Entrer au Kirghizistan depuis la Chine
by Barou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour tout le monde.
Je prevois de passer au Kirghistan depuis la Chine a la fin de l'ete prochain. Mon itineraire en Chine serait grosso modo d'entrer par le Vietnam, faire un petit detour par Shenzhen et Xi'an avant de rebrousser chemin vers le Tibet, suite a quoi je reviendrais sur Kashgar.
Par contre, aux dernieres nouvelles, je crois qu'il est impossible d'obtenir un visa pour le Kirghistan a la frontiere. Ma seule option serait de remonter a Urumqi et prendre un vol vers l'aeroport de Bishkek ou ils delivrent des visas, mais cette solution n'est pas terrible.
L'ambassade est a Pekin, ce qui n'est pas sur mon chemin.
Est-ce que quelqu'un saurait donc me renseigner sur la possibilite d'obtenir le Visa a Hong Kong. A quel tarif et sous quels delais, necessite de fournir une lettre d'invitation? Sinon, y a t'il espoir de voir un bureau de visas ouvrir a Kashgar dans les prochains mois (ou peut etre que cela a ete fait recemment)?
Par avance merci.
Mon Lonely Planet d'Asie Centrale acheté il y a deux mois écrit : "Le Central Asia Hotel à Ürümqi vous obtiendra votre visa pour 56/112$US en 3/5 jours". Mais le Lonely Planet de Chine ne donne pas les coordonnées de cet hôtel à Ürümqi. Vérifie l'information. Je n'y suis pas encore allée. J'y vais l'été prochain et dans l'autre sens.
Merci pour l'info.
Est-il precise qu'aucune lettre d'invitation ou de recommandation n'est requise pour l'obtention du visa?
Je continue à te donner des informations sans avoir encore fait ce voyage puisque personne d'autre a l'air de te répondre.
En y pensant mieux, je pense que l'hotel d'Ürümqi en question fait le visa au bureau des visas et passeports du Kazakhstan à Ürümqi :
adresse : Kunming Lu 31 téléphone 991-381 5796 mail : kazpass@mail.xj.cninfo.net
(coordonnées prises sur le Lonely Planet Asie Centrale, le Kazakhstan a aussi un consulat à Shanghai, aussi hors de ta route ?)
Si je pense que c'est le Kazakhstan qui donne le visa, c'est parce qu'en France et en Espagne (où j'habite), c'est le Kazakhstan qui représente le Kirghizistan et fait les visas. La seule différence, c'est que les ambassades et consulats du Kirghizistan (à Bruxelles ou Vienne) ne demandent pas de lettre d'invitation, mais quand on passe par un office du Kazakhstan, oui, ils demandent une lettre d'invitation ou plutôt le numéro d'enregistrement de cette lettre au ministère des Affaires Etrangères du Kirghizistan, ce qui veut dire plus de temps et plus d'argent. Il est possible que le Central Asia Hotel d'Ürümqi aient un contact au Kirghizistan qui s'occupe de ça, mais tu payeras bien sûr pour le service et cela prendra un peu plus de temps. En plus le bureau kazakh ne parle peut-être que chinois, kazakh et russe, donc si à l'hôtel ils parlent un peu d'anglais, ça peut aider. A ta place j'essayerais de connaître leurs coordonnées et de les contacter avant pour savoir combien de temps et d'argent ils veulent. J'ai essayé de chercher leur adresse sur le net et tout ce que j'ai trouvé c'est un lien qui ne marche plus sur un blog de voyageur qui écrivait que l'hotel était près du consulat kazakh, ce qui confirme ce que j'avais deviné auparavant. J'ai trouvé aussi une agence de voyage à Urumqi qui travaille avec cet hotel : www.silkroute.cn. Si tu contactes directement une agence kirghize (nombreuses adresses sur VF), ils demanderont aussi de l'argent je suppose, ou d'acheter chez eux des réservations d'hôtels, de transport ou d'excursions. A voir ...
