Enfants voyageant aux États-Unis et question sur passeports
by Corinne3783
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Mes enfants vont partir aux EU, ils ont la double nationalite mais n'ont qu'un passeport américain. Cela va t-il poser un problème lors de leur en France. Je suis Francaise, divorcée d'un Américain et mes enfants vont voyager seuls. Je suis tres inquiète, merci de votre aide !
Bonjour,
Mes enfants vont partir aux EU, ils ont la double nationalite mais n'ont qu'un passeport américain. Cela va t-il poser un problème lors de leur en France. Je suis Francaise, divorcée d'un Américain et mes enfants vont voyager seuls. Je suis tres inquiète, merci de votre aide !
Bonjour,
Le plus simple serait de faire un passeport Français. A ce moment là, ils utiliseraient leur passeport Américain pour entrer aux US à l'aller... et le Français pour le retour. S'ils sont trop court en temps, voyager avec une carte d'identité Française pour le retour.
Bonjour,
Le plus simple serait de faire un passeport Français. A ce moment là, ils utiliseraient leur passeport Américain pour entrer aux US à l'aller... et le Français pour le retour. S'ils sont trop court en temps, voyager avec une carte d'identité Française pour le retour.
Tes enfants pourront rentrer en France car ils seront considérés comme des touristes américains (90 jours, pas encore d'ETIAS en vigueur, pas encore de système entrée/sortie UE).
J'ignore quels âges ont tes enfant mais il serait quand même important et plus simple pour le futur (démarches administratives, contrôles de police, etc.) de leur faire des papiers d'identité français non ?
J'ignore quels âges ont tes enfant mais il serait quand même important et plus simple pour le futur (démarches administratives, contrôles de police, etc.) de leur faire des papiers d'identité français non ?
Tes enfants pourront rentrer en France car ils seront considérés comme des touristes américains (90 jours, pas encore d'ETIAS en vigueur, pas encore de système entrée/sortie UE).
J'ignore quels âges ont tes enfant mais il serait quand même important et plus simple pour le futur (démarches administratives, contrôles de police, etc.) de leur faire des papiers d'identité français non ?
J'y ai pensé mais techniquement, ils vont rester plus de 90 jours. Donc ce n'est pas idéal, même si le pourcentage de chance qu'on les interroge est minime.
J'ignore quels âges ont tes enfant mais il serait quand même important et plus simple pour le futur (démarches administratives, contrôles de police, etc.) de leur faire des papiers d'identité français non ?
J'y ai pensé mais techniquement, ils vont rester plus de 90 jours. Donc ce n'est pas idéal, même si le pourcentage de chance qu'on les interroge est minime.
Il y aura effectivement le "souci" du billet retour.
La probabilité qu'un fonctionnaire de l'immigration s'attarde sur le cas de jeunes Américains est très faible, surtout si c'est à CDG (je ne sais pas pour Orly ou Nice).
S'ils ont une CNI française aucun souci pour passer le contrôle PAF.
On manque d'informations sur le message initial. "Mes enfants vont partir aux EU" ok mais c'est quand ? Si c'est pour dans les jours qui viennent alors c'est de toute manière trop tard pour faire un passeport ou une CNI.
On ignore aussi quels âges ont les enfants. Si ce sont de jeunes ados ils pourront surement se débrouiller. Si ce sont des minots en UM c'est plus compliqué.
Je pense à une chose. Si les enfants voyagent seuls en UM de 5 à 14 ans sur AF par exemple. Comment va se passer l'acceptation au niveau de la compagnie puis du passage à l'immigration ?
Bien penser à rester joignable le jour du retour surtout si @Corinne3783 est dans l'aéroport à attendre. Penser également à prendre le livret de famille au cas où.
S'ils ont une CNI française aucun souci pour passer le contrôle PAF.
On manque d'informations sur le message initial. "Mes enfants vont partir aux EU" ok mais c'est quand ? Si c'est pour dans les jours qui viennent alors c'est de toute manière trop tard pour faire un passeport ou une CNI.
On ignore aussi quels âges ont les enfants. Si ce sont de jeunes ados ils pourront surement se débrouiller. Si ce sont des minots en UM c'est plus compliqué.
Je pense à une chose. Si les enfants voyagent seuls en UM de 5 à 14 ans sur AF par exemple. Comment va se passer l'acceptation au niveau de la compagnie puis du passage à l'immigration ?
