve dans le ventre d'un blindé !! mécanique solide !! Et l'EBR de chez Panhard = superbe mécanique = 12 cylindres / 6 carbu (double corps) moteur à plat de 30 cm de haut qui prend tout le planchet du char (tout en alu )!! belle mécanique !! ce char à servi (sans la tourelle) de suport et transport du cerceuil du Gal de Gaulle (en France) Comme tu dois t'en douter, j'étais mécanos 3eme échelon blindés à Djibouti !! Il y à une fosse marine au large de Djibouti, et 99% du matériel militaitre réformés, été jetté par dessus bord à la mer (généralement par une barge de débarquement) Cordialement (dans le camboui )
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Hé oui pas tout à fait à la même époque !! Le reste des "Centurions" à été mis à l'eau avec les grands canons de marine de défense de l'ilot !! depuis le bord de l'ilot ( 6 à 8 m de profondeur) certainement encore intact et visible pour un plongeur en apnée, au point Nord de l'ilot !! En service il y avait le M4 et M6 Américain (deux moteur étoiles comme sur les avions) deux jolis moteurs d'avions, mais retour de manoeuvre avec un ou les deux en pannes !! (vieux modéles des années 40/50) L ' AMX 13 = aussi un moteur fait pour un avion, mais jugé trop lourd pour un avion se retrouve dans le ventre d'un blindé !! mécanique solide !! Et l'EBR de chez Panhard = superbe mécanique = 12 cylindres / 6 carbu (double corps) moteur à plat de 30 cm de haut qui prend tout le planchet du char (tout en alu )!! belle mécanique !! ce char à servi (sans la tourelle) de suport et transport du cerceuil du Gal de Gaulle (en France) Comme tu dois t'en douter, j'étais mécanos 3eme échelon blindés à Djibouti !! Il y à une fosse marine au large de Djibouti, et 99% du matériel militaitre réformés, été jetté par dessus bord à la mer (généralement par une barge de débarquement) Cordialement (dans le camboui )
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le hic! c'est que je ne part pas avec ma copine, mais je la rejoin labas!
Donc je vais en profité de l'avoir sur place pour que elle me trouve un logement dans les 20.000 fr djiboutien comme tu dis et que elle se renseingne auprès de la légion! Pour ne pas que je parte "la fleur au fusil"!
Enfin de compte je ne partirais surement que pour une durée de 6 mois, j'aimerais bien en discuté avec toi en privé (msn ou mail), pour me briffé un peut plus sur les coutume la facon de vivre etc.. et que je t'esplique mon budget!
cordialement Mr Pneu!! ^^ ===> Mathieu
Donc je vais en profité de l'avoir sur place pour que elle me trouve un logement dans les 20.000 fr djiboutien comme tu dis et que elle se renseingne auprès de la légion! Pour ne pas que je parte "la fleur au fusil"!
Enfin de compte je ne partirais surement que pour une durée de 6 mois, j'aimerais bien en discuté avec toi en privé (msn ou mail), pour me briffé un peut plus sur les coutume la facon de vivre etc.. et que je t'esplique mon budget!
cordialement Mr Pneu!! ^^ ===> Mathieu
bonjour les romantiques! vous êtes la délicatesse née les gars! bonne chance à toi matthieu quand-même. je veux pas te donner de faux espoirs mais rien de tel que de suivre son intuition et si tu te palntes et ben tu reviens et t'auras pas de regrets.
ensuite petite précision je suis une fille malgré mon pseudo donc je me fous des gonzesses là-bas bande de machos et j'ai un amoureux fabuleux donc je vais pas vous demander de me trouver des gigolos non plus. en général ça me fait marrer de voir les réactions des gens qui croyaient que j'étais un mec et surtout le changement de ton qui s'en suit.
enfin je vais voir des potes (dont un bidasse) avec mon amoureux et un ou deux autres couples. donc on sera logés et nourris sur place. on va rester genre entre 2 semaines et un mois je sais pas encore. et je voudrais savoir le contexte du pays, s'il y a des endroits à ne pas manquer, des spécialités etc... simple vu que je vais y rester longtemps.
bon j'ai été un peu dure mais vous êtes des vrais mecs virils alors c'est cool non?
ju
"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
"ne demande pas le chemin à celui qui le connaît, tu risques de ne pas t'égarer." Daniel Shabetai Milo
salut j ai passer 4mois a djiboutie en 1989 sur un bateau de la marine francaise, c est un drole de pays mais je me souviens d une chose qui ma marquer c est quand on a quitter le port pour revenir en france l odeur de ce pay m envahiser mes narine une odeur unique melange d epice et je ne sais quoi encore
enfin bref si tu veut qu on en discute n hesite pas a me contacter sur ma boite mail ;rphilippe38@aol.com
a bientot j espere philippe
SLT,
J'ai vecu a Djibouti durant 1 an 1/2.