Bon, pour terminer, voici les infos de action-visas.com qui est un bureau de Paris qui s'occupe de tous visas contre rémunération, bien sûr : Période de validité du visa obtenu et durée du séjour possible : L'arrivée et la sortie doivent s'effectuer dans l'intervalle des dates d'entrée et de sortie demandées et mentionnées sur le visa. Délai normal d’obtention : 3 à 5 jours ouvrés Prix pour un visa d’un mois simple entrée : 35 € (+ leurs frais de 40 € mais cela ne te concerne pas)
Documents nécessaires : 1- Un Formulaire officiel de l'ambassade du Kazakhstan (représente le Kirghizistan en France) 2- Une photo d'identité - format 4, 5 x 3, 5cm (pas de photocopie ni de photo scannée) 3- Un passeport dont la validité doit être supérieure de 6 mois après la date d'expiration du visa demandé ainsi qu'une page entièrement libre de toute inscription pour le visa du Kirghizistan 4- Visas touristiques: une lettre d'invitation contenant le numéro d'enregistrement de celle-ci auprès du Département du service consulaire du Ministère des Affaires Etrangères du Kirghizistan (action-visas propose de l’obtenir pour 100 € de plus et 5 jours d’obtention de plus)
J'espère que toutes ces informations te seront utiles. Ecris-moi plus tard comment tu auras réussi à avoir ton visa. Ça m'intéresse de savoir si mon travail aura été utile et je pense aussi que ça peut servir plus tard à d'autres voyageurs dans ton cas. Bon voyage Pasqualina.
Si je pense que c'est le Kazakhstan qui donne le visa, c'est parce qu'en France et en Espagne (où j'habite), c'est le Kazakhstan qui représente le Kirghizistan et fait les visas. La seule différence, c'est que les ambassades et consulats du Kirghizistan (à Bruxelles ou Vienne) ne demandent pas de lettre d'invitation, mais quand on passe par un office du Kazakhstan, oui, ils demandent une lettre d'invitation ou plutôt le numéro d'enregistrement de cette lettre au ministère des Affaires Etrangères du Kirghizistan, ce qui veut dire plus de temps et plus d'argent. Il est possible que le Central Asia Hotel d'Ürümqi aient un contact au Kirghizistan qui s'occupe de ça, mais tu payeras bien sûr pour le service et cela prendra un peu plus de temps. En plus le bureau kazakh ne parle peut-être que chinois, kazakh et russe, donc si à l'hôtel ils parlent un peu d'anglais, ça peut aider. A ta place j'essayerais de connaître leurs coordonnées et de les contacter avant pour savoir combien de temps et d'argent ils veulent. J'ai essayé de chercher leur adresse sur le net et tout ce que j'ai trouvé c'est un lien qui ne marche plus sur un blog de voyageur qui écrivait que l'hotel était près du consulat kazakh, ce qui confirme ce que j'avais deviné auparavant. J'ai trouvé aussi une agence de voyage à Urumqi qui travaille avec cet hotel : www.silkroute.cn. Si tu contactes directement une agence kirghize (nombreuses adresses sur VF), ils demanderont aussi de l'argent je suppose, ou d'acheter chez eux des réservations d'hôtels, de transport ou d'excursions. A voir ...
Bon, pour terminer, voici les infos de action-visas.com qui est un bureau de Paris qui s'occupe de tous visas contre rémunération, bien sûr : Période de validité du visa obtenu et durée du séjour possible : L'arrivée et la sortie doivent s'effectuer dans l'intervalle des dates d'entrée et de sortie demandées et mentionnées sur le visa. Délai normal d’obtention : 3 à 5 jours ouvrés Prix pour un visa d’un mois simple entrée : 35 € (+ leurs frais de 40 € mais cela ne te concerne pas)
Documents nécessaires : 1- Un Formulaire officiel de l'ambassade du Kazakhstan (représente le Kirghizistan en France) 2- Une photo d'identité - format 4, 5 x 3, 5cm (pas de photocopie ni de photo scannée) 3- Un passeport dont la validité doit être supérieure de 6 mois après la date d'expiration du visa demandé ainsi qu'une page entièrement libre de toute inscription pour le visa du Kirghizistan 4- Visas touristiques: une lettre d'invitation contenant le numéro d'enregistrement de celle-ci auprès du Département du service consulaire du Ministère des Affaires Etrangères du Kirghizistan (action-visas propose de l’obtenir pour 100 € de plus et 5 jours d’obtention de plus)
J'espère que toutes ces informations te seront utiles. Ecris-moi plus tard comment tu auras réussi à avoir ton visa. Ça m'intéresse de savoir si mon travail aura été utile et je pense aussi que ça peut servir plus tard à d'autres voyageurs dans ton cas. Bon voyage Pasqualina.