Bien penser à rester joignable le jour du retour surtout si @Corinne3783 est dans l'aéroport à attendre. Penser également à prendre le livret de famille au cas où.
Le voyage est la semaine prochaine, Air France m'avait dit que les passeports US etaient OK. Ce sont des UM de 10 et 12 ans. Cela ne fait pas longtemps que nous avons demenagé en France et puisqu'il n'y avait eu aucun problème de notre entrée definitive en France, je ne me suis pas inquiétée; A tort, je m'en rends compte. Nous n'avons pas encore fait de papiers français, à tort encore une fois et je vais m'en charger tres rapidement.
Que risque t-il de se passer à l'immigration ? Qui'ils gardent mes enfants ou leur refusent l'entrée en France?
Merci de votre temps
Je sais bien, malheureusement, ils n'ont que des passeports américains pour l'instant et le voyage est dans une semaine... merci d'avoir pris le temps de me répondre
10 et 12 ans. Peuvent-ils etre considérés comme touristes américains ? Les autorités ne vont elles pas voir que c'est un retour plutot qu'un aller?
Merci!
Je sais bien, malheureusement, ils n'ont que des passeports américains pour l'instant et le voyage est dans une semaine... merci d'avoir pris le temps de me répondre
Bonjour,
En 1 semaine, vous avez certainement le temps d'obtenir un passeport en procédure accéléré.
L'idéal serait demain d'aller à la préfecture pour demander un passeport d'urgence en expliquant votre situation. Il sera certainement refusé MAIS vous pourrez demander à ce que les services préfectoraux vous lance la procédure de passeport biométrique en urgence. Vous aurez ainsi un rdv le jour même auprès de votre mairie.
Au pire, s'ils ne les reçoivent pas à temps, bah tant pis ils partiront sans.
Il y a 99.99% de chance que tout se passe bien. La PAF n'est pas connue pour sa rigueur face à ce genre de situation... Ils auront un visa de 90 jours tamponné sur leur passeport Américain.
Pensez à donner à vos enfant votre numéro de téléphone afin que vous puissiez être appelé en cas de soucis.
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En 1 semaine, vous avez certainement le temps d'obtenir un passeport en procédure accéléré.
L'idéal serait demain d'aller à la préfecture pour demander un passeport d'urgence en expliquant votre situation. Il sera certainement refusé MAIS vous pourrez demander à ce que les services préfectoraux vous lance la procédure de passeport biométrique en urgence. Vous aurez ainsi un rdv le jour même auprès de votre mairie.
Au pire, s'ils ne les reçoivent pas à temps, bah tant pis ils partiront sans.
Il y a 99.99% de chance que tout se passe bien. La PAF n'est pas connue pour sa rigueur face à ce genre de situation... Ils auront un visa de 90 jours tamponné sur leur passeport Américain.
Pensez à donner à vos enfant votre numéro de téléphone afin que vous puissiez être appelé en cas de soucis.
De toute manière les enfants ne seront pas laissés seuls pour passer la PAF en UM non ?
Il y aura forcément quelqu'un d'AF pour les accompagner puisque les représentants légaux ne peuvent pas être présents en zone internationale je présume.
@Corinne3783 les gens de la PAF parlent l'anglais mais tes enfants parlent il le français correctement ? Cela ne prouve évidemment pas qu'ils sont Français mais ça peut aider.
Perso je ne pense pas qu'il y aura de souci. J'oubliais un truc, donne à tes enfants une copie du livret de famille au cas où.
Il y aura forcément quelqu'un d'AF pour les accompagner puisque les représentants légaux ne peuvent pas être présents en zone internationale je présume.
@Corinne3783 les gens de la PAF parlent l'anglais mais tes enfants parlent il le français correctement ? Cela ne prouve évidemment pas qu'ils sont Français mais ça peut aider.
Perso je ne pense pas qu'il y aura de souci. J'oubliais un truc, donne à tes enfants une copie du livret de famille au cas où.
Bonjour,
10 et 12 ans. Peuvent-ils etre considérés comme touristes américains ? Les autorités ne vont elles pas voir que c'est un retour plutot qu'un aller? Merci!