Je pense que lorsque l'on a l'occasion de partir dans ce type de pays. Il ne faut surtout pas hesiter!!!
C'est le genre d'occasion qui ne se presente pas souvent. Tout le monde n'a pas la chance de se rendre dans dans ce type de pays. Ce qui en fait un voyage original.
Mais attention, il faut que tu saches que le climat n'est pas facile. Tres chaud et humide. La meilleur periode pour se rendre est l'hiver. Il fait moins chaud.
Djibouti est un pays tres pauvre, ou, il ne faut pas t'attendre a faire du shopping et la pauvreté de la population peut en choquer plus d'un.
Mais, c'est un pays magnifique, des paysages splendides entre montagnes et mer. Si tu te rends chez des amis militaires et que tu aimes la plongée, tu pourras leurs demander de t'emmener sur les iles Maskali et la... tu te regaleras!!!
Tu as egalement, l'originalité du lac assal. Un lac de sel situé a 4m en dessous du niveau de mer.
Je te garantie qu' a Djibouti tu vois des choses que tu n'as pas la chance de voir ailleur!!!
Si tu le desires, nous pouvons continuer cette discution en privee. A la limite je te ferais parvenir des photos de la bas.
A+
J'ai vecu a Djibouti durant 1 an 1/2.
Je pense que lorsque l'on a l'occasion de partir dans ce type de pays. Il ne faut surtout pas hesiter!!!
C'est le genre d'occasion qui ne se presente pas souvent. Tout le monde n'a pas la chance de se rendre dans dans ce type de pays. Ce qui en fait un voyage original.
Mais attention, il faut que tu saches que le climat n'est pas facile. Tres chaud et humide. La meilleur periode pour se rendre est l'hiver. Il fait moins chaud.
Djibouti est un pays tres pauvre, ou, il ne faut pas t'attendre a faire du shopping et la pauvreté de la population peut en choquer plus d'un.
Mais, c'est un pays magnifique, des paysages splendides entre montagnes et mer. Si tu te rends chez des amis militaires et que tu aimes la plongée, tu pourras leurs demander de t'emmener sur les iles Maskali et la... tu te regaleras!!!
Tu as egalement, l'originalité du lac assal. Un lac de sel situé a 4m en dessous du niveau de mer.
Je te garantie qu' a Djibouti tu vois des choses que tu n'as pas la chance de voir ailleur!!!
Si tu le desires, nous pouvons continuer cette discution en privee. A la limite je te ferais parvenir des photos de la bas.
A+
Karla
Bonjour, je vois que vous connaissez parfaitement Djibouti, je dois m'y rendre via le train d'addis abeba(pour prendre un avion pour Paris), et mon probleme est que je n'arrive pas à savoir si je peux vraiment me procurer un visa a l'entré du pays ou, faut-il que je me le procure à Addis avant??quelle serait son prix dans les 2 cas?Merci d'avance pour vos réponses.
a + 😉
Salut MrPneu,
J'ai passé 1 an à Djibouti entre 1999 et 2000 et j'ai adoré.
Si tu as besoin d'infos n'hésite pas à me contacter à cette adresse: vydol34@gmail.com
J'ai aussi pas mal de photos si ca t'interesse...
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Cedric.