Alors la je n'ai qu'un mot pour toi ou plutot 3: Un grand merci.
Je m'occupe de ca le mois prochain et tache de te tenir au courant.
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Coucou ! C'est encore moi ! Regardes le post que j'ai trouvé en fouinant sur VF : c'est un post remontant au 17 juillet 2007 de Allonzyvoir, dans une discussion sur le Kirghizistan n'ayant rien à voir avec les formalités administratives. Tu peux lui envoyer un message personnel pour confirmer si tu veux. Voici son post :
" Délivrance du visa kirghize à Urumqi : A Urumqi, le consulat kirghise est situe 38 North Hetan Road, au croisement avec Xihong Lu, dans l'enceinte du Central Asia Hotel (jaune fonce, 4 niveaux). L'entree du consulat est une petite porte discrete a gauche de l'entree de l'hotel, il y a un signe en anglais.
Il est ouvert en semaine et les demandes de visa se font de 11h a 14h (heure de Beijing). Le retrait se fait a 13h30.
Le visa de tourisme coute 476 RMB delivre en 5 jours travailles (en realite il est actuellement delivre en 4 jours, ex : depot le lundi, retrait le jeudi). Il existe un service express en 2 jours (le jour meme actuellement) pour plus de 900 RMB.
Le formulaire est traduit en anglais et le personnel parle anglais. Il faut indiquer lors de la demande la date d'entree prevue et la duree du sejour (max 30 jours). La duree du sejour court a compter de la date indiquee et fixe du meme coup les dates de validite du visa : on peut entrer dans le pays apres la date prevue, mais c'est autant de temps perdu sur la duree du sejour autorisee. Il faut joindre une photo et une petite lettre expliquant les raisons du sejour, la duree, ce qu'on prevoit de faire. En revanche, les francais sont dispenses de lettre d'invitation, donc le consulat n'en reclame pas. "
" Délivrance du visa kirghize à Urumqi : A Urumqi, le consulat kirghise est situe 38 North Hetan Road, au croisement avec Xihong Lu, dans l'enceinte du Central Asia Hotel (jaune fonce, 4 niveaux). L'entree du consulat est une petite porte discrete a gauche de l'entree de l'hotel, il y a un signe en anglais.
Il est ouvert en semaine et les demandes de visa se font de 11h a 14h (heure de Beijing). Le retrait se fait a 13h30.
Le visa de tourisme coute 476 RMB delivre en 5 jours travailles (en realite il est actuellement delivre en 4 jours, ex : depot le lundi, retrait le jeudi). Il existe un service express en 2 jours (le jour meme actuellement) pour plus de 900 RMB.
Le formulaire est traduit en anglais et le personnel parle anglais. Il faut indiquer lors de la demande la date d'entree prevue et la duree du sejour (max 30 jours). La duree du sejour court a compter de la date indiquee et fixe du meme coup les dates de validite du visa : on peut entrer dans le pays apres la date prevue, mais c'est autant de temps perdu sur la duree du sejour autorisee. Il faut joindre une photo et une petite lettre expliquant les raisons du sejour, la duree, ce qu'on prevoit de faire. En revanche, les francais sont dispenses de lettre d'invitation, donc le consulat n'en reclame pas. "
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Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.