Officiellement vos enfants rejoignent leurs parent et voyagent avec leur passeport américain. Et au besoin, on appellera les parents ; mais ça n'arrivera pas.
Michel
10 et 12 ans. Peuvent-ils etre considérés comme touristes américains ? Les autorités ne vont elles pas voir que c'est un retour plutot qu'un aller? Merci!
Officiellement vos enfants rejoignent leurs parent et voyagent avec leur passeport américain. Et au besoin, on appellera les parents ; mais ça n'arrivera pas.
Michel
Le cas du jeune homme de 17 ans évoqué sur ce fil est un peu différent mais cela s'était bien passé au final.
Je réitère, la nationalité américaine n'est pas la plus suspecte pour une arrivée en France. Il est peu probable que les gens de la PAF se préoccupent de voir le billet retour vers les États Unis / ou de sortie de l'UE.
Je réitère, la nationalité américaine n'est pas la plus suspecte pour une arrivée en France. Il est peu probable que les gens de la PAF se préoccupent de voir le billet retour vers les États Unis / ou de sortie de l'UE.
Oui, ils seront accompagnés pendant tout le voyage avec quelqu’un d’AF. Ils ne peuvent pas être retenus ou renvoyés aux USA? et s’ils leur donnent un visa de 90 jours, cela ne posera pas de problème pour un futur voyage?
Oui, ils seront accompagnés pendant tout le voyage avec quelqu’un d’AF. Ils ne peuvent pas être retenus ou renvoyés aux USA? et s’ils leur donnent un visa de 90 jours, cela ne posera pas de problème pour un futur voyage?
- Avant de renvoyer des jeunes Français mineurs ils vont y réfléchir à deux fois 🙂. Ils n'ont pas le droit, tout simplement, de déporter un citoyen français.
Refuser l'entrée de mineurs de moins de 13 ans, qui disposent d'un titre de voyage valide, et de surcroît assurent être français, c'est un coup à finir à la circulation dans la Creuse. 😉
Ils parlent français vos enfants ?
Michel
- Avant de renvoyer des jeunes Français mineurs ils vont y réfléchir à deux fois 🙂. Ils n'ont pas le droit, tout simplement, de déporter un citoyen français.
Refuser l'entrée de mineurs de moins de 13 ans, qui disposent d'un titre de voyage valide, et de surcroît assurent être français, c'est un coup à finir à la circulation dans la Creuse. 😉
Ils parlent français vos enfants ?
Michel
Non car ce sont des citoyens Français.
En outre des mineurs et encore pire, des mineurs de 13 ans.
A ce titre ils sont ultra protégés par la législation.
Et en France on ne lance pas une procédure juste comme cela, encore moins à l'encontre d'Américains.
Tu seras dans l'aéroport en théorie non ? AF t’appellera immédiatement s'il y a le moindre problème.
Pour info il n'y a pas de visa de 90 jours car les Américains sont dispensés de visas pour le tourisme. Lorsqu'un Américain arrive en France / UE la PAF met un tampon à date sur son passeport. Lorsqu'il repart il en a un nouveau, en théorie car parfois la PAF oublie.
Ensuite il y a l'histoire des 90 jours sur 180 mais de toute manière tu vas leur faire des passeports et des cartes d'identité dès que possible maintenant que tu as compris que c'est utile !
Et l'ETIAS (l'équivalent européen de l'ESTA pour les États Unis) n'est pas encore en place.
Et en France on ne lance pas une procédure juste comme cela, encore moins à l'encontre d'Américains.
Tu seras dans l'aéroport en théorie non ? AF t’appellera immédiatement s'il y a le moindre problème.
Pour info il n'y a pas de visa de 90 jours car les Américains sont dispensés de visas pour le tourisme. Lorsqu'un Américain arrive en France / UE la PAF met un tampon à date sur son passeport. Lorsqu'il repart il en a un nouveau, en théorie car parfois la PAF oublie.
Ensuite il y a l'histoire des 90 jours sur 180 mais de toute manière tu vas leur faire des passeports et des cartes d'identité dès que possible maintenant que tu as compris que c'est utile !
Et l'ETIAS (l'équivalent européen de l'ESTA pour les États Unis) n'est pas encore en place.
Oui, ils parlent français !
Oui, je serai à l’aéroport. Mes parents devaient les récupérer mais vu les circonstances, j’irai moi même.
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Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