HA l'amour !!!!!
bonjour, j'habite à djibouti avec mon mari et nos deux enfants.... en faite ta reponce a ta question depend beaucoup du fait que tu sois logé ou pas si tu es logé et donc que tu n'as qu'une simple participation financiere tes 800 euros devrait suffir car ici hors mit l'electricite, l'eau et le logement tout le reste est raisonnable biensur à condition de l'être aussi !le salaire moyen ici ( le smic en france) est de 30 000 fdj soit environ 120 euros ! pour 8H de travail 6 jours par semaine . Pour le boulot tout depend aussi de ton metier suivant ta specialite il n'est pas impossible que tu trouve quelque chose ici ! mais attention si tu veux continuer a toucher ton chomage..... ! renseignes-toi bien car pour venir tu peux facilement obtenir un visa de 3 mois auprés de l'ambassade mais j'ai peur que pour 1 an tu sois concideré comme resident à l'etranger donc chomage ? il faut bien savoir que ici nous sommes à l'étranger et non en territoire outre-mer!
si je peux encore t'aider, n'hesites pas
SALUT !! l'ancien ...
Non je n'ai rien de concret sur cette époque .. (en photo) j'ai tout dans la tête .. On doit certainement se connaitre (un peu) Je ne sais même pas si j'ai une photo chez moi ?? c'était plûtot pour envoyer à la famille (les photos) Mon p'ti parcour militaire = 6 mois à Fréjus/ 6 mois à Metz (65) et deux ans à Djibouti (66/67)
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Non je n'ai rien de concret sur cette époque .. (en photo) j'ai tout dans la tête .. On doit certainement se connaitre (un peu) Je ne sais même pas si j'ai une photo chez moi ?? c'était plûtot pour envoyer à la famille (les photos) Mon p'ti parcour militaire = 6 mois à Fréjus/ 6 mois à Metz (65) et deux ans à Djibouti (66/67)
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Cordialement de PAPY
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Bonjour à tous!
Un an que je languis de l'Afrique du Sud. Notre premier voyage en Août 2025 nous a émerveillés et , chose rare, a fait l'unanimité dans notre petite famille! Touchés en plein coeur, dés notre retour à la maison nous ne parlions que d'y retourner. 😄
Je profite pour dire merci à tous ceux qui m'ont donnés des conseils sur l'itinéraire de ce 1er voyage (boucle Johannesbourg, Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, Ste Lucie, Durban, Drakensberg)! Grace à vous notre voyage s'est déroulé comme dans un rêve!
Depuis j'arrête pas de lire des articles, les discussions sur voyage forum, pour rester encore un peu la tête en Afrique du Sud!
Du coup, ça y est, on a craqué et on vient de prendre nos billet pour janvier 2027 (du 3 au 26 ) avec comme projet de relier Cape Town à Johannesbourg en road trip en 3 semaines environ.
J'ai une ébauche d'itinéraire qui me semble chouette compte tenu de ce que j'ai lu sur les divers forum mais il y a encore des points incertains et c'est là que j'aurais besoin de conseils.
3/01 Arrivée Johannesbourg 23h45
4/01 Vol pour Cape Town , loc voiture. Visite l'aprem
5,6,7/01 Cape Town pour visiter les grands classiques dans le coin (un conseil pour chercher le logement: quel quartier, une adresse?)
8/01 Nuit d'étape avant Oudtshoorn mais où??? (indispensable ou le trajet CT Oudtshoorn se fait bien? Dans ce cas je gagne une journée sur Outshoorn. Je vois plus de 5h de route sur google map.....)
9,10/01 Oudtshoorn (ou 3 nuits ce serait mieux pour bien profiter du coin???)
11,12/01 Knysna, Plettensberg bay (pour avoir le temps de randonner, si vous avez des plans rando je prends!)
13,14/01 Tsitsikamma (toujours pour avoir le temps de randonner - qui connais le must des randos dans le coin?-Mais peut être les 4 nuits dans le coin Knysna Tsistsikamma c'est trop, je me rends pas trop compte)
16,17/01 Addo Eléphant (j'hésite entre 3 nuits à Addo ou 3 nuits à Moutnain Zebra. Vu les carnets, particulièrement celui de Michel sur MZ, j'ai calé 3 nuits à MZ😄....)
18,19,20/01 Moutain Zebra NP
21/01 Cambedoo NP (parce que ça a l'air tellement beau!)
22/01 nuit d'étape (Où?) avant de terminer le voyage soit par 2 ou 3 nuits au Golden Gate NP ou par le Lesotho qui m'attire mais je ne sais pas si c'est faisable en 3 jours pour être le 26 janvier à Johannesbourg en fin de journée.
Voilà pour mon idée de voyage....
J'attends avec impatience vos conseils, idées, remarques....
Tellement hâte d'y être à nouveau!
Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025







